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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ecompt on January 17, 2009, 10:40:11 PM

Title: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: ecompt on January 17, 2009, 10:40:11 PM
Just asking. I did not see the play.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: Big Papi on January 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Play was clean.  Fulce was standing with arms straight up.  Xavier twisted and jumped into Fulce and his head went right into Fulce's elbow. 
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: LastWarrior on January 17, 2009, 10:42:15 PM
Fulce was standing straight up with his arms in the arm and Xavier bumped into his elbow.  Totally clean.  Unfortunate for Xavier.  Response was totally inappropriate.  

For what it's worth, the ESPN announcers agreed that it was a clean play and didn't understand why he was so upset.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: Dry White Toast on January 17, 2009, 10:42:26 PM
ABSOLUTELY CLEAN.  no reason for a fan to come on the court (as if there ever is) or for him to go crazy on his way to the locker room.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: nyg on January 17, 2009, 10:42:52 PM
Yes, very clean and not even close to being an issue.  Still don't get Xavier's over reaction.  His teamates didn't even blink an eye at the foul.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: bma725 on January 17, 2009, 10:43:11 PM
Absolutely clean.  Xavier had nothing to complain about, and it didn't even really look like Fulce made much contact at all.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: muole on January 17, 2009, 10:43:29 PM
there wasn't even a foul.  I honestly didn't even see him get hit in the face.  he and his brother acted like real bi+ches in the aftermath.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: dsfire on January 17, 2009, 10:49:51 PM
Tv guys said later in the game that he was partially upset because they didn't call a foul on the play (apparently Fulce got whistled for a foul against McDermott 0.5 seconds later).  I suspect you get a whistle on a play like that with an injury most of the time at home, though something in the back of my mind says the same thing has happened without a foul at Marquette a couple of times (minus the visitor on the court).
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 17, 2009, 10:50:43 PM
It's as clean as if I held by elbow out and you ran your face into it.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: patso on January 17, 2009, 10:52:14 PM
Providence looks bad by the reaction of Xavier and the fan. If it happened at Bradley I would be embarrased
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on January 17, 2009, 11:10:45 PM
it was a foul except it was not called the foul was called a second later and Mcdermott went to the line.  it also was not his elbow it was his hand,  but it was a foul...Bottom line if he does not bleed it is a none event.  Stuff happens.  Bush league on his brother and he should have gotten atech for his antics as he left s well.  Unintentional but when big men play hard stuff happens
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: bilsu on January 17, 2009, 11:22:18 PM
Fulce had his arms straight up and the player ran into him. I did not realize at first that the foul was not called, but looking at it in the replay I did not think it was a foul at all.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 17, 2009, 11:36:20 PM
I'll have video up soon.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: chonefigs on January 17, 2009, 11:44:52 PM
I'm pretty sure it wasn't the elbow that got him... When they showed the replays it looked like one of Joe's fingers got him.  I think he poked/ scratched his eye
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 17, 2009, 11:50:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv4eguhhL0o

Up on YouTube


EDIT: Now that I look at it, it may have been Fulce's left hand.
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: Pardner on January 18, 2009, 12:05:46 AM
Xavier also took a few extra steps before contact was even made.  Crazy reaction all the way around.  Buzz did the right thing by pulling his players back.  The refs could have called a T on the brother, on Xavier and on Buzz who came on the floor and out of the box.  Where was Keno?
Title: Re: Was the Xavier play clean?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 18, 2009, 12:10:25 AM
Xavier also took a few extra steps before contact was even made.  Crazy reaction all the way around.  Buzz did the right thing by pulling his players back.  The refs could have called a T on the brother, on Xavier and on Buzz who came on the floor and out of the box.  Where was Keno?

I noticed that too.

There's a feeling that this is a disjointed team. NO ONE on the PC team came to check on Xavier. The first person there was the trainer (I believe) then the first player (GMac) came along. The rest seemed to stand around and look.

I know that MU guys are very responsive to their teammates who are on the floor.