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Title: Blackledge?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 21, 2007, 06:56:01 PM
My neighbor mentioned that he thought Blackledge was NOT on the MU bench today, i.e., didn't make the trip.  I spent a few minutes watching the game again, but it's pretty tough finding a good sideline shot.

Anyone else notice that?
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: MarquetteBallin on January 21, 2007, 07:04:28 PM
He didn't make the Louisville trip either. My guess is LB won't be around next year.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 21, 2007, 07:08:14 PM
Quote from: MarquetteBallin on January 21, 2007, 07:04:28 PM
He didn't make the Louisville trip either. My guess is LB won't be around next year.

He's a junior, not many people transfer for their senior years only.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: MonsterWebWarrior on January 21, 2007, 07:09:47 PM
Well, we need a spot to open up next year...
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Rocco on January 21, 2007, 07:17:41 PM
I was wondering the same thing.  I really like Blackledges energy.  I was disappointed when Burke was getting the minutes over Trend.  Does anyone have any actual information regarding this?  Maybe it was grades, he hasn't played since semester?
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 21, 2007, 07:20:20 PM
When you're a rising program like MU's, the revolving door is bound to be permanent.

But that's a good thing. I hope Trend stays around, but with more signees than spots, this might be an good indicator.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: TVDirector on January 21, 2007, 07:32:20 PM
if, as another poster a bit back mentioned, trend is NOT making the grade when it comes to game prep, then obviously there is an issue and he no longer has the ability nor option to contribute during any games.
does this mean certain transfer?
hard to say, as he's a juco, moved up here for his jr. year--- would he be likely to go elsewhere?
smaller school?
sit out another year?

tough questions.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: herboturbo on January 21, 2007, 07:40:47 PM
Quote from: Rocco on January 21, 2007, 07:17:41 PM
Maybe it was grades, he hasn't played since semester?


Well Louisville and Pitt were the only games since the semster started so it is possible.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Rocco on January 21, 2007, 08:00:00 PM
Just realized Jamil Lott didnt play at all today either.  Anyone know why?
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: StillAWarrior on January 21, 2007, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: Rocco on January 21, 2007, 08:00:00 PM
Just realized Jamil Lott didnt play at all today either.  Anyone know why?
I don't know why, but I honestly don't think Lott brings a a whole lot to the team right now.  I think Burke is quickly is getting to the point where he brings just as much to the game.  As an added bonus, with Burke, when he plays he's getting experience that will benefit the team next year.

Generally speaking, I wouldn't suggest selecting a player for playing time based upon a desire to give them experience for next year.  I think you should always play the kids that give you the best chance to win the game that you're in.  But, if two players are pretty much equal -- and I think Burke and Lott are -- then it certainly doesn't hurt to award playing time to the one who is going to suit up for you next year.

Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Tulsa Warrior on January 21, 2007, 08:59:02 PM
If it's academics a transfer may be a good idea.  It would give him a chance to straighten that out and work on his weight.  If it's just an issue of playing at this level D2 might be the best bet.  He worked his butt off to get the credits to be admitted to Marquette and deserves a pat on the back for that.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Rockmic87 on January 21, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
Personally, I really dont think we need trend next year, and I think TC wasted a scholarship when he didn't get the Juco player that went to indiana.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: mviale on January 21, 2007, 10:24:54 PM
I think Crean is a phenomenal coach, but why does he alway mess up with these last second recruits.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Marquette84 on January 21, 2007, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: mviale on January 21, 2007, 10:24:54 PM
I think Crean is a phenomenal coach, but why does he alway mess up with these last second recruits.


ANY player has a LOT more potential to help you than an empty spot on the roster.

Its obvious when you watch the roster moves at any major program that there is no need to "bank" scholarships--a spot will open up if necessary.

Meanwhile,  if your alternative is the prospect of an open roster slot, why not give a guy like Blackledge a try?  Best case--he turns out to be a hidden gem who can really help.  Worst case, he transfers to a program more suited to his ability. 

I fail to see the harm. 



Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 22, 2007, 08:15:17 AM
Every guy you bring on your team represents a ginormous investment in time and energy, both past and future.  There is indeed a cost/benefit beyond a guy being a warm body. -- The "worst case" isn't that he transfers.  It's that he doesn't pan out, and doesn't transfer. 

.. Rosiak will have something on Blackledge in his story this week, perhaps tomorrow (Tues).  Wouldn't say what.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Marquette84 on January 22, 2007, 09:36:42 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 22, 2007, 08:15:17 AM
The "worst case" isn't that he transfers.  It's that he doesn't pan out, and doesn't transfer. 

Won't happen.

Players don't decide if their schoalrships are renewed--the coaching staff does. 

If things don't pan out and the coaching staff has a better recruit ready to sign, its a stone cold lock that the player will not be holding a scholarship the following year.



Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on January 22, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
Now that this comes up it certainly does lead me to believe that it is probably an academic issue. Obviously with one more signee than scholarships, someone is going to go. It also causes me to recall an exchange between Blackledge and James at the end of the WVU game when Blackledge entered the game. DJ kind of grabbed him and said something and the both had a little chuckle. Insignificant enough, yet it did cause me to take notice. In retrospect now though that would more than likely have been Blackledge's last opportunity to play with the semester starting the following week, and they would have long known of academic issues or plans to transfer because of academic struggles - and I assume the comment was probably related to that. Beyond that, transfering at semester would allow him to be eligible mid-season next year and still get his entire final year. Plus, knowing he was likely to go obviously would allow Crean to sign the extra player.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Djgoldnboy on January 22, 2007, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: NaivinRJohnson on January 22, 2007, 09:58:34 AM
DJ kind of grabbed him and said something and the both had a little chuckle. Insignificant enough, yet it did cause me to take notice. In retrospect now though that would more than likely have been Blackledge's last opportunity to play with the semester starting the following week, and they would have long known of academic issues or plans to transfer because of academic struggles - and I assume the comment was probably related to that.

You can get that all out of two people chuckling?  WOW.......... ::)
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on January 22, 2007, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: Djgoldnboy on January 22, 2007, 10:09:26 AM

You can get that all out of two people chuckling?  WOW.......... ::)

I'm quite ceratin I didn't say I got all of that from two people chuckling, but thanks for asking. You may notice I pointed out one more signess than scholarships, he hasn't been with the team since the semester started, I used words like in retrospect. I simply took it is one additional dot that could potentially be connected.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: bartmiller#1 on January 22, 2007, 10:49:31 AM
Something to keep in mind with the "extra" player we've signed is that the NCAA is considering awarding an extra scholarship to teams that meet certain academic standards. 

I don't know if this will happen or not, but it's a possibility.  We don't necessarily need someone to leave in order to make it possible. 

FWIW, I've heard Trend is working on his grades and isn't making trips while he's trying to catch up in the classroom. 
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: NYWarrior on January 22, 2007, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: bartmiller#1 on January 22, 2007, 10:49:31 AM
FWIW, I've heard Trend is working on his grades and isn't making trips while he's trying to catch up in the classroom. 

the semester is one week old......how far behind can he possibly be?
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 22, 2007, 11:30:01 AM
Touché, monsieur kitten cat.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: bartmiller#1 on January 22, 2007, 01:19:19 PM
I don't know how far behind he is. 

Maybe Crean isn't happy with how he did first semester and is making him work harder?  Just because he's not technically ineligible does not mean that Crean and the staff can't make him focus on the books. 

No idea.  Anything is possible.  I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that the guy is on the way out of town at this point. 
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 22, 2007, 01:26:59 PM
I suggested throwing a scholarship at Trend when his teammate turned us down was a complete waste of a scholarship and was vilified on this board. For all the credit Crean gets for his hard work, it was a glaring example of lazy "recruiting."
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: mu03eng on January 22, 2007, 01:32:00 PM
First, PRN, you are now vilifying him based on rampant speculation that could all be imagined at this point.  Second, what would you have Crean do with the scholie if he didn't extend it to Trend?  Third, would you not agree that he has show flashes of great potential?  With a scholarship that was going to be wasted anyway, why not take a flyer on a kid who would at most be here for 2 years?
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: Marquette84 on January 22, 2007, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 22, 2007, 01:26:59 PM
I suggested throwing a scholarship at Trend when his teammate turned us down was a complete waste of a scholarship and was vilified on this board. For all the credit Crean gets for his hard work, it was a glaring example of lazy "recruiting."


Let me suggest that you were villified because your alternate choice--a guy by the name of Empty Seat--had FAR less upside potential than Trend.

But lets assume you got your way--that Crean signed him instead of Blackledge.  Imagine if your choice was on the roster:

Empty Seat--the preferred choice of Tom Crean's brain trust PuertoRicanNightmare--so far has appeared in zero games for the Golden Eagles.  He's got zero points on 0-0 shooting, and putting up a .000 FT percentage (to complement his .000 3 point FG%).  Zero rebounds, and asssists.  Hasn't helped one bit in practice.  Hasn't had a kind word of encouragement for his teammates all season.  In essence, Empty Seat has been a complete ZERO.

Well, there is one good thing--ES hasn't turned the ball over yet.  

Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 22, 2007, 02:53:04 PM
Would redshirting Trend be out of the question? Is it too late to do so? More importantly, would it be worth it?
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 22, 2007, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 22, 2007, 02:53:04 PM
Would redshirting Trend be out of the question? Is it too late to do so? More importantly, would it be worth it?

He could redshirt next year - too late this year.
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on January 22, 2007, 03:31:55 PM
we most certainly could redshirt him.  the thing is, it doesn't really do us much good.  even when redshirting, he takes up a schollie, and then he would also take up a scholarship that 3rd year.  i don't really mind the blackledge experiment, but with the emergence of burke and our class of bigs coming in next season, i say get him off the books asap...
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 22, 2007, 03:32:56 PM
When he had his book signing .. I asked Crean about Trend redshirting, and one of his reasons for not doing so was that they needed roster guys and a deeper bench, with 2 walkons already.  Terrible that, especially during the "real" season, it looks like we won't have his services at all.

Question: Best guess is academically ineligible .. can he still practice with the team, or is he banished from the Al, like Lazar was?
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: ILYBL on January 22, 2007, 04:34:06 PM
I just got word that Blackledge is academically ineligible
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 22, 2007, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: ILYBL on January 22, 2007, 04:34:06 PM
I just got word that Blackledge is academically ineligible

You certain on that?  This might be worth an MUScoop e-mail...
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: herboturbo on January 22, 2007, 05:35:20 PM
Someone else mentioned that as well on the other board, unless its the same person posting it on each board
Title: Re: Blackledge?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 22, 2007, 06:20:36 PM
"Personal Reasons" is the official word now.  Supposed to be with the team at the SH game.
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