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Title: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2009, 08:29:19 AM
I am noticing a trend in Buzz' recruiting.   The recruits get a chance to commit, if they dither or waffle, he moves on.    Jamil Wilson and Riley each had their chance.   MU wooed them.   When they didn't commit in a timely fashion, Buzz moved on.   Hello, Mr. Clark.   You want to be here and work for Buzz, so welcome.   I think I like it, as you don't have the months long "will he or won't he" drama, ala Schumpert.   You are in or you are out.   If you're out, we will go get the next guy.   
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: lurch91 on February 05, 2009, 09:08:29 AM
It seems it all comes down to options.

Buzz is recruiting several different kids that have the same fit for MU and what Buzz wants to do.  If one isn't ready to make a decision on an offer, Buzz can easily move on to the next recruit that has the same skillset and ability. 

This is something I think Crean failed at.  When he didn't get his "big" recruit, he often ended up with last minute JUCO's that didn't fit a need.
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: NYWarrior on February 05, 2009, 09:13:21 AM
Buzz is a closer.  Crean is Levine

http://www.youtube.com/v/TROhlThs9qY&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1

Coffee is for closers.  So are big men.
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 05, 2009, 09:17:15 AM
I guess that explains why Crean drinks Diet Pepsi Coke.
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on February 05, 2009, 09:50:06 AM
Does that mean the DaShonte Riley experience is over?
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: tower912 on February 05, 2009, 09:57:52 AM
Unless there is a transfer of a big, I don't see how we can take him.   Unbalanced towards bigs if he comes.
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: downtown85 on February 05, 2009, 10:17:32 AM
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2009, 08:29:19 AM
I am noticing a trend in Buzz' recruiting.   The recruits get a chance to commit, if they dither or waffle, he moves on.    Jamil Wilson and Riley each had their chance.   MU wooed them.   When they didn't commit in a timely fashion, Buzz moved on.   Hello, Mr. Clark.   You want to be here and work for Buzz, so welcome.   I think I like it, as you don't have the months long "will he or won't he" drama, ala Schumpert.   You are in or you are out.   If you're out, we will go get the next guy.   

The exceptions was Michael Snaer. That was a similar beauty contest like Schumpert.   I guess you need to make exceptions with 5-star recruits. 
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: detroitwarrior on February 05, 2009, 03:31:02 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 05, 2009, 08:29:19 AM
I am noticing a trend in Buzz' recruiting.   The recruits get a chance to commit, if they dither or waffle, he moves on.    Jamil Wilson and Riley each had their chance.   MU wooed them.   When they didn't commit in a timely fashion, Buzz moved on.   Hello, Mr. Clark.   You want to be here and work for Buzz, so welcome.   I think I like it, as you don't have the months long "will he or won't he" drama, ala Schumpert.   You are in or you are out.   If you're out, we will go get the next guy.   

I agree with your observations on Buzz's style but am not sure that it necessarily applies to the Riley situation. It may. His initial visit did not take place because of weather and then the rescheduled Depaul visit apparently was again put off because the team was leaving right after the game to head to South Bend. Since he is in the midst of a basketball season himself, his only available weekend for a visit coming up is the St. Johns game. It does seem odd on the one hand that whomever is setting up the visits on both ends has managed to give erroneous information about the possible Georgetown visit which might suggest that Buzz was cooling on him anyway and closing on Clark. Or, it could be just honest snafus in getting an official visit scheduled. I suspect we will know soon either way.
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 05, 2009, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: lurch91 on February 05, 2009, 09:08:29 AM
It seems it all comes down to options.

Buzz is recruiting several different kids that have the same fit for MU and what Buzz wants to do.  If one isn't ready to make a decision on an offer, Buzz can easily move on to the next recruit that has the same skillset and ability. 

This is something I think Crean failed at.  When he didn't get his "big" recruit, he often ended up with last minute JUCO's that didn't fit a need.

Agreed. Crean went hard for a couple of players...then settled for some other leftovers (see: Blackledge).
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: ErickJD08 on February 06, 2009, 12:26:38 AM
Lets wait to see if the players are any good before we start claiming how great he is.  I don't care what anyone on this board says, I want the 5 star/ 4 star recruits and I don't see them for 2010.  BTW... I love quality bigs as much as the next basketball fan but who is going to back up Junior in 2010?
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: detroitwarrior on February 06, 2009, 01:05:43 AM
Buzz and the coaching staff are on record as stating that they want to have 12 High Major players on the roster and in an interview I saw recently with Aki Collins, he stated that the recruiting mission for 2010 and 2011 was to hit "home runs", not "singles" on recruits. Obviously, with Bowen and Clark, the coaching staff feel they have hit home runs by their definition. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on February 06, 2009, 08:01:50 AM
Quote from: ErickJD08 on February 06, 2009, 12:26:38 AM
Lets wait to see if the players are any good before we start claiming how great he is.  I don't care what anyone on this board says, I want the 5 star/ 4 star recruits and I don't see them for 2010.  BTW... I love quality bigs as much as the next basketball fan but who is going to back up Junior in 2010?

that woul be reece just like this year
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: muball on February 06, 2009, 09:05:46 AM
On paper and ranking wise we have a highly ranked group coming in next year, Bowen is an early pickup for 2010 and did not play AAU his ranking will move up, Clark is considered a highly ranked JC, so those are two solid additions after a solid 2009 class.  Concerns over a guard will be covered just give them time.
Title: Re: Buzz' recruiting style
Post by: jmayer1 on February 06, 2009, 10:18:37 AM
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on February 06, 2009, 08:01:50 AM
that woul be reece just like this year

I think he's talking about the 2010-2011 season.  MU will have Junior as the only true pg.  Buycks, Butler, and Bowen are the other true guards on the roster along with a few swingmen.  I would think MU has to be looking at getting another pg to backup JC.
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