well its been a while but since hs seasons are ending and recruits will be making their decisions in the near future I decided to create a united 2009 spring recruiting thread. Here are the major recruits Marquette is after, their lists, Marquette's standings, possible commitment times, and players most likely to leave:
Possible Players Leaving
Buzz has continued to recruit and possibilities have anywhere from 1 to 3 players leaving next year and while Hazel seems like an unfortunate candidate to leave the team, Fulce and Cubillan are not out of the realm of possibility either.
2009 Recruits
Darius Smith 6'1" Guard (OFFERED)
• Rated by BullsEyeBrothers as the best player in the state of Illinois, a four star on Scout, 89 on ESPN, and 3 star (113) on Rivals
• Gifted defensively and creates alot of the dribble, good slasher
• the most recruited guard in the country (Duke and Memphis have recently entered the race) and his list remains unclear as double digit teams are still in the hunt
• While he did visit the AL for the Christmas tournament Marquette is not considered to be a leader and the chances of landing him are small
• His High School team ended play today and his recruitment should become clearer in the near future
• http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=2431543
DeAndre Kane 6'4" Shooting Guard (OFFERED)
• Ranked as a 3 Star on Scout, 3 star on Rivals
• consider a shooter and scorer
• Recruitment has been very odd to say the least as he has decommited from two different schools meaning he could be more trouble than he's worth
• Has Mu in his top 4
• http://duquesne.scout.com/a.z?s=420&p=8&c=1&nid=3224259
Donte Medder 6'2" Point Guard
• consider by many to be the best uncommited play on the west coast, ranked as a 2 star on Scout (aka not evaluated), not on Rivals, and 90 on ESPN (the only ones to see him play)
• Has emerged very late onto spot light and is a gritty, defensive minded, pass first point guard
• Has offers from alot of lower level schools and MU is interested
• Seems like a talent who slipped through the cracks until recently but probably won't land at MU
• VIDEO: http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=11&isFirstMediaIdAudioOrVideo=video&playlist=http%3A//scouthoops.scout.com/asxplaylist.aspx%3Fs%3D75%26mediaids%3D649332
• http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=78118&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d78118%26season%3d2009
Glenn Bryant 6'7" Forward
• 3 star (140) on Rivals, 3 star on Scout, 89 on ESPN
• athletic forward
• numerous reports have Bryant REALLY liking Marquette and he has already visited once and is looking to visit again
• If Marquette offers (which they will probably after hearing on Latavious Williams) they are in VERY good position to land Bryant
• http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3182233
Latavious Williams 6'8" Forward (OFFERED)
• 5 Star (15th) on Rivals, 4 Star on Scout, 90 on ESPN
• VERY athletic Forward who is constantly playing above the rim but needs to add weight, could play C here
• eligibility is in question right now but reports from Latavious are that Memphis, Gtown, and Baylor are all in the lead
• Plays on the same team and good friends with signed Junior Cadougan, already visited with team for tournament, may visit in the next few weeks as his season is over
• http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=59505&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d59505%26season%3d2009
Those are the five names that Marquette has shown up with in the past few months and in the next few weeks we should find out where everyone falls. My prediction? I could see any 1 or 2 player combination of Kane, Bryant, Williams, or another guard signing with us. Should be an interesting couple of weeks...
Thanks for the summary bleedbluegold03 WadeTheWarrior.
After the report tonight fron the BET about Bryant, I'm most optimistic about landing him.
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball_recruits/glenn_bryant
However, Latavious sounds like the real deal too
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball_recruits/latavious_williams
Nonetheless, if we manage to sneak in as a top choice. I wouldn't mind getting another (top) guard in Smith
http://www.muscoop.com/wiki/doku.php/men_s_basketball_recruits/darius_smith
If Hazel leaves and one scholarship available, then immediately take Smith or Williams. If they go elsewhere, bank the scholy for 2010. No need for Kane or Medder, need to go after higher ranked guards in 2010 class.
Take Smith or Williams? We are not the leader for Smiith. Will he be there when it's our turn to draft?
Quote from: nyg on March 12, 2009, 07:17:41 AM
If Hazel leaves and one scholarship available, then immediately take Smith or Williams if they decide they want to play for MU. If they go elsewhere, bank the scholy for 2010. No need for Kane or Medder, need to go after higher ranked guards in 2010 class.
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Wording, ugh. If we are not the leader for Smith, then why even list him at all. Are we the "leader" for anyone?
This is starting to sound a bit like the '70's...Al McGuire said that in the later years he transformed from a "Recruiter" to a "Selecter".
Quote from: nyg on March 12, 2009, 07:40:10 AM
Wording, ugh. If we are not the leader for Smith, then why even list him at all. Are we the "leader" for anyone?
Probably Bryant.
Smith hasn't given an update since his season started, and back then we were not the leader. His list has expanded more since then, so there's no way to know. Latavious Williams left us off his most recent list a little more than a week ago.
we aren't to that point. But yeah, Allie, Butch, and other players became ambassadors to the program and were able to bring players in just because of that. Hopefully this can start to happen with the recruits we're bringing in and Buzz, while a great recruiter, can focus more on the in game coaching aspects. Becoming a perennial top 20 program can help to do this though.
Fulce and Cubillian aren't going anywhere. Fulce and Buzz are joined at the hip. Cubi is set to be a Senior...where is he going to go?
As for the recruits...(my order of prefrence)
-Darius Smith is the crown jewel. His season is finally over, so you would think there will be some news on him soon.
-Donte Medder is a nice looking PG. Late bloomer who is getting attention. Would fill a need.
-Latavious Williams...very talented, but alot of issues. Very close to Cadougan, which could help.
-Glenn Bryant is a nice athlete, but I dont see him doing anythnig more than dunking. It wouldn't be bad to grab an Oak Hill guy though...
No interest in Deandre Kane...talk about an "interesting" recruitment.
lets not forget about Vee Snaford a kentucky guard who has really opened eys, not sure where he stands or how good he truly is but some decent schools are sniffing around
http://marquette.scout.com/a.z?s=415&p=8&c=1&nid=3555565
If we sign two more players then Hazel and ??
Other potentials no specific order
Acker = graduation
Cubie= ??
Otule = ??
Fulce and Buzz relationship strong, a healthy Joe will contribute
Cubillan would not leave with only one year of eligibility left. Otule is also a Buzz recruit. Acker may decide to move on after getting his degree which would mean another point guard would be very important. I'd rather not speculate now though. Let's focus on the game at hand today and see what happens the rest of the season. April is a time for speculation.
Quote from: muwarrior87 on March 12, 2009, 10:00:33 AM
Cubillan would not leave with only one year of eligibility left. Otule is also a Buzz recruit. Acker may decide to move on after getting his degree which would mean another point guard would be very important. I'd rather not speculate now though. Let's focus on the game at hand today and see what happens the rest of the season. April is a time for speculation.
Why would Acker leave with the economy in the tank the way it is right now? He could use all next year to play ball and practice rather than study.
the man would be living the DREAM.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 12, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
Why would Acker leave with the economy in the tank the way it is right now? He could use all next year to play ball and practice rather than study.
the man would be living the DREAM.
I don't know why he would but last year during the end of the year picnic when Buzz said Acker was on pace to graduate spring '09 and then take graduate classes his senior season, Acker had this face that said, "yeah right coach" on it. I'm not saying he'll be gone for sure but it is a possibility. Plus, playing Jerel's sidekick is probably near the top of his list of things to do. He may still be here next year and I for one hope he is. He isn't the best pg to have but the experience, especially early, will help. I'm already fine with the class we have coming in and would be ok with one more but I don't really know where people are coming from thinking 2 more will come in.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 12, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
Why would Acker leave with the economy in the tank the way it is right now? He could use all next year to play ball and practice rather than study.
the man would be living the DREAM.
He can't just play, if he stays he has to enroll in classes. Doesn't necessarily have to be graduate classes, he could work on a second major or something, but he's got be in class and doing well enough to not hurt the APR.
I heard thet Jerel's got only one class, only one day a week this semester. That doesn't sound like too bad of a gig.
Quote from: bma725 on March 12, 2009, 10:26:09 AM
He can't just play, if he stays he has to enroll in classes. Doesn't necessarily have to be graduate classes, he could work on a second major or something, but he's got be in class and doing well enough to not hurt the APR.
right, and he could do the whole one class a week and then abandon the second major at the end of the year. ;)
Just like how Matt Leinhart was enrolled in classes his senior year aka taking ballroom dancing once a week.
I believe the NCAA stops checking after first semester. So Mo could take the Carmelo Anthony route (phys. ed., Introduction to Lunch), then skate through the second semester, perhaps just repeating the Lunch course. Hey, it works at Syracuse.
This is about life. Acker needs to stay in school and work on a master's degree. With the economy where it is staying in school and waiting things out would be my advice if I were his dad. Basketball is a means to an end. A Marquette Master's degree would be worth more to him in the end than anything else he could do.
if hazel is out id take bryant and a guard. i love bryants athleticism
In Bryant's videos he looks a lot like stanley robinson just dunking it every time.
thats not really a highlight video he really dunks it every time he touches it, really.
Quote from: GOMU1104 on March 12, 2009, 08:50:46 AM
Fulce and Cubillian aren't going anywhere. Fulce and Buzz are joined at the hip. Cubi is set to be a Senior...where is he going to go?
I could see Cube leaving if he feels he needs another year to properly recover from his shoulder surgeries. Remember, if he transfers he has to sit out a year, so for someone with some fairly serious injuries, that could be a positive.
Plus with the players that Buzz has coming in its not clear that Cube will see the floor next year. If he really believes he can play, it may make sense for him to transfer for his senior year... kinda like Robert Jackson did.
Downside for Cubes is that he most likely transfers to a worse basketball program with a bad academic reputation. Kid will never play professionally, so if I were him I would stay and get a degree that is worth something and has great alumni connections vs. transferring to play one year at Bumblef__k State.
But we aren't Cubes... maybe he really wants to play one whole season of college basketball as a starter.
I could see Cubillan leaving possibly, and I wouldn't mind if we managed to pick up Kane or the longshot Darius Smith. Regardless I think we will get at least one player since all signs point to Hazel's transfer.
Who seems like our most likely candidates? Bryant and Kane I assume.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2009, 02:30:21 AM
After the report tonight fron the BET about Bryant, I'm most optimistic about landing him.
http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball_recruits/glenn_bryant
Rocky... what report are you referring to?
Quote from: LastWarrior on March 23, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
Rocky... what report are you referring to?
someone said bryant walked past the MU section at the BET and said "see ya next year".
If we get Bryant hopefully he is good friends with doron lamb so maybe we could pick him up for '10
Quote from: Chili on March 23, 2009, 07:22:04 PM
someone said bryant walked past the MU section at the BET and said "see ya next year".
Here's the thread -
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=13070.msg121283#msg121283
Thanks guys!
I think Aker can now see that he will be important to next years team, so there is a reason for him to stay. I think there is a 100% chance that Hazel is gone, 75% chance the Culliban is gone and a 50% that Otule is gone. If McMorrow is significantly better than Otule, then I think Otule leaving goes up to 90%.
Quote from: BrewCity on March 12, 2009, 10:32:57 AM
I heard thet Jerel's got only one class, only one day a week this semester. That doesn't sound like too bad of a gig.
Not sure how many classes he has, but he's in one of mine (Dwight too) and we meet twice a week. Still a pretty good gig.
Quote from: bilsu on March 23, 2009, 10:05:14 PM
I think Aker can now see that he will be important to next years team, so there is a reason for him to stay. I think there is a 100% chance that Hazel is gone, 75% chance the Culliban is gone and a 50% that Otule is gone. If McMorrow is significantly better than Otule, then I think Otule leaving goes up to 90%.
How do you account for your conclusions and percentages?
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/24/sherrod-wright-to-visit-george-mason-deandre-kane-jarrid-famous-updates/
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on March 24, 2009, 11:28:33 AM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/24/sherrod-wright-to-visit-george-mason-deandre-kane-jarrid-famous-updates/
Former Seton Hall commit DeAndre Kane of The Patterson (N.C.) School is down to Marshall, Marquette and Rhode Island, according to Patterson coach Chris Chaney.
Does not speak very highly of this recruit that Marshal and Rhode Island are in his final three with Marquette.
I say pass.
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 24, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
Does not speak very highly of this recruit that Marshal and Rhode Island are in his final three with Marquette. I say pass.
+!
I always look at other schools our recruits have interest from. This is not impressive. Maybe that's why Buzz is hitting the recruiting trail hard this week!
With all the sanctions about to be unleashed on Florida State, has anyone heard any rumors about Michael Snaer possibly de-committing? We were in his top two or three schools, so it would make sense that if he decides not to go to FSU we might be back in the running.
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 24, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
Former Seton Hall commit DeAndre Kane of The Patterson (N.C.) School is down to Marshall, Marquette and Rhode Island, according to Patterson coach Chris Chaney.
Does not speak very highly of this recruit that Marshal and Rhode Island are in his final three with Marquette.
I say pass.
good call. you know, i'm really glad we never tried to recruit Stephen Curry, or Patty Mills, or any other players on Mid-Major programs. I mean, god, they play for mid-major programs.
Normally I agree about the relevance of other schools involved, but this late in the game the number of schools with open slots is limited.
Quote from: mu77vegas on March 24, 2009, 11:55:42 AM
+!
I always look at other schools our recruits have interest from. This is not impressive. Maybe that's why Buzz is hitting the recruiting trail hard this week!
I hope he isn't hitting the recruiting trail hard this week as this is a "no contact" period. Buzz said as much on his radio show last night. He said he was going to visit with all of the players already committed but that he can not be in communication with non-committed players.
Quote from: mu77vegas on March 24, 2009, 11:55:42 AM
+!
I always look at other schools our recruits have interest from. This is not impressive. Maybe that's why Buzz is hitting the recruiting trail hard this week!
You need to read up on Kane before you start making comments like that, there's a couple things that make the other schools on his list not matter so much.
1. It was a final four, with Virginia included, but when Leitao got fired he dropped UVA.
2. Pitt has had a standing scholarship offer for Kane since 2007. They want him bad. They wanted him when he left HS last year, but couldn't fit him in. They are the ones that placed him at the prep school when he reclassified. There has even been talk that he verballed to Pitt two or three times in the past.
3. Marshall and Rhode Island are there because they have guaranteed him playing time. He wants to go somewhere and play right away, that's why Pitt is no longer involved. Both Marshall and URI have supposedly promised major playing time as a frosh.
He's got a buddy at Marshall, Hassan Whiteside.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 24, 2009, 12:18:05 PM
good call. you know, i'm really glad we never tried to recruit Stephen Curry, or Patty Mills, or any other players on Mid-Major programs. I mean, god, they play for mid-major programs.
Clearly a high-percentage of mid major recruits turn into Stephen Curry's or Patty Mills instead of the Dwight Burkes, David Cubillans, Carlton Christians, and James Matthews of the world.
There are much better options on the table than Kane, so I say pursue those and if those don't work, bank the scholarship for next year.
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 24, 2009, 01:40:10 PM
Clearly a high-percentage of mid major recruits turn into Stephen Curry's or Patty Mills instead of the Dwight Burkes, David Cubillans, Carlton Christians, and James Matthews of the world.
There are much better options on the table than Kane, so I say pursue those and if those don't work, bank the scholarship for next year.
im sure buzz is going after the bigger fish too, but just because some better players have us on their list doesn't mean we are their top choice
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 24, 2009, 01:40:10 PM
Clearly a high-percentage of mid major recruits turn into Stephen Curry's or Patty Mills instead of the Dwight Burkes, David Cubillans, Carlton Christians, and James Matthews of the world.
There are much better options on the table than Kane, so I say pursue those and if those don't work, bank the scholarship for next year.
Yes but you clearly didn't say that. You made a general, sweeping statement. Based on your statement, you would have said the same exact thing about Stephen Curry, or Patty Mills, because they were recruited by lesser programs. Hell, look at how Saunders turned out at Duquense. If you did your research on Kane, you would know he could play. The dude averaged over 30 PPG and 11 RPG in his last year of high school while hitting 53% of his threes. Does that sound like someone we would want? I would say outside of Latavious WIlliams and
maybe Darius Smith (who both seem like longshots), this guy should be our #1 priority.
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 24, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
Former Seton Hall commit DeAndre Kane of The Patterson (N.C.) School is down to Marshall, Marquette and Rhode Island, according to Patterson coach Chris Chaney.
Does not speak very highly of this recruit that Marshal and Rhode Island are in his final three with Marquette.
I say pass.
MU missed on a kid four years ago named Seawright who had a very good career at Rhode Island. A lanky 6'8'' rebounder would have done well in Milwaukee the last four seasons, right?
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 24, 2009, 01:40:10 PM
Clearly a high-percentage of mid major recruits turn into Stephen Curry's or Patty Mills instead of the Dwight Burkes, David Cubillans, Carlton Christians, and James Matthews of the world.
There are much better options on the table than Kane, so I say pursue those and if those don't work, bank the scholarship for next year.
I'd be curious to hear who you think our better options are, and why?
Quote from: SCdem@MU on March 24, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
Former Seton Hall commit DeAndre Kane of The Patterson (N.C.) School is down to Marshall, Marquette and Rhode Island, according to Patterson coach Chris Chaney.
Does not speak very highly of this recruit that Marshal and Rhode Island are in his final three with Marquette.
I say pass.
I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members
- Groucho.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 24, 2009, 01:50:44 PM
Yes but you clearly didn't say that. You made a general, sweeping statement. Based on your statement, you would have said the same exact thing about Stephen Curry, or Patty Mills, because they were recruited by lesser programs. Hell, look at how Saunders turned out at Duquense. If you did your research on Kane, you would know he could play. The dude averaged over 30 PPG and 11 RPG in his last year of high school while hitting 53% of his threes. Does that sound like someone we would want? I would say outside of Latavious WIlliams and maybe Darius Smith (who both seem like longshots), this guy should be our #1 priority.
I'll admit I don't go and read everything there is to read on a recruit and I certainly don't go and watch HS games or even have clue as to what the competition level is in his area/HS conference.
Yes it is a general statement, but more often than not if a recruit only lists one major program and a bunch of mid-majors or nothing programs in his list, that indicates that he is a project, had a serious injury, lacks of ideal size, is a huge academic risk, or all the above or some combination.
I'm sure the kid has potential, but we really need players that will have an impact next year or the year after.
Quote from: bma725 on March 24, 2009, 01:19:24 PM
You need to read up on Kane before you start making comments like that, there's a couple things that make the other schools on his list not matter so much.
1. It was a final four, with Virginia included, but when Leitao got fired he dropped UVA.
2. Pitt has had a standing scholarship offer for Kane since 2007. They want him bad. They wanted him when he left HS last year, but couldn't fit him in. They are the ones that placed him at the prep school when he reclassified. There has even been talk that he verballed to Pitt two or three times in the past.
3. Marshall and Rhode Island are there because they have guaranteed him playing time. He wants to go somewhere and play right away, that's why Pitt is no longer involved. Both Marshall and URI have supposedly promised major playing time as a frosh.
I've read all I need to know. As far as your points:
1. Virginia sucks. That's why their coach was fired.
2. Pitt couldn't fit him in? They fit Levance Fields in. If he was so great they would have found a spot. Pitt wants him for depth. He is a 3-star recruit. He would be to Pitt what Cubes is to MU.
3. Marshall & RI have guaranteed him playing time. Of course he's interested because he would be riding pine @ Pitt - plus as Stone Cold stated, he's got a buddy @ Marshall.
In the initial post by Wade the Warrior: "Recruitment has been very odd to say the least as he has decommited from two different schools meaning he could be more trouble than he's worth" I agree!
Quote from: Marquette_g on March 24, 2009, 01:04:26 PM
I hope he isn't hitting the recruiting trail hard this week as this is a "no contact" period. Buzz said as much on his radio show last night. He said he was going to visit with all of the players already committed but that he can not be in communication with non-committed players.
I must have misread something out here in Vegas after a few beers during the Mizzou game. Although Buzz will be visiting Junior down in Texas and Junior's got a very athletic, uncommitted teammate that's he's close to...! It doesn't hurt to dream!
It's a non-contact period so he can't talk to Williams, but I'm sure him being there will make junior add a little more input to Latavious as to why he should follow him to MU.
I realize he can't talk to Williams but his relationship with Junior can't hurt.
The reality of the situation is that none of us know what is going to happen, so lets all stop speculating who is going to leave, and lets just let everything unfold. The fun of the off-season is not knowing which new recruits we might get. In due time everything will be revealed.
The other thing to remember is that all of these kids we are recruiting are 17-18, what might seem like a good idea one day, may not be a good idea the next. They may say we are on a list or we are the leader, but that can all change with one promise, or one bribe from another coach.
Toss Marcus Jordan on this list too. Getting interest from MU, Davidson, Arizona State, and Oklahoma per the Chicago Tribune. 6'2"/6'3" combo guard that just lead his HS team to the Illinois state championship.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2431427
Quote from: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on March 25, 2009, 02:06:22 AM
Toss Marcus Jordan on this list too. Getting interest from MU, Davidson, Arizona State, and Oklahoma per the Chicago Tribune. 6'2"/6'3" combo guard that just lead his HS team to the Illinois state championship.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2431427
that would be awesome if MJ started coming to games, haha
Liam's illness could change the recruiting picture drastically. I pray he's OK.
Quote from: ScoJo MoJo on March 24, 2009, 12:11:25 PM
With all the sanctions about to be unleashed on Florida State, has anyone heard any rumors about Michael Snaer possibly de-committing? We were in his top two or three schools, so it would make sense that if he decides not to go to FSU we might be back in the running.
I thought those sanctions were all football related?
Quote from: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on March 25, 2009, 02:06:22 AM
Toss Marcus Jordan on this list too. Getting interest from MU, Davidson, Arizona State, and Oklahoma per the Chicago Tribune. 6'2"/6'3" combo guard that just lead his HS team to the Illinois state championship.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2431427
Anybody know much about Marcus? I remember last year, it was said that Marcus was a much better player than his brother who's currently getting minutes with the Illini. How'd Marcus do this year? I know he went as a preferred walk-on but ended up with a scholarship.
More info on Marcus Jordan... seems like a glue guy. Perhaps something in the mold of Wes...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/highschool/chi-090324-marcus-jordan-recruiting-update,0,6343512.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/highschool/chi-090324-marcus-jordan-recruiting-update,0,6343512.story)
By Mike Helfgot | Special to the Tribune
7:51 PM CDT, March 24, 2009
Add Stanford and Butler to the list of teams pursuing Marcus Jordan, whose stock appears to be rising since he led Young to the Class 4A basketball championship last weekend.
The younger son of Michael Jordan -- his brother, Jeff, plays at Illinois -- has only one official offer, from Toledo. But Davidson, Oklahoma, Arizona State and Marquette have shown strong interest, according to Brian Davis, Jordan's summer-team coach since 7th grade and his representative in the recruiting process.
"My phone has been ringing off the hook since the weekend," Davis said. Jordan scored 22 points in Young's semifinal victory over Thornton and 19 in the championship-game win against Waukegan.
Davis cited two reasons why the unsigned senior hasn't been on more schools' radars for the late-signing period, which begins April 15.
"One, he is son of MJ," Davis said. "Yes, he is the son of the greatest player ever, but they don't know how to treat him -- how do we handle the situation? How do we get in touch with him? They just don't know how to recruit him.
"They figure he's too good for the mid-majors and they figure Michael is going to take care of it. He's stuck in limbo. If he had a different name than Jordan it would be simple."
The other reason?
"They don't know what position he plays," Davis said. "We see him as a combo guard, a 1 and a 2, and some want him to be one or the other. I look at him as a basketball player. He does anything he can to win."
Davis said Jordan will not follow the lead brother Jeff, who chose to walk on at Illinois rather than accept a scholarship to Valparaiso. Illinois has since given Jeff a scholarship.
"He wants to go somewhere that really wants him," Davis said. "He wants a scholarship off the bat.
"The kid is a winner. I don't see what these coaches are missing. If I was starting a team, he'd be the first player I pick."
I think glue guy is a good description. From the couple of times I've seen him, he would be a starter at the mid-major level, but probably moreso of a solid rotation player at a major program, a la Joe Chapman here at MU.
I don't think he has Wes' ceiling, though, because of the size and lack of position, whereas Wes has ideal size (maybe not quickness) for an NBA 2-guard. But he'd be an ideal Chapman-type player potentially, the type of solid, not spectacular guy that Crean always struggled to find when he was here since he always seemed to land studs (Wade, Diener, Novak, James, McNeal, Matthews, Hayward) or whiff completely (see the recruiting class of 2003) with very little of the Joe Chapman and Ousmane Barro-types in between. And the very type of guy Jimmy Butler was for us this year, and that we need a few more of on our bench.
Marcus Jordan - ESPN Report... http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=43449 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=43449)
Grade: 87
Evaluation
January, 2009: Jordan plays with maximum effort and intensity, ranking as a very good-glue guy, giving his team a boost in a number of categories on the court. He has very good athleticism, leaping ability, and quickness which allow him to excel in the open court, attacking the rim in transition. His hops helps him to finish in traffic when he gets to the rim and he has good body control and strength , which allows him to take contact at the rim, adjust in the air and still finish. Jordan, a lefty, can finish at the rim with just as easily with his right as he does with his left. He has a low release point on his jumper and would become a more consistent shooter from the perimeter if he releases the ball higher, an Achilles heel from Jordan at this point. His strength allows him to defend bigger players in the paint as well as battle for rebounds in traffic. Jordan also does a good job of playing passing lanes for steals. He passes the ball very well and sometimes plays as a point guard due to his ability to find open teammates. Jordan battles on every possession and does not take plays off.
December, 2008: Jordan is a strong and physical guard that is a good athlete. He is a lefty that loves to drive to his right to score. He has a good touch off the glass where he can hang and score. In transition he sprints the wing or he can rebound and start the break. Jordan can finish above the rim when he is ahead of the pack. He is a strong two foot vertical leaper. Jordan has a good mid range pull up but is streaky at best from behind the arc where he needs time and space to knock down the three. On drives to the rim Jordan uses his strength to dribble through contact to get to where he wants on the floor. He must work on his passing on the move and develop a scoring attack going right. He is a good on ball defender when he does not gamble for steals. Jordan is a solid mid major shooting guard.
July, 2008: Jordan consistently leads his team in scoring, with most of his points coming from his power moves and persistent drives to the hoop. Being the son of the legendary Michael Jordan is a heavy burden for any young man to have to carry. However to his credit, Marcus plays his game, his way. His trademark is using his very quick first step and strength to power to the basket, and for the most part, he is successful. However he lacks a consistent outside shot, and defenders soon learn to stay in front of him and prevent his trademark hoop moves. Again to his credit, he has improved his outside shooting accuracy. Most of Jordan's current college suitors are mid-majors. In every event he has attended this month he has performed at a high level, so don't be surprised if he plays for a high-major college.
June, 2008: Marcus is a smart player who can play either guard position. The southpaw's three-point shot has come a long way, to the point where he is now a very consistent threat from behind the arc. Although he doesn't have the type of explosive first step you might expect, he maximizes his potential getting to the rim by playing very low to the ground and taking long strides through the lane. Jordan is also a very powerful guard with a muscular frame that helps him to finish at the rim against contact. But he is plenty capable of pulling up off the dribble, and even does a nice job of creating space for his pull-up with a quick step back move. Jordan's overall handle is also very solid. That combined with good floor vision and passing ability, as well as excellent composure with the ball in his hands, allows him to slide to the point guard position when necessary. Marcus has also done a tremendous job of developing his weaker right hand as he scores in the lane and passes off the dribble with both hands. Overall, Marcus has a game and a physique that is already equipped for the next level.
November, 2007: The youngest son of NBA legend Michael Jordan, Marcus Jordan is a very good looking high school prospect. Marcus recently transferred to Whitney Young HS in Chicago and he should benefit from the increased competition at Whitney Young. Marcus is a very good athlete and has a very quick first step to the basket. He is strong for his class and is very good at using his body to finish at the rim. Jordan needs to become a more consistent shooter and will need to become a better playmaker for others as well. Currently, he is more athlete than player, but he has all the tools to become a special player as long as he works on developing his game.
Notes
Son of NBA legend Michael Jordan...Travel Team: Illinois Rising Stars...
I don't see how you could go wrong with taking Marcus Jordan........however if Liam's status is highly in doubt then I say we put a center on this list
Even if Jordan was a career 2nd or 3rd stringer (not saying he is), the impact of Dad being involved, even ever so slightly, in the program would clearly boost our prestige and ability to recruit. Are his sons' talent levels beneath NC? I assume so since they are not mentioned that I know of.
MJ + D. Wade adverts for MU? Yes please :)
Quote from: radome on March 25, 2009, 02:37:44 PM
Even if Jordan was a career 2nd or 3rd stringer (not saying he is), the impact of Dad being involved, even ever so slightly, in the program would clearly boost our prestige and ability to recruit. Are his sons' talent levels beneath NC? I assume so since they are not mentioned that I know of.
I honestly haven't noticed any increase on the "prestige meter" at Illinois now that MJ's oldest son is there...so I don't know how you can verify this claim.
Quote from: radome on March 25, 2009, 02:37:44 PM
Even if Jordan was a career 2nd or 3rd stringer (not saying he is), the impact of Dad being involved, even ever so slightly, in the program would clearly boost our prestige and ability to recruit.
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Quote from: muarmy81 on March 25, 2009, 02:50:42 PM
I honestly haven't noticed any increase on the "prestige meter" at Illinois now that MJ's oldest son is there...so I don't know how you can verify this claim.
I think it helps though. I know if I'm watching a tv with my friends and see Illinois on, I'll pause to see if Jeff is playing or if MJ is in the crowd. Also, Sportscenter will show MJ in the crowd if he is at the game, so there is a little added media attention. Also, the fact that Marcus is supposed to be a fair amount better than Jeff could help. People thought Jeff only got on Illinois because of his dad, and he was a walk-on not expected to play much, and Jeff has made a nice niche for himself at Illinois, Marcus could be a real solid player. How many state championships do you see make it to Sportscenter without it being an amazing game winner or game? I think it certainly wouldn't hurt if he came here, and he can play too. As much as we hope, not everyone is going to be a star recruit, we do need those glue guys and it appears Marcus is one of them.
Far more positives than negatives...and, if he's got any of his old man's work ethic and competitive fire, LOOK OUT!!
how would someone compare marcus and kane?
We just went thru 8 years of the marketing master, and it didn't materialize into the depth of roster that we need to win the Big East. We are already at the pinnacle of the best conference in the country - we need players. If he can play at the highest level, then great. But if not, we don't need him riding the pine for the sole purpose of having MJ in the stands.
Quote from: Mike McCarter on March 25, 2009, 02:51:14 PM
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If Jordan is going to advertise for any school, it is his alma mater. Just ask Bobby Frasor.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on March 25, 2009, 02:40:13 PM
MJ + D. Wade adverts for MU? Yes please :)
Since you brought it up, would we be a Team Wade or Team Jordan school then? ;)
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 25, 2009, 10:56:46 PM
Since you brought it up, would we be a Team Wade or Team Jordan school then? ;)
Well, Nike owns Converse, so I'm sure they could work something out.