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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on October 27, 2008, 02:17:11 PM

Title: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on October 27, 2008, 02:17:11 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3667137

If we are still indeed pursuing another guard for 2009, might we try to make another play for Abdul Gaddy?
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 27, 2008, 02:21:15 PM
Which only shows to go ya, kids want to play for the coach and not necessarily for the school.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: Mufflers on October 27, 2008, 02:24:31 PM
Yes, coaches don't want to play for kids.

Exactly.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on October 27, 2008, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: The General on October 27, 2008, 02:17:11 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3667137

If we are still indeed pursuing another guard for 2009, might we try to make another play for Abdul Gaddy?

He is only considering UCLA and Washington with UCLA as the more likely choice.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: jutaw22mu on October 27, 2008, 03:10:02 PM
For old times sake, Crean to Arizona!!!!!!
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: 79Warrior on October 27, 2008, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 27, 2008, 02:21:15 PM
Which only shows to go ya, kids want to play for the coach and not necessarily for the school.

It should come as no suprise. It is all about the coach. That is hardly a revelation.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: Cooby Snacks on October 27, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: jutaw22mu on October 27, 2008, 03:10:02 PM
For old times sake, Crean to Arizona!!!!!!

"I grew up an Arizona fan.  In fact, one of my earliest memories of basketball was that 1997 national championship team with Miles Simon and Mike Bibby.  I wrote a letter to Lute Olson and he sent me a signed program."
-Arizona Head Coach Tom Crean
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 27, 2008, 03:52:08 PM
T-Cubed has already peed himself by taking his current gig. But, chances are Buzz has also sent off a postcard or two to Tucson.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: LastWarrior on October 27, 2008, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: jutaw22mu on October 27, 2008, 03:10:02 PM
For old times sake, Crean to Arizona!!!!!!

Allow me to save Katz some ink...

"Buzz Williams to Arizona"
Title: Arizona Hurting
Post by: nyg on October 27, 2008, 05:59:27 PM
Thought it was bad when TC left and we lost Taylor and Williams.  Arizona just lost three recruits: Abdul Gaddy, Solomon Hill and Mike Moser, all highly, highly ranked studs.  They will also probably lose Chase Budinger to NBA next year.  Ouch. 
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: Tugg Speedman on October 27, 2008, 08:24:52 PM
AZ and IU should play in 2009 to settle the question of which program is a bigger mess.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: 77ncaachamps on October 27, 2008, 10:49:06 PM
Oh man...TC to Zona is a dream: "Now introducing Arizona's new coach....Tan Cream!"

But maybe Zona should've held onto Pastner. Or maybe Pastner saw the writing on the board.

It's going to be interesting how this big elite program vacancy starts the coaching dominoes this season and/or begins a vacuum suck of prospects from the West.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: MUinCO on October 28, 2008, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on October 27, 2008, 08:24:52 PM
AZ and IU should play in 2009 to settle the question of which program is a bigger mess.

Everyone loves to watch a train wreck.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: PJDunn on October 28, 2008, 10:59:13 AM
They would be in a lot better shape if they could've kept KO. 
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: THEGYMBAR on October 28, 2008, 11:14:59 AM
I disagree that kids pick coaches and not schools. There are certain coaches that put kids in NBA and they get a real following. Lute was one of those guys. But, you can count the Lute's on two hands in college ball.

Top players go where they have the best chance to get paid to play at some point. Look at UW, if Ryan left today they would not lose a player or a recruit. Kids go to UW because they want to play in Madison.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: TallTitan34 on October 28, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: THEGYMBAR on October 28, 2008, 11:14:59 AM
I disagree that kids pick coaches and not schools. There are certain coaches that put kids in NBA and they get a real following.

It just depends on the kid.  Nick Williams followed Crean to Indiana.  Michael Beasley stayed at Kansas State instead of following Huggy Bear to West Virginia.  All depends on the kid.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: bma725 on October 28, 2008, 12:46:07 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 28, 2008, 12:25:59 PM
It just depends on the kid.  Nick Williams followed Crean to Indiana.  Michael Beasley stayed at Kansas State instead of following Huggy Bear to West Virginia.  All depends on the kid.

Beasley's decision was coach based.  He originally picked UNC-Charlotte because of assistant coach Dalonte Hill.  When Huggins hired Hill at KSU, Beasley switched to KSU.  When Huggins left KSU, Hill stayed at KSU under Frank Martin, so Beasley stayed at KSU.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: THEGYMBAR on October 28, 2008, 03:43:11 PM
I agree that it depends on the kid. These kids pick a school for a ton of stupid reasons. My point was there a hundred reasons why kids pick schools and the coach is only part of the decision in most cases. If I was 18 year old kid I pick it on the best place to get laid, but that's me.
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: Ready2Fly on October 28, 2008, 03:56:29 PM
Quote from: THEGYMBAR on October 28, 2008, 03:43:11 PM
I agree that it depends on the kid. These kids pick a school for a ton of stupid reasons. My point was there a hundred reasons why kids pick schools and the coach is only part of the decision in most cases. If I was 18 year old kid I pick it on the best place to get laid, but that's me.

Bob Jones University?
Title: Re: The AZ Meltdown Continues: All Recruits Back Out
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on October 28, 2008, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: THEGYMBAR on October 28, 2008, 03:43:11 PM
I agree that it depends on the kid. These kids pick a school for a ton of stupid reasons. My point was there a hundred reasons why kids pick schools and the coach is only part of the decision in most cases. If I was 18 year old kid I pick it on the best place to get laid, but that's me.

I agree with this 100%.

Recruiting is an imperfect art.

Some coaches certainly do better at it than others, but let's just be honest that a coach may do everything right with a kid and still lose him to another school for some reason only known to the kid.

You cannot give a coach a free pass for missing on recruits, however you cannot solely hold a head coach responsible if he misses on a few recruits.



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