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RANK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1. Pittsburgh (69) 25-2 1,797 4
  Last Week: Def. Connecticut 76-68 (2/16), Def. DePaul 80-61 (2/21)
  This Week: Lost  to Providence 81-73 (2/24), Def. Seton Hall 89-78 (2/28) 

2. Connecticut (1) 25-2 1,692 1
  Last Week: Lost to Pittsburgh 76-68 (2/16), Def. South Florida 64-50 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Marquette 93-82 (2/25), Def. Notre Dame 72-65 (2/28) 

3. Oklahoma (2) 25-2 1,643 2
  Last Week: Lost to Texas 73-68 (2/21)
  This Week: Lost  to Kansas 87-78 (2/23), Def. Texas Tech 78-63 (2/28) 

4. North Carolina  24-3 1,556 3
  Last Week: Def. North Carolina State 89-80 (2/18), Lost to Maryland 88-85 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Georgia Tech 104-74 (2/28) 

5. Memphis  24-3 1,543 5
  Last Week: Def. Southern Methodist 90-47 (2/18), Def. UTEP 70-63 (2/21)
This Week: Def. UAB 71-60 (2/26), Def. Southern Miss 58-42 (2/28) 

6. Louisville  21-5 1,403 7
  Last Week: Def. Providence 94-76 (2/18), Def. Cincinnati 72-63 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Georgetown 76-58 (2/23), 3/1 vs. Marquette (23-5) 

7. Duke  22-5 1,228 9
  Last Week: Def. St. John's 76-69 (2/19), Def. Wake Forest 101-91 (2/22)
  This Week: Def. Maryland 78-67 (2/25), Def. Virginia Tech 72-65 (2/28) 

8. Marquette  23-4 1,169 10
  Last Week: Def. Seton Hall 79-67 (2/17), Def. Georgetown 78-72 (2/21)
  This Week: Lost to Connecticut 93-82 (2/25), 3/1 at Louisville (22-5) 

9. Michigan State  21-5 1,136 6
  Last Week: Lost to Purdue 72-54 (2/17), Def. Wisconsin 61-50 (2/22)
  This Week: Def. Iowa 62-54 (2/25), 3/1 at Illinois (23-6) 

10. Villanova  22-5 1,125 12
  Last Week: Def. Rutgers 82-72 (2/19), Def. Syracuse 89-86 (2/22)
  This Week: Def. DePaul 74-72 (2/25), Lost  to Georgetown 56-54 (2/28) 

11. Missouri  23-4 1,094 11
  Last Week: Def. Colorado 66-53 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Kansas State 94-74 (2/25), 3/1 at Kansas (23-5) 


12. Clemson  22-4 1,050 13
  Last Week: Def. Maryland 93-64 (2/17), Def. Georgia Tech 81-73 (2/22)
  This Week: Lost  to Virginia Tech 80-77 (2/25), Lost  to Florida State 73-66 (2/28) 

13. Wake Forest  20-5 992 8
  Last Week: Def. Georgia Tech 87-69 (2/18), Lost to Duke 101-91 (2/22)
  This Week: Def. North Carolina State 85-78 (2/26), Def. Virginia 70-60 (2/28) 

14. Arizona State  21-5 869 14
  Last Week: Def. Arizona 70-68 (2/22)
  This Week: Lost  to Washington 73-70 (2/26), Lost  to Washington State 51-49 (2/28) 

15. Kansas  22-5 812 15
  Last Week: Def. Iowa State 72-55 (2/18), Def. Nebraska 70-53 (2/21)
This Week: Def. Oklahoma 87-78 (2/23), 3/1 vs. Missouri (24-4) 

16. Purdue  21-6 765 19
  Last Week: Def. Michigan State 72-54 (2/17), Def. Indiana 81-67 (2/21)
This Week: Lost  to Michigan 87-78 (2/26), Def. Ohio State 75-50 (2/28) 

17. Gonzaga  21-5 661 17
  Last Week: Def. Loyola Marymount 91-54 (2/19), Def. Pepperdine 92-58 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Santa Clara 81-73 (2/26), Def. San Diego 58-47 (2/28) 

18. LSU  23-4 541 23
  Last Week: Def. Arkansas 72-69 (2/18), Def. Auburn 79-72 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Florida 81-75 (2/24), Def. Kentucky 73-70 (2/28) 

19. Xavier  22-5 413 16
  Last Week: Lost to Charlotte 65-60 (2/19), Def. George Washington 71-53 (2/22)
  This Week: Def. Saint Joseph's 68-54 (2/26) 

20. Illinois  22-6 364 18
  Last Week: Lost to Penn State 38-33 (2/18), Def. Ohio State 70-68 (2/22)
  This Week: Def. Minnesota 52-41 (2/26), 3/1 vs. Michigan State (22-5) 

21. Washington  20-7 291 22
  Last Week: Lost to UCLA 85-76 (2/19), Def. USC 60-51 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Arizona State 73-70 (2/26), Def. Arizona 83-78 (2/28) 

22. UCLA  20-7 268 20
  Last Week: Def. Washington 85-76 (2/19), Lost to Washington State 82-81 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Stanford 76-71 (2/26), Def. California 72-68 (2/28) 

23. Florida State  21-6 217 NR
  Last Week: Def. Miami (FL) 80-67 (2/18), Def. Virginia Tech 67-65 (2/21)
  This Week: Lost  to Boston College 72-67 (2/24), Def. Clemson 73-66 (2/28) 

24. Butler  23-4 192 21
  Last Week: Lost to Milwaukee 63-60 (2/18), Def. Davidson 75-63 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Youngstown State 78-57 (2/26), Def. Cleveland State 58-56 (2/28) 

25. Texas  18-8 162 NR
  Last Week: Lost to Texas A&M 81-66 (2/16), Def. Oklahoma 73-68 (2/21)
  This Week: Def. Texas Tech 87-81 (2/25), Lost to Oklahoma State 68-59 (2/28) 

We drop to between 16 and 20.

I voted for "13th or higher," not because I think that's where we belong, but because I think that's how the voters will likely see us. If anything, I think these last 2 games, against 2 top-6 teams, down a (very important) man, proves that we do belong in the top 10.

Lose to #2 and #6 in the country, we should be around 13.

Quote from: ecompt on March 01, 2009, 01:29:55 PM
We drop to between 16 and 20.

It's statements like this that make me wonder why i bother with this board.

If you have us dropping as much as 12 places because we lost to #2 and at #6, then you have Clemson and AZ State dropping out of the top 25.

We drop 2 places to 10.

#12

I think the voters will not be kind for losing a game we could have won at UL.

But there are A LOT of Top 25 battles going on right now and in the coming week.

This is playing out just like the irrational panic we saw the week we lost to USF.  The average guess was we drop 7 places, we dropped two.

When you get to March and you lose to #2 and #6, you don't move that much.  

WHO CARES WHO CARES WHO CARES WHO CARES WHO CARES!!!!!!!!   All I care about is our seeding in the NCAA.  We're not Duke or UCLA, so I am sure we will drop a bit, but if the voters want to drop us a lot of losing to two top 8 teams, then that's their view.  I'd rather get to the sweet 16 than be ranked 16th, and lose in the first round. 

Yeah, but we also lost James and I'm sure many voters will take that into account along with our two losses. I hope we'll be around 12.

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 01, 2009, 01:39:32 PM

I think the voters will not be kind for losing a game we could have won at UL.

I disagree. I tend to think the voters will be impressed and surprised we only lost by 4 at Lou--I know I was. Had we gotten drummed I think they would've taken it to us in the polls b/c it would be easy to assume we'd fade away quietly without DJ given how thin we were beforehand.

Count #11 Mizzo in the equation, they are getting spanked by Kansas.  Spanked.

anotherMU, the voters will take into account we have lost our point guard as well as our two losses. If we drop only two places, it will be the first time in poll history a Top Ten team went 0-2 and dropped only two places. Without DJ we are NOT the 10th-best team in the country. 

Quote from: nyg on March 01, 2009, 02:03:44 PM
Count #11 Mizzo in the equation, they are getting spanked by Kansas.  Spanked.

by 23 with less than 13 left.

That'll probably be more like 13 at the end of the game.

Quote from: ecompt on March 01, 2009, 02:08:56 PM
anotherMU, the voters will take into account we have lost our point guard as well as our two losses. If we drop only two places, it will be the first time in poll history a Top Ten team went 0-2 and dropped only two places. Without DJ we are NOT the 10th-best team in the country. 

You're giving the voters WAY too much credit.  Fran Fanchilla forgot to rank us a few weeks ago!

The voters are sportswriter (SP).  I'll bet that majority of them don't even know who DJ is.

maybe you're right, and maybe 16 to 20 was too low.

This is what I hate about the polls, not much logic is used, it is typically based on emotion and what conference your team plays in.  Logically, if you vote 1 team #2 and another #10 and #10 losses why should they go down in the polls at all?  Isn't that the way it's supposed to play out?  In fact it could be argued that if the game is close enough the losing #10 team should move up in the polls.  That rarely happens though.  The people who vote are too busy to take time to analyse the situation.  They see a loss and they vote the team lower.  We lost to #2 and #6 as the #10 rated team.  We should stay right at #10 but I bet we fall to #15. 

Who cares. I would just like us to win a game against a high quality team.

50th :D

I'm going to say 14. 

I think we're 12.  With the loss of DJ, loss at home to UCON, and loss at L'ville, voters will not be so kind as to drop us only two places.  Without the loss of DJ, I agree that we would be 10, but voters will take the loss of DJ into account.

11 ap
13 espn

12th

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2009, 01:33:49 PM
 

It's statements like this that make me wonder why i bother with this board.

If you have us dropping as much as 12 places because we lost to #2 and at #6, then you have Clemson and AZ State dropping out of the top 25.

We drop 2 places to 10.

Hah.  Both are wrong, although ecompt was closest.  Coaches we're at #15 .. ecompt guessed 16-19.    You were far too optimistic at #10.

I would have preferred anotherMU to be correct.