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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Skatastrophy on May 12, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
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Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/v/cdq581v3dCo
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/v/86t5BxulUws
Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/v/mKeMxsClCCU
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What is the source/ just curious (maybe it was in #1, but I missed?)?
I thought that it may be the Dan Patrick interview that Jim Ganzer had on Brew City, but isn't. Good interview.
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What is the source/ just curious (maybe it was in #1, but I missed?)?
I thought that it may be the Dan Patrick interview that Jim Ganzer had on Brew City, but isn't. Good interview.
I'm pretty sure that it was the athletic department produced to get Marquette and Coach Wojo's names out there.
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Yeah, while a good listen, it is a total recruiting tool. Intro the new coach and pump MU. I like it.
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He just seems like such a genuine dude. Really soft spoken and lets his words do the talking as opposed to Brent who would be known for his antics and motions rather than what he actually said.
Speaking of facilities, they really need an all basketball dorm or to make something in the AL. Housing the underclassmen in Carpenter and then Humphrey is really low end for as much money as we put them in the program. At least get them a place in the 2040s or the new apartment building going up called the Ivy.
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He doesn't blink.
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Coach Wojo is very impressive. Can't wait to watch his Warriors play!
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Speaking of facilities, they really need an all basketball dorm or to make something in the AL. Housing the underclassmen in Carpenter and then Humphrey is really low end for as much money as we put them in the program. At least get them a place in the 2040s or the new apartment building going up called the Ivy.
You just described two HUGE recruiting violations. Athletes aren't allowed to be given sequestered housing. The dorms need to at least by 60% non-athlete if I remember correctly. I'm going by memory on this one so I might be off. Schools also cannot give players apartments. They can only give them free on campus housing. Humphery is considered on campus housing because it is owned by Marquette.
If the athletes pay for it themselves, they can do whatever they want.
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You just described two HUGE recruiting violations. Athletes aren't allowed to be given sequestered housing. The dorms need to at least by 60% non-athlete if I remember correctly. I'm going by memory on this one so I might be off. Schools also cannot give players apartments. They can only give them free on campus housing. Humphery is considered on campus housing because it is owned by Marquette.
If the athletes pay for it themselves, they can do whatever they want.
51%
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You just described two HUGE recruiting violations. Athletes aren't allowed to be given sequestered housing. The dorms need to at least by 60% non-athlete if I remember correctly. I'm going by memory on this one so I might be off. Schools also cannot give players apartments. They can only give them free on campus housing. Humphery is considered on campus housing because it is owned by Marquette.
If the athletes pay for it themselves, they can do whatever they want.
16.5.1.2 Athletics Blocks.
Athletics blocks shall be defined as individual blocks, wings or floors
within institutional dormitories or privately owned dormitories or apartment
buildings in which at least 50 percent of the residents are student-athletes.
(Adopted: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/96, Revised: 1/10/92, 11/1/01
effective 8/1/02)
16.5.1.1 Athletics
Dormitories.
Athletics dormitories shall be
defined as institutional dormitories in which at least 50 percent of the
residents are student-athletes. (Adopted: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/96,
Revised: 11/1/01 effective 8/1/02)
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You just described two HUGE recruiting violations. Athletes aren't allowed to be given sequestered housing. The dorms need to at least by 60% non-athlete if I remember correctly. I'm going by memory on this one so I might be off. Schools also cannot give players apartments. They can only give them free on campus housing. Humphery is considered on campus housing because it is owned by Marquette.
If the athletes pay for it themselves, they can do whatever they want.
It is 50% non-athletes. Wouldn't it be great if we could afford to build something similar to the Wildcat Coal Lodge?! It cost Kentucky over 8 million to build this high end "dorm." That place is even going to look inadequate compared to what Kansas is building. They are shelling out 17.5 million for a 66 person dorm, that will house the mens and womens basketball teams. The university thinks building this will keep them competitive. Think this is why Marquette struggles to land the top 20 kids?!
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It is 50% non-athletes. Wouldn't it be great if we could afford to build something similar to the Wildcat Coal Lodge?! It cost Kentucky over 8 million to build this high end "dorm." That place is even going to look inadequate compared to what Kansas is building. They are shelling out 17.5 million for a 66 person dorm, that will house the mens and womens basketball teams. The university thinks building this will keep them competitive. Think this is why Marquette struggles to land the top 20 kids?!
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I don't think MU needs the Wildcat Loge, but having freshmen in Carpenter is preposterous.
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I don't think MU needs the Wildcat Loge, but having freshmen in Carpenter is preposterous.
I thought there would be a moving fan outside Carpenter to move them to Humphrey the day after Pilarz left. Can't believe they're still running this shenanigan.
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A friend of mine played women's hoops. She was very excited when she found out the freshmen were living in Tower. She talked about the need for basketball players to be integrated into campus to really feel like they are a part of campus. She lived in McCormick but she was the last class to do so and she always felt her college experience was more enriched than her younger teammates.
To ChitownWarrior, for 20+ years the men's team lived in Humphery all 4 years.
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A friend of mine played women's hoops. She was very excited when she found out the freshmen were living in Tower. She talked about the need for basketball players to be integrated into campus to really feel like they are a part of campus. She lived in McCormick but she was the last class to do so and she always felt her college experience was more enriched than her younger teammates.
I agree with your friend and many men's basketball players might end up agreeing with her (in retrospect). I don't, however, think there are many 18 year old star athletes for whom Carpenter would be a preference over Humphrey, let alone the accomodations at Kentucky or Kansas.
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I don't understand why it's carpenter. Like Straz or Mashuda at least are a bit nicer. Carpenter I've never been in but nothing I've heard has been positive.
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I don't understand why it's carpenter. Like Straz or Mashuda at least are a bit nicer. Carpenter I've never been in but nothing I've heard has been positive.
Walls are extremely hard.
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Even Abbottsford would be better than Carpenter. Abbottsford is more centrally located, bigger rooms, it's a freshman dorm, I believe there is air conditioning (coulda been a rumor), and they're all triples so you can put 2 guys to a triple.
Carpenter sucks
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If they are going to do this why not put them in Straz? By far the nicest dorm.
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Walls are extremely hard.
Probably a good thing
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Yeah, ya really don't wanna hear the screams of joy from your neighbor's room, aina?
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Even Abbottsford would be better than Carpenter. Abbottsford is more centrally located, bigger rooms, it's a freshman dorm, I believe there is air conditioning (coulda been a rumor), and they're all triples so you can put 2 guys to a triple.
Carpenter sucks
Sums up college life, perfectly.
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A friend of mine played women's hoops. She was very excited when she found out the freshmen were living in Tower. She talked about the need for basketball players to be integrated into campus to really feel like they are a part of campus. She lived in McCormick but she was the last class to do so and she always felt her college experience was more enriched than her younger teammates.
No offense to your friend, but women's hoops is a different animal completely. It's absurd that the men's team sends the freshmen and sophomores to Tower. Old building, small rooms, no AC. All it is doing is self-inflicting another objection for the staff to overcome when recruiting.
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No offense to your friend, but women's hoops is a different animal completely. It's absurd that the men's team sends the freshmen and sophomores to Tower. Old building, small rooms, no AC. All it is doing is self-inflicting another objection for the staff to overcome when recruiting.
I guess all the amenities that a Top 10 basketball budgets affords gets thrown out the window when the recruits hear about Tower.
It really hurt with Duane (RSCI 59), JJJ (35) & Deonte (53).
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I don't understand why it's carpenter. Like Straz or Mashuda at least are a bit nicer. Carpenter I've never been in but nothing I've heard has been positive.
Maybe because Tower is the dorm closest to the Al.
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I guess all the amenities that a Top 10 basketball budgets affords gets thrown out the window when the recruits hear about Tower.
It really hurt with Duane (RSCI 59), JJJ (35) & Deonte (53).
The fact that an objection can be over come sometime is not a good arguement to not do anything about it. When we are spending so much on the program spending something on upgrading a "special" dorm is a no brainer. And to get around the NCAA 50% rule you put the mens and womans teams there (30 people tops) and then let 30+ normal students enter a lottery for the other nice air conditioned rooms. You don't cheat but you've got to "play the game".
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The fact that an objection can be over come sometime is not a good arguement to not do anything about it. When we are spending so much on the program spending something on upgrading a "special" dorm is a no brainer. And to get around the NCAA 50% rule you put the mens and womans teams there (30 people tops) and then let 30+ normal students enter a lottery for the other nice air conditioned rooms. You don't cheat but you've got to "play the game".
You could argue that MU's recruiting was improving as this change to Tower was implemented. Now that may just because Buzz was becoming a great recruiter but to act like it's such a hamstring when recruiting was improving seems odd. We did "play the game". We had guys in HUGE corner units, two bedrooms for 20+ years. It's not we're stuck in the stone ages, we decided to change the game for underclassmen just a few years ago.
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Maybe because Tower is the dorm closest to the Al.
Is it? The Al is on 12th street and both Abbottsford and Schroeder are on 13th, then Carpenter is on 11th. Each a block away. I stand by Abbottsford being the best option.
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Abbottsford and Carpenter are equidistant from the Al. Abbottsford did not have air conditioning when I was at Marquette.
I don't think the administration will be alright with building a building even remotely similar to what Kentucky has. It is hard for a small private university to justify a multi-million dollar project that will only benefit 66 students a year (I believe that's how many fit in Kentucky's basketball dorm).
The answer IMHO is upgrading or redoing all of the residence halls. I didn't realize this when I was at Marquette, but we have some of the WORST dorms in the nation. I've worked at four different universities and Marquette's best (Straz) would be below average at the other three.
Nowadays, air conditioning isn't a bonus, it is expected. Students don't just want their own dorms, they want their own bedrooms inside their dorms. And community bathrooms? Students think these are abhorrent and simply not an option.
Personally, I feel students nowadays are spoiled. I loved my experience in O'Donnell. I made more friends and felt like I was a part of a community because of the crappy facilities. But current college students list dorm quality as one of the most important factors in college decisions. If we want to stay competitive, I think we will need to upgrade.
Back to the original topic, if you upgrade all the halls (or even just one) you put the basketball players in there and all of the sudden it isn't so bad to live on campus.
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When I saw the Title I assumed it was footage of Wojo walking all over the court during games like Buzz used to do. So glad Buzz is gone his being on the court all game was super annoying.
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When I saw the Title I assumed it was footage of Wojo walking all over the court during games like Buzz used to do. So glad Buzz is gone his being on the court all game was super annoying.
You ready for sideline floor-slapping?
https://www.youtube.com/v/XvCU7-TdfwM
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You ready for sideline floor-slapping?
https://www.youtube.com/v/XvCU7-TdfwM
What is that camp? It looks like one of those baseball deals where middle aged guys pay $2k/day to play in AZ in January with Willie Mays "coaching." Most of the guys on Wojo's team don't look very fit.
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What is that camp? It looks like one of those baseball deals where middle aged guys pay $2k/day to play in AZ in January with Willie Mays "coaching." Most of the guys on Wojo's team don't look very fit.
The K Academy. Coach K's fantasy basketball camp:
http://coachk.com/camps-and-clinics/k-academy/
http://kacademy.com/
"Tuition for the K Academy is $10,000"
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"Tuition for the K Academy is $10,000"
Does that include the Coach K All-You-Can-Eat Nightly Smorgasbord?
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Does that include the Coach K All-You-Can-Eat Nightly Smorgasbord?
Is that a euphemism?