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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: WashDCWarrior on December 23, 2008, 08:35:19 AM

Title: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: WashDCWarrior on December 23, 2008, 08:35:19 AM
The commentators were talking about whether they got the shot off in time, but no one mentioned that is was a 2-point attempt.

(I think)

He had one foot behing the 3-pt line and the other in front. As he went up for the shot, he rolled back and his front foot came off the ground first. (barely)

For someone who really knows the rules, is this a 3 pointer or a 2 pointer?
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: lab_warrior on December 23, 2008, 08:37:38 AM
It was CLEARLY not gotten off in time, but anyway, had is counted, it was only a 2...he had his one foot inside the new arc.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: avid1010 on December 23, 2008, 08:37:44 AM
I don't think you have to know much about the rules to realize that was a two point shot...the fact that the announcers didn't pick up on it was a little pathetic.  Was Jason Williams wearing a helmet when he crashed?
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: ATWizJr on December 23, 2008, 08:47:34 AM
Saw the game twice on ESPNU, and many replays.  Shot was late and did not count and was clearly a two point shot.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: Ahoya06 on December 23, 2008, 09:20:41 AM
I just brought this up in a different thread before I saw this one, and agree. Even if it counted, two points, MU wins.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: Blackhat on December 23, 2008, 10:19:09 AM
The shot was a little unorthodox because he pivoted on his back foot and shot with his left foot in the air.   But I'm pretty sure it's where the shooter last establishes his foot before the shot that judges the shot worth.    So because he established position inside the ring with his left foot before the shot it's a two pointer(even though he shot it with his left foot in the air and his right foot behind the line).   
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: 79Warrior on December 23, 2008, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: avid1010 on December 23, 2008, 08:37:44 AM
I don't think you have to know much about the rules to realize that was a two point shot...the fact that the announcers didn't pick up on it was a little pathetic.  Was Jason Williams wearing a helmet when he crashed?

They were clearly an inferior announcing team.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: ecompt on December 23, 2008, 11:41:21 AM
which Jason Williams was doing the analysis last night? I haven't had a chance to watch the game on tape yet.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: Blackhat on December 23, 2008, 11:46:30 AM
the one who blew away his limo driver.   He got out.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: ecompt on December 23, 2008, 11:59:08 AM
I thought he was being retried. Why is he given air time after killing someone?
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: Blackhat on December 23, 2008, 12:00:00 PM
I was just joking.   The color guy was the awesome Dukie who trashed his body in a motorcycle accident. 
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: CTWarrior on December 23, 2008, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on December 23, 2008, 08:37:44 AM
I don't think you have to know much about the rules to realize that was a two point shot...the fact that the announcers didn't pick up on it was a little pathetic.  

It was obviously late, even without the benefit of replay and they pointed that out.  If it's obviously late, who cares if it a 2 or 3 point shot?
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: bilsu on December 23, 2008, 01:06:10 PM
They did mention that it would have been a two point shot, if it was ruled good. They were confident from the start that the shot was late.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: mu_hilltopper on December 23, 2008, 02:50:51 PM
If I was Buzz .. I'd go up to the ref and tell him to let the (2 point) shot count. 

That was a hell of a shot.
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: MU B2002 on December 23, 2008, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on December 23, 2008, 02:50:51 PM
If I was Buzz .. I'd go up to the ref and tell him to let the (2 point) shot count. 

That was a hell of a shot.

But then we wouldn't cover?!   ;)
Title: Re: NC State's Last .4 Second Shot
Post by: MUEng92 on December 23, 2008, 04:04:39 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 23, 2008, 12:13:24 PM
It was obviously late, even without the benefit of replay and they pointed that out.  If it's obviously late, who cares if it a 2 or 3 point shot?

If we didn't discuss things that don't matter, we wouldn't have bulletin boards or 3/4 of sports talk radio.

I had to stop and think about whether that would have been a 2 or a 3 also, even though it was obviously after the buzzer.  I assumed someone would bring it up here.
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