MU gets commitment from Roseboro
By Todd Rosiak of the Journal Sentinel
Oct. 25, 2008 3:33 p.m. | The Marquette Golden Eagles received a commitment this afternoon from Brett Roseboro, a 6-foot-9 1/2, 220-pound forward from Quakertown, Pa.
Roseboro is the fifth member of MU's 2009-'10 recruiting class, joining forwards Jeronne Maymon and Erik Williams and guards Junior Cadougan and Dwight Buycks.
Projected as a face-up power forward for the Golden Eagles, Roseboro has experienced a meteoric rise over the past month or so, using strong performances in a couple of late-summer tournaments to garner interest from high-major schools such as Louisville, Villanova, St. John's, Rutgers, West Virgina, St. John's and Maryland.
MU has been involved with Roseboro for about three weeks. Roseboro is currently on his official visit, and will attend 'Marquette Madness' later this evening.
"Basically just the institution, the academics, the basketball," said Roseboro when asked why he chose MU. "Coach (Buzz) Williams really showed that he cared, and that he would be here for me all the years that I was here, and he's going to try and take me to where I want to go."
Why we signed him, no idea? Any details would be appreciated...
Sounds interesting. I'm glad we got another big guy but I'm kind of surprised that we didn't wait to see if Snaer or Colvin committed. Any more info on Roseboro?
This team needs size. As great as Snaer or Colvin would look in a MU uniform, size was a more pressing need.
Definitely. If he is a decent low post scorer it would really help a lot.
This seems to be really out of the blue. The timing is also strange and that there are still '09 prospects out there. Hopefully Buzz has answers and didn't just dish out a scholarship.
He is a 6-9 lefty who has really come on strong this past summer. Suppossedly has good skills, good hands and good footwork. Looks like a very solid addition.
So... are we done?
Quote from: HoopDreams on October 25, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
This seems to be really out of the blue. The timing is also strange and that there are still '09 prospects out there. Hopefully Buzz has answers and didn't just dish out a scholarship.
Not really out of the blue, he's been mentioned on the other board for awhile. He played in the same IS8 AAU tournament as Maymon and did really well. From the Providence board a few weeks ago:
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After some scintillating performances in the NYC IS8 Fall League, suddenly Roseboro has caught the attention of a slew of high- major college basketball programs.
"Oh yeah, it's been crazy around here in the past few weeks," said Keeler. "Temple, Villanova, St. John's, Marquette, Providence, Rutgers, West Virginia, Penn State, and Maryland have all been in so see Brett workout.
"Coach (Keith) Booth was up from Maryland. We had a call from Louisville, and now they are interested. Brett's Mom is trying to slow down the process a bit, because everything is happening so fast. I think Brett is going to take a visit to Marquette, that's pretty much the only thing he has scheduled at the moment."
Quote from: mwbauer7 on October 25, 2008, 04:15:43 PM
So... are we done?
If Snaer or Wilson want to commit, they'll find a spot for them.
I could not find Roseboro on any sites, such as Rivals or Scout. Either I did a bad search or this guy is WAY off the radar. I guess this means no Snaer, Wilson, Colvin or others. Unless something else is in the works, so????? Maybe someone else will depart if Wilson or Snaer actually want to come. Buzz must believe Buycks is the shooting guard for next year and is the quality JUCO as advertised. Now MU will have three big men around/over 6 10 next year, PF in Maymon, SF in Williams, PG in Cadugan, but may need another shooting guard. Just another surprise here.
not an impressive list of recruiting schools...
http://caainsider.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4155&Itemid=101
Brett Roseboro (2009, 6-9 PF/C)
Brett showed to be a talented big man. He is quite agile and nimble for his size. His footwork is very good and he has several moves. Brett had a nice short post turn and banked home a shot. He had a good up and under move on one play. Brett spun towards the left on another play. He showed good hands too. He played quite well in this victory for Quakertown.
Quote from: mufanatic on October 25, 2008, 03:58:48 PM
This team needs size. As great as Snaer or Colvin would look in a MU uniform, size was a more pressing need.
Size they do need.
But I'm sure more fans would like a low post 5 rather then a face up 4.
6 months ago, off the radar. A UWM prospect, if you will. Improved and blew up in a New York area league, and was suddenly on a whole lot of BEast radars. A solid get that gives us depth and theoretically versatility up front. I mean seriously, a 6-9 4/5 with both face the basket and post up skills? Obviously he has room to improve, but under TC, he would have been touted as the solution to our size problems.
Must have been something else in NY. Really something. Here's a kid from Quakerstown, Pa., not ranked in any scouting services, has schools such as Maine, Rider and Quinnipac just looking at him, to taking a full ride at a Big East Conference school. Like finding a mint 65 Corvette in some deceased farmer's barn.
Quote from: bma725 on October 25, 2008, 04:29:47 PM
If Snaer or Wilson want to commit, they'll find a spot for them.
let's hope they do and we do...
I think its safe to assume that both Snaer and Wilson have let Buzz know they're going elsewhere.
Quote from: nola03 on October 25, 2008, 05:01:41 PM
Size they do need.
But I'm sure more fans would like a low post 5 rather then a face up 4.
We have those in Otule and McMorrow. We needed a big 4.
Quote from: TVDirector on October 25, 2008, 04:43:23 PM
not an impressive list of recruiting schools...
http://caainsider.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4155&Itemid=101
Brett Roseboro (2009, 6-9 PF/C)
Brett showed to be a talented big man. He is quite agile and nimble for his size. His footwork is very good and he has several moves. Brett had a nice short post turn and banked home a shot. He had a good up and under move on one play. Brett spun towards the left on another play. He showed good hands too. He played quite well in this victory for Quakertown.
Yes that was the list early this year. Its been more like this:
"After some scintillating performances in the NYC IS8 Fall League, suddenly Roseboro has caught the attention of a slew of high- major college basketball programs.
"Oh yeah, it's been crazy around here in the past few weeks," said Keeler. "Temple, Villanova, St. John's, Marquette, Providence, Rutgers, West Virginia, Penn State, and Maryland have all been in so see Brett workout.
"Coach (Keith) Booth was up from Maryland. We had a call from Louisville, and now they are interested. Brett's Mom is trying to slow down the process a bit, because everything is happening so fast. I think Brett is going to take a visit to Marquette, that's pretty much the only thing he has scheduled at the moment."
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=3200541
Onmilwaukee added this:
The Buzz on Marquette: The Marquette Golden Eagles were picked sixth in a pre-season poll of Big East coaches. That's not exactly cause for celebration or alarm with a first-year coach in one of the tougher leagues in the country.
Williams and the Golden Eagles received an oral commitment from Brett Roseboro, a 6-foot-10-icn, 220-pound forward from Quakertown, Pa. Roseboro joins the 2009-'10 recruiting class that includes forwards Jeronne Maymon and Erik Williams and guards Junior Cadougan and Dwight Buycks.
Forward Trevor Mbakwe, who left Marquette this summer, apparently has accepted a scholarship from Minnesota for next season. Initial rumors had him following Tom Crean to Indiana, but those were wrong. Mbakwe, who is from the Minneapolis area, will have two years of eligibility.
Marquette point guard Dominic James is an intern at 540 ESPN.
http://www.onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/scorecard102008.html (http://www.onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/scorecard102008.html)
Quote from: mviale on October 25, 2008, 05:45:12 PM
Onmilwaukee added this:
Marquette point guard Dominic James is an intern at 540 ESPN. [/b]
http://www.onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/scorecard102008.html (http://www.onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/scorecard102008.html)
Are you saying DJ leaked it? I don't understand the connection.
Quote from: mufanatic on October 25, 2008, 05:39:42 PM
We have those in Otule and McMorrow. We needed a big 4.
Forgive my skepticism and I admire your deep optimism.
Cool - Scholarship table updated:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Quote from: nola03 on October 25, 2008, 06:18:49 PM
Forgive my skepticism and I admire your deep optimism.
You have to admit that next year we will have two players 6'10-7'0 and before this signing we didn't have anyone who is 6'8 or 6'9. Unless hazel is, i've heard him listed all over the place.
Quote from: RawdogDX on October 25, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
You have to admit that next year we will have two players 6'10-7'0 and before this signing we didn't have anyone who is 6'8 or 6'9. Unless hazel is, i've heard him listed all over the place.
Hazel is about 6'7.
I agree with you Rawdog, next year MU will have McMorrow at 7'0, Otule at 6'10 and now Roseboro at 6'9. Their size alone will be a welcomed addition.
Nola, these guys will definitely need to be developed, but that's now up to the staff. But you can't develop bigs, if you don't have any.
One of the problems I had with Crean is that he didn't bring in enough developmental bigs. I thought him and his staff did a very good job turning Barro, a kid that was newer to the country and didn't play HS basketball, into a serviceable player.
Quote from: RJax55 on October 25, 2008, 07:25:50 PM
Nola, these guys will definitely need to be developed, but that's now up to the staff. But you can't develop bigs, if you don't have any.
One of the problems I had with Crean is that he didn't bring in enough developmental bigs.
I'm not ignoring Otule or McMorrow. I just think it's deeply optimistic to label one or both as a post option before either has played a minute of college ball -- especially when considering the time it takes for a big to develop and the lack of years both have in the organized game.
Building on that, and including rjax's last point, my initial response meant to convey that more fans would probably like to see another developmental option at the 5 rather then considering that position covered and taking a commitment at other positions.
The only time you ignore a position of need is if a special talent is available, e.g. Snaer or Wilson. Otherwise, it's sometimes best to grab a quantity and let the chips fall where they may (as we see in the case of Bo Ryan and his stable of 5 spot prospects).
I found a site with a picture of this kid 6'9"-6'10" and still growing. It seems Buzz wants to get bigger and has starting next year. Snaer would have been nice in a MU uniform, Buzz may have different plans.
Watching Otule tonight he may be closer to a good amount of minutes than some think.
http://www.caainsider.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4155&Itemid=101
Nola-your wine cooler ever half full?
In case ya'll haven't seen this...
http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=867869 (http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=867869)
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Roseboro goes Big East
Maurice Wingate
NYCHoops.net Publisher
Before playing in the iS8/Nike Tip-Off Classic in South Jamaica, NY, Brett Roseboro was an unknown but talented 6-foot-10 forward from Pennsylvania but after an impressive performance, it prompted a feature story in NYCHoops.net.
When asked why he came to New York, Rosenboro said, "I came here to hopefully get some more exposure and some more offers. Roseboro would get his wish because soon after, the senior from Quakertown High School was the talk of the town. "After that first game in the iS8, they all came at me so fast." However, after taking a few visits, Rosenboro called NYC Hoops on Saturday afternoon with some good news, saying, "I just called to let you know that today I committed to Marquette."
Roseboro played in the iS8 with the Lehigh Valley Elite Heat, coached by Derrick Mims. In their first game the Elite Heat played against the Juice All-stars and handed them their only defeat. In that game Rosenboro played against Maryland commit James Padgett and more than held his own, displaying a wide array of talent both post-up and from the perimeter. Roseboro also played against, Jeronne Maymon in the iS8. Ironically, Maymon will soon be Roseboro's teammate at Marquette
According to Roseboro, he received a litany of inquiries from top programs such as Marquette, Maryland, St. John's, Temple, Providence and Rutgers. After taking a few visits however, Rosenboro says, "After being on campus and seeing what Marquette was about, I decided to go with Marquette.
While Roseboro received a lot of interest after the iS8 he said, "Marquette came at me first and hardest.
Roseboro went on to say, "Marquette is passionate about basketball and said they need I guy like me. They said that they had guards and big men but needed a face-up four man who could be an offensive threat."
The senior forward from Quakertown High School in PA, who is still on campus at Marquette with his mother, decided Saturday after conferring with his parents that, "This is where I wanna be." Roseboro then notified the assistant coaches and the head coach (Buzz Williams) of his decision.
I am sure Jeronne gave the thumbs up for this kid.
so, is this kid going to more like a Grimm, or more like a Harangoatee?
regardless, if Roseboro actually said 'litany of inquiries', then we got us a scholar-athlete!
trusting Buzz on this one!
go mu.
To often under Crean the no name teams on our non-conference schedule would have better bigmen than our team. Roseboro seems like the kind of player that slips though the cracks and ends up being a very good player on one of these teams. Although I would have loved to have Snaer, Wilson or Colvin in that order, I thought we would probably end up with the Serbian from North Carolina. In my mind I thought because of his size he was more important to our team needs. If Roseboro is a better prospect than the Serbian than I am very happy with this commitment. I have no idea if either of them are any good, but, I have to believe he would not waste a scholarship on a player without potential.
Bilsu,
Agreed on all fronts.
I don't see any extremely talented big men knocking down our doors. The one thing I really like about about Otule, McMorrow and now Roseboro is that they all had huge growth spurts recently, all three have good footwork, soft hands and skills that provide very high ceilings. We will take our lumps with them early ono but my guess is that if they are coached appropriately, they could be very good in 2 to 3 years. And definitely better than any big men we have had here in quite awhile. Add them to some extremely talented players in Junior, Maymon and Williams and we actually have a chance at a very good and very well rounded team.
Three point shooting will still be a huge issue
Quote from: TVDirector on October 26, 2008, 08:30:33 AM
regardless, if Roseboro actually said 'litany of inquiries', then we got us a scholar-athlete!
Good point. Plus it sounds like he's a player.
I think we have ourselves someone who wants to be here and who we want. That's a win-win.
And I'm sure Maymon was asked about his opinion on this kid.
Quote from: ATWizJr on October 25, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
Nola-your wine cooler ever half full?
The joke is always funnier when rooted in truth. If anything, my rep has been one of a person whose wine cooler is too full and overflowing. ;)
There's nothing remotely negative in stating: a) labeling a center prospect a legit post option before they play is optimistic; b) it takes big men longer to develop; and, c) fans would like to see another developmental option at the 5 spot.
It's early days in getting to know Roseboro and no MU fan really has a good idea as to what he could bring to the table but I'm sure the more tidbits leak out, the more people will be impressed by his commitment.
I see the need for another 5 but I don't see the need for another 5 who is raw being piggybacked on top of Otule and McMorrow. A little spacing amongst the bigs is a good thing. Buzz is playing the hand that was dealt to him and I feel is playing it very well. I can see him taking another big for 2010 when Otule and McMorrow are Juniors and the freshmen big doesn't have to be thrown into the fire. We had a much more pressing need at the 4 if Buzz doesn't feel like Hazel is a capable starter.
Roseboro is a PF from everything I have read.
I heard Roseboro saying he was a 3 or 4. The 3 really surprised me but 4 makes sense.
Yeah he supposedly grew 5-6" recently so he has a perimeter game. I see him as a European style big (being able to face up and hit the 15-17 ft jumper)
Well at least he is now mentioned on the Scout site. A one star.
If TC were the coach right now, I'd hate this choice as his late recruit bigs never amounted to much, but I'm willing to give Buzz and his staff time to prove that they can find talent and develop big men. I always felt like TC's obsession with guards was a ploy that guaranteed job security, and with him leaving for IU, he just needed to stay competitive long enough to move on to a school where he felt it would be easier to recruit. Having a boat load of quality guards will always allow you to be competitive, but rarely allow you to be a championship contender. Buzz seems to realize that, and if he can prove that he can develop big men he'll see more polished high school bigs willing to come to MU. I have to believe if he can develop the bigs MU has signed right now the program will be much improved from an already good product that TC left us.
Quote from: nola03 on October 26, 2008, 02:16:33 PM
It's early days in getting to know Roseboro and no MU fan really has a good idea as to what he could bring to the table but I'm sure the more tidbits leak out, the more people will be impressed by his commitment.
You are wrong NOLA. One MU alum has an idea.
I had read about Roseboro in September on the NYCHoops Rivals site, but was only looking for Maymon's results, so I didn't pay a ton of attention to Brett even though he had 27 points against James Padgett (Maryland) and Lance Stephenson.
It wasn't until someone sent me an email saying an MU alum from New York had gone to Maymon's IS8 game in late September and watched Roseboro go head to head with Jeronne that I became real aware of him. The alum has been around the NYC games for decades and has been critical of some of Crean's recruits when he's seen them at the ABCD Camp. He was not only intrigued by Roseboro, but he endorsed the idea that MU go out and offer him and 4 weeks later his wish came true.
ESPN has updated with a profile of Roseboro. They have him rated as an 86 overall and the number 69 PF in the class.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=onthetrail&recruitId=73690
Personally, I think that we need all the bigs we can get and like the signing.
"80-89: Player has the potential to start or significantly contribute as a freshman for most top national Division I programs."
" Brett Roseboro is a big bodied insider that has really come a long way in a short period of time. 9 months ago Brett was a low to mid-major Division I recruit. He had a solid summer then had a couple of big games in New York's IS8 fall league. Those performances caused many high majors to come calling. Brett is solid basketball athlete with a good body. He can bang inside and scores mostly off putbacks and dump offs. He has decent touch out to 15 feet. He has some versatility in that he play on the low block or in the high post. Defensively he does a pretty good job of clogging the lane with his big body. He is not a shotblocker but is a solid position defender. If Brett can continue to improve he can be solid contributor at Marquette and have a significant role. " from http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=briefingroom&recruitId=73690
If this seems to be the consensus on him, them I'm good with the signing.
Quote from: Kramerica on October 27, 2008, 09:43:35 AM
ESPN has updated with a profile of Roseboro. They have him rated as an 86 overall and the number 69 PF in the class.
FWIW, that ranking is the same as Jordan Williams who recently chose Maryland over Marquette and is a Scout Top 100 player and #102 on Rivals. It's ahead of Ray Turner who committed to Texas A&M over MU and was a player many wanted at MU.
A ginger...gross...
Quote from: marqptm on October 27, 2008, 11:11:19 AM
A ginger...gross...
maybe we can use that to our advantage when we play ND. they'll get confused and keep passing him the ball.
How can he be the 86th ranked player in the class but only the 69th best power forward? Unless we are misinterpreting the number 86 as it is listed as a grade.
I agree, 86 is a grade. No way is he ranked that high, he's not ranked on any recruiting site. The 69th (???) PF.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on October 27, 2008, 01:18:55 PM
How can he be the 86th ranked player in the class but only the 69th best power forward? Unless we are misinterpreting the number 86 as it is listed as a grade.
He is rated an 86 out of 100 possible points, not the 86th ranked player. His rating puts him just inside the top 300 players in the country.
Quote from: bma725 on October 27, 2008, 01:27:51 PM
He is rated an 86 out of 100 possible points, not the 86th ranked player. His rating puts him just inside the top 300 players in the country.
TOP 300 HERE WE COME!
He is a rising player, it does not matter where he is ranked now. It matters what he is 1, 2, 3 or 4 years from now. Many players who are good early do not improve much.
"80-89: Player has the potential to start or significantly contribute as a freshman for most top national Division I programs."
Who knows how valid these ratings are but he apparently played well enough to impress this scout. I'm much more optimistic after seeing this review on ESPN than what I read over the weekend.
Sometimes I could swear half the people on this site must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. I'll trust Buzz's judgment of talent over mine or anyone else on this site. He doesn't have a bad track record in his previous positions.
Quote from: marqptm on October 27, 2008, 11:11:19 AM
A ginger...gross...
+1
Gingers and fat point guards were my favorite players to make fun, now they are the future of our program...ugh
With this signing and the rest of our '09 class it seems we will be very well rounded. The only question is who will be our 3 point shooters. Are Butler, buycks, cadougan, or williams good 3 point shooters. I am asking because I don't really know.
Gingers? What/who are gingers?
Red heads... there was a South Park episode about it
Quote from: strobl2 on October 27, 2008, 06:49:53 PM
With this signing and the rest of our '09 class it seems we will be very well rounded. The only question is who will be our 3 point shooters. Are Butler, buycks, cadougan, or williams good 3 point shooters. I am asking because I don't really know.
Hayward can hit the three, I mean, doesn't he have the highest 3PT pct? And Fulce has a real smooth release as well.
Quote from: strobl2 on October 27, 2008, 06:49:53 PM
With this signing and the rest of our '09 class it seems we will be very well rounded. The only question is who will be our 3 point shooters. Are Butler, buycks, cadougan, or williams good 3 point shooters. I am asking because I don't really know.
Butler had a good percentage in JUCO, but I don't think he took many 3 pointers, so it may have been a case of the small sample size working in his favor. Of the others, Buycks is more of a slasher than 3 point shooter, Cadougan and Maymon aren't really perimeter threats at this point. Williams has good form, but doesn't take many because he's very good off the dribble and can get by most guys that are guarding him.
Quote from: reinko on October 27, 2008, 06:45:43 PM
+1
Gingers and fat point guards were my favorite players to make fun, now they are the future of our program...ugh
Don't knock Matt Bonner...he's still playing! ;)
But Khalid was out of the league quick!
Generation gap on that ginger reference. Thanks Spartan.