I love Buzz and think he is doing an absolutely wonderful job but i think he out htought himself tonight. We were incredibly efficient offensively in the second half taking the ball out of Jerel's hands. Jerel is pressing way too much and he did not handle the ball much in the second half...the result we moved the ball very well and got great looks. then with aminute left he takes the ball out of Ackers hands who had initiated offense very well in the second half. Buzz has got to after two seasons know Jerel will do something stupid.
How many times have we seen the pull up 3 with too much time on the clock with absolutely zero passes into the possesion. Was it a stupid decison by Jerel, absolutely but after you see someone make a stupid deciosn countless times you need to do soething about it. Does Jerel make that shot sometimes of course but make or miss it was a stupid shot at the wrong time. Let acker initatiate something some sort of screen and a guy coming off a screen even for a kickout to Jerel or wes or hayward or whatever we were drivbing and kicking and we went away from it on our two most important possesions. Every time Jerel touched the ball in New York he did something stupid ...so we give it to him on our two most important possesions?
Buzz needs to understand that is Jerel and for all of his ability the ball in his hands in that position is a bad thing. Especially after the stipid quick 3 we give it right back to him? The drive was ok but about 7 seconds too early. I was able to forgive Jerel for making Freshmne mistakes for about 1.5 years by his Junior year i was completely fed up with his mental mistakes, effort mistakes and physical mistakes are acceptable but to make so so so many stupid mental errors over and over agin is well how you never take the next step to being a great team.
Mid season he looked like he had finally shed all the stupid mistakes , he took fewer terrible shots and eliminated some of the stupid mistakes. But the last month he has been so absolutely horrendous, in fact he has been the worst player on the court in the two games in New York. That after 4 years i am simply exhausted watching the guy.
I am now resigned to the fact that he will probably play one more game for MArquette and i will be relieved he is gone. I have been die hard MU fan for over 30 years and never felt I could feel this way about an MU player let alone our all time leading scorer, in fact i usually devlop man crushes on the great Mu players. Jerel has purely becuase of his mental mistakes simply infuruiated me for 4 years. He simply ruins games and torpedoes MU, even apart form his three terrible plays in the last minute he tordedoed up the rest of the game too. lem elmore was beside himself with jerels play, Len i have endured it for 130 some games. I guess it will never change and i am simply looking forward to him no longer being on the team.
I hope you didn't make a good point, because with that criminal lack of paragraph usage, there is no way I was gonna read that thing.
Im sure I'll regret this, but right now I'm glad this is his last year. We've lived with his bad decisions for years thinking he'd grow from it. As a 4 yr starter playing in his next to last game, its like he learned nothing. I know it's not true but all the lessons he's learned over the years seemed to have been lost since DJ went out.
I blame Buzz for having McNeal run the final play. McNeal is simply too unreliable in those moments - both teams know that he is going to shoot regardless of what else happens. But this is really all on McNeal - he's played 4 yrs to know better than to do this.
Maybe a little over the top in this criticism.....but.....
There is no excuse for the 3 in the last minute and absolutely no excuse for losing your man on D on that last possession. The only thing I can imagine is he snuck a peak at the clock on the far bucket at the end. I just don't see how he lost the guy there. If anything, I would've expected he'd be drawn to the middle to step up and help Butler on the dribble drive. That would have been a mistake too if it meant leaving the guy underneath given the circumstances, but to stay outside with no one out there and leave a guy under the bucket. Hard to fathom what he must have been thinking.
McNeal has been my favorite since he came to MU after seeing him play in high school, but he truly does make some mind boggling plays. Who would've thought our biggest problem since James went down would be Jerel. For his peace of mind, I hope he comes out strong in the NCAA tourney. Somehow, he has to stay confident.
Would've loved another crack at Louisville. Why do we always seem to come up on the short end of these types of games. A shame after such an impressive comeback.
I'm having a hard time letting go of this one.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 12, 2009, 06:42:41 PM
I hope you didn't make a good point, because with that criminal lack of paragraph usage, there is no way I was gonna read that thing.
+1.
I skipped it entirely due to lack of paragraphs.
Just sayin.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 12, 2009, 06:42:41 PM
I hope you didn't make a good point, because with that criminal lack of paragraph usage, there is no way I was gonna read that thing.
I said to myself, "there's no way I'm even going to try," then read your post immediately below it and laughed out loud. Good stuff.
Quote from: warrior07 on March 12, 2009, 06:57:42 PM
I said to myself, "there's no way I'm even going to try," then read your post immediately below it and laughed out loud. Good stuff.
Haha I did the same. No chance I was reading that thing. Poor Hayward.
Felt like a dare, so I read the post. In summation, McNeal is too frustrating to watch and makes poor decisions. Mr. Hayward is looking forward to McNeal's departure.
After this game, difficult not to agree.
Not that it would have mattered but at that last play where McNeal lost his player, Matthews had an opportunity to at least take a run and put a scare into Anderson. Matthews just watched him lay it in as he took one step.
Next year should really be a great year!!! Heck we lose McNeal and the much maligned DJ. Lets throw a party!!!!!!! ::)
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 12, 2009, 06:51:52 PM
+1.
I skipped it entirely due to lack of paragraphs.
Just sayin.
I skipped it for other reasons....the author
you lames are all hillarious to me, talking so much about bad decision making, and about buzz putting the ball in jerels hands for the last play, maybe if you idiots use your brains you'll realize why buzz puts the ball in his hands for the last play, its because he is a play maker and the best player on the team, always wanna talk about the bad decisions but what about the good decisions, like the pass to mo in the corner for three, or the pass to lazar at the top of the key for three or when he hit the three his self off the pass from wes, the only play im dissapointed in is letting his man slip by him for the game winner, for all you that said he wasnt playin d on that play he actually was looking to help and lost track of his man, it happens to the best sometimes
Quote from: mcnealfan1 on March 13, 2009, 12:03:06 AM
you lames are all hillarious to me, talking so much about bad decision making, and about buzz putting the ball in jerels hands for the last play, maybe if you idiots use your brains you'll realize why buzz puts the ball in his hands for the last play, its because he is a play maker and the best player on the team, always wanna talk about the bad decisions but what about the good decisions, like the pass to mo in the corner for three, or the pass to lazar at the top of the key for three or when he hit the three his self off the pass from wes, the only play im dissapointed in is letting his man slip by him for the game winner, for all you that said he wasnt playin d on that play he actually was looking to help and lost track of his man, it happens to the best sometimes
I'm glad he put it in McNeal's hands. It would have been nice if McNeal had used the clock up. Going for the layup, even if he makes it, gives Nova time to take a 3 point shot. Still a one possession game. In a nutshell, NOTHING good comes from taking that shot. None.
Quote from: mcnealfan1 on March 13, 2009, 12:03:06 AM
you lames are all hillarious to me, talking so much about bad decision making, and about buzz putting the ball in jerels hands for the last play, maybe if you idiots use your brains you'll realize why buzz puts the ball in his hands for the last play, its because he is a play maker and the best player on the team, always wanna talk about the bad decisions but what about the good decisions, like the pass to mo in the corner for three, or the pass to lazar at the top of the key for three or when he hit the three his self off the pass from wes, the only play im dissapointed in is letting his man slip by him for the game winner, for all you that said he wasnt playin d on that play he actually was looking to help and lost track of his man, it happens to the best sometimes
What are lames?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2009, 12:07:49 AM
I'm glad he put it in McNeal's hands. It would have been nice if McNeal had used the clock up. Going for the layup, even if he makes it, gives Nova time to take a 3 point shot. Still a one possession game. In a nutshell, NOTHING good comes from taking that shot. None.
You are absolutely right Chicos. JM is our strongest player with the ball and so the ball should be in his hands. He just made a terrible mistake in shooting it too soon.
in all honesty, even if Jerel starts with the ball on the final possession, I'd rather have Wesley with the ball to finish the possession. Jerel has early career Lebron syndrome. Chokes when given the last possession shot. Stanford, Cuse, and now Nova. Granted there are plenty of other things to factor in but I'd like Wes to get an opportunity in this position if it happens during the tournament.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2009, 12:07:49 AM
I'm glad he put it in McNeal's hands. It would have been nice if McNeal had used the clock up. Going for the layup, even if he makes it, gives Nova time to take a 3 point shot. Still a one possession game. In a nutshell, NOTHING good comes from taking that shot. None.
+1
You take the last shot with 1 second on the shot clock. Then with 2-3 seconds for the rebound, you leave Villanova perhaps 3-4 seconds to go the whole court with no timeout. Jerel/Buzz/Marquette get an "F" for giving the game away.