Could we actually successfully make UConn game a gold out. They gave out shirts at G-town but not every student put them on. It would look so cool and intimidating if EVERYONE, students and non-students wore gold for the UConn game? What are the chances of this? (obvisouly MU would have to promote or endorse this so word gets out, but now since its sold out lets make it a gold out)
I highly doubt MUScoop.com would be able to get this going.
You need a highly funded alum to buy the shirts and give one to every person who enters. Or you need MU to do it.
MUScoop probably wouldn't accomplish any of this unless a PR rep from the athletic department saw this and thought it to be a great idea...
See this thread
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=11972.0
IMO, Crean tried this a few times, a couple "gold out"s and a "baby blue out". Every time it was only marginally successful, perhaps increasing the gold by 25%. Still left the place at 60-75% gold/baby blue.
Pretty disappointing if you ask me. Seems to work well for other schools - why doesn't it work at Marquette? Answer that question, and perhaps someday we'll get a true "gold out" at every home game.
I don't know .. The fact that UConn may be #1 coming in to a sold out BC .. there's something really special about that game. If MU used their marketing power, unleashed their email list, and coupled that with some personal (recorded) robocalls from someone like McNeal?
That might just have a chance.
My son goes to Univ of Maryland. They had a "black-out" night sponsored by local bank and every seat had a black tee shirt. Nice looking shirt with Maryland "black-out" logo on front and name of bank on the back. Maybe for one game, some sponsor can come through like this, especially for a big, nationally televised game.
Let's assume free gold t-shirts will not be handed out at the game.
Why let that stop a gold out?
Is it reasonable to think that 90% of the lower bowl fans own a MU gold shirt, top or vest?
Is it reasonable to think that 70% of the upper deck attendees own a MU gold shirt, top or vest? At least a gold shirt, even if it is not MU affiliated?
For this big of a game let's get the word out to wear gold. And if you don't have a gold shirt yet, get online or go to the MU spirit shop!
It has been tired in the past. It is very hard to do. You cannot place a shirt on every seat unless it's an XL. If you want to hand out shirts, places need to be staffed like the bobblehead giveaways in the BC. Those AMU workers cost money and are hard to come by at big games. Not too mention I'm sure there's not too many sponsors looking to fork over the money to pay for the shirts.
Get over it.
Yeah, very doubtful 19000 gold shirts could be purchased, delivered, etc, for the game.
But one can assume almost everyone has a gold piece of clothing in their closets .. they just need the right motivation to wear it.
Quote from: nyg on February 04, 2009, 06:48:31 PM
My son goes to Univ of Maryland. They had a "black-out" night sponsored by local bank and every seat had a black tee shirt. Nice looking shirt with Maryland "black-out" logo on front and name of bank on the back. Maybe for one game, some sponsor can come through like this, especially for a big, nationally televised game.
Wasn't Citibank was it? Our tax dollars hard at work ;D
I agree though, it would take a business to sponsor
1) It is difficult to get 4 people to agree on something, to get 19,000+ to agree is darn near impossible.
2) If someone sponsored the shirts, it would probably cost about $250,000 - tough economy for that to happen.
That said, I will be there with my gold MU sweathirt on, as always. And I think it would be good to encourage people to wear gold, adn the university could email their contacts, put a few posters around, put it on the website. Why not - that is inexpensive.
i agree that it is tough for someone to pay for this but almost everyone that support MU bball has to have some kind of gold top whether it be t-shirt, sweater, or vest. and i think it is a good idea and would look so cool if we did this agasint UCONN
We sit in the lower bowl and most of the people around us do not wear gold. I wear gold every game. I usually make my husband, who is not an alum (but a parent of an alum) wear gold, too.
I'm not sure what it is with the 40 & over crowd that precludes them from wearing a gold shirt. I must have at least 30 gold shirts we got as freebies.
I see other teams with their student section in the tie-dye shirts and it looks awesome in HD. I wish our ticket holders would step up to the plate and break out their gold shirts.
In our alum section, we are the only few who ever wear gold for BE games. There is more Badger Red--why would you wear red to a MU game if you are a season ticket holder? I just don't get it.
But, I half joked about this before, our colors are blue and gold. If you follow the laws of supply and demand, the Spirit Shop offers and sells more blue. Look on line--it is like a ratio of 8:1--except short sleeve t-shirts or golf wear. Alums come from work or a semi-formal function, or church, it is the winter, you have business associates, etc... a short sleeve t-shirt doesn't make it. Further, if you have to drop some cash, you want something stylish you can wear more often. And, if the choices are 8:1 blue, guess what people buy?
Also, if we are on the road where our jerseys are blue, you wear blue to support our team.
Pardner is right.
the spirit shop lacks quality gold wear.
I just went to buy a birthday gift for my friend (age 52) and she wanted gold. It was very difficult to find anything long sleeved and gold under $50 especially for women. I know I am not interested in wearing a short sleeved t shirt in the dead of winter.
I'm guessing that this never works because there's some resentment among alumni regarding the "Golden" Eagles (not to mention the "Gold"), that prevents them from wearing gold on game day. That said, for pre- and post-game purposes, navy just looks better. Why not let the students stay in gold and have the rest of the arena go navy?
selloutuconn.com worked so well to get everyone in the place, whoever has the ability should create the webpage "goldoutuconn.com" might help out a little bit...
Forget the sponsorship, not happening in this economy.
However, to potentially increase the % of gold shirts in the arena, how about having the Spirit Shop set up a tent in front of the BC and sell discounted shirts? Gold XL with just Marquette on it (not too offensive, even for us crabby old Warriors) for $5? For a reasonable price, I'm sure some percentage of non-gold wearing fans would pick one up on their way into the arena.
Quote from: IAmMarquette on February 04, 2009, 11:08:52 PM
I'm guessing that this never works because there's some resentment among alumni regarding the "Golden" Eagles (not to mention the "Gold"), that prevents them from wearing gold on game day. That said, for pre- and post-game purposes, navy just looks better. Why not let the students stay in gold and have the rest of the arena go navy?
I don't necessarily agree with resentment thing, but I think you and a couple others are on to something with the blue...
Quote from: marqptm on February 04, 2009, 09:26:15 PM
the spirit shop lacks quality gold wear.
As does the rest of the world. Its not exactly easy to walk into your local Macy's or Banana Republic and pull a gold shirt off the rack. Generally speaking, many people go out for dinner before the game or whatever, and may not feel that great about wearing some crappy gold T-shirt. Push the blue instead, and it
might work out better.
$2.34/blank gold shirt: http://www.shirtsupplier.com/prod.cfm?productid=5 (http://www.shirtsupplier.com/prod.cfm?productid=5)
Probably cheaper places, that was just the first place I looked.
I think they should not buy 19,000 shirts .. just buy 5,000, and grab 100 students, tell them to filter through each section, finding non-gold people, give them a shirt, and wait there while they put it on. :-*
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 05, 2009, 07:53:48 AM
I think they should not buy 19,000 shirts .. just buy 5,000, and grab 100 students, tell them to filter through each section, finding non-gold people, give them a shirt, and wait there while they put it on. :-*
+1 - make 'em put it on!
Quote from: only a warrior on February 05, 2009, 07:13:45 AM
Forget the sponsorship, not happening in this economy.
However, to potentially increase the % of gold shirts in the arena, how about having the Spirit Shop set up a tent in front of the BC and sell discounted shirts? Gold XL with just Marquette on it (not too offensive, even for us crabby old Warriors) for $5? For a reasonable price, I'm sure some percentage of non-gold wearing fans would pick one up on their way into the arena.
Do you really think people walk through the Union on their way to the game?
Quote from: marqptm on February 05, 2009, 08:17:43 AM
Do you really think people walk through the Union on their way to the game?
Which is why he suggested they set up a tent in front of the Bradley Center.
Quote from: MU_B2002 on February 05, 2009, 08:19:45 AM
Which is why he suggested they set up a tent in front of the Bradley Center.
You sir, are correct.
Quote from: marqptm on February 05, 2009, 08:22:58 AM
You sir, are correct.
You sir, need to read the posts before typing!! ::)
Quote from: only a warrior on February 05, 2009, 08:31:33 AM
You sir, need to read the posts before typing!! ::)
Just for clarification, I still think it won't increase gold by more than 3%.
Xavier left notes on seats at a recent game advising people to wear either blue or white (by section) for an upcoming game. In theory, the stadium will be filled with alternating blue and white sections. Would be cool if they can pull that off.
Why MU can't seem to pull off a simple "gold out" is a mystery. The whole concept, like the wave, has become tiresome sort of, but I have to admit a completely gold BC would look really cool.
Quote from: Muhoops85 on February 04, 2009, 09:07:31 PM
We sit in the lower bowl and most of the people around us do not wear gold. I wear gold every game. I usually make my husband, who is not an alum (but a parent of an alum) wear gold, too.
I'm not sure what it is with the 40 & over crowd that precludes them from wearing a gold shirt. I must have at least 30 gold shirts we got as freebies.
I see other teams with their student section in the tie-dye shirts and it looks awesome in HD. I wish our ticket holders would step up to the plate and break out their gold shirts.
While I'm not 40 (yet) I'll attempt to give my answer to this question. This is going to offend a lot of you, but please keep in mind I mean no disrespect.
One aspect of attending Marquette which I, (and a lot fo other students), took pride in is that we were the anti-ND, anti-UW-Madison, anti-UI-Champaign, etc. Those schools were in beautiful locales in the middle of nowhere; we all went to school in the ghetto. Those schools had a golden dome or fancy building; our campus was a trash-filled alley. I love MU and this is by no means an insult. Quite contrary, we took pride being from the 'wrong side of the tracks' if you will.
While we have school spirit, wearing the exact same thing as everyone else goes against how a lot of us feel. ND, Duke and other schools love to do this, with everyone wearing the same shirt and all the fans doing their pansy fist-pump cheers at the exact same time. We'd rather cheer loudly when we feel like it, on our own terms. And we want to wear whatever we feel like.
I know it's very difficult to explain, but until the alumni who attend MU games are comprised solely of graudates from the late 90's on, I don't think this "Gold-out" thing is going to catch on. At least not fully.
A gold out will never work. You could put three gold shirts on every chair of the Bradley Center and half the arena wouldn't put either of the three on.
I like the idea of a gold-out, but also do not think that it would work at Marquette. I don't think we need one though either, I think we have great fans, and this year it seems like the non-students are getting into it more. Heck at least our students don't have to start a cheer to get the rest of the fans to stand up like they do down in South Bend.
as for the BLUE out, it sounds pretty stupid since we really aren't the BLUED EAGLES.
wonder if it would work if they put "Warriors" on the shirt :)
Quote from: Pepperoni_Cannoli on February 05, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
While I'm not 40 (yet) I'll attempt to give my answer to this question. This is going to offend a lot of you, but please keep in mind I mean no disrespect.
One aspect of attending Marquette which I, (and a lot fo other students), took pride in is that we were the anti-ND, anti-UW-Madison, anti-UI-Champaign, etc. Those schools were in beautiful locales in the middle of nowhere; we all went to school in the ghetto. Those schools had a golden dome or fancy building; our campus was a trash-filled alley. I love MU and this is by no means an insult. Quite contrary, we took pride being from the 'wrong side of the tracks' if you will.
While we have school spirit, wearing the exact same thing as everyone else goes against how a lot of us feel. ND, Duke and other schools love to do this, with everyone wearing the same shirt and all the fans doing their pansy fist-pump cheers at the exact same time. We'd rather cheer loudly when we feel like it, on our own terms. And we want to wear whatever we feel like.
I know it's very difficult to explain, but until the alumni who attend MU games are comprised solely of graudates from the late 90's on, I don't think this "Gold-out" thing is going to catch on. At least not fully.
+1
Quote from: marqptm on February 04, 2009, 08:01:16 PM
Not too mention I'm sure there's not too many sponsors looking to fork over the money to pay for the shirts.
Quick, someone call converse!
Though .. I can look down my lower-bowl corner and see/hear 1 of every 50 people making noise, clapping, anything. Most are just sitting quietly.
Always made me wonder .. what if .. I know cheerleaders are, duh, supposed to cheer, but people look upon them as entertainment, not .. leaders of cheers.
What if you took a couple students .. spread them around the lower bowl, 3-4 in each aisle. And had them yelling at the crowd, leading some cheer. Clearly, you couldn't do that for the whole game .. but it would be an interesting experience.
You know .. there's always that one guy in some section who stands up FIRST, when the crowd gets into it. Then another guy stands up. Then 10 more, and 20 more, and suddenly, the whole section is standing, making noise.
It all hinges on that one guy, standing up. That's my theory. Plant more of those "one guys" who are pointing at people, saying you, you right there sitting on your hands. GET UP.
The UConn game is going to need maximum crowd noise. A gold-out is cool, but max noise is far more helpful.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 05, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Though .. I can look down my lower-bowl corner and see/hear 1 of every 50 people making noise, clapping, anything. Most are just sitting quietly.
Always made me wonder .. what if .. I know cheerleaders are, duh, supposed to cheer, but people look upon them as entertainment, not .. leaders of cheers.
What if you took a couple students .. spread them around the lower bowl, 3-4 in each aisle. And had them yelling at the crowd, leading some cheer. Clearly, you couldn't do that for the whole game .. but it would be an interesting experience.
You know .. there's always that one guy in some section who stands up FIRST, when the crowd gets into it. Then another guy stands up. Then 10 more, and 20 more, and suddenly, the whole section is standing, making noise.
It all hinges on that one guy, standing up. That's my theory. Plant more of those "one guys" who are pointing at people, saying you, you right there sitting on your hands. GET UP.
The UConn game is going to need maximum crowd noise. A gold-out is cool, but max noise is far more helpful.
FREEWAY!
If your going about this one guy theory, then you should just ahve the first row of every section stand up. then, like the one guy who stands, everyone behind them will have to stand (to see) and this will be a domino effect- kind of like a reverse avalanche.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 05, 2009, 07:53:17 AM
I don't necessarily agree with resentment thing, but I think you and a couple others are on to something with the blue...
As does the rest of the world. Its not exactly easy to walk into your local Macy's or Banana Republic and pull a gold shirt off the rack. Generally speaking, many people go out for dinner before the game or whatever, and may not feel that great about wearing some crappy gold T-shirt. Push the blue instead, and it might work out better.
If you think you look odd wearing a gold shirt/sweater/hat in Milwaukee on Marquette game day, then you have serious problems with insecurity. You're probably the same kind of guy who doesn't wear a hat in Milwaukee on a 0 degree day because you don't want to mess your hair up. Sally.
As for the resentment, if you don't wear Gold because of the Golden Eagles then you are a clown and you should dress in a clown suit complete with make-up, a red nose, and a plastic flower that squirts water. Pure and simple. I don't know anyone who makes the connection between Gold and Golden Eagles. Everyone I know makes the connection to Gold as in our colors of "Blue and Gold", the "Blue and Gold Fund", etc.
As for the "Gold Out", that whole concept is getting kind of played out. I'd rather the BC be loud and intimidating than be a uniform color.
Quote from: Pepperoni_Cannoli on February 05, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
While I'm not 40 (yet) I'll attempt to give my answer to this question. This is going to offend a lot of you, but please keep in mind I mean no disrespect.
One aspect of attending Marquette which I, (and a lot fo other students), took pride in is that we were the anti-ND, anti-UW-Madison, anti-UI-Champaign, etc. Those schools were in beautiful locales in the middle of nowhere; we all went to school in the ghetto. Those schools had a golden dome or fancy building; our campus was a trash-filled alley. I love MU and this is by no means an insult. Quite contrary, we took pride being from the 'wrong side of the tracks' if you will.
While we have school spirit, wearing the exact same thing as everyone else goes against how a lot of us feel. ND, Duke and other schools love to do this, with everyone wearing the same shirt and all the fans doing their pansy fist-pump cheers at the exact same time. We'd rather cheer loudly when we feel like it, on our own terms. And we want to wear whatever we feel like.
I know it's very difficult to explain, but until the alumni who attend MU games are comprised solely of graudates from the late 90's on, I don't think this "Gold-out" thing is going to catch on. At least not fully.
+2
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 05, 2009, 12:45:02 PM
As for the "Gold Out", that whole concept is getting kind of played out. I'd rather the BC be loud and intimidating than be a uniform color.
No argument there. The Georgetown game was one of the best atmosphere's I can remember sans UConn and Pitt two years ago. We definatley need a loud crowd on that Wed night but it would be even more intimidating if 19,000 people were all wearing gold and screaming/ cheering We Are ...Marquette during the game. As for actually making a gold out happen, I guess it would be too hard for Marquette but that won't stop me from wearing Gold to every home game
Quote from: mu35577 on February 05, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
No argument there. The Georgetown game was one of the best atmosphere's I can remember sans UConn and Pitt two years ago. We definatley need a loud crowd on that Wed night but it would be even more intimidating if 19,000 people were all wearing gold and screaming/ cheering We Are ...Marquette during the game. As for actually making a gold out happen, I guess it would be too hard for Marquette but that won't stop me from wearing Gold to every home game
Do you really think AJ Price is going to be scared of what people are wearing?
A Gold Out is all for show, that's it.
Quote from: Muhoops85 on February 04, 2009, 09:07:31 PM
I'm not sure what it is with the 40 & over crowd that precludes them from wearing a gold shirt. I must have at least 30 gold shirts we got as freebies.
It's not the over 40 crowd specifically, it's more the people that were at MU during a certain era, specifically the 1970s and 1980s.
A lot of the much older alums(think 1950s and 1960s) have no problem with the gold and wear it all the time. In fact I've seen an alum from 1940s yell at a dozen or so alums from the 1980s about how they were a disgrace for refusing to wear gold.
Quote from: bma725 on February 05, 2009, 01:45:42 PM
It's not the over 40 crowd specifically, it's more the people that were at MU during a certain era, specifically the 1970s and 1980s.
I guess I'm just really surprised that 1970s grads wouldn't wear gold after attending MU during the basketball golden era. And no pun intended, i swear.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 05, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Though .. I can look down my lower-bowl corner and see/hear 1 of every 50 people making noise, clapping, anything. Most are just sitting quietly.
Always made me wonder .. what if .. I know cheerleaders are, duh, supposed to cheer, but people look upon them as entertainment, not .. leaders of cheers.
What if you took a couple students .. spread them around the lower bowl, 3-4 in each aisle. And had them yelling at the crowd, leading some cheer. Clearly, you couldn't do that for the whole game .. but it would be an interesting experience.
You know .. there's always that one guy in some section who stands up FIRST, when the crowd gets into it. Then another guy stands up. Then 10 more, and 20 more, and suddenly, the whole section is standing, making noise.
It all hinges on that one guy, standing up. That's my theory. Plant more of those "one guys" who are pointing at people, saying you, you right there sitting on your hands. GET UP.
The UConn game is going to need maximum crowd noise. A gold-out is cool, but max noise is far more helpful.
+1
Nothing gives me chills like a huge defensive play and fast break bucket followed by watching the alums rise in a wave to create a completely raucous Bradley Center.
The only times I've seen it happen consistently in my year and a half in the student section were both Georgetown games and Wisconsin this year. Unfortunately, I was forced to watch the ND game last year from out of town, but I'd imagine it was similar. Louisville probably would have been the same if we didn't get killed by 30. I expect a similar atmosphere for UConn.
Quote from: Pepperoni_Cannoli on February 05, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
While I'm not 40 (yet) I'll attempt to give my answer to this question. This is going to offend a lot of you, but please keep in mind I mean no disrespect.
One aspect of attending Marquette which I, (and a lot fo other students), took pride in is that we were the anti-ND, anti-UW-Madison, anti-UI-Champaign, etc. Those schools were in beautiful locales in the middle of nowhere; we all went to school in the ghetto. Those schools had a golden dome or fancy building; our campus was a trash-filled alley. I love MU and this is by no means an insult. Quite contrary, we took pride being from the 'wrong side of the tracks' if you will.
While we have school spirit, wearing the exact same thing as everyone else goes against how a lot of us feel. ND, Duke and other schools love to do this, with everyone wearing the same shirt and all the fans doing their pansy fist-pump cheers at the exact same time. We'd rather cheer loudly when we feel like it, on our own terms. And we want to wear whatever we feel like.
I know it's very difficult to explain, but until the alumni who attend MU games are comprised solely of graudates from the late 90's on, I don't think this "Gold-out" thing is going to catch on. At least not fully.
I can understand the whole rebel feeling of MU. I get it, really.
However, to be accurate, I'm not sure that wearing a button down shirt and a fresh pair of chinos is rebellious either.
I'm not pointing you out specifically, but there are surely some alums that don't want to "sell out" to the university and wear gold, so they wear their own "casual attire", which probably isn't that casual.
Quote from: 2002mualum on February 05, 2009, 02:29:10 PM
I can understand the whole rebel feeling of MU. I get it, really.
However, to be accurate, I'm not sure that wearing a button down shirt and a fresh pair of chinos is rebellious either.
I'm not pointing you out specifically, but there are surely some alums that don't want to "sell out" to the university and wear gold, so they wear their own "casual attire", which probably isn't that casual.
from a stand point of a kid who was chided for choosing MU over UW 8 years ago I can tell you that most of the people that I knew did not think there was anything rebellious about attending a private school in Milwaukee.
I was promised that I would be going to school with snobs... luckily their promise didn't hold up... for the most part.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 05, 2009, 03:30:17 PM
from a stand point of a kid who was chided for choosing MU over UW 8 years ago I can tell you that most of the people that I knew did not think there was anything rebellious about attending a private school in Milwaukee.
I was promised that I would be going to school with snobs... luckily their promise didn't hold up... for the most part.
Marquette is, at its core, a very conservative place. I don't mean conservative necessarily in a political sense (though in many respects that is true) but in a cultural sense. Rebellion or anti-establishment or countercultural attitudes are not very prevalent at MU. Which isn't to say they don't exist, but Marquette students/alumni are far from "rebels."
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 05, 2009, 03:44:08 PM
Marquette is, at its core, a very conservative place. I don't mean conservative necessarily in a political sense (though in many respects that is true) but in a cultural sense. Rebellion or anti-establishment or countercultural attitudes are not very prevalent at MU. Which isn't to say they don't exist, but Marquette students/alumni are far from "rebels."
Agreed, I mean, going to MU isn't like joining a biker gang.
However, compared to it's relative peer group of DePaul, Notre Dame, SLU, Loyola, BC, etc., MU is a certainly little rougher around the edges, and I think a lot of people embrace that (see any of the "back in my day" threads).
With this said, I still don't know that refusing to wear a gold t-shirt is really a good representation of this "rough around the edges" or "we aren't like other schools" attitude.
Wear a sweater or sweatshirt to the game... wear a gold shirt underneath. Bam. Problem solved.
Quote from: 2002mualum on February 05, 2009, 03:59:20 PM
Agreed, I mean, going to MU isn't like joining a biker gang.
Careful . . . my husband and I each have our own Harley so I guess that makes us a "biker" gang.
Quote from: Muhoops85 on February 05, 2009, 04:04:53 PM
Careful . . . my husband and I each have our own Harley so I guess that makes us a "biker" gang.
I hope you aren't seriously offended.
I'm using the term to represent a group that is often seen as anti-establishment and/or rebellious.
Several members of my family own HD's.
Sorry, I should have used the teal font. :D
Quote from: Muhoops85 on February 05, 2009, 04:14:40 PM
Sorry, I should have used the teal font. :D
Understood.
Anyways, back to being rebels and refusing to wear gold at the games.
Quote from: Pepperoni_Cannoli on February 05, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
While I'm not 40 (yet) I'll attempt to give my answer to this question. This is going to offend a lot of you, but please keep in mind I mean no disrespect.
One aspect of attending Marquette which I, (and a lot fo other students), took pride in is that we were the anti-ND, anti-UW-Madison, anti-UI-Champaign, etc. Those schools were in beautiful locales in the middle of nowhere; we all went to school in the ghetto. Those schools had a golden dome or fancy building; our campus was a trash-filled alley. I love MU and this is by no means an insult. Quite contrary, we took pride being from the 'wrong side of the tracks' if you will.
While we have school spirit, wearing the exact same thing as everyone else goes against how a lot of us feel. ND, Duke and other schools love to do this, with everyone wearing the same shirt and all the fans doing their pansy fist-pump cheers at the exact same time. We'd rather cheer loudly when we feel like it, on our own terms. And we want to wear whatever we feel like.
I know it's very difficult to explain, but until the alumni who attend MU games are comprised solely of graudates from the late 90's on, I don't think this "Gold-out" thing is going to catch on. At least not fully.
Sorry, I don't get it. No disrespect intended, but I don't think wearing a certain color shirt really makes you a sellout, and I don't think sitting on your hands during a game makes you a rebel. If that's how you derive your sense of identity from your time at Marquette, then no one can blame you, but I don't think that refusing to participate in special events at basketball games in order to make a point to other schools that we're not like them is really the way to set yourself apart. It's kind of lame actually.
I
do agree about deriving our identity as a university from the area we are in. A unique aspect of the Marquette experience is being part of a geographical/socioeconomic area of town that other universities can't relate to. We're surrounded by homelessness and poverty. It helps to motivate Marquette's commitment to being a service-centered community that genuinely benefits Milwaukee. I have always admired that students and administration alike see the importance of/participate in community work, and I think that this is the way that we should continue to show that we're different from the hick-snobs of ND or the bratty communists in Madison. Our school cares enough to better the community we're in. For example, I love the fact that every halloween Marquette lets lower income families bring their kids trick-or-treating in the res halls, or that students actively participate in Midnight/Noon Run to provide food for the homeless, or that Hunger Cleanup mobilizes a huge part of the community to work toward a hunger-free city. I can't see that happening in South Bend or Madison.
I don't think any of them cares what we do/wear at the games. I think the "gold-out" is a great way to show the team we support them and I see it as nothing more than harmless fun. Who cares about the other team or other schools? It would look cool to see it, and I hope that people actually end up wearing their gold. I'll be in mine.
Quote from: JSwarriors08 on February 05, 2009, 06:19:01 PM
I don't think any of them cares what we do/wear at the games. I think the "gold-out" is a great way to show the team we support them and I see it as nothing more than harmless fun. Who cares about the other team or other schools? It would look cool to see it, and I hope that people actually end up wearing their gold. I'll be in mine.
+1 Bingo.
How fired up do you think our team would be if they walked out into the BC and saw everyone in gold??? WOW. What a sight!
Too bad people are too stubborn to give it up for ONE GAME.
If there aren't any gold MU shirts, can't a Packer Gold/Yellow do?
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 05, 2009, 07:02:52 PM
If there aren't any gold MU shirts, can't a Packer Gold/Yellow do?
I wouldn't care if it was an MU or Packers gold shirt but if your going to any MU games and especially the UCOnn game, just wear a gold shirt
Discussing the gold out on this site does not really matter. The people that are active on message boards are the extreme 1% (it may be more like 5%). That percentage actively seeks to be more involved and make their voice heard. We are the passionate ones and the ones who do not have to be convinced to wear gold. I am willing to bet that 90+% of the posters on this board wear gold to every game. It is the non-active majority that needs to be convinced. Until marquette can figure out how to reach that majority a "gold out" will never happen.
Quote from: spartan3186 on February 05, 2009, 07:10:06 PM
Discussing the gold out on this site does not really matter. The people that are active on message boards are the extreme 1% (it may be more like 5%). That percentage actively seeks to be more involved and make their voice heard. We are the passionate ones and the ones who do not have to be convinced to wear gold. I am willing to bet that 90+% of the posters on this board wear gold to every game. It is the non-active majority that needs to be convinced. Until marquette can figure out how to reach that majority a "gold out" will never happen.
+1
well put. I guess it won't happen this year as the UConn game is coming up quickly but let's hope one day that MU can put this togther. The UConn game just seems like the perfect oppurtunity...
Let me just start out saying, the 60's and 70's were a different time. I am from the "In Between Generation"...now called the Obama Generation, that followed these Baby Boomers...and I had to follow them all through my life. I never associated with them, but I was always in their wake. They were/are rebels.
Bombs on campus (yes, at Marquette...finals were even cancelled), friends drafted off to war never to return, freedom marches to support the right to vote and use the same bathroom was the goal not to ever fathom that an African American could become President, complete rejection of authority whether it was membership in Scouts, non-respect/trust of authority (police or the school administration) after Kent State. Adoph Rupp refusing to recruit or recognize African American players. Assassinations. Equal rights for women. Michael Phelps doing a bong would make him a folk hero, not a tarnished star. And along came Al who recruited African Americans and made them shake Adolph Rupp's hand BEFORE the game....or who would thumb his nose at the NCAA because they wouldn't respect his African American players and put them in the region they deserved. Or, who was the first to tell his low income players to skip school and take the cash from the ABA...but made sure they came back to earn their degree.
Conform and wear gold? White wash the name Warriors and rename MU after a color whose only name to them means materialism? It isn't about Chinos. They left a lot of blood on the streets. Leave them be. The rest of us can wear gold (but I refuse to wear a sweater vest). We all have one thing in common: What MU basketball represents to each of us.
I've been reading for a long time but never posted before. My friends and I graduated in the mid 70's - we all wear gold sweatshirts to every game. For the life of me, I can't figure out what wearing or not wearing gold has to do with a desire to be rebels and non-conformists. I've never heard that before. I had no idea that as a graduate of the 70's I am supposed to not cheer and get excited along with everyone else. I thought it was all about what is best to show support for the team. The Allstate Arena looked great with all of the gold the other night - the student section looked awesome against Georgetown. Blue just doesn't cut it, IMO. So I hereby declare that it is my intention to show my desire to rebel against all of the rebels I went to school with (and apparently never actually met) and be non-conformist with them by continuing to wear gold to any game I attend. And just so all of you urban rebels know, I in fact grew up in the inner city of Chicago in an area that actually had riots when I was a kid.
New shirts on the MU Spirit Shop site, include this Gold Nike tee:
(http://shop.marquette.edu/v/vspfiles/photos/18729-2.jpg)
Check out the others! Looks like they restocked!
ALSO, looks like they've started to clearance out last year's Jersey # Gold Tees...for $8.95!
Quote from: Warriors4ever on February 05, 2009, 11:08:57 PM
So I hereby declare that it is my intention to show my desire to rebel against all of the rebels I went to school with (and apparently never actually met) and be non-conformist with them by continuing to wear gold to any game I attend.
A rebel amongst the rebels! Well said.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 05, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
New shirts on the MU Spirit Shop site, include this Gold Nike tee:
Ugh - seriously "Golden Eagle Pride"? I don't know a single person that would wear that shirt. Might as well wear a Red Badger shirt to the game. Well, maybe not, you can wear the GEP shirt, just turn it inside out :D
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 05, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
New shirts on the MU Spirit Shop site, include this Gold Nike tee:
(http://shop.marquette.edu/v/vspfiles/photos/18729-2.jpg)
Check out the others! Looks like they restocked!
ALSO, looks like they've started to clearance out last year's Jersey # Gold Tees...for $8.95!
Any gold shirts with warriors logos? perhaps that would help get the non-gold wearing folk to wear gold.
Quote from: downtown85 on February 06, 2009, 01:42:00 AM
Any gold shirts with warriors logos? perhaps that would help get the non-gold wearing folk to wear gold.
I've posted a link to this site quite a few times. Nonetheless, I'm sure the guy who owns the store would LOVE to get orders from 13,000 rabid MU fans :)
http://jerkass.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/Article/Index/article/WARRIORS-3186292
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 06, 2009, 01:46:39 AM
I've posted a link to this site quite a few times. Nonetheless, I'm sure the guy who owns the store would LOVE to get orders from 13,000 rabid MU fans :)
http://jerkass.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/Article/Index/article/WARRIORS-3186292
thanks, i'm gettin' one.
Quote from: downtown85 on February 06, 2009, 04:26:39 AM
thanks, i'm gettin' one.
Order 2 with the coupon code FEB19 and you get 14% off.
Quote from: JSwarriors08 on February 05, 2009, 06:19:01 PM
Sorry, I don't get it. No disrespect intended, but I don't think wearing a certain color shirt really makes you a sellout, and I don't think sitting on your hands during a game makes you a rebel. If that's how you derive your sense of identity from your time at Marquette, then no one can blame you, but I don't think that refusing to participate in special events at basketball games in order to make a point to other schools that we're not like them is really the way to set yourself apart. It's kind of lame actually.
I do agree about deriving our identity as a university from the area we are in. A unique aspect of the Marquette experience is being part of a geographical/socioeconomic area of town that other universities can't relate to. We're surrounded by homelessness and poverty. It helps to motivate Marquette's commitment to being a service-centered community that genuinely benefits Milwaukee. I have always admired that students and administration alike see the importance of/participate in community work, and I think that this is the way that we should continue to show that we're different from the hick-snobs of ND or the bratty communists in Madison. Our school cares enough to better the community we're in. For example, I love the fact that every halloween Marquette lets lower income families bring their kids trick-or-treating in the res halls, or that students actively participate in Midnight/Noon Run to provide food for the homeless, or that Hunger Cleanup mobilizes a huge part of the community to work toward a hunger-free city. I can't see that happening in South Bend or Madison.
I don't think any of them cares what we do/wear at the games. I think the "gold-out" is a great way to show the team we support them and I see it as nothing more than harmless fun. Who cares about the other team or other schools? It would look cool to see it, and I hope that people actually end up wearing their gold. I'll be in mine.
You're right, there are no community service groups at either school.
How Ignorant.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 06, 2009, 08:31:28 AM
You're right, there are no community service groups at either school.
How Ignorant.
+1. There are thousands of students at Notre Dame and UW-Madison who devote countless hours to community service. It is ignorant to think that is not the case and arrogant to believe that Marquette is the one shining star in the world of community activism. Just because these schools' basketball teams are our rivals does not mean that the entire student body from either school doesn't provide anything positive.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on February 06, 2009, 08:38:31 AM
Just because these schools' basketball teams are our rivals does not mean that the entire student body from either school doesn't provide anything positive.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 06, 2009, 08:31:28 AM
You're right, there are no community service groups at either school.
Because that's exactly what I said. My God you guys are ridiculous. I'm saying it happens to a greater extent at Marquette because of our location. It's ignorant to acknowledge the fact that one of Marquette's core values is service to the surrounding community and that this is a significant part of Marquette's unique identity? Get real.
Quote from: JSwarriors08 on February 06, 2009, 10:41:29 AM
Because that's exactly what I said. My God you guys are ridiculous. I'm saying it happens to a greater extent at Marquette because of our location. It's ignorant to acknowledge the fact that one of Marquette's core values is service to the surrounding community and that this is a significant part of Marquette's unique identity? Get real.
JS, you pull this crap all of the time.
Everyone can clearly see that is what you typed.
now you come back with a 'that isn't what I really meant' post, and we are supposed to swallow it?
perhaps the only person you are fooling is yourself?
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 06, 2009, 10:46:13 AM
JS, you pull this crap all of the time.
Everyone can clearly see that is what you typed.
now you come back with a 'that isn't what I really meant' post, and we are supposed to swallow it?
perhaps the only person you are fooling is yourself?
If by all the time you mean two threads where we have had this argument, then yes, this happens all the time.
I stand by what I said. Marquette is more involved in its community than other schools. I believe that. Nothing I said in that post was a retraction in any way.
Quote from: JSwarriors08 on February 05, 2009, 06:19:01 PM
I do agree about deriving our identity as a university from the area we are in. A unique aspect of the Marquette experience is being part of a geographical/socioeconomic area of town that other universities can't relate to. We're surrounded by homelessness and poverty. It helps to motivate Marquette's commitment to being a service-centered community that genuinely benefits Milwaukee. I have always admired that students and administration alike see the importance of/participate in community work, and I think that this is the way that we should continue to show that we're different from the hick-snobs of ND or the bratty communists in Madison. Our school cares enough to better the community we're in. For example, I love the fact that every halloween Marquette lets lower income families bring their kids trick-or-treating in the res halls, or that students actively participate in Midnight/Noon Run to provide food for the homeless, or that Hunger Cleanup mobilizes a huge part of the community to work toward a hunger-free city. I can't see that happening in South Bend or Madison.
Catholic faith and its consistent call to service is very prevalent at Notre Dame. The University of Wisconsin - Madison is well known for its progressive politics and activist nature. I am confident that ND and Madison both have similar community service programs at their respective institutions. And calling the kids at ND "hick snobs" and those at Madison "bratty communists" reflects poorly on you and, unfortunately, by extension it reflects poorly on all of us on this board.
It is what you said. Instead of trying to split hairs I think you should just apologize for being a disrespectful and ill-informed hack.
I'm still looking for a statistical analysis that shows improved shooting percentages of MU players based on % of fans wearing gold shirts vs. blue shirts.
The gold out would have been cool before every other team in every other sport did a [insert color here] out.
I also think there are a lot of superstitious people out there who may feel a certain level of luck working with a shirt that may not be gold. If that superstition helps them to enjoy the game more, then by all means continue.
Quote from: Pepperoni_Cannoli on February 05, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
One aspect of attending Marquette which I, (and a lot fo other students), took pride in is that we were the anti-ND, anti-UW-Madison, anti-UI-Champaign, etc. Those schools were in beautiful locales in the middle of nowhere; we all went to school in the ghetto. Those schools had a golden dome or fancy building; our campus was a trash-filled alley. I love MU and this is by no means an insult. Quite contrary, we took pride being from the 'wrong side of the tracks' if you will.
I think the idea that MU has a 'wrong side of the tracks' image when compared to UW-Madison is a little misguided.
Be at the game and yell. Noise not color rattles the other side. Tan Tommy himself knew this. When I sat in the front row he yelled to the sound guy "put on Cotton Eye Joe" NOW!
Quote from: Shankapotamus on February 06, 2009, 11:26:14 AM
I think the idea that MU has a 'wrong side of the tracks' image when compared to UW-Madison is a little misguided.
I think the idea of calling UI-Champaign a "beautiful locale" is a little misguided as well...
Quote from: Shankapotamus on February 06, 2009, 11:26:14 AM
I think the idea that MU has a 'wrong side of the tracks' image when compared to UW-Madison is a little misguided.
exactly my point earlier.
most people in the state think we are snobby rich kids.
Quote from: LCDutchman on February 06, 2009, 12:22:01 PM
Be at the game and yell. Noise not color rattles the other side. Tan Tommy himself knew this. When I sat in the front row he yelled to the sound guy "put on Cotton Eye Joe" NOW!
What an absolute loser, no wonder he got his ass outcoached time after time. Any moron can sense or have a good feel when to put on the collective of about 5-10 songs at what moment. Jeez oh pete, I think someone could ask me my birth day or kids names and I would have no idea during the middle of coachign a agme I am so intent on my team and the game. Perfect example of where Creans inability to delgate has him losing double digit games six years in a row now and in 8 of his 10 years a s a head coach. Great promoter terrible coach.