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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: warriorchick on October 18, 2017, 12:58:50 PM
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Okay, since none of y'all think it was important enough to get this thread started - what with all the breaking news about meat smoking and fishing - I decided to.
The women's team is going to be amazing this year and we should start giving them the recognition they deserve.
Let's begin with this -
In the preseason coached poll, Marquette was the unanimous choice to win the conference.
Allazia Blockton was named preseason Player of the Year
Two other MU players - Erica Davenport and Natasha Heideman - were named Preseason All Big East.
Don't you think they deserve at least as much love as the golf team?
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/101817aaa.html
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Yeah they do but sadly Women’s ball is already decided year in and year out with UConn winning it All and it’s not even close.
Happy for the ladies but that’s an insurmountable mountain they have to climb
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Yeah they do but sadly Women’s ball is already decided year in and year out with UConn winning it All and it’s not even close.
Happy for the ladies but that’s an insurmountable mountain they have to climb
South Carolina is on line 1.
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Yeah they do but sadly Women’s ball is already decided year in and year out with UConn winning it All and it’s not even close.
Happy for the ladies but that’s an insurmountable mountain they have to climb
So it's not interesting at all unless you think they have a chance to win the national championship?
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year in and year out with UConn winning it All and it’s not even close.
Didn't UCONN lose in the title game last year?
EDIT: Just checked. Didn't even make it to title game.
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Chick and I have decided to get season tickets this year. The ladies are going to be great. Even if we only get to 4-5 games when their schedule lines up reasonably well with the guys it'll be worth our commitment.
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Coach Kieger was a helluva a hire. I'm excited to watch the ladies dominate all year.
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Not only this year, as the team is entirely made up of juniors. Add Tori McCoy into the picture next year (a former five star recruit who transferred from Ohio St.) to the current core, and Marquette may have two legitimate final four caliber teams in 2018-19.
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Not only this year, as the team is entirely made up of juniors. Add Tori McCoy into the picture next year (a former five star recruit who transferred from Ohio St.) to the current core, and Marquette may have two legitimate final four caliber teams in 2018-19.
So you're saying I have still have plenty of time to become a bandwagon fan.
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So you're saying I have still have plenty of time to become a bandwagon fan.
Might as well get a spot in the front seat. ;D
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Didn't UCONN lose in the title game last year?
EDIT: Just checked. Didn't even make it to title game.
19 final fours in the past 26 years and 11 titles but you’re focused on them not making the title game last year?
So it's not interesting at all unless you think they have a chance to win the national championship?
I watch the DePaul games every year but it all just seams pointless when you have UConn and UT combine for 17 of the past 26 titles. You can argue about our men’s team not having a shot at the title every year but at least there’s variation that can still give hope for one of those miracle runs in the tournament.
Note that this is not an indictment of women’s sports just this level of dominance
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Chick and I have decided to get season tickets this year. The ladies are going to be great. Even if we only get to 4-5 games when their schedule lines up reasonably well with the guys it'll be worth our commitment.
I believe you get a point for women's season tickets added on to your men's bb account.
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I really appreciate Women's basketball. I go watch a couple of MAC-level games during the season just for fun. I am looking for defensive techniques and offensive sets that I can teach the grade school teams I coach. Being on the wrong side of the lake, I only see MU ladies when they are on TV. I hope they live up to expectations.
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I believe you get a point for women's season tickets added on to your men's bb account.
Yep. Don't know the exact calculation but do get points.
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Okay, since none of y'all think it was important enough to get this thread started - what with all the breaking news about meat smoking and fishing - I decided to.
The women's team is going to be amazing this year and we should start giving them the recognition they deserve.
Let's begin with this -
In the preseason coached poll, Marquette was the unanimous choice to win the conference.
Allazia Blockton was named preseason Player of the Year
Two other MU players - Erica Davenport and Natasha Heideman - were named Preseason All Big East.
Don't you think they deserve at least as much love as the golf team?
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/101817aaa.html
I do! YOU GO, GIRL(S)!!
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I believe you get a point for women's season tickets added on to your men's bb account.
A general admission season ticket is $55. By far the cheapest way to pick up points. And it's cumulative in the same way men's season ticket points are.
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A general admission season ticket is $55. By far the cheapest way to pick up points. And it's cumulative in the same way men's season ticket points are.
I'm in. It will be a very fun year.
Speaking of points, Nova announced yesterday that it is moving to a points based seating system for the re-done Feinerman Pavilion. And they do include Women's bball and Lax season ticket holders for points [including one time "accumulated points credit" for having season tix WBB and several other sports for as far back as they have ticket records: 3 (in the case of Lax), 10 (WBB) or 45 (MBB) years etc.]. Also, people on the waitlist gets points for each year they have been on the list.
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19 final fours in the past 26 years and 11 titles but you’re focused on them not making the title game last year?
I watch the DePaul games every year but it all just seams pointless when you have UConn and UT combine for 17 of the past 26 titles. You can argue about our men’s team not having a shot at the title every year but at least there’s variation that can still give hope for one of those miracle runs in the tournament.
Note that this is not an indictment of women’s sports just this level of dominance
I take it, then, that if you had graduated from Marquette in the 60's instead of the 2010's you would have had no interest in Marquette Men's basketball until after John Wooden retired.
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Didn't UCONN lose in the title game last year?
EDIT: Just checked. Didn't even make it to title game.
Geno said it was a rebuilding year before the season started last year as the UConn ladies were lead by Freshman. They still extended their consecutive winning streak to 111 straight games until loosing in the FF.
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I take it, then, that if you had graduated from Marquette in the 60's instead of the 2010's you would have had no interest in Marquette Men's basketball until after John Wooden retired.
Good question, guess I’ll never know
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I take it, then, that if you had graduated from Marquette in the 60's instead of the 2010's you would have had no interest in Marquette Men's basketball until after John Wooden retired.
My thoughts exactly. Why route for the Cubs when the Yankees have been in the post season more than half the time over the last century and won the WS more than a quarter of the time.
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I'm also a first time season ticket holder. Should be very good, think the next two years will be incredible to watch.
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We have been Season tix holders for over 10 years. In the beginning I wasn't that hep on womens BB. But it grew on me and I love going. Its even more of a treat sitting right behind the bench like 2 rows up. I can hear some of what they are doing. Its fun. I highly recommend getting tix. Patience is paying off as Coach Carolyn has really brought exciting BB to the AL.. I spoke to her right after she was hired and she said, be patient, you're gonna love our brand of BB. It is great.. 8-)
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My thoughts exactly. Why route for the Cubs when the Yankees have been in the post season more than half the time over the last century and won the WS more than a quarter of the time.
If they become legitimate title threats like the cubs did I’ll start watching more than the annual DePaul games then. Till then consider me annoyed that WBB is essentially a college version of the NBA in terms of talent distribution.
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I'm also a first time season ticket holder. Should be very good, think the next two years will be incredible to watch.
That's excellent to hear! The women need our support.
Women's Basketball Season Ticket Prices
Lower Chair Back Reserved - $100
Lower Bench & Upper (General Admission) - $50
'Family Plan' - Includes 4 season tickets (2 adult, 2 youth) $125 - General Admission
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That's excellent to hear! The women need our support.
Women's Basketball Season Ticket Prices
Lower Chair Back Reserved - $100
Lower Bench & Upper (General Admission) - $50
'Family Plan' - Includes 4 season tickets (2 adult, 2 youth) $125 - General Admission
Thanks for the clarification - I should have known better not to quote the price from memory....
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I definitely plan on supporting our Lady Warriors!! BE Champions!!! WE ARE MARQUETTE!!!
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The women's team is ranked 19th in USA Today's poll, the highest preseason ranking ever in the program's history:
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-women/polls/coaches-poll/2017/1/
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The women's team is ranked 19th in USA Today's poll, the highest preseason ranking ever in the program's history:
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-women/polls/coaches-poll/2017/1/
Alright alright alright. They have three huge opportunities to build that in non-conference play. They take on #18 Tennessee in Cancun and get #5 Notre Dame and #23 Michigan, unfortunately both on the road. If they can somehow win two of those three and continue their domination of the Big East, we could be talking about a top 10 team by season's end.
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Hmm...will we have a Lady Warrior/Eagles day game thread, will Tower give is his thoughts of the game, will we have a lady stud of the game, will glow start a lady recruiting thread, will scoop have a lady scholarship table and schedule, will TAMU give us game by game press-season preview? If not is this a Title IX violation?
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Hmm...will we have a Lady Warrior/Eagles day game thread, will Tower give is his thoughts of the game, will we have a lady stud of the game, will glow start a lady recruiting thread, will scoop have a lady scholarship table and schedule, will TAMU give us game by game press-season preview? If not is this a Title IX violation?
Why would you post this
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Hmm...will we have a Lady Warrior/Eagles day game thread, will Tower give is his thoughts of the game, will we have a lady stud of the game, will glow start a lady recruiting thread, will scoop have a lady scholarship table and schedule, will TAMU give us game by game press-season preview? If not is this a Title IX violation?
My takes are good, but I'm pretty sure they aren't funded by the federal government.
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Hmm...will we have a Lady Warrior/Eagles day game thread, will Tower give is his thoughts of the game, will we have a lady stud of the game, will glow start a lady recruiting thread, will scoop have a lady scholarship table and schedule, will TAMU give us game by game press-season preview? If not is this a Title IX violation?
Just to be clear here, the only women's basketball team that likes to be referred to as "ladies" is the Lady Vols, and that's only because of tradition, and probably to a point, irony.
Treat these women with a little respect, okay fellas? I am sure they could kick the asses of most of you out there. :-*
In a non-athletic situation, it's probably fine.
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Hmm...will we have a Lady Warrior/Eagles day game thread, will Tower give is his thoughts of the game, will we have a lady stud of the game, will glow start a lady recruiting thread, will scoop have a lady scholarship table and schedule, will TAMU give us game by game press-season preview? If not is this a Title IX violation?
I get the attempt at humor here.
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Just to be clear here, the only women's basketball team that likes to be referred to as "ladies" is the Lady Vols, and that's only because of tradition, and probably to a point, irony.
Treat these women with a little respect, okay fellas? I am sure they could kick the asses of most of you out there. :-*
In a non-athletic situation, it's probably fine.
Well I guess I was brought up wrong as my mother always taught me to treat a Lady/woman with respect; and my questions were asked to show a sign of respect or are we going to just ignore the women here like we usually do. My Title IX question was tongue in cheek or foot in mouth depending on how you want to take it.
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I get the attempt at humor here.
Thanks, but to the point.
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Well I guess I was brought up wrong as my mother always taught me to treat a Lady/woman with respect; and my questions were asked to show a sign of respect or are we going to just ignore the women here like we usually do. My Title IX question was tongue in cheek or foot in mouth depending on how you want to take it.
+1 I was brought up to believe that Lady is about the most respectful term you could use for a woman. It is the female equivalent of gentleman, I would think. It never would have occurred to me that the term is not respectful to a female athlete. (Plus, Fairfield U's woman's team is the Lady Stags, so that's at least two sets of ladies that don't mind, not to mention the Ladies championships at Wimbledon).
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+1 I was brought up to believe that Lady is about the most respectful term you could use for a woman. It is the female equivalent of gentleman, I would think. It never would have occurred to me that the term is not respectful to a female athlete. (Plus, Fairfield U's woman's team is the Lady Stags, so that's at least two sets of ladies that don't mind, not to mention the Ladies championships at Wimbledon).
Just as in a lot of other things, context is important. If you are discussing female people in a social setting, for example, referring to them as "ladies" is usually perfectly fine. However, if you are talking about them in regards to an area where they have traditionally been marginalized, such as athletics or the business word, using the word "lady" can be seen as condescending or dismissive. It's why you don't use the term "lady doctor" or "businesslady". It means, "Yeah, she's a doctor, but she's a lady doctor".
This is an imperfect analogy, but I think this is similar: I have heard African American men refer to their group of friends as "my boys". But if a boss pointed over to a group of African American men that he supervises and said "Those are my boys", I don't think it would be taken the same way.
And just like the Lady Vols, the Ladies' championship at Wimbledon keeps the name because of tradition. The NAACP hasn't changed its name either.
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+1 I was brought up to believe that Lady is about the most respectful term you could use for a woman. It is the female equivalent of gentleman, I would think. It never would have occurred to me that the term is not respectful to a female athlete. (Plus, Fairfield U's woman's team is the Lady Stags, so that's at least two sets of ladies that don't mind, not to mention the Ladies championships at Wimbledon).
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If this offends anyone they are looking for a reason to be offended.....
Best of luck to the Lady Eagles this season!
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If this offends anyone they are looking for a reason to be offended.....
Best of luck to the Lady Eagles this season!
Who are the Eagles?
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If this offends anyone they are looking for a reason to be offended.....
Best of luck to the Lady Eagles this season!
No. If someone is offended it is because they are offended. The example Chick gave was spot on. You wouldn't refer to a female doctor as a lady doctor. Fair or not, the cultural implication is that they are somehow a lesser doctor. You don't go around calling male doctors "a gentleman doctor" or "man doctor." And if you did, the cultural implication wouldn't be taken as a negative. Talk to someone who has served with female soldiers. Many of them if not most would correct you if you called them a lady soldier and say "no, I'm a soldier." If you then continued to insist that they were a lady soldier many of them would then put you on your arse.
In most contexts, the term lady is absolutely a compliment. In some, it is not.
Here's the important part. Why get mad at someone for being offended? If the person is blowing it out of proportion and turning around and labeling you a bigot or something, sure I understand that. But if someone just says, "actually I prefer not to be called a lady." Why not just shrug and say "OK" and stop calling them a lady? If your goal is to compliment them, why insist on calling them something that they don't find complimentary?
I haven't actually spoken to any of the current members of the women's team, maybe they would like being called the Lady Golden Eagles. Everyone is different. But from my experience of working with several female athletes (my current supervisor was a collegiate volleyball player) and hundreds of women throughout my life, I would guess that they would be more honored and complimented if you just referred to them as Golden Eagles.
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No. If someone is offended it is because they are offended. The example Chick gave was spot on. You wouldn't refer to a female doctor as a lady doctor. Fair or not, the cultural implication is that they are somehow a lesser doctor. You don't go around calling male doctors "a gentleman doctor" or "man doctor." And if you did, the cultural implication wouldn't be taken as a negative. Talk to someone who has served with female soldiers. Many of them if not most would correct you if you called them a lady soldier and say "no, I'm a soldier." If you then continued to insist that they were a lady soldier many of them would then put you on your arse.
In most contexts, the term lady is absolutely a compliment. In some, it is not.
Here's the important part. Why get mad at someone for being offended? If the person is blowing it out of proportion and turning around and labeling you a bigot or something, sure I understand that. But if someone just says, "actually I prefer not to be called a lady." Why not just shrug and say "OK" and stop calling them a lady? If your goal is to compliment them, why insist on calling them something that they don't find complimentary?
I haven't actually spoken to any of the current members of the women's team, maybe they would like being called the Lady Golden Eagles. Everyone is different. But from my experience of working with several female athletes (my current supervisor was a collegiate volleyball player) and hundreds of women throughout my life, I would guess that they would be more honored and complimented if you just referred to them as Golden Eagles.
So when do we get the pre-season game by game preview for the women Golden Eagles?
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So when do we get the pre-season game by game preview for the women Golden Eagles?
You don't. My writing is a hobby that I do for free and while I do follow and cheer for the women's team, I am more passionate and knowledgeable about the men's team. You don't have to be passionate about something in order to show it respect.
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Alright alright alright. They have three huge opportunities to build that in non-conference play. They take on #18 Tennessee in Cancun and get #5 Notre Dame and #23 Michigan, unfortunately both on the road. If they can somehow win two of those three and continue their domination of the Big East, we could be talking about a top 10 team by season's end.
Last year in November they beat ASU which was ranked 18 at the time at the Al. Then followed that up 4 days later with a win against #15 Oregon State in Oregon.
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Just as in a lot of other things, context is important. If you are discussing female people in a social setting, for example, referring to them as "ladies" is usually perfectly fine. However, if you are talking about them in regards to an area where they have traditionally been marginalized, such as athletics or the business word, using the word "lady" can be seen as condescending or dismissive. It's why you don't use the term "lady doctor" or "businesslady". It means, "Yeah, she's a doctor, but she's a lady doctor".
This is an imperfect analogy, but I think this is similar: I have heard African American men refer to their group of friends as "my boys". But if a boss pointed over to a group of African American men that he supervises and said "Those are my boys", I don't think it would be taken the same way.
And just like the Lady Vols, the Ladies' championship at Wimbledon keeps the name because of tradition. The NAACP hasn't changed its name either.
What about apples?
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What about apples?
Pink ladies may or may not be offensive.
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Just as in a lot of other things, context is important. If you are discussing female people in a social setting, for example, referring to them as "ladies" is usually perfectly fine. However, if you are talking about them in regards to an area where they have traditionally been marginalized, such as athletics or the business word, using the word "lady" can be seen as condescending or dismissive. It's why you don't use the term "lady doctor" or "businesslady". It means, "Yeah, she's a doctor, but she's a lady doctor".
This is an imperfect analogy, but I think this is similar: I have heard African American men refer to their group of friends as "my boys". But if a boss pointed over to a group of African American men that he supervises and said "Those are my boys", I don't think it would be taken the same way.
And just like the Lady Vols, the Ladies' championship at Wimbledon keeps the name because of tradition. The NAACP hasn't changed its name either.
How about “when do the chick’s play?”
“Did the chicks win tonight?”
“You going to see the chicks tonight?”
I’m quite certain some chicks would find this language more condescending and disrespectful than “lady.”
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Just to be clear here, the only women's basketball team that likes to be referred to as "ladies" is the Lady Vols, and that's only because of tradition, and probably to a point, irony.
Treat these women with a little respect, okay fellas? I am sure they could kick the asses of most of you out there. :-*
In a non-athletic situation, it's probably fine.
Oh GTFO with this garbage. If you've been around women's sports at a level higher than junior high, you'd notice that it is very common for a group of female athletes to be referred to as "ladies". You've mentioned you bought season tickets for the women's team this year. I guarantee Coach Kieger refers to her team as "ladies" in huddles and when calling out instructions from the sidelines.
I do agree that is dumb to add "Lady" before the mascot name.
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Oh GTFO with this garbage. If you've been around women's sports at a level higher than junior high, you'd notice that it is very common for a group of female athletes to be referred to as "ladies". You've mentioned you bought season tickets for the women's team this year. I guarantee Coach Kieger refers to her team as "ladies" in huddles and when calling out instructions from the sidelines.
I do agree that is dumb to add "Lady" before the mascot name.
If you can find one article or Coach Kieger quote in which the women's basketball team is referred to as "ladies", I will retract my statement.
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How about “when do the chick’s play?”
“Did the chicks win tonight?”
“You going to see the chicks tonight?”
I’m quite certain some chicks would find this language more condescending and disrespectful than “lady.”
I imagine they would too. Good thing no one here has referred to them as chicks.
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If you can find one article or Coach Kieger quote in which the women's basketball team is referred to as "ladies", I will retract my statement.
Well, a quick search reveals she uses "ladies" to refer to members of the team...
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/111315aac.html
"I am confident everyone one of these ladies will leave their mark on our culture, team and community. Our family has gotten bigger and better and I couldn’t be more thrilled.”
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If you can find one article or Coach Kieger quote in which the women's basketball team is referred to as "ladies", I will retract my statement.
https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/663444723760308224
https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/654375804055457792
https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/769402712131772416 (Granted this one is referring to the volleyball team)
https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/676173367851032577
How do those look from up on your high horse?
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Poor women even get referred to as "girls" here (~3:18). I wish the coach would show them some respect.
https://youtube.com/v/dVYbrkicOXg?t=3m15s
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Let’s just refer to them as babes and be done with all this nonsense.
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Da Marquette WarriorChicks, ey?
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Just as in a lot of other things, context is important. If you are discussing female people in a social setting, for example, referring to them as "ladies" is usually perfectly fine. However, if you are talking about them in regards to an area where they have traditionally been marginalized, such as athletics or the business word, using the word "lady" can be seen as condescending or dismissive. It's why you don't use the term "lady doctor" or "businesslady". It means, "Yeah, she's a doctor, but she's a lady doctor".
This is an imperfect analogy, but I think this is similar: I have heard African American men refer to their group of friends as "my boys". But if a boss pointed over to a group of African American men that he supervises and said "Those are my boys", I don't think it would be taken the same way.
And just like the Lady Vols, the Ladies' championship at Wimbledon keeps the name because of tradition. The NAACP hasn't changed its name either.
JC! Are we serious here??!! Offended just to be offended. This is absolutely pathetic take your outrage and apply it somewhere where it might actually help better something. The poster(s) was making a decent anf respectful post and we fly off the handle. Pathetic. Happy Halloween
Maybe we should target our coach and get her fired for her clear atrocities against womanhood!! She is the really perp here, the evidence is clear and overwhelming. Outraged women unite to tear down this double agent planted to continue the harm and disrespect directed towards women with the use of this vile word!!!
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I imagine they would too. Good thing no one here has referred to them as chicks.
So some refer to themselves as a chick, but shout from the mountain tops on how to respectfully refer to women.
Interesting.
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So some refer to themselves as a chick, but shout from the mountain tops on how to respectfully refer to women.
Interesting.
BINGO!
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So some refer to themselves as a chick, but shout from the mountain tops on how to respectfully refer to women.
Interesting.
I allow my acquaintances to call me "chick", but I would not want to be referred to that in a formal senting.
But then again I am sure you get that, and just want to argue with me.
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Chickeepooo
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https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/663444723760308224
https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/654375804055457792
https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/769402712131772416 (Granted this one is referring to the volleyball team)
https://twitter.com/ckieger/status/676173367851032577
How do those look from up on your high horse?
Wow, thanks for these. You have paid more attention to the women's basketball team just to prove me wrong than you have for any other reason.
Okay, I retract my statement. Call them whatever you want.
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Women’s team is pretty darn tough. Go Warriors!!!
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Wow, thanks for these. You have paid more attention to the women's basketball team just to prove me wrong than you have for any other reason.
Okay, I retract my statement. Call them whatever you want.
Or maybe I had a small role with the women’s team while I was in school and am a fan of both Marquette basketball teams. But please keep telling me about my own interests.
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Wow, thanks for these. You have paid more attention to the women's basketball team just to prove me wrong than you have for any other reason.
Okay, I retract my statement. Call them whatever you want.
I want to apologize as it was my post that started this whole mess. I meant no offense.
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There's a difference between what friends, acquaintances, and coaches refer to each other as and what others call someone in a formal setting. If you don't believe me, try telling the next female officer who pull you over a "lady cop" and see how she responds. It's also different when another woman refers to a woman as something than when a man does. Context matters.
JC! Are we serious here??!! Offended just to be offended. This is absolutely pathetic take your outrage and apply it somewhere where it might actually help better something. The poster(s) was making a decent anf respectful post and we fly off the handle. Pathetic.
What outrage and flying off the handle? Chick calmly pointed out that our women's team is not the "Lady Golden Eagles" but the Golden Eagles. No one attacked anyone, labeled anyone, or was outraged. Just pointed something out. It was all the responses to that which contained outrage and flying off the handle.
Instead of anger, try listening to Chick. She is one of what? Like three active female posters on this site? I think she has more insight on this topic than any of us bums do.
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Just out of curiosity did anyone refer to the women’s soccer or lacrosse teams as lady Golden Eagles? Or is this purely a basketball thing?
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There's a difference between what friends, acquaintances, and coaches refer to each other as and what others call someone in a formal setting. If you don't believe me, try telling the next female officer who pull you over a "lady cop" and see how she responds. It's also different when another woman refers to a woman as something than when a man does. Context matters.
What outrage and flying off the handle? Chick calmly pointed out that our women's team is not the "Lady Golden Eagles" but the Golden Eagles. No one attacked anyone, labeled anyone, or was outraged. Just pointed something out. It was all the responses to that which contained outrage and flying off the handle.
Instead of anger, try listening to Chick. She is one of what? Like three active female posters on this site? I think she has more insight on this topic than any of us bums do.
Liberal academic types never get it, they just want to tell everyone how smart they are and why we should be listening to them
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Liberal academic types never get it, they just want to tell everyone how smart they are and why we should be listening to them
Are you putting me in that group? That's hilarious.
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Oh Sand-Knit, you are so hard to ignore, mainly because other posters are always quoting your asinine comments in order to refute them.
Chick and I may not be in the group of which you accuse us (although I still can't figure out why some people think "liberal" is a perjorative term), but we are in a group you will never belong to, let's just call it the XX group.
I have no qualms with referring to women, individually or as a group, as "lady" or "ladies." Certainly better than some of the other options: girls, chicks or bitches, which women might use among close friends but never to refer to women they do not know personally.
My take on this issue is that women have fought for comparable opportunities to men in high school and college athletics for years (and let's not even talk about the pros). Unless we are going to call the men's team the "gentlemen Golden Eagles," calling the women "Lady Golden Eagles" could be construed as somehow lesser, and less important, than the "regular" Golden Eagles. So how about we refer to them as the school does: Marquette Men's basketball and Marquette Women's basketball.
And for those of you who still choose to respond to Sand-Knit's not-so-witty repartee, do some of us a favor and please don't quote him. Thanks so much :-*
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I get all the sides and thoughts here. But we call our men's team "guys" "dudes" "boys"... not everything has to always be so uptight and rigid.
I can see where chick is coming from with her initial comments. And I can see where mom is always coming from. Let's just say everyone has their opinions... and maybe move on and talk about how our women's team is going to hopefully be a top 5 seed in the tourney!?
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I’m completely exhausted by this thread and where it’s gone from where it was intended, which is too bad because I am excited for the women’s team this year. Thanks everyone for completely derailing this because of one comment. I hope you can all move on.
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To help get this back on track, MU69 found a great preview on the Big East. As expected, Marquette is the team to beat.
https://summitthoops.com/2017/10/27/big-east-conference-preview-marquette-the-team-to-beat/
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To help get this back on track, MU69 found a great preview on the Big East. As expected, Marquette is the team to beat.
https://summitthoops.com/2017/10/27/big-east-conference-preview-marquette-the-team-to-beat/
Good stuff.
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The women's team dropped their opener in about the roughest way possible. Made two FTs to take a 2 pt lead with 13 seconds left. Played tough defense, forced a tough shot that missed.....the Lobos grabbed the offensive board and put it in.....and got the and one....with a second left on the clock. MU loses by 1.
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The women's team dropped their opener in about the roughest way possible. Made two FTs to take a 2 pt lead with 13 seconds left. Played tough defense, forced a tough shot that missed.....the Lobos grabbed the offensive board and put it in.....and got the and one....with a second left on the clock. MU loses by 1.
So my question is, why was this game even this close to begin with?? Shouldn't this team be blowing out opponents like this, at home or on the road??
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Is wilborn hurt?
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So my question is, why was this game even this close to begin with?? Shouldn't this team be blowing out opponents like this, at home or on the road??
I watched the game. One particular player gave MU fits scoring something like 37. But this was clearly on us as the Lobos hadn't beaten a ranked team since something like 2010. Seemed to me that our girls had read too many press clipping about how great they are. Not a very good effort.
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Is wilborn hurt?
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I watched the game. One particular player gave MU fits scoring something like 37. But this was clearly on us as the Lobos hadn't beaten a ranked team since something like 2010. Seemed to me that our girls had read too many press clipping about how great they are. Not a very good effort.
Yikes. We'll get em next game!
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#20 ranked MU loses to #12 Tennessee in OT.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/112317aaa.html
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#20 rank MU loses to #12 Tennessee in OT.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/w-baskbl/recaps/112317aaa.html
Really disappointed that wasn't on TV somewhere. Just online pay per view. Followed the end of regulation on Twitter, came back to see they lost in overtime.
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how about those ladies this afternoon?
92-30 over Loyola. With a lead that at one time point reached 67. Fueled by a 28-1 edge in the second quarter.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/w-baskbl/auto_pdf/2017-18/box_score/stats_20171128aaa.pdf
Looks like they got the defense working. Now about scoring only 92...
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No mercy, i love it
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how about those ladies this afternoon?
92-30 over Loyola. With a lead that at one time point reached 67. Fueled by a 28-1 edge in the second quarter.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/w-baskbl/auto_pdf/2017-18/box_score/stats_20171128aaa.pdf
Looks like they got the defense working. Now about scoring only 92...
That's a UConn ladies beating anybody type of score.
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Just to back up the crap day, Marquette women lost 63-55 at Green Bay. Will fall out of the top-25 come next week.
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hosting Wisconsin tonight (Monday) 7:00pm at the AL.
for those in the Wisconsin area, being televised by Spectrum.
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hosting Wisconsin tonight (Monday) 7:00pm at the AL.
for those in the Wisconsin area, being televised by Spectrum.
And they destroyed the Badgers, 88-65. Natisha Heideman with 26 points. Looks like we kept the better one in that family.
Now it's the men's turn!
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Jekyll and Hyde team for Kieger this year.
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And they destroyed the Badgers, 88-65. Natisha Heideman with 26 points. Looks like we kept the better one in that family.
Now it's the men's turn!
The Gals are getting good student support. Hopefully they keep up the momentum.
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I watch the DePaul games every year but it all just seams pointless when you have UConn and UT combine for 17 of the past 26 titles. You can argue about our men’s team not having a shot at the title every year but at least there’s variation that can still give hope for one of those miracle runs in the tournament.
Note that this is not an indictment of women’s sports just this level of dominance
Umm Gee, kinda like UCLA men's basketball in the 1960s and 1970s.
Would you have gone to a Marquette men's game in that period?
Give Gino and UConn and the late Pat Summit at Tennessee their due. Great Coaches for whom great players want to play.
Maybe the fire Wojo crowd will back the hiring of Coach Kreiger for the men's team? What do you think?
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Umm Gee, kinda like UCLA men's basketball in the 1960s and 1970s.
Would you have gone to a Marquette men's game in that period?
Um, isn't that what I said immediately under Boxer's post?
I guess great minds think alike. ;)
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Jekyll and Hyde team for Kieger this year.
Have only lost to three Top 30 teams on the road. Have ranked Michigan and Norte Dame upcoming, also on the road. Tough schedule early. They lack height and big depth until McCoy is eligible next season, otherwise they will have to outshoot and outrun their opponents.
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Um, isn't that what I said immediately under Boxer's post?
I guess great minds think alike. ;)
It's the Father Ryan in us!
I missed your comment, so appropriate attribution was not given! My apologies for replicating your genius.
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It's the Father Ryan in us!
I missed your comment, so appropriate attribution was not given! My apologies for replicating your genius.
Yep, seeing things through purple-colored glasses!
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Umm Gee, kinda like UCLA men's basketball in the 1960s and 1970s.
Would you have gone to a Marquette men's game in that period?
Give Gino and UConn and the late Pat Summit at Tennessee their due. Great Coaches for whom great players want to play.
Maybe the fire Wojo crowd will back the hiring of Coach Kreiger for the men's team? What do you think?
Scroll to the bottom of page 1 for how this conversation will play out.
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Um, isn't that what I said immediately under Boxer's post?
I guess great minds think alike. ;)
There's a bit of a difference, though. The difference between the UConn Women and say, the number 15 women's team, is like the difference in Men's basketball between No. 1 Duke and the number 200 Men's team. Its not a competitive game. There are maybe 3-5 teams a year with even a remote chance of beating them.
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Jekyll and Hyde team for Kieger this year.
Fire Kieger!
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for those not attending the AL, the ladies tip off conference play hosting St John's tonight at 7:30 on FS2.
coming off an overtime loss at #2 ND.