It was just announced that Jerrone was named WBCA Mr. Basketball. Congrats Jeronne. Article from Wishoops is below.
http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/blog/message.aspx?f=124&id=1015102 (http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/blog/message.aspx?f=124&id=1015102)
Congrats Jerrone! E Will named plater of his distric,lets keep the awards coming!
Bravo, Jeronne! Now finish off that state title!
Awesome... another Mr. Basketball from Wisconsin!! Congrats Jeronne!!
Quote from: LastWarrior on March 21, 2009, 11:54:21 AM
Awesome... another Mr. Basketball from Wisconsin!! Congrats Jeronne!!
+1
Now bring home the state title to Memorial.
And while you're at it, get next year's Mr. Basketball (Vander Blue) to come along with you to MU in 2010.
Who were the other ones who signed and played with MU?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Merritt and Novak former Mr. Basketballs?
Great job Jeronne......go get a state title tonight!
Quote from: The General on March 21, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
+1
Now bring home the state title to Memorial.
And while you're at it, get next year's Mr. Basketball (Vander Blue) to come along with you to MU in 2010.
Not too early to court Lomomba also.
Congrats to Jeronne! Did anyone watch his game last night? Was way more exciting than Wisconsin game in the first half (Which I admit is not really a compliment). Overtime win for Memorial. Jeronne hit all his throws in crunch time. Vander Blue is a player too! Wish we could have grabbed him. Should be a good game tonight against Racine and Wilson
Buzz - getting it done - Wisconsin Mr Basketball - Check
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 21, 2009, 12:53:14 PM
Who were the other ones who signed and played with MU?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Merritt and Novak former Mr. Basketballs?
Nope. Pieper and Christopherson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_%22Mr._Basketball%22_Award
Wes also
And Damon Key.
Awesome. Just awesome! Nice to have him aboard! Grats to Jeronne!
Quote from: bma725 on March 21, 2009, 02:48:23 PM
And Damon Key.
Clearly, I needed to read my own list more carefully. :P
Quote from: The General on March 21, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
+1
Now bring home the state title to Memorial.
And while you're at it, get next year's Mr. Basketball (Vander Blue) to come along with you to MU in 2010.
I am sure you know this, but Vander is going to Wisconsin!
What about this gentleman?
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/donald_smolinski
Quote from: mviale on March 21, 2009, 01:03:09 PM
Buzz - getting it done - Wisconsin Mr Basketball - Check
Helps when the biggest competition for him, Wisconsin, didn't even offer. Check
That being said, his prospects are high. I hope like hell the dad can tone it down a pinch. It's great to be supportive of your kids, but.....
Maymon and Madison Memorial beat Racine Horlick 56-41 in the Division 1 title game. The game was never even close. Maymon finished with 25 points and 12 boards. On the other side of things, Jamil Wilson shot 4 for 12 with 9 points for Horlick and apparently already picked up his fourth foul with about a minute left in the first half. It was good to hear that Maymon dominated!
CBB, I know you want MU to prosper but I know you also want Cottingham to fail...which is greater? Is it like if Roy Williams, Tom Crean and Bobby Knight were in a trivia contest, would you just cheer for one of the questions to be about you?
My guess is you want Buzz to take the Okla job this year after Capel goes to UVA and and have Cottingham stand up and say, "we should have listened to ChicosBailBonds, why did we hire a 2nd round coach who would leave when first round losers like McKillop, Grant and LEGENDARY STEW MORRILL were available"?
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on March 21, 2009, 11:55:04 PM
CBB, I know you want MU to prosper but I know you also want Cottingham to fail...which is greater? Is it like if Roy Williams, Tom Crean and Bobby Knight were in a trivia contest, would you just cheer for one of the questions to be about you?
My guess is you want Buzz to take the Okla job this year after Capel goes to UVA and and have Cottingham stand up and say, "we should have listened to ChicosBailBonds, why did we hire a 2nd round coach who would leave when first round losers like McKillop, Grant and LEGENDARY STEW MORRILL were available"?
Don't forget Jim Les. Chico's was all over Jim Les.
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on March 21, 2009, 11:55:04 PM
CBB, I know you want MU to prosper but I know you also want Cottingham to fail...which is greater? Is it like if Roy Williams, Tom Crean and Bobby Knight were in a trivia contest, would you just cheer for one of the questions to be about you?
My guess is you want Buzz to take the Okla job this year after Capel goes to UVA and and have Cottingham stand up and say, "we should have listened to ChicosBailBonds, why did we hire a 2nd round coach who would leave when first round losers like McKillop, Grant and LEGENDARY STEW MORRILL were available"?
Yep, I want Cottingham to fail....you nailed it. You are a mind reader DC.
No, I don't want Buzz to take the OU job, you see I crave stability in the program. We've had nothing but instability for the last 30 years until Crean came along. So I want Buzz to be here for a decade or more because that means two things
1) We're still winning and playing at a high level
2) It's good for the program to have stability and not have coaches jumping ship constantly
But don't worry DC, he isn't going to OU because OU isn't going to offer him the job. No one in the country is going to offer him a job this year because he hasn't proven he can do it on his own. That's the reality of it. Besides, if he left for OU DC, it wouldn't matter....right....as you said on here multiple times, MU is above the coach and pretty much anyone can step in and do the job. Besides, if he were to leave after one year at MU and one year at N.O., wow....wouldn't that be saying something. :o But don't worry, it ain't happening in a million years.
Pakuni....I was all over Jim Les? Really. Why, because he was one of many names thrown out there, that makes me "all over Jim Les"? Nope. Yes he was one of many names. I was all over Miller and Bennett at first. When that didn't pan out (don't think we really tried that hard) then I said, keep Buzz at bay and keep trying with others because Buzz isn't going anywhere. You can always get Buzz a week or 2 weeks later. That's what I said.
What I was all over was going through some qualified candidates rather than making it a 48 hour search. That's what I was all over. But since Buzz is the guy, I'm praying like hell he's going to continue to take us in the upward trajectory we have been on the last 7 years. If so, then it will be a home run for all. I didn't think the risk was worth it when MU had finally become a stable program again. I hope it works out like everyone else does, but risky is still risky. Buzz did a fine job this year that almost ANYONE mentioned on the list of candidates that were thrown out on this board would have done the same job. Whether it was McKillop, Weber, Les, Morril, Barry Switzer or Quin Snyder. We'll find out about Buzz in a few more years....risky.....but it might be a dead on right hire. Let's hope so.
Looks like Pakuni's old man syndrome is hitting him again. Here are the posts from last year....yeah, I was "all over" Jim Les. LOL http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=8942.50 You'll note that what I said then is exactly what I've said the last year, I've been consistent as hell on the subject. We'll know in a few years if this all works out, so far so good (which I've also said since the season started.....nice guy, passionate as hell, all the right intentions....let's hope it works out....I still would have been happier going after a more experienced coach because of the risk factor, but that is long gone yet you guys keep bringing it up along with putting in inaccurate aspects to it at the same time - you must hang out with mviale). ;)
MU's prized recruit vs. OR's prized recruit
Guess who won? ;)
(http://media.jsonline.com/images/436*400/wiaa1-22-mjs-wiaa1-22-3.jpg)
Does Butler or Xavier have coaching stability?
Sometimes extreme program contributions exceed the coach. Whe one year you're 5th in the NCAAs in operating revenue and two years later you spend the most per athlete, I think that shows a certain commitment to success that you didn't see here in 2000. Maybe that's the thing; maybe you just have to realize this isn't a mom and pop run out of the 1212...The Al, charted planes, hyperbaric chambers...life is a little different than when you were here last.
Of course it would beg the question, why did TC accomplish so much with so little and then when he had so much why did he do nothing...maybe b/c his $100,000 father-in-law wasn't doing his job...
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on March 22, 2009, 12:32:53 AM
Does Butler or Xavier have coaching stability?
Sometimes extreme program contributions exceed the coach. Whe one year you're 5th in the NCAAs in operating revenue and two years later you spend the most per athlete, I think that shows a certain commitment to success that you didn't see here in 2000. Maybe that's the thing; maybe you just have to realize this isn't a mom and pop run out of the 1212...The Al, charted planes, hyperbaric chambers...life is a little different than when you were here last.
Of course it would beg the question, why did TC accomplish so much with so little and then when he had so much why did he do nothing...maybe b/c his $100,000 father-in-law wasn't doing his job...
You're really setting Buzz and others to fail with those kinds of comments. So if Buzz doesn't succeed long term, what does that say? Let's hope it doesn't happen.
Butler....do you want us to be a midmajor? That's like your comment the other day that we should have recruited that complete stiff down at Loyola-Chicago to play center. Come on.
Xavier...yeah, they have stability right now. They also have their OWN on campus arena. They are in a city that doesn't have a NBA franchise so the public gets behind them. They are in a conference where they are TOP DOG. They have intangibles that we don't, quite frankly.
TC had the OLD GYM until 2004 I believe (or late 2003, can't remember). He had CUSA until 2005. Incidentally, we were chartering planes when I was there....we've been chartering since Kevin O'Neill. We also were number 7 in budget for men's basketball when I was there.....#7 in the country. So yes, things have changed in terms of practice facility and salaries, which is vital to the program, but we were spending heavily on men's hoops. Buzz has those things that Crean didn't. Buzz doesn't have to build a program from a non NIT team either, another HUGE benefit. He also gets to point to his first year success with one of the most experienced teams in the country....a great launching point. It should pay dividends for him.
At the end of the day, Buzz has an easier road then Crean did when he got here in 1999. Just as Deane had an easier road then O'Neill. Deane didn't get it done, but he did buy folks beers at Turners which made some students and fans perpetually in love with him (for the record, I liked the man, funny as hell, good coach, not a good recruiter, didn't see the big picture). I'm tired of MU taking a step forward, a step back, step forward, step back. McGuire, Raymonds, Majerus - Dukiet, O'Neill, Deane, Crean, Buzz....
Buzz has everything at his disposal, as you just said....salary, facilities, conference, support from the administration....no reason to fail....you just said it....he has everything. Let's hope he keeps it going, so far so good.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 22, 2009, 12:17:31 AM
Pakuni....I was all over Jim Les? Really. Why, because he was one of many names thrown out there, that makes me "all over Jim Les"? Nope. Yes he was one of many names. I was all over Miller and Bennett at first. When that didn't pan out (don't think we really tried that hard) then I said, keep Buzz at bay and keep trying with others because Buzz isn't going anywhere. You can always get Buzz a week or 2 weeks later. That's what I said.
What I was all over was going through some qualified candidates rather than making it a 48 hour search. That's what I was all over. But since Buzz is the guy, I'm praying like hell he's going to continue to take us in the upward trajectory we have been on the last 7 years. If so, then it will be a home run for all. I didn't think the risk was worth it when MU had finally become a stable program again. I hope it works out like everyone else does, but risky is still risky. Buzz did a fine job this year that almost ANYONE mentioned on the list of candidates that were thrown out on this board would have done the same job. Whether it was McKillop, Weber, Les, Morril, Barry Switzer or Quin Snyder. We'll find out about Buzz in a few more years....risky.....but it might be a dead on right hire. Let's hope so.
Ah. Chico's ...
1. Your goat is got way too easily. Fish in a barrel, my friend.
2. Play it down all you want, the fact remains you expressed indignation last year over the fact MU turned to Buzz Williams instead of Jim Les and Chris Lowery, among others.
3. I'd like to know how you know that McKillop, Morril, etc. would have gotten the same results out of this team. Heck, McKillop had arguably the best player in the country and couldn't even get past the semifinals of a weak conference.
4. People keep "bringing it up" only in response to your constant and annoying not-so-subtle digs and backhanded compliments toward the current coach (like mentiong that UW didn't recruit Maymon). I'm sure next time you're singing the praises of TC, you'll be first to note that Dominic James came to Marquette because Indiana never offered him. Or that Dwayne Wade came to Marquette because his first choice, DePaul, passed on him. Because you're a fair man, I have no doubt you will do so.
Read what I posted Pakuni, don't make it up. Search is your friend. My point then was simple, Buzz could have been had many weeks later so why not keep trying to get a bigger named coach than taking the risk.
The risk may work out fine, so far so good, but why take the risk. That was the "indignation" I expressed. If you actually READ what I wrote, again the search function is your friend (no need to fabricate) you will see that it was the unnecessary risk that I was most upset with.
And you're right, comparing McKillop's team this year to last year's team is appropriate? ::) Do you read what you write sometimes? And you're also right, I don't know if Morril (who I never suggested) or McKillop or anyone else would have 100% done what Buzz has this year, but with 99% assurance, they would have. We were a top 20 team before anyone was even named coach. But to put that shoe on your foot, you also don't know if any other hire would have done even better. None of us do, so why you keep bringing up April of last year, 11 months later is beyond me.
By the way, DKC....I secretly hoped Cottingham had the seizure, too. ::)
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on March 21, 2009, 11:55:04 PM
CBB, I know you want MU to prosper but I know you also want Cottingham to fail...which is greater?
DKC, couldn't you say the same thing about you and Crean last season?
CBB DKC, I know you want MU to prosper but I know you also want
Cottingham Crean to fail...which is greater?
As for the rest of this argument, I'll leave it to you guys to hash out.
I thought this post was about Jeronne Maymon!?