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Author Topic: Gabe York commits to Zona  (Read 8948 times)

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2011, 07:32:12 AM »
Answer:   Cadougan, Wilson, Blue, Mayo, TJ Taylor, Ferguson, Jake Taylor

Jamail Jones too.

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2011, 07:45:48 AM »
Yeah, but I think he is going to be more of a spot up 3 based solely on size.   
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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2011, 08:42:37 AM »
York is a special talent. You always want to stockpile talent regardless of what the amateur experts think is loading up too much at one position. Balance is a wonderful thing until you look for it too much and end up striking out on your top targets (re: summer of 2010). The disappointing part is not that York chose Arizona over MU as he was always the right fit for Miller. The disappointing bit is that York was clearly a priority for Buzz and staff and its never a positive to lose out on those you seek the hardest.

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2011, 08:50:38 AM »
Recruiting kids from California is really a crapshoot.  Needs to be more Midwest based on recruiting, Juan Anderson is an exception
not the rule, he will lose more than he wins there.  At least Buzz can go after someone else as it is early in the process.  At least
he did not wait around to April next year.

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2011, 09:04:34 AM »
Recruiting kids from California is really a crapshoot.  Needs to be more Midwest based on recruiting, Juan Anderson is an exception
not the rule, he will lose more than he wins there.  At least Buzz can go after someone else as it is early in the process.  At least
he did not wait around to April next year.

That's my perspective as well.  By all means go for it, but you're going to miss more than you hit on a percentage basis than a talent from the midwest or closer to home.  If the risk is worth it, go for it but the odds are the odds.

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2011, 09:12:11 AM »
I agree with Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee, but the rest are all warm weather states. Jones, DJO, Crowder, Otule, and Anderson would all have to be considered from a warm weather climate. I realize parts of Texas gets snow, but so do parts of Arizona. And when Texas or Georgia get snow, they are so ill-equipped to handle it that an inch or two throws cities into a tizzy.

Like you said, he did mention weather, but I agree that while I think it was a factor, the consideration that we already have Mayo, Jamail, Blue, Ferguson, Derrick Wilson, and Taylor around for at least his first two seasons is much more of a detractor. He mentioned that Arizona only has three guards and that they told him if he comes in they won't be recruiting any more guards for 2012. Much easier to get playing time in a four-man rotation than a six-man rotation.

Maybe a better way to put it is those other states are "warm" weather but they experience cold temperatures.  The last time it snowed in Orange County was January of 1949.  It snows or ice storms in Dallas typically several times a year.  Houston hits ice storms, etc. 

It's hard to explain, but weather in O.C. or San Diego, etc...it's mind numbingly perfect and boring but perfect nonetheless.  Rarely too hot and rarely too cold.  When you live in this stuff all the time, the prospects of something else don't excite too many folks.  That's why so few people don't want to leave here unless forced out due to economy, better opportunities.


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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2011, 09:18:35 AM »
You live in the that climate and you get used to it.  In Tuscon, there is nothing else but AZ basketball as well.  My
daughter almost went to school there, it is pretty nice.  Can not be upset with his choice.

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2011, 09:30:02 AM »

Or Carmageddon I  ( II...III.......)   ;D

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2011, 09:32:32 AM »
Maybe a better way to put it is those other states are "warm" weather but they experience cold temperatures.  The last time it snowed in Orange County was January of 1949.  It snows or ice storms in Dallas typically several times a year.  Houston hits ice storms, etc. 

It's hard to explain, but weather in O.C. or San Diego, etc...it's mind numbingly perfect and boring but perfect nonetheless.  Rarely too hot and rarely too cold.  When you live in this stuff all the time, the prospects of something else don't excite too many folks.  That's why so few people don't want to leave here unless forced out due to economy, better opportunities.

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All that said, I think that weather was never going to be the primary deterrent. It wasn't in our favor, but when you look at the lineup, it's obvious that he will have less competition for early PT at Arizona than he would here. As far as the Dallas - Milwaukee weather comparison regarding snow...that's like saying a guy from Phoenix would easily adjust to Seattle's rain because he sees rain a few times a year. Dallas' average annual snowfall is 2.5 inches, in recent years, Milwaukee has seen over 100 inches. If guys from Florida, Georgia, and Texas can adjust, so could York.

But I really think this is all about playing time. At Arizona, he's pretty much going to have to play from day one simply because they are leaner on options at his positions. At Marquette, it's entirely possible he could have sat out his entire freshman year, only getting Jamail-type minutes, and we wouldn't have missed a beat.
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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2011, 09:38:50 AM »
Agreed, MU has enough guards, need to quality bigs, at least 1 that will start.

Otule - Gardner
whomever
Wilson - Jones - Ferguson - Anderson
Cadougan - Wilson
Blue -Taylor - Mayo

Looks pretty lonely at the 4 spot!

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2011, 09:43:59 AM »
Crowder is the 4.

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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2011, 09:57:47 AM »
Crowder is the 4.

Uhh...no. This thread is about a 2012 recruit. So in that regard, Crowder isn't the 4, he's graduated.
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Re: Gabe York commits to Zona
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2011, 10:40:55 AM »
Maybe a better way to put it is those other states are "warm" weather but they experience cold temperatures.  The last time it snowed in Orange County was January of 1949.  It snows or ice storms in Dallas typically several times a year.  Houston hits ice storms, etc. 

It's hard to explain, but weather in O.C. or San Diego, etc...it's mind numbingly perfect and boring but perfect nonetheless.  Rarely too hot and rarely too cold.  When you live in this stuff all the time, the prospects of something else don't excite too many folks.  That's why so few people don't want to leave here unless forced out due to economy, better opportunities.



The premise of your post was that until we get a bunch of "warm weather" kids we'll never land them.  We went from a roster in 2007/2008 of players from:

Illinois (Acker, McNeal, Blackledge)
New York (Burke, Hazel, Hayward)
Wisconsin (Matthews, Christopherson)
Minnesota (Fitzgerald, Mbakwe)
Indiana (James)
Senegal & Venezuela (Barro & Cubillan, high school ball played in Illinois & New Jersey)

To a roster currently comprised of players from Texas, Georgia, Florida, California, Virginia, West Virginia/Tennessee, Wisconsin and Canada.  Three of four exiting players are from Texas and the two recruits in the pipeline are from Texas and Virginia.  We're already landing warm weather state kids in droves.  You can admit you made a dumb post, or you can argue that Texas isn't really a warm weather state because it gets "ice storms."