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Title: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: Wareagle on January 05, 2009, 11:50:18 AM
Pitt your new #1
9 BEast teams in the top 25

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/polls/coaches/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/polls/coaches/)
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: nyg on January 05, 2009, 11:53:29 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: CTWarrior on January 05, 2009, 11:55:43 AM
Big East has 9 teams in the top 25 (top 22 actually)!  None of the remaining 7 teams have as much as 1 vote, though. 
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: 🏀 on January 05, 2009, 11:57:06 AM
Wow, Duke is...well...overrated.

I thought ND would have dropped further.

Big East is tough. That's really there is. Other than Louisville, losses inside the conference hit us in the rankings.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: JSwarriors08 on January 05, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
we are overrated.  sorry.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: augoman on January 05, 2009, 12:11:21 PM
I'm puzzled by the MSU ranking, and agree that we are overranked as well.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: chapman on January 05, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
So much for Wisconsin being near us, they're 38th.  Parrish at CBS loves them though.

I think we have a couple of games to win this week to deserve the #15 spot, but with everyone else losing we just fell into place by winning at the right time.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: RawdogDX on January 05, 2009, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: JSwarriors08 on January 05, 2009, 12:10:35 PM
we are overrated.  sorry.

Who has (16) Arizona St beaten where they should be above us?  
Would you put (17) Villanova ahead of us?
(18) Xavier?  There best wins are Memphis and cinci

You don't think we belong in the same sentence as (12) Michigan St, (13) Notre Dame, and (14) Purdue?  Why, because Purdue beat Boston college back in November?

I'm not saying we should be higher or lower but I don't understand saying we are 'overrated'.  Consistently people act like 10 of the top 25 teams are overrated, this is mathematically impossible.  We have quality wins and no bad losses.  More than you can say for the teams below us and for some of the teams above us.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: drewm88 on January 05, 2009, 12:39:38 PM
This seems like a bigger jump than we earned, but I thought we were under-ranked the last couple weeks, so it evens out in my mind.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: Pago Warrior on January 05, 2009, 12:42:12 PM
Being ranked #15 "sounds" high but after looking at the other teams around us much like RawDog points out, its not too much of a stretch to have us at 15.

That said, after the Cinici win, my initial wish was for a ~18 ranking.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: UPitt89 on January 05, 2009, 12:47:46 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 05, 2009, 11:55:43 AM
Big East has 9 teams in the top 25 (top 22 actually)!  None of the remaining 7 teams have as much as 1 vote, though. 

Know what is even MORE insane?

One of those nine teams will have to play the Tuesday afternoon 9-vs-16 game in the Big East tournament and will be put into a position of having to win five games in five nights to win the tourney.

Think about that.....
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: IAmMarquette on January 05, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: UPitt89 on January 05, 2009, 12:47:46 PM
Know what is even MORE insane?

One of those nine teams will have to play the Tuesday afternoon 9-vs-16 game in the Big East tournament and will be put into a position of having to win five games in five nights to win the tourney.

Think about that.....



Ridiculous. What an absolute killer!
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: bamamarquettefan on January 05, 2009, 01:01:07 PM
This is great.  The West Virginia game is a massive test.  I think they are the one Big East opponent we face who is still way underrated.  Not to worry about other games, but it would be nice for them to win a big road game this week and then have us knock them off Saturday.  I know we have to take care of business after the long trip to Rutgers, but can't help getting excited about what a 4-0 start would mean if we can handle WVUs great defense.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: JSwarriors08 on January 05, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
Quote from: RawdogDX on January 05, 2009, 12:33:39 PM
Who has (16) Arizona St beaten where they should be above us?  
Would you put (17) Villanova ahead of us?
(18) Xavier?  There best wins are Memphis and cinci

You don't think we belong in the same sentence as (12) Michigan St, (13) Notre Dame, and (14) Purdue?  Why, because Purdue beat Boston college back in November?

I'm not saying we should be higher or lower but I don't understand saying we are 'overrated'.  Consistently people act like 10 of the top 25 teams are overrated, this is mathematically impossible.  We have quality wins and no bad losses.  More than you can say for the teams below us and for some of the teams above us.


You know what?  You're right.  Allow me to modify my claim.

I believe that a 10 spot jump because of two home wins against Villanova and Cincy is a bit premature and unjustified.  Had they been road wins, I would be more likely to agree.  I know Marquette certainly proved that they are worth more than a 25, but these were both games that we should win.  I don't think we should make huge jumps because we beat a better-than-average and a mediocre BEast team.  

But I think you make a good point.  We would beat most of the teams you mentioned around us most of the time.  Using that argument we certainly deserve it.  I guess I might just feel a little wary because I'd rather be ranked low and have everything to gain than everything to lose heading into the densest part of our schedule.  The last few years our tendency has been to acheive a high rank and then collapse.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: Kramerica on January 05, 2009, 01:58:29 PM
AP is up and has us at 18. 
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: ecompt on January 05, 2009, 02:04:58 PM
I agree we are probably a tad overrated, but no more so than Notre Dame.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: reinko on January 05, 2009, 02:14:11 PM
Quote from: IAmMarquette on January 05, 2009, 12:49:10 PM

Ridiculous. What an absolute killer!

The BE Tourney will be nasty.  5 games in 5 nights?  4 games in 4 nights?  Absolute NCAA tourney killer.  Take the first two and bow out gracefully.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: mosarsour on January 05, 2009, 05:39:53 PM
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on January 05, 2009, 01:01:07 PM
This is great.  The West Virginia game is a massive test.  I think they are the one Big East opponent we face who is still way underrated.  Not to worry about other games, but it would be nice for them to win a big road game this week and then have us knock them off Saturday.  I know we have to take care of business after the long trip to Rutgers, but can't help getting excited about what a 4-0 start would mean if we can handle WVUs great defense.

Let's worry about beating Rutgers and going 3-0 before we look ahead to WVU. Every road game in the BEAST is going to be a tough contest.
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: only a warrior on January 05, 2009, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: mosarsour on January 05, 2009, 05:39:53 PM
Let's worry about beating Rutgers and going 3-0 before we look ahead to WVU. Every road game in the BEAST is going to be a tough contest.

+1
Title: Re: Coaches Poll Up, MU #15
Post by: Badgerhater920 on January 05, 2009, 06:44:06 PM
It's been well documented on this board - too much is made of the polls. Tennessee is 15th the AP yet 25th in the Coaches'.
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