Author Topic: Big Ten is loaded this year (Read 7686 times)

PuertoRicanNightmare · « **on:** December 27, 2010, 07:26:50 PM »

Penn State came up with a nice, early season road victory. Great start to the conference season for them.

I wonder if Penn State head coach Ed DeChellis will tweet about this victory?

4everwarriors · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2010, 10:10:39 PM »

I'm sure he didn't walk up and down the bench clapping either.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2010, 11:10:25 PM »

That is a really bad loss....really bad

LCDutchman · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:26:47 AM »

Watched the Crean Puffs last night against Penn State. Two bad teams both poorly coached. Neither will win 3 games in the Big Ten.

spiral97 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:56:53 AM »

Quote from: LCDutchman on December 28, 2010, 09:26:47 AM

Watched the Crean Puffs last night against Penn State. Two bad teams both poorly coached. Neither will win 3 games in the Big Ten.

If you are correct, and I'm thinking you're not but not too far off either, then I think Crean might have reason to be concerned about the remainder of his contract. That'd be too bad though, I was half-looking forward to seeing Rocky wear red.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2010, 09:59:27 AM »

Quote from: spiral97 on December 28, 2010, 09:56:53 AM

If you are correct, and I'm thinking you're not but not too far off either, then I think Crean might have reason to be concerned about the remainder of his contract. That'd be too bad though, I was half-looking forward to seeing Rocky wear red.

Nah....with the load of players coming in 2011, 2012, 2013 and expectations for this season to finish 9th....Rocky will be wearing red next year.

NersEllenson · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:21:12 AM »

If Crean could simply take a page from Buzz-ball 101 - which is to MAKE more Free Throws than your opponent attempts - he would improve markedly as a coach. His overagressive, obsession with deflections, and intensity result in his teams committing way too many fouls. It happened while he was at MU, and continues at IU.

Last nights game:

IU - 21 fouls
Penns State: 15 fouls

FT Attempted: Penn State 26
Indiana 8

FT Made: Penn State: 19
Indiana 5

DJO's Pump Fake · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:26:03 AM »

Jay Bee · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:26:45 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 28, 2010, 09:59:27 AM

Nah....with the load of players coming in 2011, 2012, 2013 and expectations for this season to finish 9th....Rocky will be wearing red next year.

The thing is, there is no load of players coming in 2011. 2012-14 is a different story (if you accept that they are all really going to wind up in Bloomington). Two Indiana Elite kids (shocking) are coming next year... both are traditional... Etherington.. 6'6" shooter. He can get it going some nights, but is not a savior, not by a long shot. Cody is a very good looking player, but again.. this isn't a Sullinger type of guy.

I think it was a six point game and Hulls hit another trey... the little coach guy was overly excited and did an animated fist pump in front of the bench. I puked. Not sure if it was the jagoff celebration over a three pointer when his team was getting beat by a horrendous opponent or the fact that I had seen Carrie Underwood in a magazine earlier that day that caused me to earl, but both were awful sights.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:51:23 AM »

Whenever Crean's time is up at Indiana, will we still see posts on Crean's next school here on scoop? Or does it stop once he is twice removed?

LCDutchman · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2010, 11:11:07 AM »

Getting beat by Penn State at home Crean has now lost more home games than Bob Knight lost in his entire tenure at the university. After watching his teams poor performance on defense, offense, transition it is not a suprising statistic.

GGGG · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2010, 11:27:27 AM »

Quote from: Ners on December 28, 2010, 10:21:12 AM

If Crean could simply take a page from Buzz-ball 101 - which is to MAKE more Free Throws than your opponent attempts - he would improve markedly as a coach. His overagressive, obsession with deflections, and intensity result in his teams committing way too many fouls. It happened while he was at MU, and continues at IU.

I agree with this completely. I see this all over college (and high school) basketball and it amazes me. Why draw your defense so far away from the basket? Why jump passing lanes when you don't need to? I see way too much defensive over-coaching for no real benefit.

StillAWarrior · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2010, 11:54:00 AM »

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 28, 2010, 11:27:27 AM

I agree with this completely. I see this all over college (and high school) basketball and it amazes me. Why draw your defense so far away from the basket? Why jump passing lanes when you don't need to? I see way too much defensive over-coaching for no real benefit.

This drives me crazy when watching my son's team play. I often think they would be much better off if the coach would tell them, "never try to steal the ball from a player who is dribbling." They would probably save 6-8 (or more) reach in fouls every game and would maybe get one fewer steal. I'm not saying that this is the right answer, but if he can't teach them to be more disciplined on when to go for the steal, they'd likely be better never trying. Those reach in fouls drive me nuts.

GGGG · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2010, 12:06:15 PM »

I've coached youth basketball from the 5th to 8th grade levels for over a decade. We never zone. Only press if down late. Rarely do we set up beyond the three point line. And we are generally one of the better defensive teams out there.

Now offensively....

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2010, 12:26:46 PM »

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 28, 2010, 10:26:45 AM

Two Indiana Elite kids (shocking) are coming next year... both are traditional... Etherington.. 6'6" shooter. He can get it going some nights, but is not a savior, not by a long shot. Cody is a very good looking player, but again.. this isn't a Sullinger type of guy.

That is shocking, especially since they've been coming IU's way for several decades...shocking indeed.

chren21 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 28, 2010, 06:18:50 PM »

Wisconsin vs. Minn on Espn 2 right now....

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=303620275

chren21 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 28, 2010, 07:56:37 PM »

Wisconsin with a nice win. TM had another double double. 11-11. Questionable call that took him out of the last 4 min of the first half.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2010, 08:41:17 PM »

Agree, good win for Wisconsin....again.

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2010, 03:55:37 PM »

MSU just looks putrid at half vs. MN at home. Our Wisky loss is looking better...as is our Vandy loss with TN getting blown away by CoC.

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2010, 05:12:48 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 31, 2010, 03:55:37 PM

MSU just looks putrid at half vs. MN at home. Our Wisky loss is looking better...as is our Vandy loss with TN getting blown away by CoC.

I stand retracted. MSU on fire in the 2nd. UM is average with Trevor on the bench with foul trouble, which seems to be his tendency.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2010, 05:16:28 PM »

Most teams will be middle of the road when you take 17 and 9 off the floor. Meanwhile, Crean is getting his ass handed to him, as expected, by tOSU. BTW, Thomas has a picnic tablecloth tie on. Must have gotten it for Xmas from Joanie. Still hasn't learned how to tie them, though.

Dr. Blackheart · « **Reply #21 on:** January 01, 2011, 11:56:48 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 28, 2010, 08:41:17 PM

Agree, good win for Wisconsin....again.

Noticed this...UW dead last on tempo in the nation. Bo really has the talent to work his system successfully. Taylor has been impressive at PG. Have the Illini tomorrow on the road.

http://kenpom.com/stats.php?s=RankAdjTempo

rugbydrummer · « **Reply #22 on:** January 02, 2011, 12:19:18 AM »

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 01, 2011, 11:56:48 PM

Noticed this...UW dead last on tempo in the nation. Bo really has the talent to work his system successfully. Taylor has been impressive at PG. Have the Illini tomorrow on the road.

http://kenpom.com/stats.php?s=RankAdjTempo

Go Weber, The good orange Bruce !

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #23 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:05:56 PM »

Apparently so, MSU just lost to that same Penn State team

NersEllenson · « **Reply #24 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:37:12 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 08, 2011, 03:05:56 PM

Apparently so, MSU just lost to that same Penn State team

Who cares..Penn State is 9-6...2-2 in league play and 7-4 out of league play..not exactly very good. MSU is overrated this year, and largely ranked due to their name...in fact their resume doesn't really look any better than does MU's at this point.

PuertoRicanNightmare · « **Reply #25 on:** January 09, 2011, 09:53:12 PM »

Has Northwestern been playing well this year?

4everwarriors · « **Reply #26 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:10:03 PM »

Yep, this may just be the year they penetrate the NCAA bubble. Despite Kevin Coble deciding not to return to the team for his senior season after a medical redshirt last season, Carmody has a nice squad led by traditional player, John Shurna. Non-traditional returners include "Juice" Thompson along with Sophomore Drew Crawford, son of NBA ref, Joe Crawford.
The 'Cats (10-4), opened the B10 season with losses at Purdue and Illinois and lost a close game in Evanston to the Spartans. The schedule lightened up a bit beginning with today's game at home vs. turtlehead's team. Yes, he actually shook Carmody's hand after the latest Cream and Crimson loss. Not withstanding, the pacing and continuous self-serving clapping, while drawing attention to himself, was ever present as was Doc Rivers, whose "number" is retired at MU, sat behind the bench watching Jeremiah.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #27 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:17:16 PM »

4ever, you're slow on the take...PRN was trying to give you a softball to hit out of the park but apparently you missed it.

I hope Northwestern gets in, it would be a great story. As stated the other day, they needed to win this game and the next one against Iowa. Their loss to St. John's and then the 3 losses right after had them reeling. Tonight was a no brainer and they will beat Iowa on Wednesday.

Ken Pom has them going 6-12 this year, which won't get it done. I hope they do, they're 10-4 now and very good at home but they've got to improve away from home if they want to make it.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #28 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:24:32 PM »

Just trying to represent the 'Cats and not pile onto the obvious.

🏀 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:41:52 PM »

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 09, 2011, 10:10:03 PM

Non-traditional returners include "Juice" Thompson along with Sophomore Drew Crawford, son of NBA ref, Joe Crawford.

Not a whole lot of traditionals go by Juice.

ZiggysFryBoy · « **Reply #30 on:** January 10, 2011, 04:35:57 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhrkNxl3fRA

Defense at IU now....

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #31 on:** January 16, 2011, 01:02:38 AM »

Penn State again. This time takes #1 Ohio State to the wire in Columbus. Tie game with less than 30 seconds left before the Buckeyes finally win by 3.

Looks like PSU is for real.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #32 on:** January 16, 2011, 01:30:32 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 16, 2011, 01:02:38 AM

Penn State again. This time takes #1 Ohio State to the wire in Columbus. Tie game with less than 30 seconds left before the Buckeyes finally win by 3.

Looks like PSU is for real.

If likely finishing below .500 is 'for real', then yes. It helps to start four seniors, but Penn State still sucks relative to NCAA tournament hopeful teams.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #33 on:** January 16, 2011, 02:16:07 PM »

Correct, I don't think they will make the NCAAs but they aren't the 11th place team they were portrayed this year by the OP now were they?

Jay Bee · « **Reply #34 on:** January 16, 2011, 02:21:40 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 16, 2011, 02:16:07 PM

Correct, I don't think they will make the NCAAs but they aren't the 11th place team they were portrayed this year by the OP now were they?

I don't see that they were portrayed as the 11th place team by the OP, but that is irrelevant to my post... my post was in response to you saying "Looks like PSU is for real", which is ridiculous based on any reasonable definition of 'for real', which you apparently now agree with. Thanks.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #35 on:** January 16, 2011, 02:23:52 PM »

Let me rephrase to help you. When I say Penn State is for real, it means playing them is not going to be easy. It's a tough out, a tough game....it's not DePaul. They are going to make life difficult for a number of teams. They are a "REAL TEAM". Hopefully that clarifies it.

Jay Bee · « **Reply #36 on:** January 16, 2011, 02:25:38 PM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 16, 2011, 02:23:52 PM

Let me rephrase to help you. When I say Penn State is for real, it means playing them is not going to be easy. It's a tough out, a tough game....it's not DePaul. They are going to make life difficult for a number of teams. They are a "REAL TEAM". Hopefully that clarifies it.

No need to do your usual backtracking / changing your story thing to 'help me'. I can read you like a book.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #37 on:** March 13, 2011, 01:49:26 AM »

Bump

Looks like Penn State wasn't so bad now were they

GGGG · « **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2011, 07:36:37 AM »

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 16, 2011, 02:16:07 PM

Correct, I don't think they will make the NCAAs

WOW!!!! Are you gonna admit you are WRONG about this FACT later today??? Huh...are you!!!???!!!

PuertoRicanNightmare · « **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2011, 08:57:08 AM »

Penn State is definitely the best they've been in years. Their 9-9 regular season was certainly helped by bottom feeders like Iowa and an injury-plagued Northwestern. And, of course Minnesota collapsed in the 2nd half of the season. MSU was also way down this year and Illinois underachieved big time.

Makes you wonder how a team can go through a Big Ten schedule with a 3-15 record. Literally one of the worst Big Ten seasons in memory. Three wins. Fifteen losses.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #40 on:** March 13, 2011, 09:02:01 AM »

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 13, 2011, 08:57:08 AM

Penn State is definitely the best they've been in years. Their 9-9 regular season was certainly helped by bottom feeders like Iowa and an injury-plagued Northwestern. And, of course Minnesota collapsed in the 2nd half of the season. MSU was also way down this year and Illinois underachieved big time.

Makes you wonder how a team can go through a Big Ten schedule with a 3-15 record. Literally one of the worst Big Ten seasons in memory. Three wins. Fifteen losses.

Gotta believe that 3-15 team must have been poorly coached.

ChicosBailBonds · « **Reply #41 on:** March 13, 2011, 11:43:43 AM »

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 13, 2011, 07:36:37 AM

WOW!!!! Are you gonna admit you are WRONG about this FACT later today??? Huh...are you!!!???!!!

I think Penn State is in. Even if they are not, they proved to be a pretty solid team this year and the original thread was kind of funny. The skeptic in me might think it was solely performed as a dig against a former coach, but that would be skeptical and such.

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