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Question: What Will MU Be Rated On AP Monday (Feb 16)?

Option 1: 9 or higher votes: 6

Option 2: Unchanged at 10 votes: 37

Option 3: 11th votes: 22

Option 4: 12th votes: 29

Option 5: 13th votes: 13

Option 6: 14th votes: 25

Option 7: 15th or lower votes: 12

Title: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 14, 2009, 10:14:33 PM

Now before you fly off at the handle like last week, see the stats below. CAREFULLY note the number of top 25 teams that lost. Are they all falling seven spots this week?

NCAA Division I: AP Top 25

1. Connecticut (67) 22-1 1,795 1
Last Week: Def. Louisville 68-51 (2/2), Def. Michigan 69-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Syracuse 63-49 (2/11), Def. Seton Hall 62-54 (2/14)

2. Oklahoma (3) 23-1 1,710 2
Last Week: Def. Texas A&M 77-71 (2/4), Def. Colorado 77-72 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Baylor 78-63 (2/11), Def. Texas Tech 95-74 (2/14)

3. North Carolina (2) 21-2 1,672 3
Last Week: Def. Maryland 108-91 (2/3), Def. Virginia 76-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Duke 101-87 (2/11), 2/15 at Miami (FL) (15-8)

4. Pittsburgh 21-2 1,583 6
Last Week: Def. Robert Morris 92-72 (2/2), Def. DePaul 92-69 (2/7)
This Week: Def. West Virginia 70-59 (2/9), Def. Cincinnati 85-69 (2/14)

5. Louisville 18-4 1,423 5
Last Week: Lost to Connecticut 68-51 (2/2), Def. St. John's 60-47 (2/8)
This Week: Lost to Notre Dame 90-57 (2/12), 2/15 vs. DePaul (8-17)

6. Duke 20-3 1,350 4
Last Week: Lost to Clemson 74-47 (2/4), Def. Miami (FL) 78-75 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to North Carolina 101-87 (2/11), 2/15 at Boston College (18-8)

7. Wake Forest 18-3 1,242 7
Last Week: Lost to Miami (FL) 79-52 (2/4), Def. Boston College 93-76 (2/8)
This Week: Lost to North Carolina State 82-76 (2/11), Def. Florida State 86-63 (2/14)

8. Memphis 20-3 1,237 14
Last Week: Def. Southern Methodist 79-66 (2/4), Def. Gonzaga 68-50 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Tulsa 63-37 (2/11), Def. Southern Miss 72-47 (2/14)

9. Michigan State 19-4 1,214 13
Last Week: Def. Minnesota 76-47 (2/4), Def. Indiana 75-47 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Michigan 54-42 (2/10)

10. Marquette 20-3 1,137 8
Last Week: Def. DePaul 76-61 (2/3), Lost to South Florida 57-56 (2/6)
This Week: Lost to Villanova 102-84 (2/10), 2/14 vs. St. John's (12-12)

11. UCLA 19-4 1,131 15
Last Week: Def. USC 76-60 (2/4), Def. Notre Dame 89-63 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Arizona State 74-67 (2/12), Lost to Arizona 84-72 (2/14)

12. Clemson 19-3 1,097 10
Last Week: Def. Duke 74-47 (2/4), Lost to Florida State 65-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Boston College 87-77 (2/10), 2/15 at Virginia (7-13)

13. Villanova 19-4 989 17
Last Week: Def. Providence 94-91 (2/4), Def. Syracuse 102-85 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Marquette 102-84 (2/10), Lost to West Virginia 93-72 (2/13)

14. Xavier 20-3 893 9
Last Week: Def. Temple 83-74 (2/5), Lost to Duquesne 72-68 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Dayton 71-58 (2/11), Def. Fordham 88-53 (2/14)

15. Butler 21-2 762 11
Last Week: Lost to Green Bay 75-66 (2/2), Def. Detroit 66-61 (2/5), Def. Wright State 69-51 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Illinois-Chicago 80-61 (2/13), 2/15 vs. Loyola (IL) (12-15)

16. Kansas 19-4 751 21
Last Week: Def. Baylor 75-65 (2/2), Def. Oklahoma State 78-67 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Missouri 62-60 (2/9), Def. Kansas State 85-74 (2/14) Tickets

17. Missouri 20-4 395 NR
Last Week: Def. Texas 69-65 (2/4), Def. Iowa State 82-68 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Kansas 62-60 (2/9), Def. Nebraska 70-47 (2/14)

18. Arizona State 18-5 389 24
Last Week: Def. Oregon 66-57 (2/5), Def. Oregon State 49-38 (2/7)
This Week: Def. UCLA 74-67 (2/12), 2/15 vs. USC (15-8) '

19. Gonzaga 17-5 361 18
Last Week: Def. Portland 93-78 (2/5), Lost to Memphis 68-50 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Saint Mary's 72-70 (2/12), 2/14 at San Francisco (9-16)

20. Purdue 17-6 353 12
Last Week: Lost to Ohio State 80-72 (2/3), Lost to Illinois 66-48 (2/8)
This Week: Def. Penn State 61-47 (2/11), Def. Iowa 49-45 (2/14)

21. Utah State 23-1 317 25
Last Week: Def. New Mexico State 78-59 (2/5), Def. Louisiana Tech 60-52 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Idaho 62-53 (2/12), 2/14 at Boise State (16-7)

22. Illinois 19-5 303 23
Last Week: Lost to Wisconsin 63-50 (2/5), Def. Purdue 66-48 (2/8)
This Week: Def. Northwestern 60-59 (2/12), 2/15 at Indiana (6-17)

23. Syracuse 18-6 280 20
Last Week: Def. West Virginia 74-61 (2/4), Lost to Villanova 102-85 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Connecticut 63-49 (2/11), Def. Georgetown 98-94 (2/14)

24. Ohio State 17-5 216 NR
Last Week: Def. Purdue 80-72 (2/3), Def. Minnesota 64-58 (2/7)
This Week: 2/14 at Wisconsin (15-9)

25. Florida State 18-5 182 NR
Last Week: Def. Georgia Tech 62-58 (2/5), Def. Clemson 65-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Virginia 68-57 (2/10), Lost to Wake Forest 86-63 (2/14)

Others Receiving Votes
LSU 167, Washington 135, Texas 106, Florida 66, Minnesota 43, Dayton 31, California 16, Kansas State 8, West Virginia 8, South Carolina 7, Davidson 7, Miami (FL) 7, Utah 4, Arizona 4, San Diego State 2, Siena 2, Northeastern 2, Robert Morris 1, Boston College 1, Green Bay 1.

Dropped From Rankings
Texas 16, Minnesota 19, Washington 22.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 15, 2009, 12:43:08 PM

so far no clear consensus

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: romey on February 15, 2009, 02:01:05 PM

I say 12, but depends on what Clemson does with Virginia today. I see Villanova passing us (they beat us) and Clemson passing us if they win.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: romey on February 15, 2009, 03:10:29 PM

Butler just lost to Loyola at home, so we'll stay ahead of them, and Clemson lost to Va. in OT, so an argument could be made they will stay behind us.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: reinko on February 15, 2009, 07:51:41 PM

Another loss by Dook too, curious how far they will fall after an 0-2 week.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: muwarrior87 on February 15, 2009, 11:12:44 PM

Quote from: reinko on February 15, 2009, 07:51:41 PM
Another loss by Dook too, curious how far they will fall after an 0-2 week.

not as far as they would if one of those losses wasn't to UNC. even though it was a bit of a blowout.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: willie warrior on February 16, 2009, 06:53:34 AM

Reputations

It will be interesting to see where we end up relative to Dook and Looserville.

Duke loses two--they should drop at least 6 slots, but I am guessing it will only be two or three with their rep.

Looserville compared to us should be very interesting. If we drop two or three spots with a split, what will Looserville drop? Their 33 point loss to ND alone should warrant at least 6 spots. After all--it was a blow out to an unranked team. And our loss was to a team that was hot and ranked--who then were blown out at WV

I am guessing we will drop two slots, and Looserville with Pitino's unwarranted huge rep will still be in the top 10

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: StillAWarrior on February 16, 2009, 07:39:56 AM

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 14, 2009, 10:14:33 PM
Just updating to reflect results not shown in initial post. Interesting. Updates are underlined.

NCAA Division I: AP Top 25

1. Connecticut (67) 22-1 1,795 1
Last Week: Def. Louisville 68-51 (2/2), Def. Michigan 69-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Syracuse 63-49 (2/11), Def. Seton Hall 62-54 (2/14)

2. Oklahoma (3) 23-1 1,710 2
Last Week: Def. Texas A&M 77-71 (2/4), Def. Colorado 77-72 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Baylor 78-63 (2/11), Def. Texas Tech 95-74 (2/14)

3. North Carolina (2) 21-2 1,672 3
Last Week: Def. Maryland 108-91 (2/3), Def. Virginia 76-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Duke 101-87 (2/11), Def. Miami 69-65 (2/15)

4. Pittsburgh 21-2 1,583 6
Last Week: Def. Robert Morris 92-72 (2/2), Def. DePaul 92-69 (2/7)
This Week: Def. West Virginia 70-59 (2/9), Def. Cincinnati 85-69 (2/14)

5. Louisville 18-4 1,423 5
Last Week: Lost to Connecticut 68-51 (2/2), Def. St. John's 60-47 (2/8)
This Week: Lost to Notre Dame 90-57 (2/12), Def. DePaul 99-54 (2/15)

6. Duke 20-3 1,350 4
Last Week: Lost to Clemson 74-47 (2/4), Def. Miami (FL) 78-75 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to North Carolina 101-87 (2/11), Lost at Boston College 80-74 (2/15)

7. Wake Forest 18-3 1,242 7
Last Week: Lost to Miami (FL) 79-52 (2/4), Def. Boston College 93-76 (2/8)
This Week: Lost to North Carolina State 82-76 (2/11), Def. Florida State 86-63 (2/14)

8. Memphis 20-3 1,237 14
Last Week: Def. Southern Methodist 79-66 (2/4), Def. Gonzaga 68-50 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Tulsa 63-37 (2/11), Def. Southern Miss 72-47 (2/14)

9. Michigan State 19-4 1,214 13
Last Week: Def. Minnesota 76-47 (2/4), Def. Indiana 75-47 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Michigan 54-42 (2/10)

10. Marquette 20-3 1,137 8
Last Week: Def. DePaul 76-61 (2/3), Lost to South Florida 57-56 (2/6)
This Week: Lost to Villanova 102-84 (2/10), Def. St. John's 73-59 (2/14)

11. UCLA 19-4 1,131 15
Last Week: Def. USC 76-60 (2/4), Def. Notre Dame 89-63 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Arizona State 74-67 (2/12), Lost to Arizona 84-72 (2/14)

12. Clemson 19-3 1,097 10
Last Week: Def. Duke 74-47 (2/4), Lost to Florida State 65-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Boston College 87-77 (2/10), Lost at Virginia 85-81 OT (2/15)

13. Villanova 19-4 989 17
Last Week: Def. Providence 94-91 (2/4), Def. Syracuse 102-85 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Marquette 102-84 (2/10), Lost to West Virginia 93-72 (2/13)

14. Xavier 20-3 893 9
Last Week: Def. Temple 83-74 (2/5), Lost to Duquesne 72-68 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Dayton 71-58 (2/11), Def. Fordham 88-53 (2/14)

15. Butler 21-2 762 11
Last Week: Lost to Green Bay 75-66 (2/2), Def. Detroit 66-61 (2/5), Def. Wright State 69-51 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Illinois-Chicago 80-61 (2/13), Lost to Loyola (IL) 71-67 (2/15)[/b][/i]

16. Kansas 19-4 751 21
Last Week: Def. Baylor 75-65 (2/2), Def. Oklahoma State 78-67 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Missouri 62-60 (2/9), Def. Kansas State 85-74 (2/14)

17. Missouri 20-4 395 NR
Last Week: Def. Texas 69-65 (2/4), Def. Iowa State 82-68 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Kansas 62-60 (2/9), Def. Nebraska 70-47 (2/14)

18. Arizona State 18-5 389 24
Last Week: Def. Oregon 66-57 (2/5), Def. Oregon State 49-38 (2/7)
This Week: Def. UCLA 74-67 (2/12), Def. USC 65-53 (2/15)

19. Gonzaga 17-5 361 18
Last Week: Def. Portland 93-78 (2/5), Lost to Memphis 68-50 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Saint Mary's 72-70 (2/12), Def. San Francisco 78-73 (2/14)

20. Purdue 17-6 353 12
Last Week: Lost to Ohio State 80-72 (2/3), Lost to Illinois 66-48 (2/8)
This Week: Def. Penn State 61-47 (2/11), Def. Iowa 49-45 (2/14)

21. Utah State 23-1 317 25
Last Week: Def. New Mexico State 78-59 (2/5), Def. Louisiana Tech 60-52 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Idaho 62-53 (2/12), Lost at Boise State 66-56 (2/14)

22. Illinois 19-5 303 23
Last Week: Lost to Wisconsin 63-50 (2/5), Def. Purdue 66-48 (2/8)
This Week: Def. Northwestern 60-59 (2/12), Def. Indiana 65-52 (2/15)

23. Syracuse 18-6 280 20
Last Week: Def. West Virginia 74-61 (2/4), Lost to Villanova 102-85 (2/7)
This Week: Lost to Connecticut 63-49 (2/11), Def. Georgetown 98-94 (2/14)

24. Ohio State 17-5 216 NR
Last Week: Def. Purdue 80-72 (2/3), Def. Minnesota 64-58 (2/7)
This Week: Lost at Wisconsin 55-50 (2/14)

25. Florida State 18-5 182 NR
Last Week: Def. Georgia Tech 62-58 (2/5), Def. Clemson 65-61 (2/7)
This Week: Def. Virginia 68-57 (2/10), Lost to Wake Forest 86-63 (2/14)

Others Receiving Votes
LSU 167, Washington 135, Texas 106, Florida 66, Minnesota 43, Dayton 31, California 16, Kansas State 8, West Virginia 8, South Carolina 7, Davidson 7, Miami (FL) 7, Utah 4, Arizona 4, San Diego State 2, Siena 2, Northeastern 2, Robert Morris 1, Boston College 1, Green Bay 1.

Dropped From Rankings
Texas 16, Minnesota 19, Washington 22.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: Chili on February 16, 2009, 08:57:26 AM

i dont think they will be rated anything but i am pretty sure they will be ranked. :-*

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 16, 2009, 09:03:03 AM

looking at the updated stats ...

5,6 (twice), 7, 10 (MU), 11 (twice), 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 21, 23, 24, 25 all lost.

14 of the top 25 lost this past week. No way we fall more than 2 spots. Otherwise, everyone has to fall a like amount or more.

I predict 11th, would not be surprised if we are unchanged at 10. How much are we going to get dinged because we lost at 'nova?

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: HomeCourtAdvantage on February 16, 2009, 11:40:10 AM

The correct answer is #11 -

Tied actually with Arizona State.

   1.   Connecticut (30)   24-1   774   1
   2.   Oklahoma (1)    25-1   739   2
   3.   North Carolina   23-2   711   3
   4.   Pittsburgh   23-2   689   4
   5.   Michigan State   20-4   634   9
   6.   Memphis   22-3   618   10
   7.   Louisville   19-5   508   7
   8.    Wake Forest   19-4   489   8
   9.   Duke    20-5   468   5
   10.   Missouri   22-4   429   19
   11. (tie)   Marquette   21-4   409   12
   11. (tie)   Arizona State   20-5   409   18
   13.   Clemson   20-4   393   11
   14.   Villanova   20-5   377   13
   15.   UCLA   19-6   324   6
   16.   Illinois   21-5   294   20
   17.   Xavier   21-4   278   14
   18.   Kansas   20-5   268   16
   19.   Washington   19-6   224   24
   20.   Gonzaga   19-5   191   21
   21.   Purdue   19-6   176   23
   22.   Butler   22-3   162   15
   23.   Utah State   24-2   121   17
   24.   LSU   21-4   114   NR
   25.   Syracuse   19-7   74   22

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: AlumKCof93 on February 16, 2009, 11:48:10 AM

I can't believe Nova didn't get ahead of Clemson - who lost to Virginia of all teams. It seems like the ACC didn't get penalized too much for their bad losses this week. Can't be too upset with Missouri passing us - they've been playing really well. I also can't imagine us losing too much ground should we lost to Pitt Uconn or Lville in coming weeks.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: willie warrior on February 16, 2009, 12:35:20 PM

we lose to those 3 and we will drop out of the top 25.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: Skatastrophy on February 16, 2009, 12:54:56 PM

Quote from: willie warrior on February 16, 2009, 12:35:20 PM
we lose to those 3 and we will drop out of the top 25.

So in 2 weeks we lose to 2 teams and we drop a total of 3 spots (8th to 11th), but your contention is that if we lose to 3 teams that are significantly better in the same 2 weeks time span that MU will drop more than 14 places? You're off your rocker.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: willie warrior on February 16, 2009, 01:30:01 PM

You are missing the point. If we lose to all 3 teams, we drop that far because we do not get respect from the pollsters. As I recall--we lost to dayton and Tennessee and dropped from 15 to about 27 earlier in the year.

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: Big East Warriors on February 16, 2009, 01:47:58 PM

Quote from: HomeCourtAdvantage on February 16, 2009, 11:40:10 AM
The correct answer is #11 -

Tied actually with Arizona State.

   1.   Connecticut (30)   24-1   774   1
   2.   Oklahoma (1)    25-1   739   2
   3.   North Carolina   23-2   711   3
   4.   Pittsburgh   23-2   689   4
   5.   Michigan State   20-4   634   9
   6.   Memphis   22-3   618   10
   7.   Louisville   19-5   508   7
   8.    Wake Forest   19-4   489   8
   9.   Duke    20-5   468   5
   10.   Missouri   22-4   429   19
   11. (tie)   Marquette   21-4   409   12
   11. (tie)   Arizona State   20-5   409   18
   13.   Clemson   20-4   393   11
   14.   Villanova   20-5   377   13
   15.   UCLA   19-6   324   6
   16.   Illinois   21-5   294   20
   17.   Xavier   21-4   278   14
   18.   Kansas   20-5   268   16
   19.   Washington   19-6   224   24
   20.   Gonzaga   19-5   191   21
   21.   Purdue   19-6   176   23
   22.   Butler   22-3   162   15
   23.   Utah State   24-2   121   17
   24.   LSU   21-4   114   NR
   25.   Syracuse   19-7   74   22

Have to say i wasnt really expecting that. We usually get treated like a red-headed step child in the rankings..

Title: Re: Poll: What Will MU Be Rated Monday (Feb 16)
Post by: AlumKCof93 on February 16, 2009, 01:51:30 PM

We deserved to fall out of the rankings after our loss to Tennessee. We didn't play well and at that time, our only notable victory was at home to Wisconsin. Losing to teams as highly ranked as Uconn, Pitt or Louisville would not have the same impact, nor should it.

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