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Title: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: AlumKCof93 on November 19, 2008, 09:26:38 AM
Devendorf!

Syracuse's Devendorf investigated in alleged assault of female student
Nov. 18, 2008
CBSSports.com wire reports   

     

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- A 20-year-old Syracuse student asked police to arrest Orange basketball player Eric Devendorf earlier this month after she said he hit her with a closed fist, Syracuse police said Tuesday.

Police submitted a summons application seeking the arrest of Devendorf, a junior guard, according to police spokesman Tom Connellan.

Devendorf was not arrested, and in a news release the Onondaga County District Attorney's Office said the matter had been referred to the Syracuse University Judicial Affairs Office. The county said any further decision by the district attorney's office would be deferred pending the outcome of the university proceedings.

"The university is handling that," coach Jim Boeheim said Tuesday night. "When they're done with it, we'll see where we are and we'll respond to it."

Devendorf declined comment after Syracuse beat Richmond 76-71 on Tuesday night.

Kimberly Smith said she was driving her car at about 3 a.m. in the city on Nov. 1 when several people began kicking the vehicle, according to police.

Smith told police when she got out of the car to get the people to stop, Devendorf walked up to Smith with a closed fist and struck her. Devendorf then shouted obscenities and told her to get back in the car, according to Connellan.

Police first became aware of the altercation when they were called on a harassment complaint later that morning. Connellan said university public safety officers also were at the scene.

Smith told police she couldn't identify the people kicking her car but could identify Devendorf because she knows him, Connellan said.


Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: JSwarriors08 on November 19, 2008, 09:59:25 AM
Smells like good ole' Syracuse class
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be
Post by: TallTitan34 on November 19, 2008, 10:01:32 AM
Yes!  From the title of your post I was going to jokingly say Devendorf but it really is about him.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: muwarrior87 on November 19, 2008, 10:24:32 AM
sounds like some good fuel for when they come here in March.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: spartan3186 on November 19, 2008, 10:27:53 AM
Assuming he's playing and not suspended
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: reinko on November 19, 2008, 10:34:26 AM
This is about the point some one on the board gets huffy and says he innocent until proven guilty, just look what happened with the Duke lax team.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: muwarrior87 on November 19, 2008, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: spartan3186 on November 19, 2008, 10:27:53 AM
Assuming he's playing and not suspended

He's still a scholarship player. Suspended or playing, listen for the chants and look for signs.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: JSwarriors08 on November 19, 2008, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on November 19, 2008, 10:37:30 AM
He's still a scholarship player. Suspended or playing, listen for the chants and look for signs.


Agreed.  That'll be a lot of fun.  Assuming it's not a crappy repeat of the january '07 game.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 19, 2008, 10:40:49 AM
Quote from: reinko on November 19, 2008, 10:34:26 AM
This is about the point some one on the board gets huffy and says he innocent until proven guilty, just look what happened with the Duke lax team.

This is America... he is innocent until proven guilty... just look what happened to the Duke LAX team.

P.S. I am HUFFY!
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Wade for President on November 19, 2008, 11:16:26 AM
He is sooooooooo WT, it's not even funny.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Ahoya06 on November 19, 2008, 11:32:12 AM
He's only a junior? I thought he's been there like a million years...
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on November 19, 2008, 11:40:51 AM
he got a medical redshirt because he tore his ACL like ten games into last season.  so this his his fourth season, but only third year of eligibility.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Gwaki on November 19, 2008, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: Ahoya06 on November 19, 2008, 11:32:12 AM
He's only a junior? I thought he's been there like a million years...

I wouldn't be talking
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: JSwarriors08 on November 19, 2008, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Wade for President on November 19, 2008, 11:16:26 AM
He is sooooooooo WT, it's not even funny.

+1
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: muwarrior87 on November 19, 2008, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: Gwaki on November 19, 2008, 11:50:55 AM
I wouldn't be talking

+1 got you there Ahoya
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: MUfan12 on November 19, 2008, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: Gwaki on November 19, 2008, 11:50:55 AM
I wouldn't be talking

BAAAAZIIIIING! Fair play to you sir.

Got ya on that one, Gramps.  :D
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: bilsu on November 19, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
The story sounds made up to me. How many woman would get out of a car to confront guys kicking her car?
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Ahoya06 on November 19, 2008, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: Gwaki on November 19, 2008, 11:50:55 AM
I wouldn't be talking

Wow, you just made me laugh very loudly in the middle of my office. You do raise a valid point...

(He's referring to my taking what ended up being 4 years off after my Soph. year, then coming back to finish)
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: NavinRJohnson on November 19, 2008, 03:01:50 PM
My BS detector hasn't been this active since that chick in Pittsburgh was robbed at the ATM and had the backwards B 'carved' in her face.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Gwaki on November 19, 2008, 03:17:59 PM
can we get a pic of this girl.  Doenst matter if it ends up not being true.  a big head would be great
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: chapman on November 19, 2008, 04:19:52 PM
The first thing that came to mind when I read the thread title was Devendorf.  Surprise, surprise it is him.  Boeheim would never consider doing something about it.  If anything, it gives some more ammunition to go along with the "trailer trash" chant from a couple years ago.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: TallTitan34 on December 10, 2008, 06:30:50 PM
Cuse board wants to suspend him the rest of the academic year!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3760958 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3760958)
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: reinko on December 10, 2008, 06:44:12 PM
As Brett Myers would say:

"Boom, outta here"
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be
Post by: rugbydrummer on December 10, 2008, 06:45:26 PM
Quote from: bilsu on November 19, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
The story sounds made up to me. How many woman would get out of a car to confront guys kicking her car?


you're right, next time she should just sit there and be seen and not heard . . .


Wouldn't you confront those same hoodlums?

Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: ecompt on December 10, 2008, 07:28:15 PM
Is that the Carmelo Anthony academic year (which consisted of six credits) or the student body academic year?
Whatever. If it happened at UW the player in question would be suspended from one practice and the girl would be paid off to go away.
Title: Syracuse Could have trouble
Post by: robmufan on December 10, 2008, 10:05:43 PM
I always knew there was something wrong with this kid!  Sorry if this was posted already...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3760958 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3760958)


Edit: sorry, im a premature poster...it gets me every time!
Title: Devendorf in Big Trouble
Post by: Warrior Forever on December 11, 2008, 06:40:20 AM
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- A Syracuse University judicial hearing board has ruled that starting guard Eric Devendorf violated the Student Code of Conduct after allegedly hitting a female student in the face.

The board recommended that Devendorf, a 6-foot-4 junior, be suspended for the remainder of the academic year. He is expected to appeal the decision.

"Any player can still play while the case is under appeal," Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim told ESPN.com on Wednesday, adding he will allow Devendorf to do just that (Syracuse's next game is Saturday against Long Beach State).

The appeals process could take anywhere from 15 to 20 days, Boeheim said.

"He's not going to be treated any differently" during that period, the coach said.

Richard Kesnig, a lawyer who represents the female student, said the university faxed him the decision late Wednesday afternoon.

Devendorf is the third-leading scorer for the Orange (No. 16 ESPN/USA Today, No. 13 AP), averaging 14.1 points and 3.1 assists. He missed most of last season with a torn knee ligament.

Boeheim said he wouldn't have any further comment on Devendorf's case until it is resolved.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: 🏀 on December 11, 2008, 08:35:06 AM
That a boy, Jimmy. You're player was clearly in the wrong and will have some misconduct violates against him. So instead of being a man and releasing the player from the team, keep playing him.

Makes Huggy Bear look like a mid-level saint.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: reinko on December 11, 2008, 09:10:36 AM
Obviously her face was at fault in getting in front of his face.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 10:09:58 AM
In his defense, no one saw the incident and there was no evidence that proved her story.  Not saying he didn't do it, but lets not forget the potential craziness of females. 
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: reinko on December 11, 2008, 10:18:20 AM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 10:09:58 AM
In his defense, no one saw the incident and there was no evidence that proved her story.  Not saying he didn't do it, but lets not forget the potential craziness of females. 

Wow.  Sweet female blast.  That post is not sexist at all.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: reinko on December 11, 2008, 10:18:20 AM
Wow.  Sweet female blast.  That post is not sexist at all.

Call them how I see them my boy.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: muwarrior87 on December 11, 2008, 07:57:50 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 11:12:41 AM
Call them how I see them my boy.

sweeping generalizations like that are not needed
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: nola03 on December 11, 2008, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on December 11, 2008, 07:57:50 PM
sweeping generalizations like that are not needed

There's a point where sweeping generalization turns into opinion based on experience. I think he's firmly speaking to the latter occurrence. jmo.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on December 11, 2008, 07:57:50 PM
sweeping generalizations like that are not needed

And saying Devendorf hit this girl and calling him a punk isn't a sweeping generalization???  Again, not saying he didn't do it or that he isn't a complete punk, but it is possible that this girl is crazy.  You know, your dating this girl, you sleep with her best friend, she gets mad, you tell her she was nothing more than playtime, and she tells everyone you hit her....I've seen it a thousand times.

I mean really, how many times does a girl get smacked at a frat party and no one sees it? 
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: muwarrior87 on December 11, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
a THOUSAND? losing some credibility there...not that you have much to begin with.  There are past instances where Devendorf has proven he is a "punk".  This is the first time you have ever heard anything about this girl and you are immediately saying it's a bs story made up to get back at him for something he did.  Let's wait until the facts come out completely on it before you start throwing around thoughts that this couldn't have happened.  I'm not going to blast Devendorf for his possible wrongdoings in this alleged incident but lets not write off what this girl is saying just because you've "seen this a thousand times"

EDIT: and if it does come out that this is a made up story by this girl, I would not bring it up in chants a previously stated. That only happens if there is some clout to this, whether he's on the bench or not.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Pardner on December 11, 2008, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 10:09:58 AM
In his defense, no one saw the incident and there was no evidence that proved her story.  Not saying he didn't do it, but lets not forget the potential craziness of females. 

ahem...there was a university judicial hearing and a verdict was determined, after all....I am assuming there was "some evidence to prove her story" and not a lot of evidence to prove that "he didn't do it".   Of course, he has a right to appeal.  

So, what evidence was presented at the hearing to show that he is worthy to play for and attend Syracuse after punching her in the face?
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: 🏀 on December 12, 2008, 07:31:30 AM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 09:33:16 PM
....I've seen it a thousand times.


+1
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be
Post by: MilWarrior on December 12, 2008, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on December 11, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
a THOUSAND? losing some credibility there...not that you have much to begin with.  There are past instances where Devendorf has proven he is a "punk".  This is the first time you have ever heard anything about this girl and you are immediately saying it's a bs story made up to get back at him for something he did.  Let's wait until the facts come out completely on it before you start throwing around thoughts that this couldn't have happened.  I'm not going to blast Devendorf for his possible wrongdoings in this alleged incident but lets not write off what this girl is saying just because you've "seen this a thousand times"

EDIT: and if it does come out that this is a made up story by this girl, I would not bring it up in chants a previously stated. That only happens if there is some clout to this, whether he's on the bench or not.

Chill out.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on December 12, 2008, 08:39:13 AM
There wasn't even enough evidence to press charges, and yet a panel of 5 students, none of whom are even law students FYI, somehow found enough evidence to suspend him for an academic year?  sorry, i don't like the guy, but I'd have to say that the panel is guilty of the same thing as most of you; presumed guilt because of who he is and what he looks like.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: DoubleMU0609 on December 12, 2008, 09:28:01 AM
First of all, who is to say that there weren't criminal charges pressed because 1. the girl didn't want that to happen and refused to testify or, 2. the university intervened and asked the DA to allow them to take care of it in house. 

Second, I don't exactly follow your argument that because the 5 students on the review board aren't law students their determination that this happened and he deserves to be suspended isn't valid.  The jury pool in every criminal case in the country is made up of average everyday citizens.  In fact, a lot of times lawyers in the jury pool get removed by one of the parties because it's easier to profile them (i.e. DA will use peremptory strike on defense attorney).  I would think that 5 peers on a college campus would be less inclined to suspend a basketball player for a year; they (or at least their friends pressuring them) want to see the best basketball team take the floor. 
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 12, 2008, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on December 11, 2008, 09:38:30 PM
a THOUSAND? losing some credibility there...not that you have much to begin with.  There are past instances where Devendorf has proven he is a "punk".  This is the first time you have ever heard anything about this girl and you are immediately saying it's a bs story made up to get back at him for something he did.  Let's wait until the facts come out completely on it before you start throwing around thoughts that this couldn't have happened.  I'm not going to blast Devendorf for his possible wrongdoings in this alleged incident but lets not write off what this girl is saying just because you've "seen this a thousand times"

EDIT: and if it does come out that this is a made up story by this girl, I would not bring it up in chants a previously stated. That only happens if there is some clout to this, whether he's on the bench or not.

Gosh, what can I do to gain credibility in the world of MUwarrior87?  Please tell! 

If you would read my posts, all I said was there is a chance she's full of it.....if you can't pick up on the sarcasm because its not in blue then you need a weekend away.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: dsfire on December 12, 2008, 10:05:39 AM
Apparently the local DA handed the case off to the university, per Syracuse's official statement:
QuoteIn this case, the Onondaga District Attorney's Office indicated that it believed the proper forum in which this matter should be addressed was the University Judicial System.

Subsequently, the matter proceeded through the University Judicial System and was heard by a panel of five students who considered the presentations of the complainant and the respondent, and then rendered a decision based on the evidence they reviewed and testimony they heard.

Also, Devendorf hasn't denied punching her - his argument was self defense.  Can read all you can stomach at http://www.9wsyr.com/mostpopular/story/Boeheim-Suspending-Devendorf-too-harsh/FI9QtlupykKuWeGzmj4oLg.cspx


edit: Seems there are a lot of different versions of the story going around.  There's a quote from Smith's lawyer (interspersed among Boheim chatter) saying that she never accused Devendorf of punching here at http://blog.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2008/12/syracuse_university_coach_jim.html.  Devendorf's lawyer also appears to be pulling out all of the stops in attempting to smear her side of the story.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be
Post by: rugbydrummer on December 12, 2008, 05:00:33 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 11, 2008, 09:33:16 PM
And saying Devendorf hit this girl and calling him a punk isn't a sweeping generalization???  Again, not saying he didn't do it or that he isn't a complete punk, but it is possible that this girl is crazy.  You know, your dating this girl, you sleep with her best friend, she gets mad, you tell her she was nothing more than playtime, and she tells everyone you hit her....I've seen it a thousand times.

I mean really, how many times does a girl get smacked at a frat party and no one sees it? 


So what you're saying is... people in power are entitled to treat other USE people like dirt?  I'm pretty sure any reasonable person would be upset to hear that he or she has been cheated on with his or her best friend.  Or maybe you're into that?

As for crazy females? yes, crazy enough to let people like you get away with this blatantly offensive crap.  Let me know when you figure out that people are not just means to an end.
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be . .
Post by: Steak on December 13, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
(http://steako.250free.com/Devendorf1.jpg)
Title: Question.
Post by: Steak on December 13, 2008, 11:11:59 AM
(http://steako.250free.com/Devendorf%202.jpg)
Title: Answer.
Post by: Steak on December 13, 2008, 11:12:35 AM
SMACK!

(http://steako.250free.com/Devendorf%203.jpg)
Title: Re: If he looks like a punk, plays like a punk and acts like a punk, he must be
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 13, 2008, 03:30:27 PM
Quote from: rugbydrummer on December 12, 2008, 05:00:33 PM

So what you're saying is... people in power are entitled to treat other USE people like dirt?  I'm pretty sure any reasonable person would be upset to hear that he or she has been cheated on with his or her best friend.  Or maybe you're into that?

As for crazy females? yes, crazy enough to let people like you get away with this blatantly offensive crap.  Let me know when you figure out that people are not just means to an end.

Oh, I like the way you cross out lines and insert others, great way to give extra meaning to your post....so creative.  Forget it, it was a joke, good grief.  Reread all my posts, just saying its a possibility.
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