NFC North Pissing Match

[NavinRJohnson]

Most people are saying the division is up for grabs. JB is saying the Vikes are better than everybody else. Is there really that big of a difference? It's not like he's a Lions fan claiming they'll win the division. He's picking one of the 3 toss up teams and saying they are going to win. I don't think it's that bold of a statement.

You are aware of the point of this thread aren't you? Its not that bold, but you seem to be suggesting people shouldn't argue the point.

BTW, as far as the whole betting thing goes, I would get them in before the mods get a hold of this thread,, because given the number of posts about it, the whole thing is probably going to disappear.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

You are aware of the point of this thread aren't you? Its not that bold, but you seem to be suggesting people shouldn't argue the point.

BTW, as far as the whole betting thing goes, I would get them in before the mods get a hold of this thread,, because given the number of posts about it, the whole thing is probably going to disappear.

Fair enough about this being "pissing match". I guess that's what this is, so I need to expect some bitching between fans.

I just checked the thread this morning and saw that it was a "blast Jay Bee for being a moron thread", and I thought I'd defend the guy a little bit.

While I do agree that JB is seeing the world through purple colored glasses, I don't think he's prediction ridiculous. You could make a strong case for the Packers, Bears and Vikes to win the division. He's just making his case for the Vikes.

[MU B2002]

I just checked the thread this morning and saw that it was a "blast Jay Bee for being a moron thread", and I thought I'd defend the guy a little bit.

While I do agree that JB is seeing the world through purple colored glasses, I don't think he's prediction ridiculous. You could make a strong case for the Packers, Bears and Vikes to win the division. He's just making his case for the Vikes.

It is not the content of his prediction that is being blasted by some posters.   It is the manner in which that prediction is being presented.  I have no problem with someone supporting their team, as it is what fans do.  And bitching about the ____ & ____ and their fans is what fans of the ____ do.  (GB / CHI / MIN are interchangeable here.)  It is going to be a very close division this year, and should make for an interesting thread.

And if you notice, JB seems more than capable of defending himself.

[IAmMarquette]

Right, because everyone know that anyone who watches Fox News is a racist homophobe. Well...those oh so  tolerant liberals know that anyway.

Haha...exactly.

[jmayer1]

Fair enough about this being "pissing match". I guess that's what this is, so I need to expect some bitching between fans.

I just checked the thread this morning and saw that it was a "blast Jay Bee for being a moron thread", and I thought I'd defend the guy a little bit.

While I do agree that JB is seeing the world through purple colored glasses, I don't think he's prediction ridiculous. You could make a strong case for the Packers, Bears and Vikes to win the division. He's just making his case for the Vikes.

I think it's the fact that JB acts like the Vikings are the far and away, consensus favorites (which they are clearly not) that rubs people the wrong way.  That, in addition to the fact he resorts to personal attacks at times, irritates people.

[Hards Alumni]

ding ding ding!

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I think it's the fact that JB acts like the Vikings are the far and away, consensus favorites (which they are clearly not) that rubs people the wrong way.  That, in addition to the fact he resorts to personal attacks at times, irritates people.

Ahhh... good point.

But, it was just pointed out to me in a previous post that this is a "pissing match", so I guess we should expect JB to be irritating and make personal attacks, and in return, I should expect people to attack him.

It's a pissing match.

No real point in trying to be logical, I guess. This isn't the "let's be logical and accurate about our favorite football team" thread.

I was wrong for saying anything. Jay Bee, you are on your own.

Piss on everybody!

Vikes Rule!

[IAmMarquette]

I think it's the fact that JB acts like the Vikings are the far and away, consensus favorites (which they are clearly not) that rubs people the wrong way.  That, in addition to the fact he resorts to personal attacks at times, irritates people.

Correction.

[DegenerateDish]

I'll throw my predictions for the North out there now.

Bears  10-6
Packers  10-6
Vikings   9-7
Lions  4-12

The homer in me says the Bears win some crazy tiebreaker to take the division. I think both teams split their regular season games against one another.

[NavinRJohnson]

I guess I'll go on record with a prediction as well....

Packers 11-5
Vikings 10-6
Bears 9-7

I suspect the difference maker will largely be a Packers sweep of the Bears...I guess I just see Rodgers and those WRs and TEs, destroying the Bears secondary early and often.

GB vs:
Bears 2-0
Vikings 1-1
Lions 2-0

Chi vs:
Packers 0-2
Vikings 1-1
Lions: 2-0

Minn vs:
Packers 1-1
Bears 1-1
Lions 2-0

[MU B2002]

Don't want to be left out like the Packers in the playoff chase...

Chicago            11-5 (4-2 Div )
Minnesota         11-5 (3-3 Div)
Green Bay          10-6
Detroit               5-11


Damn you Peter King...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/main/index.html?eref=sihpT1

Summary: 3 NFC north teams make the divisional round, NFC championship is CHI V GB with CHI losing to NE in the superbowl.

[Moonboots]

Damn you Peter King...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/main/index.html?eref=sihpT1

Summary: 3 NFC north teams make the divisional round, NFC championship is CHI V GB with CHI losing to NE in the superbowl.

Now THAT is ballsy stuff. Though I wouldn't appreciate that result, this would make for quite a season in the NFC North.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

2 things:

1) Minn officially has the worst fan base in the NFC North and maybe the league:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/56118827.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiU9PmP:QiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

2) Predictions:

GB 11-5
MIN 9-7
CHI 8-8
DET 4-12

[Hards Alumni]

Now THAT is ballsy stuff. Though I wouldn't appreciate that result, this would make for quite a season in the NFC North.

Peter King has always loved the Packers though.

and he is a moron.

[NavinRJohnson]

Peter King has always loved the Packers' former quarterback though.

and he is a moron.

Fixed.

[GOMU1104]

1) Minn officially has the worst fan base in the NFC North and maybe the league:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/56118827.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiU9PmP:QiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

NFC North, yes.

League, no. Jacksonville Jaguars take the cake there.

[Moonboots]

2 things:

1) Minn officially has the worst fan base in the NFC North and maybe the league:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/56118827.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiU9PmP:QiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

But if you ask Jay Bee, they've sold out 115 consecutive games, or whatever.  Those are his "facts".  I guess the caveat is that there is a distinct difference between selling out games and filling the stadium with fans...

[Jay Bee]

But if you ask Jay Bee, they've sold out 115 consecutive games, or whatever.  Those are his "facts".  I guess the caveat is that there is a distinct difference between selling out games and filling the stadium with fans...

  They have.  It's factual and verifiable.  In addition, Goddell just was spouting off this week about how many teams may find trouble in filling up their stadiums this year: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=8462898

  If you had been at any of those 115 consecutive sellouts, you would have seen a packed stadium, simple as that.  Sure, there's been a handful of times when corporate sponsors came in to help and gave tickets to disadvantaged youth organizations, etc... you 'Packer Backers' better hope you never have a close call when it comes to selling out the stadium (which is doubtful, what else is there to do in Wisconsin?!?!)... kinda difficult to have a corporate sponsor help out the home team when the biggest corporate sponsor is a convenience store with a few nickel slots in it. 

  By the way, the Fox News Channel 'borderline political links' (pfffffft) are from a show I write stupid stuff for [Red Eye, M-F with replays on the weekend], including a couple intros in this clip from last night's / this morning's show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3oXxJw5Ceg

  The consensus is out and it is the best show on TV, similar to the Vikings being the consensus #1 in the NFC North. 

[Moonboots]

  They have.  It's factual and verifiable.  In addition, Goddell just was spouting off this week about how many teams may find trouble in filling up their stadiums this year: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=8462898

  If you had been at any of those 115 consecutive sellouts, you would have seen a packed stadium, simple as that.  Sure, there's been a handful of times when corporate sponsors came in to help and gave tickets to disadvantaged youth organizations, etc... you 'Packer Backers' better hope you never have a close call when it comes to selling out the stadium (which is doubtful, what else is there to do in Wisconsin?!?!)... kinda difficult to have a corporate sponsor help out the home team when the biggest corporate sponsor is a convenience store with a few nickel slots in it. 

  By the way, the Fox News Channel 'borderline political links' (pfffffft) are from a show I write stupid stuff for [Red Eye, M-F with replays on the weekend], including a couple intros in this clip from last night's / this morning's show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3oXxJw5Ceg

  The consensus is out and it is the best show on TV, similar to the Vikings being the consensus #1 in the NFC North. 

So writing stupid stuff isn't just a hobby on this board, you write stupid stuff elsewhere too?

No, the Packers will never have a scare about filling up Lambeau Field, because it's the CONSENSUS pick for best stadium in the National Football League.

Convenience store?  How about Miller Brewing Company, Onieda Nation Casino, Verizon Wireless, Associated Bank and Coca-Cola? Those sound like nice little mom-and-pop places. 

[jmayer1]

  They have.  It's factual and verifiable.  In addition, Goddell just was spouting off this week about how many teams may find trouble in filling up their stadiums this year: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=8462898

  If you had been at any of those 115 consecutive sellouts, you would have seen a packed stadium, simple as that.  Sure, there's been a handful of times when corporate sponsors came in to help and gave tickets to disadvantaged youth organizations, etc... you 'Packer Backers' better hope you never have a close call when it comes to selling out the stadium (which is doubtful, what else is there to do in Wisconsin?!?!)... kinda difficult to have a corporate sponsor help out the home team when the biggest corporate sponsor is a convenience store with a few nickel slots in it. 

  By the way, the Fox News Channel 'borderline political links' (pfffffft) are from a show I write stupid stuff for [Red Eye, M-F with replays on the weekend], including a couple intros in this clip from last night's / this morning's show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3oXxJw5Ceg

  The consensus is out and it is the best show on TV, similar to the Vikings being the consensus #1 in the NFC North. 

Hahahahahahaha, man you must be slow.  3/4 full is not packed smart guy. The Packers and Bears pull in more for a PRESEASON game than the Vikings can for a PLAYOFF game!!!!

That clip was awwwwfullll, so have all the other ones you've put up from that show.  Of course, if you write for it that would make sense.

ESPN and SI came out with their NFL preview magazines this week, guess who neither of them picked to win the NFC Central?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/main/index.html?eref=sihpT1

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4433532

If anybody is the consensus pick, I guess it would be the Bears since 3/4 preview magazines I've picked up so far have had them winning (and GB was picked 1st in the other one).

[Moonboots]

Hahahahahahaha, man you must be slow.  3/4 full is not packed smart guy. The Packers and Bears pull in more for a PRESEASON game than the Vikings can for a PLAYOFF game!!!!

That clip was awwwwfullll, so have all the other ones you've put up from that show.  Of course, if you write for it that would make sense.

ESPN and SI came out with their NFL preview magazines this week, guess who neither of them picked to win the NFC Central?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/main/index.html?eref=sihpT1

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4433532

If anybody is the consensus pick, I guess it would be the Bears since 3/4 preview magazines I've picked up so far have had them winning (and GB was picked 1st in the other one).

You better edit this to say "NFC North" and not "NFC Central" or Jay Bee will harp on that for the entirety of his next post and completely ignore the fact that you've turned his entire argument on its head.

[Jay Bee]

  Sounds to me like two young boys who think 'SI' and 'ESPN the magazine' have a clue or much relevance.  There will always be fringe nutcases that don't agree with the consensus, and there will always be retards that use them in their arguments.  I understand.  Good luck.  Up the ante, PXI, or just make a bet jgayer1.  BTW, it's pretty cool you pick up so many NFL preview magazines. 

[Moonboots]

  Sounds to me like two young boys who think 'SI' and 'ESPN the magazine' have a clue or much relevance.  There will always be fringe nutcases that don't agree with the consensus, and there will always be retards that use them in their arguments.  I understand.  Good luck.  Up the ante, PXI, or just make a bet jgayer1.  BTW, it's pretty cool you pick up so many NFL preview magazines. 

Yes. Relevance.  Like Jay Bee's NFL Preview And Circus Act.  It could be a new segment on Red Eye.  You could start with this.

Let's talk running back - AD is the man.  Chest.T is the best 'backup.  Maybe you want to talk D-line.  Kevin and Pat.  Jared.  What more is there?  QB?  The hall of famer vs. the jagface that Denver hated, or the 'stud' that got you 6 wins?  F outta here.

There's a fringe nutcase spewing garbage regarding NFL teams, and it's not SI or ESPN.

Maybe if you put a little NFL talk in that show of yours, you could stop being a Hardball with Chris Matthews wannabe and boost your ratings to somewhere between NBC's "Poker After Dark" and the latest Golden Girls reruns.  Consider it.

[IAmMarquette]

  Sounds to me like two young boys who think 'SI' and 'ESPN the magazine' have a clue or much relevance.  There will always be fringe nutcases that don't agree with the consensus, and there will always be retards that use them in their arguments.  I understand.  Good luck.  Up the ante, PXI, or just make a bet jgayer1.  BTW, it's pretty cool you pick up so many NFL preview magazines. 

If they don't agree, it's not a consensus. BOOM! Roasted. Again.

[Jay Bee]

If they don't agree, it's not a consensus. BOOM! Roasted. Again.

  Oh, really?  Consensus must mean something different in 'retard', then, because 'consensus' does not require 100% agreement.  BOOM! Roast deez.