When do we start cycling in some scrubs and leave 1-2 starters in?
Just started to do that with fulce in the game... The defense looks really bad with fulce, burke, cullbian, jerel, and acker on the floor...
Truth be told, he has kinda been doing it the whole game.
I agree that we should rest the starters... but lets trounce St. Johns... make it a statement game, our boys need one after losing 4 in a row.
Lets win by 40.
He is resting them. Fulce is in. Burke is playing. Cooby is playing.
We came out sluggish in the second half and were outscored 6-2. Now we have righted the ship. Your not going to see McNeal, Matthews, Hayward and Butler on the bench for 12 plus minutes straight.
It is interesting that now that Buzz is subbing more freely that our defense has taken a huge hit.
Lets see some OTULEEEEEE
Frozena?!??
Hazel? Is he deep in the dog-house? And why? I think I saw Frozena off the bench before him last time that came around.
alrite buzz even the announcer is saying get mcneal outa there lets go, we are killing them,
Take them out
just logged on to see if anyone else was thinking that this was ridiculous that our guys are still in the game. I want me some Otule!!!
Leave it to the Warrior Nation walkons to start ripping Buzz in the midst of a 30 point blowout.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 11, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
Leave it to the Warrior Nation walkons to start ripping Buzz in the midst of a 30 point blowout.
You have to admit, its sort of ridiculous that they are in still....
I hear that Buzz is finally getting a rest and DJ is coaching the rest of the way.
Fulce has a great line.
1 Reb, 3 PF.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 11, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
Leave it to the Warrior Nation walkons to start ripping Buzz in the midst of a 30 point blowout.
If we were on the other end of this blowout, you'd be calling it classless that the starters are still in the game. And you'd be right.
Now we know why Buzz has so little faith in his bench. Fulce and Otule both like they've missed a year. I hate to speculate, but you have to wonder if Hazel has already told Buzz he's gone.
Quote from: T-Bone on March 11, 2009, 03:25:21 PM
Hazel? Is he deep in the dog-house? And why? I think I saw Frozena off the bench before him last time that came around.
I'm starting to wonder if Hazel is getting the Ryan Amoroso treatment, i.e. no playing time if you're transferring.
+1.
I thought the exact same thing. The kid is from Queens, for God's sake, and Buzz refuses to give him 10 seconds of playing time in a 30-point blowout in NYC????
Up 36 with 4 to go, then he pulls them. Buzz really can't trust some of his players and at times I believe it. Oh boy, Otule looks real lost, Fulce at least ran up and down the court, Hazel gets no PT, and a walk-on plays. The hockey player McMorrow better have some skills. Nice win.
Nah, Ryan Amoroso got the Carlton Christian treatment.
Looks like he did rest them:
Burke 19 mins.
Zar 27
Mo 27
Jerel 26
Wes 31
Butler 26
Cooby 25
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 11, 2009, 04:25:32 PM
Nah, Ryan Amoroso got the Carlton Christian treatment.
Carlton Christian got the Kevin Menard treatment.
Though, as a good a kid as he seemed, I'm not sure there was any other way to treat Menard.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2009, 04:48:49 PM
Carlton Christian got the Kevin Menard treatment.
Though, as a good a kid as he seemed, I'm not sure there was any other way to treat Menard.
WOW! Kevin Menard. I forgot about him. Wasn't he TC's first recruit and first transfer if we give TC a pass on Krunti Hester?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2009, 04:48:49 PM
Carlton Christian got the Kevin Menard treatment.
Though, as a good a kid as he seemed, I'm not sure there was any other way to treat Menard.
I don't see any comparison between Menard and Christian, outside of the fact that they both left.
Menard was a good kid who was outmatched at MU and found his level at Carthage.
Christian had high-major talent but was a head case. Ditto with Amoroso.
I'm inclined to think Hazel (if he leaves) is more like Menard than like Christan or Amoroso.
Quote from: Marquette84 on March 11, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
I don't see any comparison between Menard and Christian, outside of the fact that they both left.
Menard was a good kid who was outmatched at MU and found his level at Carthage.
Christian had high-major talent but was a head case. Ditto with Amoroso.
I'm inclined to think Hazel (if he leaves) is more like Menard than like Christan or Amoroso.
Sigh ... first, I'm not saying anything about the relative character, good or bad, of any of these kids. In fact, I said Menard seemed to be a good kid.
I was - with tongue firmly planted in cheek - comparing their situations in that their minutes all but vanished when it became clear they had no future at Marquette beyond the present season. Menard played two minutes in conference play, both in January. Amoroso's situation, obviously, was an extreme example.
Sorry my (perhaps terrible) attempt at making light of the situation was lost on some.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2009, 04:48:49 PM
Carlton Christian got the Kevin Menard treatment.
Though, as a good a kid as he seemed, I'm not sure there was any other way to treat Menard.
No, Kevin Menard got the Krunti Hester treatment.
So you don't think pressing with 3-4 minutes to go was a bit overkill today? Besides the fact I don't think its a very classy move, which if thats how you want to do things you can but what comes around goes around. However wouldn't you want to rest your starters for the rest of the tourney? What good does it have them running around when its not necessary or to get them hurt.
Quote from: JohnnyJungle on March 11, 2009, 05:39:58 PM
However wouldn't you want to rest your starters for the rest of the tourney?
Despite what some people are saying in this thread. We did rest our starters a LOT in this game. At least compared to usual. Watching the game, Buzz took out all his starters as soon as Norm took out his starters.
I think that's fair.
As for pressing. That's just how we play. I don't think the guys would know how to play D if Buzz told them to do something else. Another thing to keep in mind on defense, is that the previous 5 games (including Gtown - despite the fact we won), Marquette was absolutely getting torched on defense. I'm sure buzz wanted to get that corrected.
That said, I can understand why you'd be frustrated with the moves (starters/press). Marquette has been on the receiving end of several blowouts, and I'm never happy that the other team just keeps coming at us.
Wasn't Carlton C the first guy to say "Coach, I'm leaving after the season." so Crean didn't play him. -- Although I do remember him getting in to the game vs. SMU up in Green Bay.
.. Menard, afaik .. didn't drop the bomb during the season, did he?