interesting. I have often thought the same way but I always put it down to the fact I am watching on TV and can't always tell. I also think players like Hansborough and Griffin get more slack fromt he officials. see link below:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3837838
I saw that earlier today and totally agree. One of the reasons I barely watch the NBA anymore. No enforcement of the rules.
Quote from: SaintPaulWarrior on January 16, 2009, 03:31:59 PM
I saw that earlier today and totally agree. One of the reasons I barely watch the NBA anymore. No enforcement of the rules.
Yup...and here's LeBron doing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8UAu4nf9vs
Nowhere NEAR as bad as this terrible terrible terrible travel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9Z1wAwQtM&feature=channel_page
But to be fair, traveling calls are tough to call. Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with Coach Knight, but it's hard to see them sometimes due to the speed of the game. What BK was pointing out were borderline pivots and when looked at microscopically, yes they are violations.
Quote from: MUCrew on January 16, 2009, 03:41:01 PM
What BK was pointing out were borderline pivots and when looked at microscopically, yes they are violations.
This one's not borderline: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7DjZehIGvs
2 things 1st of all the refs especially the baseline ref are looking at the torso arms etc for contact hard to watch both from that close.
second hansborough walked...picking up his pivot. I like bob knight but he get a little carried away with hi # of steps. somoe can take 50 "steps" so long as they dont pick up their pivot. so for him to call those steps is a little misleading. Hansborough if i caught would have been a walk. I thought griffin was a bad example he did not walk IMO.
Sometimes the refs watch the guards and call it. Other games they let the guards get away with the quick step. I think refs have a meeting before the game to decide what they are going to emphasize. I always felt they could predetermine the outcome of the game before it starts by how they decide to ref it. Take a game between Syracuse and Pittsburg. They decide no blood no foul the advantage is Pittsburg. They decide to watch the guards first step the advantage again is Pittsburg, since Syracuse relies on quickness. They do not watch bigmen's feet advantage Pittsburg. They decide to call touch fouls advantage goes to Syracuse. They do not watch first step advantage goes to Syracuse. This is some of the reasons why we have upsets in college basketball. Part of it can be offset by a senior team that has the experience to adjust to how the refs call the game. Inexperience teams are not good at making this adjustment.
Quote from: MUCrew on January 16, 2009, 03:41:01 PM
Yup...and here's LeBron doing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8UAu4nf9vs
Nowhere NEAR as bad as this terrible terrible terrible travel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9Z1wAwQtM&feature=channel_page
But to be fair, traveling calls are tough to call. Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with Coach Knight, but it's hard to see them sometimes due to the speed of the game. What BK was pointing out were borderline pivots and when looked at microscopically, yes they are violations.
I agree with everything you said but that Hansborough example was eye popping bad when they slowed down his motion. His pivot foot was all over the place and the refs should place a greater emphasis on making sure those pivot foots don't move a foot to the left or right.
Would it help to add refs?
I mean, maybe one extra ref on the baseline is really looking for travels and 3 second calls maybe charges, while the others are watch the rest of the game.
Maybe the game has just gotten too fast and they need an extra official.