From the WV Scout:
"At the end of the game, Huggins shot a couple of icy stares in the direction of first-year MU head coach Buzz Williams as the Golden Eagle starters continued to bomb away with the game well in hand. Senior guard Dominic James drained a 3 with 25 seconds to play.
"At the end, they were having fun. They were having a lot of fun. They'll have a lot of fun the next time we play them," said an obviously-perturbed Huggins. "
http://westvirginia.scout.com/2/828942.html
Huggy bear dishing out threats after a huge loss? You stay classy, West Virginia! ;D
there was a point with about a minute and a half left where we had the ball and Buzz was signaling to space it out and just keep the ball outside. When they had an open look with the shot clock winding down they'd jack up a shot and knock it down. I don't see the problem in that. There was one possession i remember late where we took a shot early in the shot clock. I looked at Buzz and he looked a little like, ok guys, we can just keep possession. But w/e. It's a BEAST game and I'm sure Thuggy Bear has never done the same. ::)
I don't know about you but it feels good to have Huggy Bear pissed at MU again. He bent over and took it this year and we may next year, but I'll be damned if we won't enjoy the present circumstances.
I think if there had been a stop in the action over the last 2 min, Buzz would have yanked DJ and Jerel with bench warmers .. but the action never stopped. DJ did put up a 3 that wasn't necessary .. but that's the only possession I'd say was over the top.
Quote from: Stone Cold on January 10, 2009, 03:34:30 PM
I don't know about you but it feels good to have Huggy Bear pissed at MU again. He bent over and took it this year and we may next year, but I'll be damned if we won't enjoy the present circumstances.
+1
and when did "Thuggins" become the Mother Teresa of college B-ball that everyone must respect and not embarrass?
Buzz also deserves kudos from learning from the Rutgers game. When we were up by 20 he brought in Acker et. al and Rutgers got right back in it. Was he suppose to repeat that mistake?
Finally, what's wrong with rubbing Thuggins nose in it with DeShonte Riley sitting at the end of the bench?
Quote from: wade_favre on January 10, 2009, 03:16:12 PM
From the WV Scout:
"At the end of the game, Huggins shot a couple of icy stares in the direction of first-year MU head coach Buzz Williams as the Golden Eagle starters continued to bomb away with the game well in hand. Senior guard Dominic James drained a 3 with 25 seconds to play.
"At the end, they were having fun. They were having a lot of fun. They'll have a lot of fun the next time we play them," said an obviously-perturbed Huggins. "
http://westvirginia.scout.com/2/828942.html
Huggy bear dishing out threats after a huge loss? You stay classy, West Virginia! ;D
I said the same thing to my son....when DJ took that 3 pointer, Huggins looked really pissed off. He was already angry after the T but DJ probably could have avoided taking that 3.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 10, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
I said the same thing to my son....when DJ took that 3 pointer, Huggins looked really pissed off. He was already angry after the T but DJ probably could have avoided taking that 3.
I agree. Huggybear dishing out threats is uncalled for. Next time we have a big lead on West Virginia we will make sure we get shot clock violations on our last few possessions so that we don't irate the WARDEN. ::)
Let me understand... With the shot clock winding down in the last minute, James launched a 3 and hit it. According to Huggins, what should he have done? Drive to the hole and risk an undercut by a classy WV wingman? Let it run out and take an undeserved turnover? ::)
A new phrase is coined today... WWHD.
What would Huggins do.
Stay classy, Morgantown!
Somebody should tell Huggy to look at the score chart that ESPN.com puts up with their recaps. From the point when Butler fouls out, MU's line goes up at about a 45 degree angle while WVU's virtually flatlines.
I've seen teams come back from 20 down with 25 seconds, good shot DJ
With threats from this board if he took out the big three... he left them in to make sure we win by double digits ;D
Quote from: Jeronne_toMU09 on January 10, 2009, 04:25:05 PM
I've seen teams come back from 20 down with 25 seconds, good shot DJ
Not even possible.
Quote from: spartan3186 on January 10, 2009, 04:35:57 PM
Not even possible.
Sure it is. ;) For those of us that went to MU when I did, do you remember the 13 point possession against Evansville. I'm serious...look it up.
Multiple technical fouls, three pointers, etc...MU scored 13 points in a row before Evansville even took possession of the ball. It was crazy. If I remember it was a 3 pointer in which we were fouled, got the extra free throw, double technicals called...4 more points, ball out of bounds to MU, hit another three pointer, technical foul.....something to that extent.
I have no problem with the 3 DJ took at the end of the game (and I'm someone who gets royally pissed with teams with comfortable/big leads that shoot with the shot clock off). The shot clock was NOT off, should DJ hold the ball and take the violation? In my opinion, that rubs it in even more.
If the shot clock is going, play ball. Don't like it? Stop him. It's not like MU ran an alley-oop play and slapped the backboard.
If anyone can get the video or transcript of his postgame press conference you should check it out.
At one point a reporter asked Huggy Bear if he thought the game was reffed differently in the second half. Huggins said, "are you trying to get me in trouble? I get in enough trouble. I'd comment but I can't."
next time Mu fans want to bitch about officiating or Jim Burr just pop in the 1/10/2009 WvU game tape and you will feel instantly better about Jim Burr and officiating in general. Not saying it was a bad agame but I dont seem to rememebr a single questionable call going a against us. the even called a tech against WVU for 6 players when they only had 5 on the court!
Any Huggie sightings in Turners after the game? Bob, it is called a beat down. Learn to enjoy it.
Quote from: Pardner on January 10, 2009, 06:19:04 PM
Any Huggie sightings in Turners after the game? Bob, it is called a beat down. Learn to enjoy it.
Or at least call Donald Little to have beat downs explained.
Quote from: MUBasketball on January 10, 2009, 04:49:21 PM
I have no problem with the 3 DJ took at the end of the game (and I'm someone who gets royally pissed with teams with comfortable/big leads that shoot with the shot clock off). The shot clock was NOT off, should DJ hold the ball and take the violation? In my opinion, that rubs it in even more.
Except that he wasn't anywhere near the violation yet. DJ scored with 15 seconds left on the shot clock. It would be different if he were shooting as the clock was going to expire, but he wasn't anywhere close, which makes it kind of a jackass move. When you're up 19 and get a rebound with 45 second to go, launching a 3 with 15 seconds on the shot clock is not the classy thing to do.
I was in Morgantown last year...trust me WV wasn't just running out the clock at home. I am not saying today was payback. But I shed no tears for WV and their 22 point loss today.
Maybe DJ was making a statement to Ruoff for the 15 or so elbows he popped in DJ in the face with? It was obvious that WVU was going right at DJ from the get-go. I always find those who are the most offended in these situations are the biggest offenders leading up. This is all a Huggins ploy to incite his team to step it up a notch...just like his T was planned when the game was getting out of reach. All gamesmanship.
Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on January 10, 2009, 06:14:11 PM
next time Mu fans want to bitch about officiating or Jim Burr just pop in the 1/10/2009 WvU game tape and you will feel instantly better about Jim Burr and officiating in general. Not saying it was a bad agame but I dont seem to rememebr a single questionable call going a against us. the even called a tech against WVU for 6 players when they only had 5 on the court!
One of the first plays of the game Lazar got called for a block and he was not anywhere near touching the WVU player... it wasn't even close. And Ruoff was CONSTANTLY throwing elbows and pushing off and most of those did not get called. The officiating went our way for the most part but there were def questionable calls.
Let's face it DJ jacking up a 3 is most often the easiest way for the other team to get the ball back.
eyeballs, I was in Morgantown last year, too, and today I shed no tears for Huggy. What did he want Dom to do, stand there and get a shot-clock violation? Dom did the thing that he does worst, which is fire up a 3-pointer. The Mountaineers did the same thing to us last year.
Huggy Bear should have known that DJ's gunning for #1 All-Time MU Scorer and needs all the points he can get!
Quote from: TheManInGold on January 10, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Let's face it DJ jacking up a 3 is most often the easiest way for the other team to get the ball back.
Not lately!
Quote from: bma725 on January 10, 2009, 06:43:00 PM
Except that he wasn't anywhere near the violation yet. DJ scored with 15 seconds left on the shot clock. It would be different if he were shooting as the clock was going to expire, but he wasn't anywhere close, which makes it kind of a jackass move. When you're up 19 and get a rebound with 45 second to go, launching a 3 with 15 seconds on the shot clock is not the classy thing to do.
Well we're all entitled to our opinions, but I disagree with that thinking. If the shot clock isn't turned off, and it's silly to hold the ball for a violation, that means run the offense and work a shot. If that means a shot (3 or otherwise) comes a few seconds into the possession or at the end, what's the difference? A shot is going up anyway.
Huggs preaches defense and rebounding. Stop the other team if you don't want them to score. Teams shouldn't be expected to roll over and play dead until the game is over (or, in the case of this discussion, the shot clock is turned off).
Screw Huggins .
And it's not like WVU was trying at that point. If they want to be mad about getting the score ran up on them, show some pride and play out the whole game. At a minute and a half MU was dribbling it out like there was 10 seconds left and West Virginia just stood there. So if West Virginia was playing hard, I think it would be right for MU to run their offense and take a decent shot with 5 seconds left, but they didn't. Was James supposed to stand there for 10 seconds before he shot? There wasn't a WVU guy near him. The only complaint I would make was that he posed for awhile and held his arm in the air running down the court. However, with all the abuse he took from some cheap shots from WVU (which resulted in at least one foul called against him) I would get excited too, and the crowd was real pumped up so it was more of a heat of the moment type of deal.
I was at the game but can;t remember how much time was on the clock when DJ pulled the 3 point trigger - somewhere above it said 45 seconds. So who cares if DJ pulls the trigger with 5 seconds left of the hot clock or 24? Regardless, we have to take a shot or it's a turnover - and why should we take a turnover? If there was more time ont he clock that 35 seconds, then I have no issue at all with DJ hiking the 3 - he was wide open, knew he had to take a shot or face a violation, so why not?
Quote from: mugrack on January 10, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
Screw Huggins .
Couldn't have said it better myself. Suck it, Huggy Bear.
Quote from: TheManInGold on January 10, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Let's face it DJ jacking up a 3 is most often the easiest way for the other team to get the ball back.
Great line!!!!!
I have no problem with how we played at the end of the game. I do have a problem with who was on the floor at the end of the game. Why the bench wasn't emptied with 2 or 3 minutes to go is beyond me.
This whole sportsmanship thing at the end of games thing has gotten out of hand. In the old days both coaches would have emptied their bench with 2 minutes to go and the players on both sides would play 90 mph in an effort to impress the coach and hopefully get some playing time. What's wrong with that? It's certainly better than just standing around dribbling waiting for the clock to run out. It's crazy that Frozena can't take a shot when we're up 20 and we get the ball with the shot clock turned off.
How is it disrespecting your opponent to continue to play basketball?
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 11, 2009, 10:33:28 AM
I have no problem with how we played at the end of the game. I do have a problem with who was on the floor at the end of the game. Why the bench wasn't emptied with 2 or 3 minutes to go is beyond me.
This whole sportsmanship thing at the end of games thing has gotten out of hand. In the old days both coaches would have emptied their bench with 2 minutes to go and the players on both sides would play 90 mph in an effort to impress the coach and hopefully get some playing time. What's wrong with that? It's certainly better than just standing around dribbling waiting for the clock to run out. It's crazy that Frozena can't take a shot when we're up 20 and we get the ball with the shot clock turned off.
How is it disrespecting your opponent to continue to play basketball?
I agree with you. The subs should have been in for both teams as soon as we were up 15. However, in high school basketball I always noticed that the team about to be defeated needs to concede the loss by putting their subs in first. If I were Buzz I wouldn't put my subs in until Hugy bear put his in.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 10, 2009, 04:46:09 PM
Sure it is. ;) For those of us that went to MU when I did, do you remember the 13 point possession against Evansville. I'm serious...look it up.
Multiple technical fouls, three pointers, etc...MU scored 13 points in a row before Evansville even took possession of the ball. It was crazy. If I remember it was a 3 pointer in which we were fouled, got the extra free throw, double technicals called...4 more points, ball out of bounds to MU, hit another three pointer, technical foul.....something to that extent.
I doubt that 20 pts in 25 seconds is really possible, but I recall in 1974, North Carolina trailed Duke, 86-78, with 17 seconds to play—and ended up winning in OT.
As to the alleged run up--I'm with everyone else--screw Huggins.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on January 11, 2009, 11:14:23 AM
I doubt that 20 pts in 25 seconds is really possible, but I recall in 1974, North Carolina trailed Duke, 86-78, with 17 seconds to play—and ended up losing in OT.
As to the alleged run up--I'm with everyone else--screw Huggins.
21 points in 75 seconds is possible. Ask Jon Scheyer as he did it himself in high school.
20 points in 25 seconds? nah.
Screw Huggins...
FYI....Butler gave section 106 the bird(twice) when he fouled out...immediately following the "sit down" by us. Some classy players you got there Huggy-bear.
It's nice having this debate when we're the team that is up by 20+ points isn't it?
I think the 20 points in 25 seconds comment was meant to be in teal - I hope.
I also agree subs should have been in the game at the point where DJ's shot was taken. Then there would have been no question regarding whether the score was being run up or not. I was an end of the bench scrub in high school and I promise you I never let up in the last two minutes (that was the only time I played and the only chance I had to prove myself worthy of more minutes). Not to mention the possibility of injury to your starters when a game is decided.
it was the perfect ending to the game....maybe WVU should've played some defense and DJ wouldn't have had such an open look....Huggins is a d-bag.
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on January 11, 2009, 01:30:41 PM
it was the perfect ending to the game....maybe WVU should've played some defense and DJ wouldn't have had such an open look....Huggins is a d-bag.
Truth.
For all the abuse and dirty tactics WVU employed, I can't get mad at DJ for rubbing it in their face.
DB got heated too after he swatted that one shot and yelled in the WVU player's face, but it was DJ who grabbed him and calmed Big Burke down. (Man, he swatted it so hard it went farther than the t-shirts thrown by the male cheerleaders after an MU 3 pointer)
It was an intense game, and like y'all been sayin', it's WVU's fault for not playing good enough D.
It is a universal thing for losers to cry today. What is the difference if you lose by 22 or 19, you still got your ass whipped.