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Title: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: chapman on March 24, 2009, 05:34:05 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/11543311

He wants a higher level of competition--wonder if he lands in the Big East?
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: bma725 on March 24, 2009, 05:37:01 PM
Quote from: chapman on March 24, 2009, 05:34:05 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/11543311

He wants a higher level of competition--wonder if he lands in the Big East?

Remember, Coach Layer was part of the staff that recruited Seth Curry to Liberty last year before he joined Buzz. 

Curry can definitely play at this level, maybe Layer can recruit him all over again.

Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 24, 2009, 06:16:53 PM
I support hiring sons of coaches.

Diener, Novak...worked for us before.

Just too bad Jeremiah and his bro never took us seriously. But they'd also have big shoes to - proverbially - fill.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Buzz4Prez on March 24, 2009, 06:21:56 PM
I would be all over this guy, we could use a 2G for next year, he has had a year of playing D1 basketball, and he can clearly score. I know it was only Liberty, however he did average 20+ points a game which is impressive for any freshman anywhere
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: g0ldmember42 on March 24, 2009, 06:29:06 PM
I think this would be a huge "get" for the program. A nice high profile recruit who can obviously play and has some pedigree.... it will be very interesting to see how this one plays out.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: VwArrior1 on March 24, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
He only shot about 41% from the field and 34% from 3 against lower competition. Ill say pass.  Also for a transfer, he would have to sit out a year
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: CAINMUTINY on March 24, 2009, 06:33:13 PM
I'd take em, there should be little doubt the kid could contribute here at MU but I would be surprised if he left the south east as his mom and dad go to both his and stephen's games regularly.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Pakuni on March 24, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
Quote from: Buzz4Prez on March 24, 2009, 06:21:56 PM
I would be all over this guy, we could use a 2G for next year, he has had a year of playing D1 basketball, and he can clearly score. I know it was only Liberty, however he did average 20+ points a game which is impressive for any freshman anywhere

He wouldn't be able to play until 2010-11.
I wouldn't necessarily tell him no, but I'm not sure he's any better than Dwight Buycks.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 24, 2009, 06:36:39 PM
If he lands in the Big East it will be on of the teams truly in the East, not the Midwest. He's from North Carolina, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on March 24, 2009, 06:47:25 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 24, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
He wouldn't be able to play until 2010-11.
I wouldn't necessarily tell him no, but I'm not sure he's any better than Dwight Buycks.

+1
This is Seth - not Stephen!
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on March 24, 2009, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: Lockdown D on March 24, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
He only shot about 41% from the field and 34% from 3 against lower competition. Ill say pass.  Also for a transfer, he would have to sit out a year


For a freshman that had the ball as much as he did, that's not too bad.  Imagine redshirting him for a year and bulking him up, though.  

I know it's definitely a longshot, but considering the connection to Layer and the lineage (look at his Dad and brother), I think we need to make a run at him.  
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Buzz4Prez on March 24, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
I understand we are not talking about his brother, however this kid is only a freshman right now, with a year to sit out and bulk up and work on his shot, he could be a very good 3 year player. I just don't see how we couldn't at least take a look at him.

I also know that he is from NC, but I didn't think I saw a rule in the NCAA rule book anywhere that said that players from the east couldn't come to MU. I am not saying it is a lock that he comes here, but I am just saying that we should pursue it.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on March 24, 2009, 10:43:49 PM
Just a refresher, Mo Acker was Freshman of the Year in the MAC and averaged 12ppg I believe. And he shot really bad.

I'm not saying Acker's horrible, or this kid is either...just saying that stats in a smaller conference like Liberty's doesn't necessarily translate into scoring success in the Big East.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on March 25, 2009, 12:07:38 AM
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on March 24, 2009, 10:43:49 PM
Just a refresher, Mo Acker was Freshman of the Year in the MAC and averaged 12ppg I believe. And he shot really bad.

I'm not saying Acker's horrible, or this kid is either...just saying that stats in a smaller conference like Liberty's doesn't necessarily translate into scoring success in the Big East.


We're talking two different types of players with Acker and Curry IMO.

Acker was limited to a school like Ball State namely because of his size.  One of the reasons he ended up at MU was because of a coaching change and Jerel's reccomendation to Crean.

Curry had offers from Virginia Tech and Davidson.  Like his brother, he was a late bloomer.  His shooting numbers, percentage wise, really are no different than what Dominic James did as a freshman.  Also, a kid does not usually jump that quickly out of a program like Liberty unless he's gotten some very positive feedback from other programs.  His rep is certainly going to help him out here, but all in all, it's quite different than Acker's situation. 
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 25, 2009, 01:06:02 AM
Quote from: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on March 25, 2009, 12:07:38 AM
We're talking two different types of players with Acker and Curry IMO.

Acker was limited to a school like Ball State namely because of his size.  One of the reasons he ended up at MU was because of a coaching change and Jerel's reccomendation to Crean.

Curry had offers from Virginia Tech and Davidson.  Like his brother, he was a late bloomer.  His shooting numbers, percentage wise, really are no different than what Dominic James did as a freshman.  Also, a kid does not usually jump that quickly out of a program like Liberty unless he's gotten some very positive feedback from other programs.  His rep is certainly going to help him out here, but all in all, it's quite different than Acker's situation. 

Not only that, but Acker was given more of a green light to score and shoot.

Curry can benefit from a year out to strengthen himself and develop his game. Sitting out a year worked for Wade, albeit under different circumstances.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on March 25, 2009, 02:00:12 AM
Acker's freshman year stats at Ball State:

31.7 min, 9.2 PPG, 2.4 RPG, 4.6 APG, 32.6% FG, 29.8% 3PT, 79.6% FT

For comparison, Acker shot 29.7% FG and 28.8% 3PT this year. 


Curry's freshman year stats at Liberty:

36.5 min, 20.2 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 2.3 APG, 41.7% FG, 34.7% 3PT, 83.2% FT
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: MarquetteBallin on March 25, 2009, 02:40:22 AM
Don't be so reluctant to take Curry.....I'm sure Mrs. Curry would be sitting courtside at the BC for every game ;D
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Marquette84 on March 25, 2009, 08:20:31 AM
Quote from: Lockdown D on March 24, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
He only shot about 41% from the field and 34% from 3 against lower competition. Ill say pass.  Also for a transfer, he would have to sit out a year


There is a way to compare Curry's performance against a similar Big East player.  Obviously Liberty doesn't get the same quality in CONFERENCE play, but we can easily find a BE team with a similar NON-CONFERENCE SOS. 

In fact, checking Ken Pomeroy's SOS figures, we have an excellent comparison with Villanova:
Liberty's Non-Conference SOS was 177
Villanova's Non-Conference SOS was 176.

I'd say that's a pretty strong basis for comparison.  If we use only Non-Conference numbers, Curry will have faced similar competition to Corey Stokes and Corey Fisher.

Against that non-conference competition:
Curry shot 46.5% overall, 40.4% on treys.
Stokes shot 42.8% overall, 42.9% on treys.
Fisher shot 41.7% overall, 34% on treys.

And that's considering that Stokes and Fisher had a far superior PG in Scottie Reynolds feeding them AND both Stokes and Fisher had stronger supporting casts.

Based on this comparison, I'd say Curry is a good get.


Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: gjreda on March 25, 2009, 08:51:06 AM
Quote from: Marquette84 on March 25, 2009, 08:20:31 AM
There is a way to compare Curry's performance against a similar Big East player.  Obviously Liberty doesn't get the same quality in CONFERENCE play, but we can easily find a BE team with a similar NON-CONFERENCE SOS. 

In fact, checking Ken Pomeroy's SOS figures, we have an excellent comparison with Villanova:
Liberty's Non-Conference SOS was 177
Villanova's Non-Conference SOS was 176.

I'd say that's a pretty strong basis for comparison.  If we use only Non-Conference numbers, Curry will have faced similar competition to Corey Stokes and Corey Fisher.

Against that non-conference competition:
Curry shot 46.5% overall, 40.4% on treys.
Stokes shot 42.8% overall, 42.9% on treys.
Fisher shot 41.7% overall, 34% on treys.

And that's considering that Stokes and Fisher had a far superior PG in Scottie Reynolds feeding them AND both Stokes and Fisher had stronger supporting casts.

Based on this comparison, I'd say Curry is a good get.


Couple that with the fact that those non-conference games were the first of his college career.

I'm with the others.  Not saying we should get him, but you certainly have to give the kid a look, especially if we are going to have a scholarship open.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: Mayor McCheese on March 25, 2009, 09:00:37 AM
His stats are better than his brother's freshman year, and on similar programs...

Not saying he is the next Stephen Curry, but I would rather have him than some of the guys we are recruiting.
Title: Re: Seth Curry to transfer from Liberty
Post by: lab_warrior on March 25, 2009, 09:20:04 AM
kind of pipe-dreamish, but he'd fit what we need right now quite nicely...a combo guard, hopefully a shooter like his brother and father, and a nice high-profile recruit.
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