I apologize if this has been posted/asked before, but assuming DJO comes to MU in the fall, who doesn't get a scholarship? Or did we have one to give?
Please read the rest of the board before posting this stuff...
This has been discussed to exhaustion since we were in the Riley race...
No, we do not have an extra one
Yes, the NCAA allows teams to recruit one extra until they can decide how they will make room
Yes, we all assume someone is transferring
Yes, rumors are that Hazel may transfer or McMorrow's injury may be too much for him to play
Yes, there is a search function bar at the top of the page
We are currently one over the 13 limit. Someone (current or incoming) will not be on the team.
Warrior, TY for the warm welcome. I'll use the search function going forward.
Quote from: jimmyrizzle on April 04, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
Warrior, TY for the warm welcome. I'll use the search function going forward.
Don't worry about it, people who spend half their day on the board expect others to do the same. So yeah, how dare you.
someone could redshirt next year also!
Quote from: denverMU on April 04, 2009, 04:39:38 PM
someone could redshirt next year also!
Is that true? Are you only allowed one redshirt then? So could we have had someone in uniform in McMorrow's place? That is not my understanding but I don't claim expertise.
Quote from: denverMU on April 04, 2009, 04:39:38 PM
someone could redshirt next year also!
A redshirt still counts against the scholarship limit.
Quote from: radome on April 04, 2009, 04:49:25 PM
Is that true? Are you only allowed one redshirt then? So could we have had someone in uniform in McMorrow's place? That is not my understanding but I don't claim expertise.
I think it is possible McMorrow could get a medical redshirt. If he does, he still counts as using a scholarship.
Quote from: denverMU on April 04, 2009, 04:39:38 PM
someone could redshirt next year also!
No offense how do you not know that a redshirt also counts as a scholarship???
Quote from: schubert33 on April 04, 2009, 08:14:06 PM
No offense how do you not know that a redshirt also counts as a scholarship???
A transfer is about the same as a redshirt. They both count as used scholarships.
Quote from: milkbone on April 05, 2009, 11:21:50 AM
A transfer is about the same as a redshirt. They both count as used scholarships.
Obviously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"No offense how do you not know that a redshirt also counts as a scholarship???"
Because he knows the rules?
It amazes me as often as it is discussed on Scoop that people still don't understand a redshirt still takes up a scholarship.
If someone is on the team, whether they play or not is irrelevant to the 12 scholarships rule. The only exception is if the player is a walk-on like Frozena.
Whatever the reason: Transfer, Medical Red Shirt, or Development Red Shirt; they are at Marquette on scholarship so they count against the NCAA limit.
Quote from: Travis Diener's Punching Bag on April 06, 2009, 08:37:59 AM
If someone is on the team, whether they play or not is irrelevant to the 12 scholarships rule. The only exception is if the player is a walk-on like Frozena.
Whatever the reason: Transfer, Medical Red Shirt, or Development Red Shirt; they are at Marquette on scholarship so they count against the NCAA limit.
Completely correct. Except for the part about 12 scholarships. The limit is 13 ;)
So to clarify, were over the limit by one for 09-10, but still have an open schollie for 10-11 and 3 schollies for 11-12. Correct?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 07, 2009, 04:30:24 PM
So to clarify, were over the limit by one for 09-10, but still have an open schollie for 10-11 and 3 schollies for 11-12. Correct?
Correct, we are currently one over for the 2009-10 season.
There are 3 seniors to be in Acker, Cubillan and Hayward. Assuming none of the seniors leave before the coming season, we will have those three openings for the 2010-11 season. Aaron Bowen and Monterale Clark have verbaled for two of those spots.
We will have 4 juniors on this years team; Butler, Fulce, Buycks and Hazel. Assuming one of those isn't the player to leave for this season, we have 4 openings for the 2011-12 team.
Not completely correct, there have been players, on D1 teams, who's parents are well off and they do not need scholarships. They pay their own way and they do not count against the 13 scholarship limit.
Just to reiterate for the nineteen-billionth time. We do try to keep all the recruits and available scholarships up to date in our Scholarship table.
Bookmark it. Memorize it. Get a tattoo of the URL on your arm. We never change the link.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Quote from: denverMU on April 07, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
Not completely correct, there have been players, on D1 teams, who's parents are well off and they do not need scholarships. They pay their own way and they do not count against the 13 scholarship limit.
That's very rare!!!! Jordan's kid comes to mind, but he was only offered by mid-major D1's, and he wanted to play in the Big Ten (he ended up earning a scholarship this past year). I can't think of anybody else... A major D1 school is not going to take advantage of a recruits financial situation, and see if the parents will just pay. I would challenge you to name 5 players in the last 20 years where this has happened..
I have no idea how many players have done this. I know I have heard of teams with players like this.. My point is, as was stated, "If someone is on the team, whether they play or not is irrelevant to the 12 scholarships rule. The only exception is if the player is a walk-on like Frozena.
Whatever the reason: Transfer, Medical Red Shirt, or Development Red Shirt; they are at Marquette on scholarship so they count against the NCAA limit." is not completely accurate. No big deal not everything has to be an argument.
I believe they'd actually be considered a walk-on in that case. There was some discussion around the Jordan incident about how giving him the scholarship opened up some benefits that are only available to scholarship players (access to the 'training table' for meals was the only one I heard mentioned explicitly).
Quote from: denverMU on April 07, 2009, 08:54:07 PM
I have no idea how many players have done this. I know I have heard of teams with players like this.. My point is, as was stated, "If someone is on the team, whether they play or not is irrelevant to the 12 scholarships rule. The only exception is if the player is a walk-on like Frozena.
Whatever the reason: Transfer, Medical Red Shirt, or Development Red Shirt; they are at Marquette on scholarship so they count against the NCAA limit." is not completely accurate. No big deal not everything has to be an argument.
A player who pays his own tuition is a walk-on in terms of scholarship discussion regardless of how he came to be on campus, and therefore like Frozena so the original comment, save for 13 scholarships vs. 12, remains correct.