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Title: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: avid1010 on February 20, 2009, 03:40:06 PM
Maybe I'm so biased that I can't have a decent thought about the Big Ten anymore, but how can he have the Big Ten with 8 teams in and Big East with 7.  Am I nuts to think that Georgetown and/or Notre Dame could win the Big Ten this year?
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: ATWizJr on February 20, 2009, 03:57:41 PM
Agree totally.  No way the Big Ten is a stronger conference than BE or ACC.  Lunardi has lost it.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: MU B2002 on February 20, 2009, 04:01:30 PM
He must be drinking the Kool Aid Lavin was dishing out last night.

Look at the first 4 out, Providence, Cinci, Georgetown, Miami.

No love for the Big East in Cracketology.

Maybe that 38-33 barn burner really convinced him how solid the Big Ten is.



But in the end isn't this better for us?  Less good teams to potentially face.  I would much rather play Penn State than any of those 4 in the tourney.

Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: KCWarrior on February 20, 2009, 04:18:43 PM
I still don't understand how Kansas and Missouri are threes and Marquette is a four. I live in Kansas City and have seen both teams play several times. There is no way either has a winning record in the Big East. They'd be down with G-Town and Notre Dame. Maybe Cincy and WVU.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: ErickJD08 on February 20, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
This all gives me a headache.  Illinois, the third best team in that conference, hasn't put up more than 70 in over 6 weeks.  They have two games where they have scored 33 and 36.   Big Ten has one of the worst teams in college.  It has probably the worst team out of all the teams in major conferences (not sure).  Iowa is not that good either.  This is unreal.  

The Big Ten hard nose defense is really overrated.  I have watched a bunch of games and they are low scoring because most (not all) the teams are sloppy and they miss open jumpers.  
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: esotericmindguy on February 20, 2009, 05:01:53 PM
Yup and they'll continue to point at the NCAA tourney and how successful they have been in recent years.  8-5 in 07' and 5-4 in 08', the garbage basketball seems to work because teams don't know how to play against it.  The big ten is awful to watch, and if they send 8 teams I feel sorry for the middle Big East teams that actually have to score 70 points to win a ball game.  ND wouldn't win the Big Ten by the way, they are awful.  Prov GT and Cincy would all be towards the top IMO.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: mwbauer7 on February 20, 2009, 05:12:28 PM
Xavier a 4 seed (#15 on the S Curve), and MU a 4 seed (#14 on the S Curve).

Hmm... 9-3 in the A-10 vs. 11-2 in the BE...
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: Norm on February 20, 2009, 05:52:27 PM
And of course we go out West to play in Boise and then possibly Phoenix.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: Norm on February 20, 2009, 06:03:04 PM
MU going out to Boise would stink, especially as he has #8 Ohio State playing in Dayton, #10 Davidson in Greensboro and #12 Florida in Miami.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 21, 2009, 01:03:24 AM
The Big Ten will not get 8 teams.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: Brewtown Andy on February 21, 2009, 01:55:26 AM
Quote from: KCWarrior on February 20, 2009, 04:18:43 PM
I still don't understand how Kansas and Missouri are threes and Marquette is a four. I live in Kansas City and have seen both teams play several times. There is no way either has a winning record in the Big East. They'd be down with G-Town and Notre Dame. Maybe Cincy and WVU.
Kansas:  Good Wins
RPI 1-25: N-Washington, Tennessee
RPI 26-50: Temple, Siena, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State

Bad Losses
RPI 101-200: Massachusetts

Missouri:  Good Wins
RPI 1-25: Kansas
RPI 26-50: N-Southern California, California, @Oklahoma State, @Texas

Marquette:  Good Wins
RPI 1-25: Villanova, West Virginia
RPI 26-50: Wisconsin, Cincinnati, Georgetown

Bad Losses
RPI 101-200: @South Florida
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: avid1010 on February 21, 2009, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 21, 2009, 01:03:24 AM
The Big Ten will not get 8 teams.

My biggest issue with this recent bracketology (and hopefully it changes drastically by tourney time) is that if the season ended right now, there's a GREAT chance Lunardi would be correct, as he has in the past.  I never hold it against him, as he clearly states they're not his picks, but simply how he figures the committee will pick. 

This winter I heard many sports reporters hoping for a Big Ten loses in football because they didn't want to see another BCS championship blow-out, and I'm getting to the point where I feel like it's simply money, money and more money for the NCAA.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: Avenue Commons on February 21, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on February 21, 2009, 01:55:26 AM
Bad Losses
RPI 101-200: @South Florida

There is no escaping the South Florida loss. That one will hurt our ranking for the rest of the year and really weight us down for a seeding in the tourney. It's just a fact.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 21, 2009, 11:47:30 AM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 21, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
There is no escaping the South Florida loss. That one will hurt our ranking for the rest of the year and really weight us down for a seeding in the tourney. It's just a fact.
True.  But the final five games plus the BET will help us in the RPI regardless of how many of the games we win.  If we do win 3 or so down the stretch, it will help in other ways beside the RPI.
Title: Re: 2-20-09 Bracketology
Post by: Pardner on February 21, 2009, 01:09:14 PM
MU will be, most likely, 5-5 in the all important last 10.  While the RPI will be up, that record will not get us a higher seed.  We have to run the gauntlet at 3-2.  Louisville game will be key.  If not, we must rely on the BET.
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