Is that true? Got an email earlier today suggesting that might be the case but no details.
EDIT: I'm asking the question to see if anyone else has heard anything. He/she said more tests to be run but no details. Total conjecture, but wondering if anyone else has info.
Who did you get that email from?
So what is his situation? I thought he had a stress fracture in a foot like Otule. Didn't sound all that serious. Is it more than that?
from listening to Buzz's post season presser it sounded like he had a mtg regarding this prior to it and there aren't any updates as of now.
Quote from: Shooter031 on March 24, 2009, 11:19:44 PM
Who did you get that email from?
A friend.... that is what he/she had heard. More tests or something to run and that this was one of the possibilities.
Again, no idea if this is true which is why I'm posting it as a question to see if anyone else is hearing this.
I certainly hope it isn't true, but most importantly would like to see him healthy.
I know it has nothing to do with his foot injury, right?
Buzz said Liam was lightheaded etc. the week before the tourney, went for some tests, and went for futehr tests this week. Nothing to do with his foot. Buzz had a meeting today, he said on his radio show last night. But no word. There are probably HIPPA rules which prevent letting this stuff out, so we may not know much for a while.
I pray he's going to be fine.
From Rosiak's story posted this evening:
"Then there's the case of 7-0 Canadian redshirt Liam McMorrow, who Williams said is continuing to undergo testing for a medical condition he wouldn't specify that could make his status for next season uncertain."
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/41796757.html
Quote from: Pakuni on March 24, 2009, 11:42:50 PM
From Rosiak's story posted this evening:
"Then there's the case of 7-0 Canadian redshirt Liam McMorrow, who Williams said is continuing to undergo testing for a medical condition he wouldn't specify that could make his status for next season uncertain."
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/41796757.html
Aiyeeeeeeeee!!!!!!! ?-(
I don't have any inside info whatsoever, but my guess is it probably has something to do with his heart. Since Hank Gathers, heart conditions have shut down the career of numerous athletes.
Marfans? Hope not.
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 25, 2009, 06:43:38 AM
Marfans? Hope not.
Gathers had an acute arrhythmia, not Marfan Syndrome. Marfan did take Flo Hyman as a young woman (one of the greatest US volleyball players of all time). Scary stuff
Wow once again Chicos is sooooo well connected that he gets an email about it a week after Buzz has spoken about it. Wow. Please tell us who it was Bobby Knight? peyton Manning, Barbara Streisand? please please tell us.
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on March 25, 2009, 08:26:34 AM
Wow once again Chicos is sooooo well connected that he gets an email about it a week after Buzz has spoken about it. Wow. Please tell us who it was Bobby Knight? peyton Manning, Barbara Streisand? please please tell us.
Seriously, get off it. As usual, your post has no relevance to the discussion at hand, and is completely devoid of any objective value.
Anyway, I hope Liam is alright. Losing him for next year would be unfortunate, and it would be even worse to find out that such a young guy was stuck with something that would keep him from pursuing his career.
Eddy Curry also had a potential heart condition that led the Bulls to trade him to New York because of his refusal to undergo genetic testing to alleviate their concerns about his safety.
Also, didn't Reggie Lewis have a heart problem?
I hope Liam is OK.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 25, 2009, 08:31:21 AM
Also, didn't Reggie Lewis have a heart problem?
His was a very complicated case -- http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101930809-162165,00.html
Back before the team left for Boise Buzz said that the tests "didn't look good" and that he'd "have to meet with the doctors" and that Liam couldn't travel with the team to Boise. I'm sorry guys but that doesn't sound very good. Doctor (s) plural and not being allowed to travel to the NCAA's (Which would be a great experience you wouldn't want a red-shirt to miss) It sure sounds career threatening. All we can do is pray.
Now for a selfish rant. What the heck is it with us and injury/illness thing. The amount of bad luck this team has been dealing with is way out of proportion. I'm starting to think there is some kind of hex on MU.
I was just thinking the same thing. Seems as if we are cursed. Hope Liam is OK, and if it is something serious I'm glad they caught it now.
Hexes are for losers. And Cubs fans.
Quote from: BrewCity on March 25, 2009, 09:38:36 AM
Hexes are for losers. And Cubs fans.
aren't they one in the same?
hope liam is ok.
Quote from: BrewCity on March 25, 2009, 09:38:36 AM
Hexes are for losers. And Cubs fans.
I'm sorry. I've been blinded by all the championship bling from Miller Park.
Godspeed to Liam.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on March 25, 2009, 08:47:56 AM
Back before the team left for Boise Buzz said that the tests "didn't look good" and that he'd "have to meet with the doctors" and that Liam couldn't travel with the team to Boise. I'm sorry guys but that doesn't sound very good. Doctor (s) plural and not being allowed to travel to the NCAA's (Which would be a great experience you wouldn't want a red-shirt to miss) It sure sounds career threatening. All we can do is pray.
Now for a selfish rant. What the heck is it with us and injury/illness thing. The amount of bad luck this team has been dealing with is way out of proportion. I'm starting to think there is some kind of hex on MU.
Amen Bro! On both counts! How much of this can possibly happen to MU? :'(
Yea this was brought up a week ago. At the time, Buzz said "It did not look good". Considering how honest the guy is, I took it to mean "It did not look good". He has since qualified that by saying it is not life threatening but it definitely could be career threatening.
For Liam, I will pray for him and hope for the best. I am glad that whatever he might have, that they found out about it before something happened to the young man.
From MU persepective, I didn't mind losing Riley at the time, but him picking Syracuse really hurts now. Hopefully we will be able to see Liam and his 7'0" athletic frame in the lineup next year.
Gathers had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy......... which is a thickening of the hear muscle, and is career ending as the muscle gets thicker and condition degenerates with further intense exercise.
If Liam had the flu, he would have been lightheaded and likely not allowed on a team plane to Boise for fear of infecting his teammates. Let's not jump of a bridge on this one and leap to cardiomyopathy, marfans is diganosable by sight, he doesn't have it, or any other of a number of bad conditions to have.
No offense to Chicos, but a friend of an anonymous poster on a message board does not make Woodward and Bernstein's Deepthroat source. If there's something career threatening here, I'll wait to hear it from Scott Kuykendal, Liam, or Buzz before I believe it.
Quote from: jficke13 on March 25, 2009, 10:07:10 AM
If Liam had the flu, he would have been lightheaded and likely not allowed on a team plane to Boise for fear of infecting his teammates. Let's not jump of a bridge on this one and leap to cardiomyopathy, marfans is diganosable by sight, he doesn't have it, or any other of a number of bad conditions to have.
No offense to Chicos, but a friend of an anonymous poster on a message board does not make Woodward and Bernstein's Deepthroat source. If there's something career threatening here, I'll wait to hear it from Scott Kuykendal, Liam, or Buzz before I believe it.
I agree, that's why I asked and tried to make sure everyone knew this was very much not a rock solid statement. Having said that, I believe on the other board it is now reported as well from some folks close to the program.
Hayward, your attacks are unwarranted in this thread. This is serious stuff.
I took Buzz saying, "It does not look good," to pretty much rule out the flu. I hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: jficke13 on March 25, 2009, 10:07:10 AM
If Liam had the flu, he would have been lightheaded and likely not allowed on a team plane to Boise for fear of infecting his teammates. Let's not jump of a bridge on this one and leap to cardiomyopathy, marfans is diganosable by sight, he doesn't have it, or any other of a number of bad conditions to have.
No offense to Chicos, but a friend of an anonymous poster on a message board does not make Woodward and Bernstein's Deepthroat source. If there's something career threatening here, I'll wait to hear it from Scott Kuykendal, Liam, or Buzz before I believe it.
No offense, but Buzz has said as much in terms of it potentially being basketball threatening. And if it's the flu, there's no way that after doctors are consulted, they need to do more tests. I'm trying to be optimistic, but HCM is a real possibility. Hopefully, hopefully, seriously, hopefully it's something benign, but at this point all signs don't really point that way. I'll be crossing my fingers, knocking on wood, and praying and stuff.
I think everyone is just wondering and speculating on what Liam's problem could be since the information that we are getting is so limited, and hoping and praying for the best. But the signals coming from Buzz and the fact that they are still doing testing almost two weeks after the original signs of a problem, coupled with indications that Buzz is still trying to recruit a big man for 2009 without a scholarship seemingly available, doesn't make me very comfortable.
Just to be clear when I said, "it could be the flu" I was just coming up with one alternative to career-threatening that could keep him off of that plane. I wasn't necessarily diagnosing the flu. I will however go ahead and say with almost total certainty that it is not Marfan's Syndrome.
Also, when Buzz used the pronoun "it" in "it doesn't look good" he could have meant it-Liam's career is threatened, or it-Liam's chances of getting on that plane are slim.
Quote from: BrewCity on March 25, 2009, 10:38:16 AM
I think everyone is just wondering and speculating on what Liam's problem could be since the information that we are getting is so limited, and hoping and praying for the best. But the signals coming from Buzz and the fact that they are still doing testing almost two weeks after the original signs of a problem, coupled with indications that Buzz is still trying to recruit a big man for 2009 without a scholarship seemingly available, doesn't make me very comfortable.
It's true that the thought of recruiting a big man could be because of Liam, but it seems like Liam's thing is pretty recent while we have been recruiting big man for a period of time. Unless it was a concern that just got worse right before Boise, I don't think the two situations are related. However, hopefully this is just a scare and it turns out to not be anything serious. From the sounds of it he has looked good in practice. It'd be nice havin an athletic guy over 7 feet.
My guess is that if it were simply the flu, something would have come out by now that would have said "it was just the flu." The fact that this is still out there a week later, and it has yet to be addressed in substantive terms, leads me to believe that it is something more substantial than that.
We generally hear about more common illnesses pretty quickly.
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House is looking into it now
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Quote from: Big Daddy Z on March 25, 2009, 07:12:08 PM
House is looking into it now
Excellent.
/we're both a*holes
Quote from: ringoutahoya on March 25, 2009, 04:44:45 PM
He wasn't in class today.
I have a lecture with him at one and he was definitely there.
Maybe one of you guys could ask him how he's doing.
Quote from: BrewCity on March 26, 2009, 07:59:09 AM
Maybe one of you guys could ask him how he's doing.
Isn't rumor and speculation more fun than going to the source?
Dr. House is phenomenal. Last year the trainers originally thought Mbakwe was dying of a rare skin disease but House diagnosed it correctly as a vaginal yeast infection, making it possible for Trevor to come back and have that breakout game against Pitt.