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Ok .. so true or false, a COVID anti-body test .. after 20 days, 200 days will they be able to detect COVID antibodies / is it harder to detect / more false positives/negatives?
Good news and bad news.There are currently 5 vaccines in clinical trials and 71 vaccines in pre-clinical trials (end of good news). But if even one of them makes in to market in 12-18 months, it would be the quickest turnaround in history. The record for fastest vaccine is 4 years for the Mumps back in the 60s. For Ebola, a vaccine took 5 years.Normally, a vaccine takes 8-10 years. With the amount of work being done for this one, though, 18 months may be achievable.We don't even know what type of vaccine will work best as there are different ways of attacking it, but vaccines are a different animal than medicines. You are not trying to cure people, so in a healthy population, you don't want the vaccine to have negative consequences. Thus the human clinical trials take the longest.Phase 1 - testing on healthy volunteers for serious side effects.Phase 2 - smaller studies of efficacy, looking at best dosages and scheduling of dosages.Phase 3 - large field studies. Using a control group and looking for side effects and at what dosages they occur.So, once again, this shows the lunacy of our leader when he says we may have a vaccine in a few months. Not just lunacy, but flat out lying as he has been told different by the scientists.One last bit of good news - medical treatments may well be available much sooner for seriously ill patients.
This for the Mods:Hmm... no discussion on Biden (thread locked) , but free to criticize Trump. Again what happen to no politics. A lot of the discussion is not about vaccines, but to point out that the President is obviously not a clinical scientist. Yet there're those here who think a guy who can't put 3 sentences together would handle this situation any better. Just think about that. He is the alternative. Now I hope we can return to a sound scientific discussion about vacines and therapies to treat this awful virus without all the political finger pointing.
You aren't wrong, but Trump is the one in charge. The decider. The one where the buck stops. And criticizing a sitting president has been a national pastime since we have had presidents. The solution for you should be to make a cogent, fact based, no campaign talking point, case that the federal response has been timely, appropriate, and effective. Shut up the complainers.
There is a differnce between critcizing the president, feds, governors, mayors, etc. and the gratuitous political commentary from the likes of jockitch, tsmith, wades, Dad, and nads82.There are plenty of left leaning posters that can accomplish the first point without resorting to the 2nd. Likewise, there are plenty of opposing viewpoints that also cant resist the commentary (myself included), but that has been predominantly in repsonse to the poo tossing from the above 5.
You know what you could do? You could try to refute what you see as gratuitous political commentary instead of crying like a child. You could make an argument as to why the response to the pandemic has been good, point out all the wonderful things that have been done, make some suggestions on what could be done in the future.Heck, you could even add to the thread by pointing out research and other developments that are occurring, trends that are showing up, or how you see it playing out as states re-open. But instead of doing that 99% of your posts alternate between content free snips and whining to the mods. Instead of being a complete snowflake, maybe try contributing something and stop sobbing about those that do.
You can also pm your daily koz talking points to your pals too and respect rocky and topper's request to keep the politics out.But personal accountability and self control is something you clearly lack.
To take it a step further, if Biden was doing what our current POTUS is doing, he'd be getting criticized the same way from me.
Back on topic, some potential good news. South Korea says recovered coronavirus patients who tested positive again did not relapse: Tests picked up 'dead virus fragments'https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korea-says-recovered-coronavirus-133600512.htmlExperts in South Korea said that recovered coronavirus patients who tested positive again were not reinfected and that their virus was not reactivated, as was previously feared.
I am right there with you. I salute Hogan and Dewine. I may not vote for them, but when safe again I would like to shake their hand. And if I were less than enthralled with their opponent, I would reward their leadership with my vote. I am a bleeding heart, but a pragmatic one and I appreciate leadership.
I was reading today that Gov Hogan was keeping the tests he bought from South Korea under armed guard because he didn't want Trump trying to steal from the states again.
Yashar Ali 🐘 @yasharNEWS: Pfizer and German pharmaceutical company BioNTech announced that their potential coronavirus vaccine began human trials in the United States on Monday. If tests are successful, the vaccine could be ready for emergency use here as early as September nytimes.com/2020/05/05/hea…
That is insanely fast. Hope everything works out with it and its safe, effective, and scalable.