With like a minute to go the announcer called MU warriors.... as soon as there is a video we should find that
In my family, we still call them the "Warriors."
Nice to hear the Marquette fans chant, "We are Marquette."
That was nice to hear that. Thank You Mike Patrick
Mike Patrick sounded deliberate. Almost made up for 40 minutes of Elmore and Hightower.
And well they should have. They will always be the Warriors.
You mean they're not the Warriors?
Isn't Warriors what everyone calls them?
Cept those tree hugging liberals I guess
Quote from: warriorfred on February 21, 2009, 03:11:40 PM
In my family, we still call them the "Warriors."
Nice to hear the Marquette fans chant, "We are Marquette."
Love the chant at the end of the game....that's the third road game this year where our fans were louder than the home fans...including DePaul and ND...good stuff.
This treehugging liberal calls MU the Warriors. But thanks, 06, for elevating the conversation.
I was at a bar in Rhode Island couldnt hear the tv. Does anyone have a clip of us louder than the home team? Would love to see it.
Also Oldgym way to take 06 comment personal. I imagine 06 has a sense of humor about him.
Quote from: MUWarrior06 on February 21, 2009, 03:50:21 PM
Isn't Warriors what everyone calls them?
Cept those tree hugging liberals I guess
Did you forget to use teal?
The vast, vast, vast majority of Marquette fans call them the Golden Eagles. Like it or not, its been the nickname for 15 years now. The MU freshmen were 3 years old when the name change happened. I doubt they care much.
We will always be the Hilltoppers.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 21, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
Did you forget to use teal?
The vast, vast, vast majority of Marquette fans call them the Golden Eagles. Like it or not, its been the nickname for 15 years now. The MU freshmen were 3 years old when the name change happened. I doubt they care much.
That's assuming there are more MU fans twenty-something and younger than twenty-something and older.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 21, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
Did you forget to use teal?
The vast, vast, vast majority of Marquette fans call them the Golden Eagles. Like it or not, its been the nickname for 15 years now. The MU freshmen were 3 years old when the name change happened. I doubt they care much.
The student section busts out the Let's Go Warriors chant every single game.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 21, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
The vast, vast, vast majority of Marquette fans call them the Golden Eagles.
I don't believe that. If you said the majority of MU fans refer to the team as "Marquette" .. as in "Marquette is doing pretty well this year." or "Great win for MU today."
Yes.
But I've just never heard anyone say "Great win for the Golden Eagles."
Warriors, yes. Marquette, yes. MU yes. Very rarely "Golden Eagles".
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on February 21, 2009, 03:55:22 PM
that's the third road game this year where our fans were louder than the home fans...including DePaul and ND...good stuff.
Its really all about where the microphones are placed. We were loud at ND, but the ND fans drowned us out fairly easily if they actually tried.
Keith
I'm ashamed of the unoriginal, lame___ Golden Eagle name. It should be relegated to po dunk schools in Mississippi. I love the Marquette name. I love the Warrior name. It works too good and makes too much sense, the Priests/liberal propaganda had to ruin it.
And I'm in my 20's.
As a tree hugging liberal who loved the Warrior name and wasted my vote by writing in 'Warrior' during the "Gold" debacle, regardless of what we all think, this ship has sailed. However, I have a proposal. Where two or more MU fans are gathered to watch the game, we institute the "Warrior" drinking game. Every time an announcer calls them by that beloved name, and it happens once a game it seems, every MU fan in the place slams their drink.
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2009, 05:13:46 PM
As a tree hugging liberal who loved the Warrior name and wasted my vote by writing in 'Warrior' during the "Gold" debacle, regardless of what we all think, this ship has sailed.
I refuse to believe there is nothing we can do about the Golden Eagle name.
Now I've been around the college campus scene long enough now to know the ship has probably sailed on getting the Warrior name back. That would take leadership with backbone and non-herd mentality which is far too void in college administrations/faculty.
I'd rather just go by Marquette, no nickname, and a T Rex for a mascot.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 21, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
Did you forget to use teal?
The vast, vast, vast majority of Marquette fans call them the Golden Eagles. Like it or not, its been the nickname for 15 years now. The MU freshmen were 3 years old when the name change happened. I doubt they care much.
yeah it's not fair to infer that you can imply tone with the written word. so maybe just not say (borderline?) offensive things?
Quote from: Stone Cold on February 21, 2009, 05:18:47 PM
I'd rather just go by Marquette, no nickname, and a T Rex for a mascot.
That was my point during the Gold debacle. My choices were:
1. Warriors (wasn't going to happen, but that was what should have happened).
2. No Nickname. (We don't need one. We are Marquette!)
3. Golden Eagles (Because we now had 10+ years at the time of graduates that were "Golden Eagles")
To change it to something else just takes another decade plus of Marquette graduates and renders them without an identity.
This whole thing is stupid.
My wife (not a Marquette grad) calls us the Golden Showers. Yeah, she thinks our nickname is very inspiring. LOL!
-SE
I think that would be pretty cool. It would gain us some pub too for at least being original.
Loved it when I heard them called the Warriors. they'll always be the Warriors to me. Ashamed, Stone? Ashamed? Too strong, dude.
Quote from: SERocks on February 21, 2009, 05:26:35 PM
That was my point during the Gold debacle. My choices were:
1. Warriors (wasn't going to happen, but that was what should have happened).
2. No Nickname. (We don't need one. We are Marquette!)
3. Golden Eagles (Because we now had 10+ years at the time of graduates that were "Golden Eagles")
To change it to something else just takes another decade plus of Marquette graduates and renders them without an identity.
This whole thing is stupid.
My wife (not a Marquette grad) calls us the Golden Showers. Yeah, she thinks our nickname is very inspiring. LOL!
-SE
Does she also watch The Office or is she also a fan of Michael Scott?
See Wikipedia, The Office, Babyshower episode for further details :)
Quote from: Stone Cold on February 21, 2009, 05:03:14 PM
I'm ashamed of the unoriginal, lame___ Golden Eagle name. It should be relegated to po dunk schools in Mississippi. I love the Marquette name. I love the Warrior name. It works too good and makes too much sense, the Priests/liberal propaganda had to ruin it.
And I'm in my 20's.
golden Eagles is patheticaly lame. The whole Gold thing is a bust. The fans don't even wear Gold to the game. Should have stuck with Blue.
Digger just called them the Warriors in College GameDay Final.
Quote from: 79Warrior on February 21, 2009, 07:44:54 PM
golden Eagles is patheticaly lame. The whole Gold thing is a bust. The fans don't even wear Gold to the game. Should have stuck with Blue.
Totally agree - Navy blue, to me, is much classier - and easier for people to wear
Should-a would-a could-a...
Support your team now. Wear gold and ignore the nickname. We are Marquette.
+1
Let's Go Warriors!! Clap-Clap. Clap-Cap-Clap-Clap.
Obvious from my handle where I am on this topic.
Note: When attending games, I wear gold (OK - its really yellow) :)
+1 to brewtown Andy's comment. I really like hearing the Lets go Warrior's chant, even if they were only 5 or so years old when the team changed names. I think it's fun to annoy uppity PC students that think 'warriors' are a racist term.
I'd also add that I would think it'd be cool if we got every student to wear a gold(yellow) shirt to the game (a Gold out?)m even though I'd still wear my Wes Matthews Jersey. In fact I didn't mind that they called the student section "The Gold Rush" even if it was for just one season just before the Gold debacle. -Don't hate me I just think student sections with names are cool see: Izzone at MSU, Cameron Crazies, Grateful Red. Though I wouldn't mind a powder blue or navy out. Doesn't have the same feel as a whiteout or blackout but you get the concept
Quote from: Ari Gold on February 21, 2009, 08:42:43 PMIn fact I didn't mind that they called the student section "The Gold Rush" even if it was for just one season just before the Gold debacle. -Don't hate me I just think student sections with names are cool see: Izzone at MSU, Cameron Crazies, Grateful Red.
I don't get why they went through the effort of getting the student body to pick a name for the section and then abandoned it immediately.
Quote from: Ari Gold on February 21, 2009, 08:42:43 PM
+1 to brewtown Andy's comment. I really like hearing the Lets go Warrior's chant, even if they were only 5 or so years old when the team changed names. I think it's fun to annoy uppity PC students that think 'warriors' are a racist term.
I'd also add that I would think it'd be cool if we got every student to wear a gold(yellow) shirt to the game (a Gold out?)m even though I'd still wear my Wes Matthews Jersey. In fact I didn't mind that they called the student section "The Gold Rush" even if it was for just one season just before the Gold debacle. -Don't hate me I just think student sections with names are cool see: Izzone at MSU, Cameron Crazies, Grateful Red. Though I wouldn't mind a powder blue or navy out. Doesn't have the same feel as a whiteout or blackout but you get the concept
..... isn't that why everyone gets a Fanatic shirt?
90%+ of MU fans would love them to be the Warriors. Most of the rest just don't care.
Every MU fan just grins and bears it when they hear the "Golden Eagle" nickname...realizes its dumb...but cheers for the team anyway because its our school.
this tree-hugging moderate (I think everyone should pay for his own tree) also wrote in Warriors, knowing that it was a 'non-counter'- I just couldn't bring myself to vote for any other choices. I do wear some type of gold shirt to every game (had my bumblebee stripe on at Seton Hall), occaisionally under my old, blue, Marquette Warriors jacket. I often greet friends with the question "...how 'bout those Warriors?", and never hear back"...you mean Golden Eagles".
I'm a young alumnus and did not know MU existed until my senior year of HS. I realize that there are people at MU today who feel a connection to the Warriors name, having lived in Milwaukee and/or having parents who went to MU. I understand the history of the name and the program during that period. I have a little different take on this, if you'll indulge me for a sec.
When we went through the whole nickname thing the last time (Lord help us if 'Gold' stuck) I was telling my mom about the whole thing and I came to the conclusion that I was a Golden Eagle. I came to Marquette to be a Golden Eagle and if they changed the name I'd embrace it. Years later, though, I would identify myself not as whatever, but as a Golden Eagle.
Names are significant ... an identity. The Warriors identifies a specific period in Marquette's history that many of you were a part of. No one is telling you to forget that, and no one is telling you that YOU are a Golden Eagle. Your identity is stuck in time, just as mine would have been if the name changed.
My point is simply that today the school identifies itself as the Golden Eagles. It is no insult to you or your time at MU ... it was simply a change that a group of people thought was important 15+ years ago, however stupid or non-unique the name is. By all means, wear your 'Warriors' t-shirts and cheer your heads off. I just wish we all could get over the fact it changed and concentrate on what's important ... winning the NCAA.
Keith
Quote from: Ari Gold on February 21, 2009, 03:09:38 PM
With like a minute to go the announcer called MU warriors.... as soon as there is a video we should find that
Here's the video, plus that sweet dish from McNeal to Butler.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Tn8QKCYz8Eg&hl=en&fs=1
Quote from: krocheck on February 23, 2009, 06:07:45 AM
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When we went through the whole nickname thing the last time (Lord help us if 'Gold' stuck) I was telling my mom about the whole thing and I came to the conclusion that I was a Golden Eagle. I came to Marquette to be a Golden Eagle and if they changed the name I'd embrace it. Years later, though, I would identify myself not as whatever, but as a Golden Eagle.
Names are significant ... an identity. The Warriors identifies a specific period in Marquette's history that many of you were a part of. No one is telling you to forget that, and no one is telling you that YOU are a Golden Eagle. Your identity is stuck in time, just as mine would have been if the name changed.
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I think you make some excellent points and yet, you miss one key ingredient. Many of us felt as though we lost our identity with Marquette, the institution, when they changed the name. I like your "stuck in time" idea, and yet, it still misses the mark. They stole our identity when they changed the name.
This also is the reason why I did not want them to switch from Golden Eagles a few years back, it would have stripped another segment of Marquette graduates of their identity.
Face it, messing with school identity is not a good idea. That is what you do when you mess with the nick.
-SE
Quote from: SERocks on February 23, 2009, 08:46:21 AM
They stole our identity when they changed the name.
Your identity is your own. You are a Warrior. You can be proud of that fact, just as much as I am proud of being a Golden Eagle. Without going through it myself, I can somewhat understand how you can feel a certain disconnect with the University now.
Here's a question. Would it matter to you as much if MU did not have such a great athletics run in the 70's and they changed the name? Is it Al that you attribute it to so much? Is it because of Al's legacy and passing that you want it 'immortalized'? ( 1. Stupid questions, I know because that's how it happened; 2. Purely to gain a personal understanding)
I completely agree that changing the nick is not something that should be done, but its too late now.
Keith
For me, I did not identify with MU until I got there, which was Fall of 1982. Prior to that I did not follow MU Basketball or anything. However, I did know that I wanted to go to Marquette. My Grandfather graduated from MU's dental school and since I was in, I don't know, eighth grade or something, MU was where I was going.
Once I got to MU I was a huge basketball fan. Loved the name and the tradition. So, I don't identify so much with Al or 1977 or anything like that. I identify with MU (had since I was in eighth grade I guess) and the Warrior identity grew out of my experience at MU.
This is a very interesting way of looking at things. Ever since they changed the nick I have felt the disconnect and your line of thinking is a new one for me. I will have to further analyze it in my mind.
-SE
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2009, 05:13:46 PM
As a tree hugging liberal who loved the Warrior name and wasted my vote by writing in 'Warrior' during the "Gold" debacle, regardless of what we all think, this ship has sailed. However, I have a proposal. Where two or more MU fans are gathered to watch the game, we institute the "Warrior" drinking game. Every time an announcer calls them by that beloved name, and it happens once a game it seems, every MU fan in the place slams their drink.
Love the idea if we substitute GE, after 8-10 GE's, I'll care less when I hear it.
I think we would get pretty thirsty the other way.
Quote from: krocheck on February 23, 2009, 09:33:32 AM
Your identity is your own. You are a Warrior. You can be proud of that fact, just as much as I am proud of being a Golden Eagle. Without going through it myself, I can somewhat understand how you can feel a certain disconnect with the University now.
Here's a question. Would it matter to you as much if MU did not have such a great athletics run in the 70's and they changed the name? Is it Al that you attribute it to so much? Is it because of Al's legacy and passing that you want it 'immortalized'? ( 1. Stupid questions, I know because that's how it happened; 2. Purely to gain a personal understanding)
I completely agree that changing the nick is not something that should be done, but its too late now.
Keith
This is a pretty good line of thought.
Also, something to keep in mind is that I believe the "Hilltopper" name was abandoned as a marketing move to capitalize on the whole "Milwaukee Braves" coming to town.
Sounds crazy, but I think there are several articles that state this is true. (I can't seem to find them now, only more recent articles come up on google)
However, it seems like people clearly identify with "Warriors" more than "Hilltoppers" (probably because a lot of the pro-topper crowd is 6ft under).