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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on January 18, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
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I wish I knew how to add a poll (anyone?) .... What will MU be ranked next week? Some Stats/Info.
Last week MU was ranked 14 (ESPN/Coaches). While MU won on Providence this week ....
15 (ASU) Lost to USC
14 (MU) Won Against Prov.
13 (ND) Lost Twice, 'ville and 'cuse
12 (G-Town) Lost to Duke
11 (Texas) Lost To Okla
10 (MSU) Won Against PSU and Illini
9 (Clem) Lost To Wake
8 ('Cuse) Lost to G-Town
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My guess is around 10 or 11
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I am going with 11th. If we get wins against Depaul and then break NDs home court record, you will see MU take a big jump in the polls. I am thinking between 5 and 7. But that is only if we can get the big win against Notre Dame.
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I am going with 11th. If we get wins against Depaul and then break NDs home court record, you will see MU take a big jump in the polls. I am thinking between 5 and 7. But that is only if we can get the big win against Notre Dame.
and GT at home, the saturday after the ND game
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12 at best. They'll move ahead of ND and Teaxs or UCLA. There are also a couple teams lurking behind that could make some big jumps this week and move ahead of them (Minn, Butler, ASU, Xavier, even Louisville).
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keep in mind that ASU (15) beat UCLA (7) yesterday, so they could leapfrog us
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keep in mind that ASU (15) beat UCLA (7) yesterday, so they could leapfrog us
ASU lost to Cal earlier in the week so I don't think that they will jump us. Louisville possilby could jump us as they have beaten 3 straight ranked teams, but I expect MU to be about 11.
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I am going with 11th. If we get wins against Depaul and then break NDs home court record, you will see MU take a big jump in the polls. I am thinking between 5 and 7. But that is only if we can get the big win against Notre Dame.
We won't leapfrog the #5 through #10 teams simply because we beat ND and snap their streak. Those other teams will also have to lose for us to move up.
Meanwhile, even #11 this week isn't a sure thing. Yes, Georgetown lost to Duke, but they also beat Syracuse--and Duke may well be the new #1, so losing to them may not be considered a negative. Texas lost to Oklahoma--also a top 10 team--but beat Texas A&M. While we SHOULD improve rank over ND, Texas and Georgetown and perhaps Clemson, I don't think it's a lock.
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I wish I knew how to add a poll (anyone?)
well.... instead of clicking the button that says "new topic" you click the one right next to it that says "post new poll". Will add the poll to your post for ya though
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My guess is around 10 or 11
10 would be great because that is the "Top Ten". Granted, it's #10, but its funny how #10 is so much bettter than #11. Kind of like how if you are #25 and in the poll, it is way better than being #26 and only a few votes short of the Top 25.
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We should move to 12. ND will drop. Georgetown won't move much. Losing to Duke at Duke is not a game that will drop them too far. Looservilee will likely shoot up about 7 to 9 slots.
While I love 16-2, we have not played the biggies in the conference yet, and most of the biggies have played each other. We do need to win some of those games. ND will be a loss. Pitt is beatable, so is Georgetown. Looserville is beatable--they live and die by the three. UConn will be tough for us and so will Syracuse
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Reality Check:
>>>Real Time RPI has us at 18th, 6th highest BE team
>>>Power Ratings has us at 13th, 5th highest in BE
>>>Pomeroy has us at 23rd, 6th in BE.
While we were overrated to start last year, we will be underrated this year until we hit ND and GTown. No Top 10. I can even see Louisville jumping ahead of us.
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We should move to 12. ND will drop. Georgetown won't move much. Losing to Duke at Duke is not a game that will drop them too far. Looservilee will likely shoot up about 7 to 9 slots.
While I love 16-2, we have not played the biggies in the conference yet, and most of the biggies have played each other. We do need to win some of those games. ND will be a loss. Pitt is beatable, so is Georgetown. Looserville is beatable--they live and die by the three. UConn will be tough for us and so will Syracuse
I don't see why ND is a certain loss. We beat them 2/3 times last year and if Blackledge could have caught the ball it probably would have been 3/3. We both have essentially the same team.
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10th
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We play at ND this year. They do not lose at home.
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We play at ND this year. They do not lose at home.
They were a Trend Blackledge ESPN highlight dunk away from losing last year.
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Before we start talking about ND and GT...let's deal with DePaul next weekend.
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Who cares? Keep taking care of business and the ranking will take care of itself. Our next problem is DePaul. Focus on the ranking instead of them and MU loses.
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Who cares? Keep taking care of business and the ranking will take care of itself. Our next problem is DePaul. Focus on the ranking instead of them and MU loses.
Umm, not to be a wiseguy, but unless one of us is secretly a coach or player, I feel pretty confident that we can discuss or focus on whatever we like, and it won't affect our team's outcome against DePaul one iota...
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willie warrior.... MU was the last team to beat ND at home and they'll do it again this year and they played ND very tough at home last year as well...ND's defense is absolutely terrible and we will shred them apart as long as we do not completely rely on the 3 ball (although the way this team has been shooting of late who knows)... I think the key will be to go at Harangody and get him in foul trouble early
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Umm, not to be a wiseguy, but unless one of us is secretly a coach or player, I feel pretty confident that we can discuss or focus on whatever we like, and it won't affect our team's outcome against DePaul one iota...
this cracked me up "legacy" I always get a kick out of people who say things like "We can't take them too lightly" or "we better not look past the next game" as if they are on the team. WE can do whatever we like - WE can talk about the BEast tourney or March Madness all we want. WE won't affect how the team prepares for Depaul
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no higher than 12th.
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10th
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We will move up but no way we touch 10.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong though. :)
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I think 10. We could be as low as 12, but with all the acknowledgement of how great the Big East is this year, I've got to believe being alone in first place, half a game better than Louisville, is going to get attention to give us those extra couple of spots. Voters aren't going to think we are the best team in the Big East, but just being in first is significant.
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TV Dinner;
While I would love to see us beat ND on their floor, I just do not think it will happen. They rarely lose there. They are the Irish (luck of the Irish), the Golden Domers, and always get the hometown calls from the refs, football and basketball.
I don't know what their won lost % all time is at home, but it seems like for years they have always been up there with one of the longest home court win streaks.
If we win there, then we can really get excited about our prospects. I will be rooting for the Warriors, but we will need a tremendous game.
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Maybe I'm just the internal optimist, but looking through everyone's games this week I think we come in at No. 10. I think we clearly pass two teams: #11 Texas with it's 4th loss of the year a blowout against Oklahoma, and #12 Notre Dame after lopsided losses to Louisville and Syracuse to go to 5 losses.
Then I think we pass two of four:
#8 Syracuse with lopsided loss to a Georgetown team that is losing the luster from the UConn win, and will their win against ND be enough to keep them ahead of us with NDs struggles?
#9 UCLA with their 3rd loss against Arizona State (and the previous losses against Texas and Michigan teams that aren't looking as good now)
#10 Clemson which still has the early season wonder questions from last year getting beat by Wake.
#13 Georgetown did come back against Duke a little, and had the big win on Syracuse, but I think they are looking more like a freshman heavy team who is not quite there yet.
If we pass two of those four then we are Top 10.
I think it's really a reach for anyone to pass us. Xavier was just behind us but not sure beating a decent Rhode Island team (12-6) and a weak LaSalle team gets them above us winning at Providence.
#16 Arizona State had the big win against UCLA, but lose to USC.
#19 Purdue two good wins, and #20 Louisville two impressive wins (ND and #1 Pitt), but that's a lot of spots to jump.
We could be #12, but I'm guessing, and hoping, for a Top 10 breakthrough.
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TV Dinner;
While I would love to see us beat ND on their floor, I just do not think it will happen. They rarely lose there. They are the Irish (luck of the Irish), the Golden Domers, and always get the hometown calls from the refs, football and basketball.
I don't know what their won lost % all time is at home, but it seems like for years they have always been up there with one of the longest home court win streaks.
If we win there, then we can really get excited about our prospects. I will be rooting for the Warriors, but we will need a tremendous game.
Plus, we'll be their fourth game in a brutal stretch of five games. at Louisville (L), at Syracuse (L), vs UConn, vs MU, at Pitt. We are arguably their easiest game. They HAVE to beat us because their season depends on it.
Root for ND to beat UConn.
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11
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Who cares? Keep taking care of business and the ranking will take care of itself. Our next problem is DePaul. Focus on the ranking instead of them and MU loses.
I'm pretty sure i could spend the next two weeks focusing on Erin Andrews and it wouldn't effect the team's performance.
2 kinds of posts i find silly:
1: Don't look ahead, WE have to take it one game at a time.
2: The talking about this is a waste of time. (as if any time spent on this site is truly constructive.)
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Plus, we'll be their fourth game in a brutal stretch of five games. at Louisville (L), at Syracuse (L), vs UConn, vs MU, at Pitt. We are arguably their easiest game. They HAVE to beat us because their season depends on it.
Root for ND to beat UConn.
You think that's tough, try @Georgetown, vs UConn, @Louisville, @Pitt, vs Syracuse. That's a brutal stretch. ;D
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news is out. mu is #10.