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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: sigep80 on March 25, 2009, 08:13:49 PM

Title: Ammo
Post by: sigep80 on March 25, 2009, 08:13:49 PM
Watching SDSU on the duece right now, anyone know the story of why Ammo left MU?
Title: Ammo on ESPN2 for those interested
Post by: drewm88 on March 25, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
He and San Diego State currently taking it to Patty Mills and St. Mary's in the NIT quarterfinals.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: MuMark on March 25, 2009, 08:24:56 PM
He left because he teammates basically voted him off the team.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: MUfan2 on March 25, 2009, 08:27:26 PM
He couldn't get markers at Potowotomi anymore.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: SCdem@MU on March 25, 2009, 08:54:10 PM
Quote from: MUfan2 on March 25, 2009, 08:27:26 PM
He couldn't get markers at Potowotomi anymore.

I think there was more to it than just his gambling. Diener and Todd Townsend also frequented the Potawatomi casino. Used to see them both playing craps all the time.

Would have been nice to have had another big man last year, especially one that can score.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Big East Warriors on March 25, 2009, 09:05:01 PM
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 25, 2009, 08:54:10 PM
I think there was more to it than just his gambling. Diener and Todd Townsend also frequented the Potawatomi casino. Used to see them both playing craps all the time.

Would have been nice to have had another big man last year, especially one that can score.

Another big man that can score? We still talking about Ammo? He had that one good game in Alaska..i really dont think we are missing much with him gone.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: schubert33 on March 25, 2009, 10:22:14 PM
He only averages 7 points and 5 rebounds in a Mid-Major conference,  that would be a lot lower in the Big East!!!
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 25, 2009, 10:30:11 PM
He's cloned and resurrected himself as Bobby Capobianco!
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: MU gimp ONE on March 25, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
correct me if i'm wrong, but we wouldn't have had him this year anyways.  i thought the only reason he is playing this year is because he sat out a year after transfer. 

rag on him if you want, but i've met and hung out with ryan.  i found him to be an actually decent guy.  i don't know the exact reasons for leaving, so i try not to speculate ever on it and wish him the best.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 25, 2009, 11:27:43 PM
Quote from: MU gimp ONE on March 25, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
correct me if i'm wrong, but we wouldn't have had him this year anyways.  i thought the only reason he is playing this year is because he sat out a year after transfer. 

Right.  He would have graduated last season with Ooze and Fitz.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Ari Gold on March 26, 2009, 01:32:37 AM
It's because he bet against us... vs UConn among those games

something about a select few benc players and wanting to get money in shady ways.... eh Pat Hazel?
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: 🏀 on March 26, 2009, 07:51:34 AM
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 26, 2009, 01:32:37 AM
It's because he bet against us... vs UConn among those games


Winner.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Joe Thompson on March 26, 2009, 08:45:56 AM
Quote from: Ari Gold on March 26, 2009, 01:32:37 AM
something about a select few benc players and wanting to get money in shady ways.... eh Pat Hazel?

So this is the reason Buzz hasn't even mentioned Pat Hazel's name in passing the last six weeks?
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 26, 2009, 08:55:37 AM
Not a chance.  If that were so, he would have been dumped immediately, with the "he has rendered himself ineligible for NCAA play" line.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: tower912 on March 26, 2009, 08:58:04 AM
Ammo had a personality conflict with Crean.   Free spirit vs. Hardcore.   Mortenson is the one who had his scholarship and eligibility taken away.  If Ammo had violated NCAA rules, he would not have been eligible even after the transfer. 
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: AlienWarrior on March 26, 2009, 11:29:43 AM
weather and women
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: deep vacuum on March 26, 2009, 12:11:34 PM
Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 26, 2009, 11:29:43 AM
weather and women
OK, the weather might be an issue I'll grant you but aren't the better looking Marquette women imported from Chicago?
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 26, 2009, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 26, 2009, 08:58:04 AM
Ammo had a personality conflict with Crean.   Free spirit vs. Hardcore.   Mortenson is the one who had his scholarship and eligibility taken away.  If Ammo had violated NCAA rules, he would not have been eligible even after the transfer. 

I had a personality conflict with Crean too. Smart kid, that Ammo, I always liked him.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Chili on March 26, 2009, 12:19:17 PM
Quote from: deep vacuum on March 26, 2009, 12:11:34 PM
OK, the weather might be an issue I'll grant you but aren't the better looking Marquette women imported from Chicago?

It's San Diego, San Diego...
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: mu-rara on March 26, 2009, 12:20:13 PM
Quote from: deep vacuum on March 26, 2009, 12:11:34 PM
OK, the weather might be an issue I'll grant you but aren't the better looking Marquette women imported from Chicago?

Let me guess...you're from Chitcago?

Absolute best looking woman in my class was from Mauston, WI
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: ATWizJr on March 26, 2009, 12:54:03 PM
probably a madonna girl.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 26, 2009, 01:22:03 PM
Animal Husbandry
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: Bob "Big Daddy" Wild on March 26, 2009, 02:31:14 PM
Quote from: tower912 on March 26, 2009, 08:58:04 AM
Ammo had a personality conflict with Crean.   Free spirit vs. Hardcore.   Mortenson is the one who had his scholarship and eligibility taken away.  If Ammo had violated NCAA rules, he would not have been eligible even after the transfer. 

Bingo.  Amo was a bit closer to a regular college student than your typical high D1 athlete.  Everyone who hung out with him thinks he was a regular, nice guy...you have to be pretty crazy about basketball to live the high D1 life style - that is why I respect the player's work ethic so much.

I think it was a matter of him not being as insane as Crean is about basketball, so he went to a smaller school, is still getting a degree, and did ok.  More power to him.  The gambling stuff is crap.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 26, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: Tmreddevil on March 26, 2009, 02:31:14 PM
Bingo.  Amo was a bit closer to a regular college student than your typical high D1 athlete.  Everyone who hung out with him thinks he was a regular, nice guy...you have to be pretty crazy about basketball to live the high D1 life style - that is why I respect the player's work ethic so much.

I think it was a matter of him not being as insane as Crean is about basketball, so he went to a smaller school, is still getting a degree, and did ok.  More power to him.  The gambling stuff is crap.

During his time at MU, Amo struck me as the type of guy who played basketball because he was really good at it, not because he really loved it. He just didn't seem to have the passion that many other D1 players have. I don't mean that as a knock on the guy. There are a lot of athletes who fit that description.
Title: Re: Ammo
Post by: MU gimp ONE on March 26, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 26, 2009, 02:55:32 PM
During his time at MU, Amo struck me as the type of guy who played basketball because he was really good at it, not because he really loved it. He just didn't seem to have the passion that many other D1 players have. I don't mean that as a knock on the guy. There are a lot of athletes who fit that description.


i think you hit the nail on the head.  if i was really good at something i would do it too, doesn't mean that it would be my only passion.  I know ammo was also good in football and a scratch golfer i think.  i remember watching him win a chipping contest the golf team had on the AMU lawn.  stuck like 3 balls within 2 feet from the pin from 20 yards away.  i could definitely see a riff between his lifestyle and crean's control of his players lives.  some people just aren't a fit for a coach, plain and simple.
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