I heard a rumor today that he is contemplating transferring to an east coast prep school and looking for further recruitment out east. I heard it from a high school coach not affiliated with Madison Memorial. Just a rumor, but has anybody heard anything else?
Had not heard the prep school rumor, but there have been rumors abound that he's reconsidering his UW commitment. He's a tremendously athletic guard with the chance of playing in the NBA, why would he want to ruin that by going to Madison?
Also, having just won the state championship, there really isn't much more for him to do in HS bb in WI. A move to a prep school would probably be a good decision.
Here's hoping Jeronne Maymon loves MU and talks his boy into joining him here
Quote from: MUfan2 on March 25, 2009, 06:01:59 PM
Had not heard the prep school rumor, but there have been rumors abound that he's reconsidering his UW commitment. He's a tremendously athletic guard with the chance of playing in the NBA, why would he want to ruin that by going to Madison?
Also, having just won the state championship, there really isn't much more for him to do in HS bb in WI. A move to a prep school would probably be a good decision.
Devin Harris didn't ruin anything by going to Wisconsin...
Vander Blue has the type of talent that he will become a SPECIAL player, regardless of where he goes to school.
Just because he is going to UW, doesnt mean that his bball future is ruined...kid is special.
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Quote from: universitypark on March 25, 2009, 06:25:29 PM
I spoke with Layer in Boise and he implied that mu is definetely working the jmo angle with blue.
I hope that's not true. We shouldn't be tampering with other players
It's only tampering if the kid's signed. Oral commitments are only worth the paper they're not written on.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 25, 2009, 06:27:32 PM
I hope that's not true. We shouldn't be tampering with other players
Agreed, there should be no encouragement from the coaching staff to do this. If Blue truly is wavering and Maymon talks, there's nothing the staff can really do.
It will be interesting to see what comes of it. I bet he sticks with UW.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 25, 2009, 06:27:32 PM
I hope that's not true. We shouldn't be tampering with other players
Obviously, as Boone stated, it wouldn't be tampering.
It may be shady - even though everybody, including Tom Crean, does it (see: Christian, Carlton) - but before we jump to any such conclusions we should first know whether a) MU is going after a kid who has a firm oral commitment elsewhere or b) Vander has let it be known that he's reconsidering - not an unusual move for a kid who coimmitted as a sophomore - and is welcoming all comers.
I'd guess - but only a guess - that given the life this rumor has had for months, it may be the latter.
An alum's recruiting daydream... Jeronne talks Vander Blue into coming here and Junior talks Latavious into coming here! Oh well...back to reality!
Word at the state tournament was that he is going to see how things go on the summer circuit and if things go well for him, he may reopen his recruitment heading into his senior year, which is what a lot of people have been saying for a few months now. He originally committed because recruiters were coming so heavy at him so early. He wanted to focus on school and his HS team with out the obvious and numerous distractions that some with big time recruitment. One school that I know was mentioned prior to his commitment and again now that there is talk of him backing out is Kentucky. But I didn't hear anything about him heading to a prep school out east....this may be a new idea of his now that he has a state title. If he stays at Memorial, he'd be far and away the best player in the state next year.
I'm probably in the minority on this, but I don't see him as some fantastic prospect. He isn't very big (6'2", 180), isn't a point guard, and is a decent, but not great shooter. He is about McNeal's height, without his slasher type game, and is 3" shorter than Wes. He is not ranked by Scouts or Rivals.
Sometimes guards from Wisconsin can look better than they really are because...well...they're in Wisconsin. Let's not get all excited by what he did last week. See what he does over the summer a la Jeronne last summer.
the rumor I heard from an UNreliable source is that the talk at the state tourney is that Blue wants to come play uptempo at MU. It would be sweet, but I'm not prepared to buy in.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on March 25, 2009, 07:29:38 PM
He is not ranked by Scouts or Rivals.
He is ranked 39th in rivals top 150.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=76953&Sport=2 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=76953&Sport=2)
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on March 25, 2009, 07:29:38 PM
I'm probably in the minority on this, but I don't see him as some fantastic prospect. He isn't very big (6'2", 180), isn't a point guard, and is a decent, but not great shooter. He is about McNeal's height, without his slasher type game, and is 3" shorter than Wes. He is not ranked by Scouts or Rivals.
Sometimes guards from Wisconsin can look better than they really are because...well...they're in Wisconsin. Let's not get all excited by what he did last week. See what he does over the summer a la Jeronne last summer.
He's good. He's going to be a stud wherever he goes, you're right. But I would think he'd want a bigger showcase.
well, if he goes to UW-Madison, he'll be okay as long as he takes a mattress to the games to rest on between plays.
The rumor I heard at the Illinois state tournament I didn't attend is that Vander plans on attending Wisconsin. However, during the waning seconds of a close MU/Bucky game his soph year at the Kohl, he will intentionally pass the ball to Jeronne for an easy dunk and Marquette victory. As the crowd goes begins to riot, Vander will tear off his home jersey to reveal his prized powder BLUE MU jersey and run up and hug his friend Jeronne and Uncle Tim Maymon at center court. In front of a now shocked crowd, Buzz will seize the moment and crush Bucky the Badger with a steel chair, give Bo Ryan a stone cold stunner, and jump on the scorer's table and flick the double bird to the open mouthed madisonites - thus ensuring the greatest heel tag team in Wisonsin history - "Buzz and Blue."
/Partially stolen from Simmons
/Apologies for wrestling references
GOMU1104 is one of the few in this thread who makes sense-----Vander Blue will excell no matter where he goes----he has Devin Harris type talent and Devin did very well at UW----was a #5 pick (wouldn't have done any better anywhere else). Harris is the only guard who Bo let drive the ball the length of the court off long rebs or TOs and he did it very well.
My bet is that Mr Blue stays put as if indeed he does have second thoughts, Bo will be able to reassure him through Harris's success at UW.
Quote from: Tmreddevil on March 25, 2009, 07:49:15 PM
The rumor I heard at the Illinois state tournament I didn't attend is that Vander plans on attending Wisconsin. However, during the waning seconds of a close MU/Bucky game his soph year at the Kohl, he will intentionally pass the ball to Jeronne for an easy dunk and Marquette victory. As the crowd goes begins to riot, Vander will tear off his home jersey to reveal his prized powder BLUE MU jersey and run up and hug his friend Jeronne and Uncle Tim Maymon at center court. In front of a now shocked crowd, Buzz will seize the moment and crush Bucky the Badger with a steel chair, give Bo Ryan a stone cold stunner, and jump on the scorer's table and flick the double bird to the open mouthed madisonites - thus ensuring the greatest heel tag team in Wisonsin history - "Buzz and Blue."
/Partially stolen from Simmons
/Apologies for wrestling references
and if you ain't down with that I got two words for ya...
that could literally be the most redic/greatest moment college basketball will ever see.
Quote from: universitypark on March 25, 2009, 06:25:29 PM
I spoke with Layer in Boise and he implied that mu is definetely working the jmo angle with blue.
I really hope one of our assistant coaches isnt dumb enough to speak on a 2010 recruit that has a verbal commitment with another university.
I understand that it is not tamperng unless the kid has signed his LOI...but recruiting strategies such a that one should stay with those on the coaching staff. He should not be discussing that out in public.
Quote from: Boone on March 25, 2009, 06:30:35 PM
It's only tampering if the kid's signed. Oral commitments are only worth the paper they're not written on.
I get it, I know what the official rule of tampering is. Nevertheless, unless Blue is initiating this, I don't think we should participate. We all get incredibly pissed off when it happens to us so it shouldn't be encouraged.
I don't know if someone with 2 posts out of the blue says he talked to an assistant coach who said this. But who knows if it's true. I'd prefer that we don't play these games.
You're right that it's not a written agreement, but I still come from a time and place where a man's word means something....still does to this day in my business.
Agree, I hope nothing is being said.....I hate negative recruiting....Sell what you got, not what someone else doesn't.....What goes around comes around in recruiting (of course, Bo and company havent exactly been saints in this regard either - see Matthews, Wes and Butch, Brian...although, as a Jesuit institution I would expect more from MU).....
That said, who ever questions Vander's ability doesnt know what he is talking about.....He is a big big time talent....Wish MU would have been on him sooner....Best HS guard from WI in a while.....Much more talented than Korie Lucious and Jerry Smith....I don't care if he will be playing for Bo Ryan, Bo Black, or Bo Derek, the kid is a player....
Actually, I'm more in agreement w/you than you think -- was just stating that there's nothing technically illegal about recruiting a committed kid. Ethically, though, it's a different story. If we are pursuing Blue, I hope it's only on the condition that the kid has let it be known that he wants to re-open his recruitment.
If you want to be successful you're going to have to get your hands dirty from time to time; especially if you're not UNC, DUKE, KU,UK
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 25, 2009, 09:35:02 PM
I get it, I know what the official rule of tampering is. Nevertheless, unless Blue is initiating this, I don't think we should participate.
That's the real question though. If he is initiating this (which of course we don't even know if there is a
this), no matter how directly or indirectly, from a purely theoretical standpoint, game on. If he is putting the word out in some form, go get him.
All I would say to this is that according to most Badgers fans if a player has second thought, Bo usually "Cools" on the player. After all Bo is above chasing players to committ to UW. So if Vander is having second thoughts I would imagine Bo would yank his offer. ;D
Quote from: GOMU1104 on March 25, 2009, 08:34:35 PM
I really hope one of our assistant coaches isnt dumb enough to speak on a 2010 recruit that has a verbal commitment with another university.
I understand that it is not tamperng unless the kid has signed his LOI...but recruiting strategies such a that one should stay with those on the coaching staff. He should not be discussing that out in public.
He said "implied," which could mean Layer said something like, "If there are guys that Maymon is friends with that he thinks can help us, we're interested in them."
Quote from: CAINMUTINY on March 26, 2009, 07:35:43 AM
If you want to be successful you're going to have to get your hands dirty from time to time; especially if you're not UNC, DUKE, KU,UK
If that is the standard Buzz chooses to live by all MU verbals would also be back on the market to be recruited. You can't play it both ways.
Quote from: dennycrane on March 26, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
If that is the standard Buzz chooses to live by all MU verbals would also be back on the market to be recruited. You can't play it both ways.
Considering Bowen lives deep in SEC country, my guess is the verbal pledge will be challenged close to home for us over the next 15 months.
Quote from: dennycrane on March 26, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
If that is the standard Buzz chooses to live by all MU verbals would also be back on the market to be recruited. You can't play it both ways.
What standard Buzz chooses to live by has no effect on whether other coaches still recruit MU verbal commits. Within days of Bowen committing to MU, his coach talked about how Auburn was still recruiting him and was going to continue recruiting him even though he'd verballed elsewhere. There's really no way to stop it.
Quote from: dennycrane on March 26, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
If that is the standard Buzz chooses to live by all MU verbals would also be back on the market to be recruited. You can't play it both ways.
Whether Buzz or you or anyone else likes it, all MU verbals already
are on the market to be recruited.
I'm not advocating that MU, or any other school, continue to recruit kids that have given a
firm verbal. I think it's wrong. But you're kidding yourself if you don't think it happens with a great deal of frequency, or that Buzz potentially recruiting blue at this point would change anything.
We should be glad, at least, we're not talking college football where kids give, and change, verbal commitments seemingly at whim.
Quote from: bma725 on March 26, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
What standard Buzz chooses to live by has no effect on whether other coaches still recruit MU verbal commits. Within days of Bowen committing to MU, his coach talked about how Auburn was still recruiting him and was going to continue recruiting him even though he'd verballed elsewhere. There's really no way to stop it.
+1
It happens every single day...standard operating procedure in major college basketball
I don't understand how a kid would want to average 14 points a game in the most overrated offensive plan in history against mediocre opposition in crappy arenas when he could average 20 in an uptempo style in the best conference in the world in NBA arenas. But that's just me. Oh, wait a minute: I forgot that Bo's team always play better as the year goes on because he's such an excellent coach.
Quote from: ecompt on March 26, 2009, 09:14:22 AM
I don't understand how a kid would want to average 14 points a game in the most overrated offensive plan in history against mediocre opposition in crappy arenas when he could average 20 in an uptempo style in the best conference in the world in NBA arenas. But that's just me. Oh, wait a minute: I forgot that Bo's team always play better as the year goes on because he's such an excellent coach.
Devin Harris is doing OK for himself.
How many times does it have to be said...the kid has so much talent, he will be special no matter where he goes.
Just because we all hate Wisconsin, hate the swing, hate Bo Ryan, hate the Big 10, etc...doesnt mean the kid cant be successful.
It would be great to have someone of his talent at MU, but to write his career off because he is going to UW...that is just plain dumb.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on March 26, 2009, 09:33:00 AM
Devin Harris is doing OK for himself.
How many times does it have to be said...the kid has so much talent, he will be special no matter where he goes.
Just because we all hate Wisconsin, hate the swing, hate Bo Ryan, hate the Big 10, etc...doesnt mean the kid cant be successful.
It would be great to have someone of his talent at MU, but to write his career off because he is going to UW...that is just plain dumb.
Almost as dumb as saying that a kid who has yet to play a game of college ball will be "special" no matter where he goes.
I don't think anybody is writing off his career. But why is it unfair or inappropriate to ask why a kid would want to play in that type of offensive system?
No one is writing off anything, and I agree Devin Harris has become a special NBA player (ask Brian Butch about his career, though). But does Blue want to spend four years standing around in 55-54 games or does he want to run the court against UConn, Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, etc.? If he chooses UW, God bless him. We'll survive.
So what you guys are saying, is that no talented players, who wish to have a future, should go to schools like Georgetown, Washington State, Wisconsin, UCLA, Arizona State because they play at a slower pace?
Who knows what 17-18 year olds are thinking, but if he's got talent and is comfortable with the situation, and sees a future for himself at that school...the system will work itself out and the kid should be successful.
Anyone who has seen him play knows he will thrive in whatever system he plays in.
I thought of Aaron Bowen when this was posted too. Until a kid signs on the dotted line and sends/faxes his LOI he's fair game. If he's gets recruited after he's signed that would be slimy recruting.
1104: That's why I said God bless him and that we would survive if he decides he wants to play for Dracula.
All this talk is speculation. Enough is enough. Move on to a new subject.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 26, 2009, 10:12:16 AM
All this talk is speculation. Enough is enough. Move on to a new subject.
So you're the forum police now?
Quote from: bma725 on March 26, 2009, 10:25:09 AM
So you're the forum police now?
"What are you...the shoe police?"
"I am"
People were saying the same thing about Trevon Hughes after his Wisconsin high school basketball career. They were saying he'll be in the NBA, he's finally an athletic guard for UW, etc. Pretty sure he won't be in the NBA any time soon. If Olando Tucker goes to a different school that fits his game more, he's in a much better situation right now. Brian Butch might have been the 1st McDonald's All-American ever to redshirt his freshman year. He was 1 of the best 26(?) high school players in the USA. He was never even close to a top 100 college player at Wisconsin.
Devin Harris is doing great for himself. Others who were expected to be after Wisconsin are not. Who knows what will happen with him?
Quote from: wadesworld on March 26, 2009, 02:49:57 PM
People were saying the same thing about Trevon Hughes after his Wisconsin high school basketball career. They were saying he'll be in the NBA, he's finally an athletic guard for UW, etc. Pretty sure he won't be in the NBA any time soon. If Olando Tucker goes to a different school that fits his game more, he's in a much better situation right now. Brian Butch might have been the 1st McDonald's All-American ever to redshirt his freshman year. He was 1 of the best 26(?) high school players in the USA. He was never even close to a top 100 college player at Wisconsin.
Do you really think that players not living up to expectations are unique to Wisconsin? Brian Butch wouldn't be in the NBA no matter where he played college ball - and his redshirt helped him because he was nowhere near strong enough to play college ball right out of high school. Trevon Hughes wouldn't be an All-American either. Being at Wisconsin isn't what prevented Alando Tucker from developing an NBA jump shot. These guys just weren't/aren't talented enough.
I believe there's a reason Bo doesn't get any athletes at UW-Madison. Who wants to play in that offense when you can play in Buzz's offense?? Who wants to play in the Big 10 when they can play in the BEAST. Some will choose Bo, and for some it's a good choice, but I don't think Buzz's ideal player is the same as Bo's. I've always thought Bo's offense makes average players good and great players good. As a result he has a good team...never a great one.
But MU really hasnt' had a great team either. I mean, yes they got to the Final Four once, but hasn't been to the Sweet 16 before or since. Bo has at least gotten the Badgers to the Sweet 16 three times.
I guess we all like to rip on the Badgers, but Bo is a good coach and Wisconsin is a solid basketball program. Vander Blue would be just fine there.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on March 26, 2009, 05:26:56 PM
Do you really think that players not living up to expectations are unique to Wisconsin? Brian Butch wouldn't be in the NBA no matter where he played college ball - and his redshirt helped him because he was nowhere near strong enough to play college ball right out of high school.
He may never have been an NBA player, but I don't see how you can give Bo and his staff a pass on Brian Butch's lack of development over five years. They took a skilled big man with decent athleticism and turned him into - or, at very best, allowed him to become - a soft, perimeter-oriented player. He never developed any moves in the post, never learned proper footwork, never learned to play with his back to the basket. His senior year was worst in memory when it came to Big 10 big men, and Butch averaged fewer points and rebounds than Lazar did this season against the Big East.
That may be fine in Bo's offense, but it essentially killed the kid's NBA hopes. It may very well be that he had no real shot at the NBA. Kind of surprising for a 6-foot-11 McDonald's AA, but possible. But the way he was used and developed at UW made it a sure thing.
Brian Butch's example is why people ask why a kid with NBA aspirations would want to play for Bo. His system is not conducive to developing NBA talent. And the fact you can point to
one player in eight seasons as having made it doesn't change that.
Butch was overrated coming out of HS. He was a weak, perimeter oriented player going into college. He was redshirted because he had to be. He was never that quick or that strong. Bo frankly used him as he should have.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 26, 2009, 07:44:14 PM
He may never have been an NBA player, but I don't see how you can give Bo and his staff a pass on Brian Butch's lack of development over five years. They took a skilled big man with decent athleticism and turned him into - or, at very best, allowed him to become - a soft, perimeter-oriented player. He never developed any moves in the post, never learned proper footwork, never learned to play with his back to the basket. His senior year was worst in memory when it came to Big 10 big men, and Butch averaged fewer points and rebounds than Lazar did this season against the Big East.
I don't think that's necessarily the case. I don't know if you saw Butch play at Appleton, but what made him stand out was that he had perimeter game. A couple different scouting services named him the best perimeter shooting big man in the class of 2003, and there were thoughts the he would be best served staying light weight and becoming a Novak type player. People continually raved about his sweet stroke, his ability to run the court like a small forward, and how he was the perfect European type big man who could handle the ball and stroke it from three. Playing in the swing would not have been a problem at all if he hadn't bulked up and slowed down. If he'd stayed thin and kept working on the stroke he had in high school, he would have had a much better chance of making the NBA than by bulking up and becoming a true center.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on March 26, 2009, 05:26:56 PM
Do you really think that players not living up to expectations are unique to Wisconsin? Brian Butch wouldn't be in the NBA no matter where he played college ball - and his redshirt helped him because he was nowhere near strong enough to play college ball right out of high school. Trevon Hughes wouldn't be an All-American either. Being at Wisconsin isn't what prevented Alando Tucker from developing an NBA jump shot. These guys just weren't/aren't talented enough.
I disagree with that. He goes to Arizona he would of played in NBA. Olson was good at developing players for NBA. I do not think going to MU would have helped him as Crean did not have a good record with bigmen.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 26, 2009, 02:49:57 PM
People were saying the same thing about Trevon Hughes after his Wisconsin high school basketball career. They were saying he'll be in the NBA, he's finally an athletic guard for UW, etc. Pretty sure he won't be in the NBA any time soon. If Olando Tucker goes to a different school that fits his game more, he's in a much better situation right now. Brian Butch might have been the 1st McDonald's All-American ever to redshirt his freshman year. He was 1 of the best 26(?) high school players in the USA. He was never even close to a top 100 college player at Wisconsin.
Devin Harris is doing great for himself. Others who were expected to be after Wisconsin are not. Who knows what will happen with him?
I am not getting into the verbal committment/tampering thing again but I will say this again.....Vander Blue is very very good....He is much better than Travon Hughes at this stage....Nobody outside of Lebron James or a Kevin Durant is a can't miss but Vander is as special a high school guard that WI has seen in a long time....The only other WI high school guard I can remember with as much natural talent was Calvin Rayford from Milw. Washington that ended up at Kansas.....
Quote from: TrevorCandelino on March 26, 2009, 10:51:14 PM
I am not getting into the verbal committment/tampering thing again but I will say this again.....Vander Blue is very very good....He is much better than Travon Hughes at this stage....Nobody outside of Lebron James or a Kevin Durant is a can't miss but Vander is as special a high school guard that WI has seen in a long time....The only other WI high school guard I can remember with as much natural talent was Calvin Rayford from Milw. Washington that ended up at Kansas.....
I am not sure I agree with you, but even so, I think Calvin Rayford is a great example of how guards from Wisconsin can be overated. Calvin Rayford was highly regarded, but really never did much at Kansas. He ended up as a back-up to Jacque Vaughn as a senior. I would think that Blue could be better than that.
Quote from: bma725 on March 26, 2009, 08:36:24 PM
I don't think that's necessarily the case. I don't know if you saw Butch play at Appleton, but what made him stand out was that he had perimeter game. A couple different scouting services named him the best perimeter shooting big man in the class of 2003, and there were thoughts the he would be best served staying light weight and becoming a Novak type player. People continually raved about his sweet stroke, his ability to run the court like a small forward, and how he was the perfect European type big man who could handle the ball and stroke it from three. Playing in the swing would not have been a problem at all if he hadn't bulked up and slowed down. If he'd stayed thin and kept working on the stroke he had in high school, he would have had a much better chance of making the NBA than by bulking up and becoming a true center.
If that's true about Butch, then you can also blame Bo for mis-developing him.
Bo's a good coach and thought he did what was best. I am sure that both Butch and his parents knew and approved the course he took before he even got to UW. Part of Butch's problem as a perimeter player is that he wasn't nearly as quick as Novak.
Quote from: bilsu on March 26, 2009, 10:24:44 PM
I disagree with that. He goes to Arizona he would of played in NBA. Olson was good at developing players for NBA. I do not think going to MU would have helped him as Crean did not have a good record with bigmen.
:D
Lute can make players grow taller, run faster and jump higher. Lute also has the cure asthma. Those are the things that kept Butch out of the NBA. It was not a lack of skill or understanding of the game.
Quote from: The Wizard of West Salem on March 26, 2009, 06:00:48 PM
But MU really hasnt' had a great team either. I mean, yes they got to the Final Four once, but hasn't been to the Sweet 16 before or since. Bo has at least gotten the Badgers to the Sweet 16 three times.
I guess we all like to rip on the Badgers, but Bo is a good coach and Wisconsin is a solid basketball program. Vander Blue would be just fine there.
2 of those 3 times he should have been at least an Elite Eight / Final Four team. He makes great teams good.
Quote from: mu-rara on March 27, 2009, 12:13:46 PM
2 of those 3 times he should have been at least an Elite Eight / Final Four team. He makes great teams good.
Bo may have 3 sweet 16 appearances, but look at who they beat to get there.
This year was the first time Bo beat ANYONE ranked higher than a 9 seed...
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on March 27, 2009, 12:52:41 PM
Bo may have 3 sweet 16 appearances, but look at who they beat to get there.
This year was the first time Bo beat ANYONE ranked higher than a 9 seed...
+1. A statistic often overlooked by Bo-worshipers.
Quote from: LancesOtherNut on March 27, 2009, 12:52:41 PM
Bo may have 3 sweet 16 appearances, but look at who they beat to get there.
This year was the first time Bo beat ANYONE ranked higher than a 9 seed...
I agree. What I meant to say is BoBo underperformed in 2 of the 3 years he was in the Sweet 16.
Many WI alum. are growing tired with Bo's recruits. He just never has the talent to compete at an elite level. Look at the Duke vs. Nova game last night. Nova had better athletes at 4 of the 5 positions and Duke didn't look like they belonged on the court with them. Now picture WI in that spot? Will they have better talent next year? Will Vander Blue be happy running the swing offense with a team lacking athleticism? If he wasn't from Madison, UW wouldn't have had a chance. There is no doubt in my mind that his talent will be contained by Bo in many areas of his game. We'll see what he does, but the thought of him playing for UW worries me much less than the thought of him playing for a BEAST team other than MU.
Now *that* I think is a fair criticism of Ryan. I think his recruiting isn't as good as it should be.
Quote from: dennycrane on March 27, 2009, 12:09:23 PM
:D
Lute can make players grow taller, run faster and jump higher. Lute also has the cure asthma. Those are the things that kept Butch out of the NBA. It was not a lack of skill or understanding of the game.
Arizona weather might of cured his asthma.