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Title: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 10:20:37 AM
https://twitter.com/journalsentinel/status/1525494163814367233?s=21&t=_wkwGkU-mpw81WBWyRXbUw

This sucker has started the new thread.  Have at it
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 10:27:48 AM
Local dentist caught speeding in Brookfield, WI...more to follow.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 10:38:44 AM
Local dentist caught speeding in Brookfield, WI...more to follow.

No one speeds in Brookfield, trust me.  It is an issue in downtown Milwaukee, however. McKinley in particular
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 14, 2022, 11:03:49 AM
No one speeds in Brookfield, trust me.  It is an issue in downtown Milwaukee, however. McKinley in particular

Well cars jacked by dentists usually speed in the Field.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: marqfan22 on May 14, 2022, 11:29:16 AM
I graduated late 90’s. Is Milwaukee and campus  as safe as back then?

It seems like a lot stuff going on
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: cheebs09 on May 14, 2022, 11:40:21 AM
I graduated late 90’s. Is Milwaukee and campus  as safe as back then?

It seems like a lot stuff going on

It’s interesting. Campus security hasn’t gotten a lot of attention on here.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: cheebs09 on May 14, 2022, 11:49:37 AM
Thank goodness no casualties so far. As someone who used to go out down there it’s kind of wild to think of a shooting happening there.

It will be interested to see if either were targeted or random.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 14, 2022, 12:14:22 PM
The thing that has amazed me is that I've been talking with a friends who live in the suburbs of Milwaukee,  and not a one was aware of the shootings. I don't know if that's suburban bubble effect or millennial don't party attention to the news effect
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: cheebs09 on May 14, 2022, 12:18:23 PM
The thing that has amazed me is that I've been talking with a friends who live in the suburbs of Milwaukee,  and not a one was aware of the shootings. I don't know if that's suburban bubble effect or millennial don't party attention to the news effect

I honestly think the latter. I wouldn’t have known about it if I didn’t read it on a Bucks message board. At least right away.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 12:19:49 PM
TAMU

It definitely is the talk in this suburb.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on May 14, 2022, 12:24:02 PM
The thing that has amazed me is that I've been talking with a friends who live in the suburbs of Milwaukee,  and not a one was aware of the shootings. I don't know if that's suburban bubble effect or millennial don't party attention to the news effect

I was having dinner and drinks in the Third Ward and had no idea it had happened.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 12:27:28 PM
21

Staying out pretty late, hope you took Uber! I am jealous, been a long time since I was out having cocktails after 11.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on May 14, 2022, 12:34:33 PM
21

Staying out pretty late, hope you took Uber! I am jealous, been a long time since I was out having cocktails after 11.

Live it up, Goose!
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 12:37:26 PM
21

I do not get shortchanged in that category, just my exit time is earlier. I was out after 11 after the Nova game, so I posted incorrect info.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: marqfan22 on May 14, 2022, 12:56:20 PM
The thing that has amazed me is that I've been talking with a friends who live in the suburbs of Milwaukee,  and not a one was aware of the shootings. I don't know if that's suburban bubble effect or millennial don't party attention to the news effect

It was the first line story on ESPN.com
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 01:07:46 PM
The mayor with a bold move, two day curfew for anyone under 21 at 11pm. That should do the trick.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 01:16:23 PM
The mayor with a bold move, two day curfew for anyone under 21 at 11pm. That should do the trick.

Listening to local business owners talk about it, they’re concerned with the number of weapons people are carrying while loitering downtown.  Interesting.  Talks of perimeters being set up near the entertainment districts with weapon checks and eliminating downtown parking.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2022, 01:17:13 PM
Do something!!!!!



Doing that is dumb.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 01:21:03 PM
Rico

Something has to be done. These businesses were shuttered for a long time due to the pandemic and deserve better security. For the record, there definitely is a police presence downtown on event days/nights, unfortunately if is not enough to keep bad things from happening. I am all for trying something new, just do not think a curfew is going to solve much.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 14, 2022, 01:21:09 PM
Do something!!!!!



Doing that is dumb.

Yep. Easy to critique after a hard day out on Pewaukee Lake.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 01:27:27 PM
Rico

Something has to be done. These businesses were shuttered for a long time due to the pandemic and deserve better security. For the record, there definitely is a police presence downtown on event days/nights, unfortunately if is not enough to keep bad things from happening. I am all for trying something new, just do not think a curfew is going to solve much.

Probably not.  The issues causing this are deeper than a simple curfew solving.  The original link posted has updated a few times throughout the day. 

My takeaway as always is we have a mix of socioeconomic problems combined with violent crime.  As a society, we don’t address the root issues.  We cut the top of the weed and let the roots grow bigger.  Making downtown safer without addressing those issues just shifts the crime elsewhere.

We can argue about the problem or address the causes.  The arguing gets the soundbite
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 14, 2022, 01:28:32 PM
Rico

Something has to be done. These businesses were shuttered for a long time due to the pandemic and deserve better security. For the record, there definitely is a police presence downtown on event days/nights, unfortunately if is not enough to keep bad things from happening. I am all for trying something new, just do not think a curfew is going to solve much.

You are very likely correct. But I’m not exactly sure what sure the city is supposed to do outside of screening people for firearms. Gun violence is a big problem in a lot of places. Too many firearms. Too easy to obtain. Too little regard for another person’s life. These all see to be larger problems that one city can solve.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 01:34:53 PM
Tower

Not exactly sure what is your point. If referring to my post, there were over ten shootings in MKE yesterday prior to 11pm, so I am not sure the curfew will curb much of the problem, but hope it is a start.

Also, since my Pewaukee Lake visit has been highlighted a couple of times, I made a change of plans and going to the driving range instead.I am going to focus on wedges today and possibly all the way to mid irons. The range is located in a suburban area, which I know limits my having concern for the city of Milwaukee. Again, Pewaukee Lake is off the table today and I will be returning to downtown MKE tomorrow to pick my son up for golf, followed by watching second half in Third Ward.I am not afraid of anything!!!   
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Merit Matters on May 14, 2022, 01:46:27 PM
Tower

Not exactly sure what is your point. If referring to my post, there were over ten shootings in MKE yesterday prior to 11pm, so I am not sure the curfew will curb much of the problem, but hope it is a start.

Also, since my Pewaukee Lake visit has been highlighted a couple of times, I made a change of plans and going to the driving range instead.I am going to focus on wedges today and possibly all the way to mid irons. The range is located in a suburban area, which I know limits my having concern for the city of Milwaukee. Again, Pewaukee Lake is off the table today and I will be returning to downtown MKE tomorrow to pick my son up for golf, followed by watching second half in Third Ward.I am not afraid of anything!!!
Beautiful day, enjoy working the irons. Nothing wrong with catching some fish, though. As for safety, my wife and I are always carrying, so we feel relatively safe. But we avoid problem areas if we can.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 01:55:29 PM
Merit

I do not carry and 99% of the time I feel safe in Milwaukee. That being said, I think being cautious is never bad idea. It is a beautiful day and it looks like my wife is finishing up the yard work and going to see if she wants to join me.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: jesmu84 on May 14, 2022, 02:09:17 PM
Beautiful day, enjoy working the irons. Nothing wrong with catching some fish, though. As for safety, my wife and I are always carrying, so we feel relatively safe. But we avoid problem areas if we can.

Serious question, as someone who doesn't own a gun, how does carrying in the middle of a large crowd prevent one from being shot?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: jesmu84 on May 14, 2022, 02:10:43 PM
No shootings before 11pm? No shootings by individuals > 21?

Security theater

Rico nailed it
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 02:13:49 PM
Serious question, as someone who doesn't own a gun, how does carrying in the middle of a large crowd prevent one from being shot?

It doesn’t
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Merit Matters on May 14, 2022, 02:34:25 PM
It doesn’t
If someone is shooting at me and I neutralize the threat, then it does stop them lol.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 02:52:02 PM
I have to admit, people asking questions to those who are responsible gun owners makes me chuckle.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Jockey on May 14, 2022, 02:53:15 PM
If someone is shooting at me and I neutralize the threat, then it does stop them lol.

But there were numerous shooters. How would you know who to shoot at?

Would you take time to ascertain who fired first and who is already shooting to stop the original shooter. In the 'fog of war', there is NO way for you to know. So do you just open fire until the shooting stops?

This sounds snarky, but I don't mean it that way. I am asking you a serious question - who do you shoot first?

Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Merit Matters on May 14, 2022, 02:55:34 PM
But there were numerous shooters. How would you know who to shoot at?

Would you take time to ascertain who fired first and who is already shooting to stop the original shooter. In the 'fog of war', there is NO way for you to know. So do you just open fire until the shooting stops?

This sounds snarky, but I don't mean it that way. I am asking you a serious question - who do you shoot first?
The honest answer is I am unsure what I would do. If it’s a lost cause, run for my life.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 14, 2022, 02:59:03 PM
I have to admit, people asking questions to those who are responsible gun owners makes me chuckle.

How do you know he’s “responsible?”
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 03:00:58 PM
I have to admit, people asking questions to those who are responsible gun owners makes me chuckle.

Being a responsible gun owner doesn’t prepare you for a panic event or mass shooting event like last night.  Actually, it’s laughable. 

I own three guns and have taken all the classes from hunters safety up to conceal carry.  More guns is not the answer.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: jesmu84 on May 14, 2022, 03:06:39 PM
The honest answer is I am unsure what I would do. If it’s a lost cause, run for my life.

Thank you. Jockey's scenario is what I was imagining.

Having a firearm for safety/protection when you're alone make sense.

I wasn't understanding how it would make sense in the middle of a mass shooting
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: jesmu84 on May 14, 2022, 03:07:06 PM
I have to admit, people asking questions to those who are responsible gun owners makes me chuckle.

Is it bad to ask a question when you don't understand?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 03:11:59 PM
jesmu

You had a case of the chuckles the other day and I wanted to join in on the fun.

I will add, I always think asking for clarification is the way to go. You asked a fair question and it looks like Merit provided a fair answer.

I am done chuckling.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 03:18:08 PM
No watch party at the Deer District tomorrow. My nephew’s company handles the audio, visual and stages at the DD and I know they had a crazy time last night. Hopefully he will be back handling watch parties in the future.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: BM1090 on May 14, 2022, 03:18:57 PM
Watch party canceled for tomorrow. Probably the right call.

We were sitting outside in the Mecca beer garden for the game last night. People came stampeding in our direction. Everyone thought it was an active shooter situation in the plaza and the metal gates falling repeatedly sounded like shots during the hysteria. Unfortunately, everyone ended up running towards third street but luckily by that point the situation was somewhat under control. Scary couple of minutes. Relieved nobody was hurt in the rush out of there. The alley between Uncle Bucks and Mecca where the Beer Garden is located can be a bottleneck.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 03:21:20 PM
BM

How long did it take for you to learn what was going on? I am very happy that there were no injuries during the mad rush. How did the cops handle the situation?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: BM1090 on May 14, 2022, 03:24:30 PM
BM

How long did it take for you to learn what was going on? I am very happy that there were no injuries during the mad rush. How did the cops handle the situation?

We realized the situation was under control after a couple minutes after getting out on Juneau between third and water. Didn’t know what happened exactly until we were able to search what happened online about fifteen minutes after the first shots by MLK and Highland.

We didn’t stay in the area long but from what I saw, the cops did a good job of directing people away from Highland. Handled it well.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 03:39:48 PM
BM

I thought last year they had an appropriate amount of police on the grounds and I was told there were other agencies there to support. I am happy to hear they did a good job and appreciate their efforts in a tough situation.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: jesmu84 on May 14, 2022, 03:42:52 PM
jesmu

You had a case of the chuckles the other day and I wanted to join in on the fun.

I will add, I always think asking for clarification is the way to go. You asked a fair question and it looks like Merit provided a fair answer.

I am done chuckling.

All good goose. Thanks.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2022, 03:44:04 PM
We realized the situation was under control after a couple minutes after getting out on Juneau between third and water. Didn’t know what happened exactly until we were able to search what happened online about fifteen minutes after the first shots by MLK and Highland.

We didn’t stay in the area long but from what I saw, the cops did a good job of directing people away from Highland. Handled it well.

Thanks for that summary. It sounds like the police handled it well to keep an already bad situation from possibly getting worse.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2022, 03:57:56 PM
If the police in Milwaukee are like the police here, they were game planning and staffing for a situation like night.
Lots of people + hot weather + alcohol + pent up energy + emotional loss.   

We (communal first responder we) know that these events can and will happen and have begun table topping and attempting to get resources in place prior.

A year ago when they started showing that crowd during the finals, my second thought (after 'Super spreader event') was hoping that Milwaukee won because that scene could turn ugly in a hurry.

Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 04:06:14 PM
tower

You are a much better than I am by lumping the loss into last night’s events. If memory serves me, there was a bad situation after the Bucks took the crown last year.

There is no doubt there is extensive planning, and you would know that firsthand, and MPD looked extremely well prepared last year and would assume again last night.

IMO, things likely had a good chance of going badly regardless of the outcome of the game. I would think the curfew suggests that similar behavior could happen again tonight.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2022, 04:17:04 PM
Thankfully, the shooting near Fiserv wasn't as deadly as this one today in Buffalo ...

A gunman sporting a rifle and body armor opened fire in a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, killing at least 10 people before being taken into custody Saturday afternoon, law enforcement officials told The Associated Press.

Details on the number of additional people shot at the Tops Friendly Market and their conditions weren't immediately available. The two officials were not permitted to speak publicly on the matter and did so on the condition of anonymity.

Investigators believe the man may have been livestreaming the shooting and were looking into whether he had posted a manifesto online, the official said. The official cautioned the investigation was in its preliminary stages and that authorities hadn't yet discerned a clear motive, but were investigating whether the shooting was racially motivated.

The supermarket is in a predominately Black neighborhood, about 3 miles (5 kilometers) north of downtown Buffalo. The surrounding area is primarily residential, with a Family Dollar store and fire station near the store.

Buffalo police confirmed the shooter was in custody in a tweet, but did not identify the suspect. Witnesses reported the gunman was wearing military-style clothing in addition to the body armor. They described him as a white male in his late teens or early twenties sporting full camo, a black helmet and what appeared to be a rifle.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 04:19:57 PM
82

I thought you, or someone, started a thread on this very topic. Could you have posted this news in the appropriate thread or did you guys get that one locked down?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2022, 04:20:47 PM
Tragedies, all.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 14, 2022, 04:25:00 PM
tower

You are a much better than I am by lumping the loss into last night’s events. If memory serves me, there was a bad situation after the Bucks took the crown last year.

There is no doubt there is extensive planning, and you would know that firsthand, and MPD looked extremely well prepared last year and would assume again last night.

IMO, things likely had a good chance of going badly regardless of the outcome of the game. I would think the curfew suggests that similar behavior could happen again tonight.

  sorry, but i don't understand what the curfew is going to do??  so the under 21 year olds (if they follow the curfew) won't be present to cause any "riff raff"??  and only "responsible adults" will be allowed to mingle...perfect.  i feel much better ?-(
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: JWags85 on May 14, 2022, 04:31:45 PM
The thing that has amazed me is that I've been talking with a friends who live in the suburbs of Milwaukee,  and not a one was aware of the shootings. I don't know if that's suburban bubble effect or millennial don't party attention to the news effect

Late, but I flew back from NYC this morning.  3 different conversations I overheard between gate agents, and various passengers throughout the airport discussing it.  My grandma talked about it immediately when I saw her today and my parents had 2 different neighbors in FL who knew they were from the area ask about it.  Definitely think its likely a millennial thing...speaking from experience as one...

And, as horrible as it is, it felt like a matter of time.  I went to watch a game in the Toronto series in 2019, before the Deer District (TM) was a proper thing.  They just had a big screen and some stands outside of the bars there.  Midway through the game, a fight broke out between 5-6 guys that was pretty intense.  Got broken up, people moved on.  About 20 min later, a group of 10 or so guys came charging into the same area and a melee ensued.  No shots fired fortunately, but it was really intense, paramedics had to come for 2 people who were stomped to high heaven, and it shook my fiancee at the time pretty good.

I'm not scared to be downtown, I don't think its a hellscape, but talking to long time city residents (both Near South and Near North side) and some in local government type positions, the gang activity and associated violence is getting gnarly and driving a lot.  I have a lot of optimism for Cavalier Johnson, he's the breath of fresh air the city needs and he has a badass name
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: BM1090 on May 14, 2022, 04:35:17 PM
  sorry, but i don't understand what the curfew is going to do??  so the under 21 year olds (if they follow the curfew) won't be present to cause any "riff raff"??  and only "responsible adults" will be allowed to mingle...perfect.  i feel much better ?-(

MPD is worried about a lot of 16-20 year olds who drive downtown, drink in their cars, and then loiter outside the bars since they can’t get in. Multiple shooters last night were in that age range.

No idea if it’ll help, but there’s some logic behind it.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: BM1090 on May 14, 2022, 04:38:22 PM
tower

You are a much better than I am by lumping the loss into last night’s events. If memory serves me, there was a bad situation after the Bucks took the crown last year.

There is no doubt there is extensive planning, and you would know that firsthand, and MPD looked extremely well prepared last year and would assume again last night.

IMO, things likely had a good chance of going badly regardless of the outcome of the game. I would think the curfew suggests that similar behavior could happen again tonight.

Agree that the Bucks loss has nothing to do with it. Pretty optimistic that nothing else will happen this weekend since there will be heightened police presence in the area.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 04:44:42 PM
BM

You are partially correct,imo. The cops know who and what is going on at a very high level, but they cannot do anything about it. I will say with confidence that MPD knows who is in the cars, what they have done and are playing defense. That is now how society is to work.

I believe that post 9-11 police intelligence and planning is at a very high level. Unfortunately, they need to wait until something bad happens before getting involved.

As for nothing bad happening this weekend, odds are very high we will not see a repeat of last night and hopefully never again. That being said, I feel badly for the cops and citizens of the city.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: mu_hilltopper on May 14, 2022, 04:55:17 PM
The thing that has amazed me is that I've been talking with a friends who live in the suburbs of Milwaukee,  and not a one was aware of the shootings. I don't know if that's suburban bubble effect or millennial don't party attention to the news effect

I think the news media was .. waaay behind on this story.

I first found out about the shooting via the (locked) thread on Scoop.   I brought up Fox6's local news, and yeah, it was the first story .. FOR THREE MINUTES.  One would think a mass shooting event of 21 people would get wall to wall coverage.

So I went to JSOnline, just before 8am.  NO STORY POSTED.  ~10 hours after the shooting, and zero articles.  Couldn't believe it.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 04:57:47 PM
Topper

I actually noted it on a non locked thread about 4am. It was all over social media minutes after it happened. You guys call boomers out of touch, get in the game, man.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: jesmu84 on May 14, 2022, 05:01:24 PM
BM

You are partially correct,imo. The cops know who and what is going on at a very high level, but they cannot do anything about it. I will say with confidence that MPD knows who is in the cars, what they have done and are playing defense. That is now how society is to work.

I believe that post 9-11 police intelligence and planning is at a very high level. Unfortunately, they need to wait until something bad happens before getting involved.

As for nothing bad happening this weekend, odds are very high we will not see a repeat of last night and hopefully never again. That being said, I feel badly for the cops and citizens of the city.

I'm not sure about the intelligence, but perhaps. We know big brother collected far more Intel on domestic folks than we were initially led to believe.

I would certainly hope that police/whomever would step in where mass shootings like in buffalo happen vs seemingly sporadic ones like mke
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 14, 2022, 05:13:53 PM
bucks cancel sunday game 7 watch(victory) party
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2022, 05:24:58 PM
Wise.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 05:36:24 PM
tower

Why is that wise? I was mocked for going to a local lake vs going to the Third Ward today. A famous poster stated he was not afraid, why is the MPD?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 05:37:46 PM
tower

Why is that wise? I was mocked for going to a local lake vs going to the Third Ward today. A famous poster stated he was not afraid, why is the MPD?

I’d have it but you reap what you sow
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on May 14, 2022, 05:40:07 PM
tower

Why is that wise? I was mocked for going to a local lake vs going to the Third Ward today. A famous poster stated he was not afraid, why is the MPD?

The famous poster's not afraid of anything Goose.  Including being wrong.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2022, 05:43:31 PM
Letting a pedantic poster pucker your pantaloons is unwise.

Taking steps to avoid a repeat of unfortunate events is generally considered wise.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 05:44:34 PM
Rico

I am never going to stop going downtown, especially because I work there. My comment on going to a lake was a small part of a post. It was the right call to cancel the watch party, out of respect of what happened last night.

My comment is made out of emotion and I am guilty of that often, but it was singled out that my comment was soft.

We might not agree often, other than humor, but I think you are a sharp guy. Do you think my lake comment was a reflection of my thoughts of supporting MKE. If you did, you are not as sharp as I think you are.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 14, 2022, 05:47:31 PM
tower

Why is that wise? I was mocked for going to a local lake vs going to the Third Ward today. A famous poster stated he was not afraid, why is the MPD?

Hey Goose, when you are raised on the mean streets of South Wayne, WI., live in Milwaukee for 4 years, throw in some time in Madison when it was a mostly white city, then move to a college town in "NW Indiana", and end up in the Fox Valley, you are a certified bad ass, and ain't afraid of nothing.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 14, 2022, 05:55:12 PM
Hey Goose, when you are raised on the mean streets of South Wayne, WI., live in Milwaukee for 4 years, throw in some time in Madison when it was a mostly white city, then move to a college town in "NW Indiana", and end up in the Fox Valley, you are a certified bad ass, and ain't afraid of nothing.

    "he once had an awkward moment just to see how it felt"
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 05:56:21 PM
rocket

Like talking to someone in person.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 06:01:55 PM
Local dentist hits errant golf ball on Good Hope Rd and narrowly misses a drive by shooter…more to follow.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2022, 06:05:44 PM
Sliced that mofo ball many times, hey?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 14, 2022, 06:10:35 PM
rocket

Like talking to someone in person.


trying to reprogram and indoctrinate a student with a MAGA hat on
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 06:12:32 PM
Rico

I am never going to stop going downtown, especially because I work there. My comment on going to a lake was a small part of a post. It was the right call to cancel the watch party, out of respect of what happened last night.

My comment is made out of emotion and I am guilty of that often, but it was singled out that my comment was soft.

We might not agree often, other than humor, but I think you are a sharp guy. Do you think my lake comment was a reflection of my thoughts of supporting MKE. If you did, you are not as sharp as I think you are.

It meant the folks causing the cancellation are reaping what they sow and we suffer for it
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2022, 06:17:11 PM
82

I thought you, or someone, started a thread on this very topic. Could you have posted this news in the appropriate thread or did you guys get that one locked down?

I don't know of such a thread about the Buffalo shooting.

What I do know is that now, after what happened outside Fiserv and in Buffalo, is not the time to talk about common-sense gun measures that 75%+ of Americans want. It's never the time.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 06:23:02 PM
82

Didn’t you, or someone, have another mass shooting thread?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: GB Warrior on May 14, 2022, 06:24:06 PM
I don't know of such a thread about the Buffalo shooting.

What I do know is that now, after what happened outside Fiserv and in Buffalo, is not the time to talk about common-sense gun measures that 75%+ of Americans want. It's never the time.

More time for healing is needed before we can talk about right-wing shootings
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2022, 06:26:13 PM
82

Didn’t you, or someone, have another mass shooting thread?

Quite often, different threads get started after different mass shootings. Sometimes, we are getting so used to these losers with easy access to guns shooting up innocent people that we forget to start one.

I thought it was relevant to post another shooting, just a day later, in this thread. But I guess it's better to argue about who goes into Milwaukee and how often.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 06:27:06 PM
Doc

I am sorry, but you should not post on this thread because of you currently being a suburban dweller. Your upbringing may mean something to you, but being a Mequon guy prohibits you from discussing the city of MKE.
Again, I am sorry for pointing this out and please focus your efforts cleaning up the mess in the dental racket, and it sure sounds like a hell of a mess.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 06:28:26 PM
82

I am sorry, but I thought there was a lengthy thread on another mass shooting. I must be misremembering.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Jockey on May 14, 2022, 06:37:18 PM
The honest answer is I am unsure what I would do. If it’s a lost cause, run for my life.

I would run as well.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Jockey on May 14, 2022, 06:41:57 PM
Thank you. Jockey's scenario is what I was imagining.

Having a firearm for safety/protection when you're alone make sense.

I wasn't understanding how it would make sense in the middle of a mass shooting

I agree. I have no problems with having a gun for protection, for hunting, for target shooting, or for collectors.

But Assault rifles need to be banned. Period.

There is no need for a citizen to own a gun whose ONLY purpose is to kill massive amounts of people in a short time.

No one who owns one of these weapons is a responsible gun owner. No one.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 14, 2022, 06:53:14 PM
I agree. I have no problems with having a gun for protection, for hunting, for target shooting, or for collectors.

But Assault rifles need to be banned. Period.

There is no need for a citizen to own a gun whose ONLY purpose is to kill massive amounts of people in a short time.

No one who owns one of these weapons is a responsible gun owner. No one.

  "assault rifles" are banned and/or illegal.  until you know what you are talking about, educate yourself.  assault rifles are fully automatic or interchangeable between full automatic and semi auto.  if you don't know the difference, automatics only require one to hold the trigger for multiple rounds to be continuously fired, i.e. machine guns.  semi-auto fires once per trigger pull

AR stands for armalite, the original maunfacturer of the semi auto rifles people like to call "assault" rifles.   the reason people like to call AR's assault rifles is because it sounds scary 
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Merit Matters on May 14, 2022, 07:01:30 PM
I agree. I have no problems with having a gun for protection, for hunting, for target shooting, or for collectors.

But Assault rifles need to be banned. Period.

There is no need for a citizen to own a gun whose ONLY purpose is to kill massive amounts of people in a short time.

No one who owns one of these weapons is a responsible gun owner. No one.
I have plenty of Armalite rifles. I have no idea what an “assault rifle” is because it’s a made up, fictional term to scare people who don’t know anything about firearms.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 07:06:30 PM
Hey Merit

I hope you post more often. Good to see some new faces.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: GB Warrior on May 14, 2022, 07:07:45 PM
Good point, glad we don't have to be afraid of mass violence perpetuated by easy access to non-assault rifles.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2022, 07:11:17 PM
82

I am sorry, but I thought there was a lengthy thread on another mass shooting. I must be misremembering.

Goose, I look forward to your similar Scoop police work when Doc Dribble starts his 10th and 11th MU campus crime threads.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 07:16:09 PM
More guns, whatever they are, aren’t the answer.  People that brag about having AR-15’s or whatever are usually mouth breathing, no dick, overcompensating losers as we can see in this thread
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 07:19:36 PM
82

It is not police work and I appreciated you pointing out my sticking to the NBA when I veered off target on a thread. Just thought it was it paying it forward.

Note, I told Doc he should not post in the MKE thread because he is no longer a resident in the city. Posters spoke and I wanted him to know that he should only focus on suburban issues.

Hey, if it was me I would welcome Doc to discuss his thoughts on the shooting last night. I would equally welcome you to derail any or all threads with off the topic comments. The mods are getting overwhelmed shutting down threads and I am trying to help out. I cannot fix the perceived gun problem in MKE and helping here seems like a worthy cause. Shutting down a thread 14 posts shows the level of stress and I want us to help each other.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Jockey on May 14, 2022, 07:57:59 PM
I have plenty of Armalite rifles. I have no idea what an “assault rifle” is because it’s a made up, fictional term to scare people who don’t know anything about firearms.

I think you know exactly what an assault rifle is. A widely used generic term for rapid fire rifles with a large magazine capacity.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: NCMUFan on May 14, 2022, 08:15:15 PM
Doc

I am sorry, but you should not post on this thread because of you currently being a suburban dweller. Your upbringing may mean something to you, but being a Mequon guy prohibits you from discussing the city of MKE.
Again, I am sorry for pointing this out and please focus your efforts cleaning up the mess in the dental racket, and it sure sounds like a hell of a mess.
If the good Doc cannot post because he is not living in MKE, shouldn't that apply to everyone who doesn't live in MKE?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 08:23:07 PM
NcFan

It is complicated. If you do not live in greater MKE you are free to voice any opinion on the topic. If you reside in suburbs there is strong argument that you should not contribute to the situation because you do not actually live in the city. As I said, it is complicated, but if you are from NC I do not think any posters will object of you joining the conversation. But, if you happen to have a political slant against WI leaders, there could be some objection by some posters.





Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2022, 08:26:19 PM
I see, so Nads has more suck on MKE matters than me, hey?

#QuonLivesMatta

Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 14, 2022, 08:34:12 PM
I see, so Nads has more suck on MKE matters than me, hey?

#QuonLivesMatta

Sure as hell has more time on his hands, aina?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 08:34:58 PM
Doc Dribble

You have as much credibility on the topic as Vanilla Soft Serve has in the history of MU ball. There are guys that live 1000 miles away from campus that know better than you.

Oh, by the way I was reminded to make sure you do not post on Marquette Campus Crime post anymore. So, consider yourself warned.

Also, since we are clearing the air here, thanks for being my dentist. I know your profession has a very dark side, but you appear to be pretty legit.

Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Pakuni on May 14, 2022, 08:38:56 PM
Hey Merit

I hope you post more often. Good to see some new faces.

He's Chicos.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 14, 2022, 08:43:28 PM
He's Chicos.

Rent free
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Pakuni on May 14, 2022, 08:44:19 PM
Rent free

Stalker.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 08:47:00 PM
He's Chicos.

Not Chico’s but clearly has an agenda based on posting history.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2022, 08:48:28 PM
Doc Dribble

You have as much credibility on the topic as Vanilla Soft Serve has in the history of MU ball. There are guys that live 1000 miles away from campus that know better than you.

Oh, by the way I was reminded to make sure you do not post on Marquette Campus Crime post anymore. So, consider yourself warned.

Also, since we are clearing the air here, thanks for being my dentist. I know your profession has a very dark side, but you appear to be pretty legit.






Yeah, but eye'm all 'bout God, family, and country. Is dat still a thing in 2022, hey?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 14, 2022, 08:51:18 PM
Stalker.

 ::) ::)  loser.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Goose on May 14, 2022, 08:53:35 PM
Dribble

I do not think God or country is acceptable on here. Family should be good, but check back later.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 14, 2022, 08:58:02 PM
I think, going forward, I'd like to be known amongst Scoopers as Double Dribble. Think of it as a term of endearment, aina?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Pakuni on May 14, 2022, 09:02:10 PM
::) ::)  loser.

(https://c.tenor.com/fTE0YJs2ISMAAAAM/wow-so-cool-wow.gif)
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 14, 2022, 09:03:11 PM
Rent free

Says the guy who has (largely inaccurately) posted about my supposed residencies in this topic multiple times today. Without prompting BTW.

Seriously I have no idea where you live or what you do. Why do I live so “rent free” that it’s not the same for you?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 14, 2022, 09:03:50 PM
Dribble

I do not think God or country is acceptable on here. Family should be good, but check back later.

Of which god do we speak?  There are many denominations that inhabit this land.  What of the agnostic and atheist?  Isn’t god and religion simply a philosophical discussion?  The answer is yes, of course, but more blood has been shed in the history of mankind over religious differences.  Maybe not talking religion is a good thing?  The passions of religion seem counter their very teachings but then again, I’m agnostic

Country is an interesting topic.  Blind loyalty to the country is a mistake as is insurrection against our democratic norms.  We have a segment of the population that treat the flag like blood while others see the flag as an evolving symbol, sometimes not always good.  The history of America is complicated, good and bad.  I’d like to think the good outweighs the bad but maybe not.

As for family, we all have plenty that can go pound sand
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: rocket surgeon on May 14, 2022, 09:07:25 PM
I think you know exactly what an assault rifle is. A widely used generic term for rapid fire rifles with a large magazine capacity.

never seen one of those bad boys go off on their own.  i don't care if it has a magazine the size of rio linda, still takes a person to pull the trigger
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 14, 2022, 09:11:53 PM
Says the guy who has (largely inaccurately) posted about my supposed residencies in this topic multiple times today. Without prompting BTW.

Seriously I have no idea where you live or what you do. Why do I live so “rent free” that it’s not the same for you?

I'm not the attention seeking whore that has told everyone where you've lived.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: wadesworld on May 14, 2022, 09:33:32 PM
never seen one of those bad boys go off on their own.  i don't care if it has a magazine the size of rio linda, still takes a person to pull the trigger

I’ve never seen heroin, meth, or ecstasy inject itself into a person before. Takes a person to shoot up. Why are hard drugs illegal again?

I’ve never seen a motor vehicle speed and cause an accident without a human driving it. Why do we have speed limits again?
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 14, 2022, 09:40:05 PM
I'm not the attention seeking whore that has told everyone where you've lived.

You are right that you never have stated where you lived.

But you most certainly are an “attention seeking whore.”

And you are still pretty inaccurate regarding where you think I have claimed to live.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2022, 09:57:12 PM
82

It is not police work and I appreciated you pointing out my sticking to the NBA when I veered off target on a thread. Just thought it was it paying it forward.

Note, I told Doc he should not post in the MKE thread because he is no longer a resident in the city. Posters spoke and I wanted him to know that he should only focus on suburban issues.

Hey, if it was me I would welcome Doc to discuss his thoughts on the shooting last night. I would equally welcome you to derail any or all threads with off the topic comments. The mods are getting overwhelmed shutting down threads and I am trying to help out. I cannot fix the perceived gun problem in MKE and helping here seems like a worthy cause. Shutting down a thread 14 posts shows the level of stress and I want us to help each other.

You and Doc FD Dribble are very helpful and you've both solved all the problems in MKE. Well done!
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: tower912 on May 14, 2022, 10:04:30 PM


I’ve never seen a motor vehicle speed and cause an accident without a human driving it. Why do we have speed limits again?

Tesla may be changing that.
Title: Re: Shooting(s) After Bucks Game
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 14, 2022, 10:10:48 PM
You are right that you never have stated where you lived.

But you most certainly are an “attention seeking whore.”

And you are still pretty inaccurate regarding where you think I have claimed to live.

I'm giving you "northwest Indiana", doosh.