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Author Topic: Outcoached.  (Read 9136 times)

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2020, 05:50:16 PM »
Does MU have any players on the roster other than Howard that a top half power 6 conference team would even want?

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2020, 05:51:11 PM »
Bad coaches get outcoached hey? This is nothing new with Wojo.
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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2020, 05:51:30 PM »
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Respect your opinion, but strongly disagree. Fist off, on a great team he would not be scoring 67 points to a game. He is the only option on a poor team. The GOAT has no support.

I agree - with a player like Markus a decent coach should be able to draw up easy buckets for the other guys - we get some good looks from three, but how many jams and lay ups do we get? Their 7 footers were part of the triple teams on Markus at the 3 point line - how many jams and oops did SH have today? No reason we shouldn't get those same looks.
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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2020, 05:51:38 PM »
He has one of the best scorers that has ever played college ball. And he couldn't get the ball into his hands in the last 10 minutes of this game. I dont think talent is the issue.

I agree with this analysis.

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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2020, 05:52:25 PM »
Disagree, especially if there is a commitment from Mane.


Right, because relying on a freshman to be your offense is a GREAT strategy.
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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2020, 05:53:22 PM »

Right, because relying on a freshman to be your offense is a GREAT strategy.

Remind me where I said that?

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2020, 05:53:35 PM »
Does MU have any players on the roster other than Howard that a top half power 6 conference team would even want?
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2020, 05:54:17 PM »
Remind me where I said that?


Yeah, you're right.  Sorry.  I misread with all my ranting.
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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2020, 05:57:59 PM »
Does MU have any players on the roster other than Howard that a top half power 6 conference team would even want?


Nope.  Both of them already left

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2020, 05:59:41 PM »
The coaching has been a joke but lets be honest. 


This team is Depaul with an all american


Its Slu with larry hughes.    Depaul with richardson.   Etc.   

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2020, 06:00:05 PM »
Why did MU hire an ambassador to do a coaching job?


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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2020, 06:00:36 PM »

Yeah, you're right.  Sorry.  I misread with all my ranting.

No problem. While I'm not giving up on this season yet, which may turn out to be foolish, I just have a very hard time seeing a circumstance where Wojo will be fired after the season and the recruiting class definitely is a factor in that. Now if next season is a disaster even with the great class then all bets are off.

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2020, 06:02:06 PM »
1SE

Respect your opinion, but strongly disagree. Fist off, on a great team he would not be scoring 67 points to a game. He is the only option on a poor team. The GOAT has no support.

Agreed Goose, when a team looks lost most of the time it’s because they are simply outclassed talent wise.  This is apparent at every level including grade school.   We have no consistent supporting talent at this point.  I feel sorry for Howard. 

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2020, 06:02:19 PM »
Nah. Defense was okay. Offense missed countless good looks. Prevented Powell from killing them. The PC game was pretty poor coaching. Today was fine. We had lots of chances to get back in the game and every time we failed to make a play.

Agree with the last paragraph.

Yup. SHU was at like 36% eFG in the second half. We had a string of like 4 straight trips that ended in wide open missed threes. Team created opportunities in the second half but just couldn't capitalize.
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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2020, 06:04:39 PM »
Shooter

Keep waiting for the tooth fairy. You lack ball knowledge and should try and learn on this site. Maybe just read posts like WhoaJoe for a couple of years.

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« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2020, 06:04:53 PM »
This is why top players usually don't take chances coming to a school without a coach who has a proven track record of big time results.
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« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2020, 06:07:50 PM »
Yup. SHU was at like 36% eFG in the second half. We had a string of like 4 straight trips that ended in wide open missed threes. Team created opportunities in the second half but just couldn't capitalize.
We had stretches of a bad defensive possessions a few times today, but defense was fine.  Also agree we missed many open 3s with goods looks in 2nd half.  My issue is what it always is.  Need ball movement to sometimes get good looks other than 3s by people other than Markus.  It would help if our three headed center could finish around the rim once in a while.
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« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2020, 06:23:12 PM »
Shooter

Keep waiting for the tooth fairy. You lack ball knowledge and should try and learn on this site. Maybe just read posts like WhoaJoe for a couple of years.

Goose,

I agree with you.  This team lacks talent other than Howard.  Not sure what your post means. 

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Re: Outcoached.
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2020, 06:24:35 PM »
As the losses pile up and the fan base continues to get more disgruntled , how many years before MU is playing home games at The Al?

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« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2020, 06:25:25 PM »
Shooter

Read your responses to me since last February.

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« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2020, 06:26:25 PM »
As the losses pile up and the fan base continues to get more disgruntled , how many years before MU is playing home games at The Al?

Hopefully this year. How quickly did our fan base sell out the NIT games last time around? 3 minutes? 4?

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« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2020, 06:29:45 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2020, 06:30:21 PM »
Va Tech supposedly had a bare cupboard this year and made an excellent coaching hire. Look we’re they’re at now...

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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2020, 06:31:08 PM »
As the losses pile up and the fan base continues to get more disgruntled , how many years before MU is playing home games at The Al?


This is a distinct possibility.  Or at the arena again.    How long is the fiserv contract for?


Hey at least the tribute money for lower bowl seats will go down

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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2020, 06:31:26 PM »
McEwen has All-Big East talent.



Really, hey?
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