http://gary-parrish.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/14230077
Article mentions Donovan, Izzo and Calipari.
Should be interesting how this shakes out and what it means to MU if anything (transfers, decommits, etc).
I think it's Donovan's to lose (again).
Seeing what's been going on at Florida since his NBA flirtations (2 straight NITs), I think it's prime time to get out. He's still got plenty of recruiting cache as a 2-time National Champion coach, but I think he's somewhat wounded by staying at Florida.
Bet they feel really stupid for forcing Tubby out at this point...
Of those 3, my moneys on Calipari
Is Donovan the sure thing hire he seemed to be after 2006? Anthony Grant may be the real McCoy.
Quote from: spartan3186 on March 26, 2009, 05:28:30 PM
Bet they feel really stupid for forcing Tubby out at this point...
Of those 3, my moneys on Calipari
Why? Tubby had that program on the downslope, talent and results wise...
I think Calipari likes to be at a school like Memphis. He can whoop up on weaker schools, get a good seed, and bring in solid recruits. No pressure whatsoever.
Gillespie to assistant coach at MU!
This whole coaching wheel will be interesting in the next week or so.
Heres some thoughts on a few:
Kentucky
Calapari - If he gets John Wall, it would be the best recruiting class ever. Nah
Izzo - Can't see him in blue
Donovan - I would yes at this point.
Travis Ford - ex blueshirt, would fit in with alumni, but they want the big
name.
Alabama
Anthony Grant offered, but not taken yet. I assume since Grant is an ex-coach under Donovan at Florida, he is waiting to see if Donovan leaves. If not, Grant goes to Bama.
Georgia
No clue, maybe Mike Anderson from Mizzo
Arizona
I say Jaime Dixon who was an assistant under Ben Howland at No. Arizona and has west coast ties. If Blair goes pro, Pitt loses everybody.
PITT
If Dixon goes, its Sean Miller time.
Virginia
Mike Brey from ND. ND loses everyone except Harangody, who is now "testing" draft. No big recruits coming in. Welcome back to ACC.
Notre Dame
Too far out to even conceive. Bill Laimbeer. Who cares.
Coach Cal and Rick Pitino the same state? Slick alert!!
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 26, 2009, 05:38:37 PM
Why? Tubby had that program on the downslope, talent and results wise...
Did Smith ever miss the NCAA Tournament?
I was watching the ESPN preview of tonight's games and they mentioned a tv "tease" about Pitino possibly going to Arizona??? I didn't see any follow up because I switched to CBS. Anybody else see this???
How about DePaul getting rid of The Wainwright??
He's HUGE: http://www.jerrywainwright.com/
They, the fans, would like: http://firejerrywainwright.com/successors.html
This would all mean that DePaul decides to get serious again about their program and firing JW after a big contract extension.
Buzz Williams, because it's Kentucky! It's Kentucky!
Tough to see Mike Anderson leaving the good life at Mizzou for a program whose biggest highlight over the past decade is 4 wins in 3 days to get a 14 seed in the NCAA's. Not to say he wouldn't consider moving back to the south, but he worked so hard to build mizzou, tough to see him taking such a step back.
Izzo to UK, Crean to MSU, Buzz to Its IUIU
From a UGA insider... take it for what it's worth...
Donavon to UK
Anthony Grant to UF
Mike Anderson to UGA
We just have to check the flight logs and we will be able to know who the next coach will be. ;D
Quote from: nyg on March 26, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
This whole coaching wheel will be interesting in the next week or so.
Heres some thoughts on a few:
Kentucky
Calapari - If he gets John Wall, it would be the best recruiting class ever. Nah
Izzo - Can't see him in blue
Donovan - I would yes at this point.
Travis Ford - ex blueshirt, would fit in with alumni, but they want the big
name.
Alabama
Anthony Grant offered, but not taken yet. I assume since Grant is an ex-coach under Donovan at Florida, he is waiting to see if Donovan leaves. If not, Grant goes to Bama.
Georgia
No clue, maybe Mike Anderson from Mizzo
Arizona
I say Jaime Dixon who was an assistant under Ben Howland at No. Arizona and has west coast ties. If Blair goes pro, Pitt loses everybody.
PITT
If Dixon goes, its Sean Miller time.
Virginia
Mike Brey from ND. ND loses everyone except Harangody, who is now "testing" draft. No big recruits coming in. Welcome back to ACC.
Notre Dame
Too far out to even conceive. Bill Laimbeer. Who cares.
Would Grant be interesting in UVA???...can't see Brey landing there.
Brey has been linked repeatedly to the UVA job. He'd be going back home, very natural fit at a school like Virginia.
A couple of other names from Lexington: Thad Motta and Jay Wright.
Hard to think about Wright not at Villanova but if I was UK and could not get Donovan, I would give him a hard look.
Quote from: LastWarrior on March 26, 2009, 07:42:17 PM
From a UGA insider... take it for what it's worth...
Donavon to UK
Anthony Grant to UF
Mike Anderson to UGA
Am I the only one who doesn't see UGA as a step up from Mizzou? When was the last time UGA was any good... Plus basketball will always play second fiddle in the SEC
Comments at the bottom of this link included this quote: "For anyone who says Kentucky is the premier job....HA. I can think of at 10 better jobs than Kentucky right now (Kansas, Duke, UNC, UCLA, Pitt, Marquette, Michigan State, Syracuse, Louisville, Villanova)"
An encouraging indicator, and I believe we can all agree that this wouldn't have been said 5 years ago.
I don't think there's a chance Donovan goes to UK. He's got a sweet $3+ million/year deal going at Florida for another 5 years. Seems stupid to walk away fro that.
However, there is a weird clause in his contract, in which case he'd need to accept the UK job in the next 5 days...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/sec/2008-10-03-florida-donovan-extension_N.htm
QuoteThe school and Donovan will also have a window from March 1 to April 1 each year in which either party can terminate the contract without cause and not be subject to the buyouts.
When is UK going to realize they will NEVER be as dominant as they once were? I would get a seasoned coahc and keep him there for a minimum of 7+ years to prevent alienating your recruiting base.....
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on March 26, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
I think Calipari likes to be at a school like Memphis. He can whoop up on weaker schools, get a good seed, and bring in solid recruits. No pressure whatsoever.
At Kentucky he could continue to land solid recruits and come on, the SEC? That conference isn't all that difficult either. Granted, it's tougher than CUSA but after Kentucky, TENN, UF, and occassionally Vandy who else do you have to contend with?
Forde says Travis Ford to UK.
Quote from: spartan3186 on March 26, 2009, 11:46:49 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't see UGA as a step up from Mizzou? When was the last time UGA was any good... Plus basketball will always play second fiddle in the SEC
Anderson is from the south. He really hasn't been appreciated at Mizzou until this year. Columbia isn't exactly a great place to live.
And most of all $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Anderson to Bama......UGA has never anted up for hoops, their facilities are dated, etal.
Billy D to UK, Grant to UF, Anderson to Bama. UGA gets the dregs
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 27, 2009, 08:19:40 AM
UGA gets the dregs
Why would Crean leave IU to go to UGA?
Which happens first, Gillespie gets a new job, or UK finds his replacement?
i can see UK making a pass at Donovan but if he says no or waffles travis Ford really seems to be the no brainer, I mean he is not only a Uk greta but has done one hell of a job all the way thru his different stops.
But on the other hand UK is really dumb to conduct their Ath. Dept like Al Davis. Firing 2 coaches in two years is going to kill them, recruit after recruit will be very wary. Stability is key as much as it detested Crean the only fiber in my body that wanted him to stay was that it menat continuity
It would be interesting to see what would happen if Calipari went to UK. Would Conference USA just fold? Given the conference they're in, how does Calipari consistently bring in these recruits? Look at this year - they won 27 games in a row and nobody cared. After losing last night, did their season matter? Why would kids want to go there instead of a school in a legitimate conference where winning the regular season or conference tournament actually meant something?
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 27, 2009, 09:12:29 AM
It would be interesting to see what would happen if Calipari went to UK. Would Conference USA just fold? Given the conference they're in, how does Calipari consistently bring in these recruits? Look at this year - they won 27 games in a row and nobody cared. After losing last night, did their season matter? Why would kids want to go there instead of a school in a legitimate conference where winning the regular season or conference tournament actually meant something?
cough....William Wesley....cough.
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 27, 2009, 09:12:29 AM
It would be interesting to see what would happen if Calipari went to UK. Would Conference USA just fold? Given the conference they're in, how does Calipari consistently bring in these recruits? Look at this year - they won 27 games in a row and nobody cared. After losing last night, did their season matter? Why would kids want to go there instead of a school in a legitimate conference where winning the regular season or conference tournament actually meant something?
Conference USA is a bunch of schools that outside of Memphis, care way more about football than they do basketball.
I think its 1. Cal 2. Ford
Ford doesn't bring the big name recognition or experience Kentucky is looking for.
Donovan's waffling probably makes him a lifer at Florida. I wouldn't go after him and definitely wouldn't trust his word if he did say yes. I would definitely pass on him.
I don't see Izzo leaving Michigan State for anything but the NBA.
Cal plays in a crappy conference. It must really suck to go through a season where you destroy your competition every night no matter what he says. I would think he would want some sort of challenge. With his name, his ability to recruit and that Kentucky is a premier name, Cal would be very successful there and basically finish a successful coaching career at Kentucky.
If Cal is not interested, only then will Ford get the job as the other really good coaches have eyes on other prizes.
Quote from: nyg on March 26, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
This whole coaching wheel will be interesting in the next week or so.
Heres some thoughts on a few:
Kentucky
Calapari - If he gets John Wall, it would be the best recruiting class ever. Nah
Izzo - Can't see him in blue
Donovan - I would yes at this point.
Travis Ford - ex blueshirt, would fit in with alumni, but they want the big
name.
Alabama
Anthony Grant offered, but not taken yet. I assume since Grant is an ex-coach under Donovan at Florida, he is waiting to see if Donovan leaves. If not, Grant goes to Bama.
Georgia
No clue, maybe Mike Anderson from Mizzo
Arizona
I say Jaime Dixon who was an assistant under Ben Howland at No. Arizona and has west coast ties. If Blair goes pro, Pitt loses everybody.
PITT
If Dixon goes, its Sean Miller time.
Virginia
Mike Brey from ND. ND loses everyone except Harangody, who is now "testing" draft. No big recruits coming in. Welcome back to ACC.
Notre Dame
Too far out to even conceive. Bill Laimbeer. Who cares.
Why hasn't Jay Wright been mentioned as a possible candidate for a top-tier program more? The guy can really coach, is a great recruiter and seems to be a great guy.
Yet, I rarely ever hear his name mentioned when a top position opens up.
Wright turned down Kentucky two years ago.
The only way I see Dixon or Wright ever leaving is with more zero's on a check that I can count. They've got great situations right where they are. The only thing that could be better is the weather for either of them.
IMO-- Dixon to AZ and Travis Ford to UK.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on March 27, 2009, 11:35:59 AM
Wright turned down Kentucky two years ago.
Because he has more loyalty to his program than Crean had here. He could easily say "It's Kentucky" but he'd rather build his program to one day match the prestige of the elite. I guess we'll see if his loyalty holds up.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 27, 2009, 12:31:40 AM
I don't think there's a chance Donovan goes to UK. He's got a sweet $3+ million/year deal going at Florida for another 5 years. Seems stupid to walk away fro that.
However, there is a weird clause in his contract, in which case he'd need to accept the UK job in the next 5 days...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/sec/2008-10-03-florida-donovan-extension_N.htm
I'm with Rocky on Donovan. He's got a solid recruiting class ('09-10) coming in, after losing so many to the NBA after the back-to-back performance. He's paid very well in an area that has an extremely low cost of living, and the football program bears all the pressure to win. It's a sweet deal compared to KY. He also never has to pay a kid in the neighborhood to shovel his driveway.
Actually John Wooden is comming out of retirement to take the job. Hear its a 10 year contract.
Quote from: EagleWarrior#12 on March 27, 2009, 11:51:32 AM
Because he has more loyalty to his program than Crean had here. He could easily say "It's Kentucky" but he'd rather build his program to one day match the prestige of the elite. I guess we'll see if his loyalty holds up.
With the class Jay Wright has coming in -- and the enormous talent returning next year at Nova -- he is staying put.
Billy Donovan to UK, Grant to UF, Anderson to Bama.
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 27, 2009, 02:23:14 PM
With the class Jay Wright has coming in -- and the enormous talent returning next year at Nova -- he is staying put.
Billy Donovan to UK, Grant to UF, Anderson to Bama.
Jay's got a very nice contract, great recruits coming in, lives in a major city, and has a VERY long leash seen as he has returned Nova to basketball glory.
If he is smart, he'll stay.
I understand the draw of the large programs (a lot of it is ego), but if Jay keeps this up, he'll be the toast of the Big East and Philly (as if he's not already).
Quote from: 1990Warrior on March 26, 2009, 08:48:44 PM
A couple of other names from Lexington: Thad Motta and Jay Wright.
Hard to think about Wright not at Villanova but if I was UK and could not get Donovan, I would give him a hard look.
Wright turned down UK two years ago; why would this time be any different?
Quote from: mufanatic on March 27, 2009, 10:26:51 AM
I don't see Izzo leaving Michigan State for anything but the NBA.
I see this statement everywhere, but if it is true why is he still at MSU? At least 5 NBA jobs seem to open every season and if he is interested I would think he is a high end candidate. Yet he remains at the college level.
Reminds me of all the Kirk Ferentz to the NFL speculation that has gone on for about 5 years.
Wasn't Matta rumoured when BG got the gig
Darrin Horn to Kentucky.
Is it correct to assume former Badger guard, Tracy Webster, is out as well?
Quote from: MU_B2002 on March 27, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
I see this statement everywhere, but if it is true why is he still at MSU? At least 5 NBA jobs seem to open every season and if he is interested I would think he is a high end candidate. Yet he remains at the college level.
Reminds me of all the Kirk Ferentz to the NFL speculation that has gone on for about 5 years.
My comment on Izzo is that I don't see him going anywhere else when it comes to collegiate programs. The ONLY change I see him making as far as going to a more challenging job is if he decides to take a stab at the NBA. Just because he has said no once, twice, five times or ten times, doesn't mean that at some point in time he changes his mind and does it. If he is changing jobs it will be to the NBA but I think he is a lifer on Michigan State much like I think Donovan is a lifer at Florida.
Quote from: mufanatic on March 27, 2009, 04:39:39 PM
My comment on Izzo is that I don't see him going anywhere else when it comes to collegiate programs. The ONLY change I see him making as far as going to a more challenging job is if he decides to take a stab at the NBA. Just because he has said no once, twice, five times or ten times, doesn't mean that at some point in time he changes his mind and does it. If he is changing jobs it will be to the NBA but I think he is a lifer on Michigan State much like I think Donovan is a lifer at Florida.
I agree. Just funny to hear the same name every year for all these vacancies on both levels.
I do not see Wright leaving Villanova for Ky. It would be a step down from a conference standpoint--the BEAST is #!. he is building a powerhouse at Villanova.
I do not know how well he is paid. I could see him nibbling with Ky., just to get more coin out of Nova.
Calipari is already making huge bucks, as is Donovan. I think Calipari has the program really rolling at Memphis, and will stay, unless Ky. throws in Fort Knox. Then he may bite.
I would not be surprised that Ky. cannot get one of the"names", so will settle for Ford or Pelphrey--both Ky. alumni.
Just out of curiousity---would they make a play for Bob Knight?
No way Anderson leaves what he has built just in three years at Mizzou to go Georgia. Alabama would be considered because it is home but in the end he will stay at Mizzou as they are going to give a bump in salary to at least $1.3M plus incentives and five years added to his current contract that has two years left.
Quote from: punchystones on March 27, 2009, 04:57:10 PM
No way Anderson leaves what he has built just in three years at Mizzou to go Georgia. Alabama would be considered because it is home but in the end he will stay at Mizzou as they are going to give a bump in salary to at least $1.3M plus incentives and five years added to his current contract that has two years left.
1)Has not built a whole lot at Mizzou especially once they get blown out by UCONN
2) No one wants to stay in Mizzou country if they don't have to and if Georgia has to they are offering 2 mil.
Yeah Stone Cold do not know what I was thinking....31-6, Big 12 Conference Tournament Championship and a run to the Elite 8 in just his third year taking over a program that was on probation is building a lot. My bad, clearly you just have diarrhea of the mouth and have no clue or knowledge of anything you talk about.
Quote from: punchystones on March 27, 2009, 08:57:01 PM
Yeah Stone Cold do not know what I was thinking....31-6, Big 12 Conference Tournament Championship and a run to the Elite 8 in just his third year taking over a program that was on probation is building a lot. My bad, clearly you just have diarrhea of the mouth and have no clue or knowledge of anything you talk about.
Clearly you're a Mizzou fan who needs to run along now. Great program you guys got, we're all envious.
Actually I am a Marquette fan....I just get sick of reading posts like yours that pretend to have a clue of what you are talking about when it is painfully obvious you have zero knowledge of the subject. Then, once called out you resort to name calling or hiding behind the facade that you are the best Marquette fan on the planet. Have some knowledge of the subject before you go running off your mouth.
Quote from: punchystones on March 27, 2009, 09:25:57 PM
Actually I am a Marquette fan....I just get sick of reading posts like yours that pretend to have a clue of what you are talking about when it is painfully obvious you have zero knowledge of the subject. Then, once called out you resort to name calling or hiding behind the facade that you are the best Marquette fan on the planet. Have some knowledge of the subject before you go running off your mouth.
I know all about your beloved Missouri and I happen to not hold them in as high esteem as you, sorry you can't handle it....as for a Marquette fan well puncystones you've got 4 posts now and not one of em about marquette, I guess we'll see.
Bob Knight could clearly handle the pressure of the job there, but UK also needs a guy who can recruit right now (which is a big part of the reason the fan base became dissatisfied with Smith). Knight is more interested in fishing and hunting than recruiting. Now if you could get a guy that would be willilng to do all of that while being compensated well with little to no recognition, and let Knight do all the game coaching from October to March ...
I found this interesting:
The quote below is from Sporting News' Mike DeCourcy dated 3-27-09:
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=532151
"Last time, AD Mitch Barnhart ignored the ideal choice, Tom Crean, and allowed his search firm to guide him toward Billy Gillispie. Not even two years later, Barnhart was forcing out Gillispie claiming, "The chemistry is just not right."
A capable administrator would have anticipated that possibility and pursued Crean, who is showing at Indiana he has all the qualities required to be a smash at UK: coaching aptitude, recruiting ability, a great politician's flair for distributing his message."
Crean wouldn't fly at UK IMHO. They'd see right through his "fakeness" for lack of a better term just like a decent percentage of the fan base did at MU.
Quote from: Eye on March 28, 2009, 09:47:20 AM
Crean wouldn't fly at UK IMHO. They'd see right through his "fakeness" for lack of a better term just like a decent percentage of the fan base did at MU.
I don't know about that, in fact I think UK fans want the kind of "fakeness" that Crean brings. They don't care if the feelings are genuine as long as you show up to the places they think you should show up, and act the way they think you should act. Rupp and Hall and Sutton were cantankerous SOBs that hated doing the things UK fans thought they should, but they faked their way through it because they understood the fan base. To be the coach at UK, you have to be part coach part politician, which is right up Crean's alley.
In fact, I'd argue that Crean is a much better fit for UK than he is for IU.
I think Crean has proven he can build a top 25 program. What remains to be seen is if can he build an elite program. Anything less at IU (or UK for that matter) is unacceptable!
Quote from: mu77vegas on March 28, 2009, 07:41:35 AM
I found this interesting:
The quote below is from Sporting News' Mike DeCourcy dated 3-27-09:
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=532151
"Last time, AD Mitch Barnhart ignored the ideal choice, Tom Crean, and allowed his search firm to guide him toward Billy Gillispie. Not even two years later, Barnhart was forcing out Gillispie claiming, "The chemistry is just not right."
A capable administrator would have anticipated that possibility and pursued Crean, who is showing at Indiana he has all the qualities required to be a smash at UK: coaching aptitude, recruiting ability, a great politician's flair for distributing his message."
As I understand it the same search team that hired BG is responsible for hiring Sampson at IU...seems like they look for coaches with good character.
Crean and Gillespie are kinda the same guy - builders. Crean would not have fared any better in his first two years, and I suspect the same level of disconnent may be there. The area he may have been better was in lowering expectations as he has done at IU. He has done a great job of selling the message that it is gonna take a loooong time, which BG failed to do. Whether that is his fault, or teh fault of an unrealistic fan base, I don't know.