Not to open a site to bash the former coach but why would you not want to coach this crew until the seniors graduate?
It's Indiana. It's Indiana. Duh!
I don't miss him.
Some words you would never hear tonight under Crean. Marquette really knows how to attack a zone - Jay Bilas
Quote from: 1990Warrior on January 26, 2009, 08:16:18 PM
Some words you would never hear tonight under Crean. Marquette really knows how to attack a zone - Jay Bilas
Word to your mother
Can some of the "process" peolpe give Buzz some love?
I did a double take when Bilas said that
I'll be the first to admit that the Domer's zone wasn't Syracuse or Louisville caliber, but MU tore it to shreds. Under TC our only hope against a zone was hot 3 point shooting. Kudos to Buzz and the staff.
I don't think Crean knew what the words "paint touches" meant!
Quote from: mufansince72 on January 26, 2009, 08:59:45 PM
I don't think Crean knew what the words "paint touches" meant!
Liquid tan
Who?
I'm down with the jerk gone.
Mods,
Can you configure the site so that anytime someone types in Crean, the post automatically gets deleted?? Enough with that guy already..... he's gone folks, get over it.
Better yet - maybe a google like search filter that flags any post that contains "zone", "tan", "pepsi" "its indiana, its indiana", "east carolina", any post with 4ever involved....
Since the thread was titled Crean just don't read it. It gets old reading the same lecture to let it go time after time.
Fact is we never could attack the zone under Crean. We all commented at the game tonight how well they did.
I don't hate TC for leaving...
I hate TC for coming...
QuoteI don't hate TC for leaving...
I hate TC for coming...
+1,000,000
I am fully convinced that w/ TC at the helm this year, this team would have 2 or 3 losses. I don't think he would have pulled this win out and WV and Providence would have been close. Buzz's motion offense and lack of sets has these boys playing and performing up to their ability.
I'll tell you what. I recently moved to Indianapolis, and I am constantly surrounded by the IU/Tom Crean media train down here(and the Hoosiers are terrrrrrrrrrible).
So...I for one, don't mind hearing a little slight to the former coach. Sometimes a slight to TC, could just as well be interpreted as a praise to Buzz.
I liked Tom Crean when he was here. No way would he have this team 7-0 in the Big East. Good time for both to part ways. We're infinitely better with Buzz.
End. Of. Story.
Crean did a ton for Marquette and we have to appreciate that. He got us attention, got us into the Big East, and most importantly got the administration to spend money on basketball. The Al, Crean's Courtyard, etc. are all big recruiting tools that he was instrumental in getting. We all also knew that Crean was going to put in the time. No one could accuse him of being lazy.
He did a ton for Marquette, was good in the community, and won a ton of games. He was a product of Dwayne Wade's success as far as people thinking he was a good basketball coach, and I don't blame him for taking advantage of the opportunity presented to him. He is a better fit there, and we have Buzz.
Perhaps you can draw a comparison to when the Bulls fired Doug Collins back in 89. Collins coached the Bulls to the conference finals (yes, MJ and Scottie had a lot to do with it), and did a great job getting the franchise molded into a contender. That was as far as they could take them. They then hired a coach with little experience named Phil Jackson.
Crean lacks in game coaching savy, but we have to thank him for what he did for our school and team. The guy did the best he could, and we are better off for having had him.
Crean is gone; Crean is gone. It's Indiana; it's Indiana.
Let's forget that Bozo. he shot out of town like he had a rocket strapped to his kielbasa. By the way--It's Indiana has not won a conference game yet.
GOOD RIDDANCE.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on January 27, 2009, 02:53:05 AM
Crean lacks in game coaching savy, but we have to thank him for what he did for our school and team.
No doubt he got the program going again but call me crazy, I like coaches who can coach.
If you're an Indiana fan and you watch this MU team, my guess is that you feel its just a matter of time before Crean's team plays like this. It will not happen. This MU team is talented and plays together so well. Its 3 great players who all know their roles and a 4th in Hayward who seems underappreciated but is a great player himself. These guys are tough-minded who have benefited from playing together for 4 years and the battles they've participated in these past few years. They complement each other very well and Buzz has given them the freedom they've earned. Its a great team and one that Crean will have to get very lucky to re-create even though he'll be expected to in Bloomington.
Quote from: muarmy81 on January 26, 2009, 08:21:43 PM
Can some of the "process" peolpe give Buzz some love?
I will...I truly believed Buzz was in over his head on this job. What I didn't anticipate (and none of us could really given his lack of HC experience) is him taking Crean's players to another level like he has.
Also, I like that he recognizes his limitations and that he may not be the "best" coach on the floor, but takes care of that by just plain working harder. Clearly, there is no D-1 coach in the country that is going to outwork this guy or show more hunger. Despite his humility, I believe in a few years he will be considered one of the best out there.
If he keeps this success going, and given his recruiting abilities, we may be in for an amazing ride under Buzz. Great Job Coach!
Well said MUinCO. When empirical evidence proves an opinion (no matter how well thought out) to be mistaken, a prudent man reassesses and admits his error. Too many on this board would rather equivocate, insisting they were still essentially "right" in spite of mounting evidence to the contrary. The truth will set you free.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 27, 2009, 10:29:48 AM
Well said MUinCO. When empirical evidence proves an opinion (no matter how well thought out) to be mistaken, a prudent man reassesses and admits his error. Too many on this board would rather equivocate, insisting they were still essentially "right" in spite of mounting evidence to the contrary. The truth will set you free.
A lot of the people who voiced concern over the process that resulted in Buzz being hired weren't worried about this season.
Buzz deserves credit for noted differences in this team compared to the last three seasons. For those people who feel there is nothing wrong with being skeptical, the whole of their mind will change beginning next season when Buzz has an entire program of his own.
Never been a Crean fan and I will bash him when warranted but also give credit when it is due . The simple fact remains that without TC we would not be watching the 3 amigos this amazing season. He recruited and got them to come to MU and deserves credit for that.
Whether or not they blossomed as players as much as they should have under his tutelage is another story.
Quote from: detroitwarrior on January 27, 2009, 11:11:48 AM
Never been a Crean fan and I will bash him when warranted but also give credit when it is due . The simple fact remains that without TC we would not be watching the 3 amigos this amazing season. He recruited and got them to come to MU and deserves credit for that.
Whether or not they blossomed as players as much as they should have under his tutelage is another story.
I think some posters are off their rockers... Crean gave us some great seasons. My issue is the way he left. As for how he ran the program, I am not a basketball expert but I play and watch a ton. I don't think it takes a genius to realize the Amigos potential. I remember watching their freshmen year and thinking to myself, this really could eventually become a national championship team. To bring in only one (Hayward) additional great player during the Amigos stay blows me away. I know we lost TT and Williams but we all know what piece we are missing to be considered a National Championship contender. That's my rant and I am over it.