Hayward

[spartan3186]

does anyone know why he wasnt starting today? Coming off a 18 pt performance and coming off the bench in favor of Cubillian? just a question

[tower912]

He started.  He just wasn't effective.

[77ncaachamps]

Does anyone think he might transfer?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Does anyone think he might transfer?

yep, along with Cube, Fitz, blackledge and Mcneal.   

[CWSKeith]

Does anyone think he might transfer?

You guys can't be serious with some of these questions, can you?  He's a freshman starting on a top 25 team in the country.  He didn't play a lot today because he picked up three first half fouls so Crean had to 'protect' him. 

Yikes...

[77ncaachamps]

Simple questions get ridiculous answers...well, from Ziggy, that is.

I didn't see anyone get animated over David's transfer rumors.

[Harrison]

He did start and 3 first half fouls may have had something to do with his limited time.  Maybe not?   

[bartmiller#1]

No.  I don't think Hayward will transfer.

And I think it's a stupid question.  Why would he? 

He's a starter on a BE team in his freshman year of college.

He's going to the NCAA tournament.  He plays with 3 very good guards who minimize any pressure he would feel as a highly-touted player.  He will play with at least some combination of these players for the next two years. 

Again, why would he transfer? 

I guess it's a fair question in the way that it would be fair to ask whether Wesley Matthews might transfer, or Ooze, or Burke, or anyone, but it's still a stupid question.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

No.  I don't think Hayward will transfer.

And I think it's a stupid question.  Why would he? 

He's a starter on a BE team in his freshman year of college.

He's going to the NCAA tournament.  He plays with 3 very good guards who minimize any pressure he would feel as a highly-touted player.  He will play with at least some combination of these players for the next two years. 

Again, why would he transfer? 

I guess it's a fair question in the way that it would be fair to ask whether Wesley Matthews might transfer, or Ooze, or Burke, or anyone, but it's still a stupid question.

I agree with your thoughts about his basketball life... I think it looks pretty good.

I also hate all of the transfer talk because I think it's just people making stuff up to talk about.

BUT, I will also say that often times and probably most of the time players don't transfer just because of what is happening in their "basketball life".

They spend more hours off of the court than on it... so everything from professors, food, weather, girlfriends, highschool friends, distance from home, family, etc. etc. affect a kids decision on where he attends school.

To speculate if Lazar (or any player) is transfering just based upon his on court behavior or playing time is short-sighted. Too many variables to consider to make an educated guess.

My guess is that he stays, but only because that is what he signed up for. I have no reason to suspect that he will not honor that.

[mu03eng]

'77, what is your basis for thinking that Hayward would transfer? 

For that matter when did someone say that Cube was going to transfer?  Why are you people getting my blood pressure up so early in the morning?  Why am I asking so many questions?  Where am I?   

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Isn't it natural to speculate given the fact that we've been losing nearly two players a year for the past several years?

Niv
Bradley
Mason
Blankson
Amo
Mortensen
Bell
Matthews
Christian

Regardless of what these players achieved after they left or why they left, they all still made the decision to leave. I think speculating on who might leave is legitimate.

It's also legitimate to speculate on who our assistant coaches might be next year.

 

[The Lens]

No.  I don't think Hayward will transfer.

And I think it's a stupid question.  Why would he? 

He's a starter on a BE team in his freshman year of college.
 

ODB was a 2 year starter, albeit in CUSA, for a NCAA team & Mason was a 1.5 year starter for a program coming off a Final Four. 

I think it's doubtful LH leaves, but certainly not out of the question. 

[Chili]

Regardless of what these players achieved after they left or why they left, they all still made the decision to leave.  

Mortenson, Bell and Matthews did not choose to leave. Espesially Mortenson - he was told by the NCAA he had to go, NOT Marquette, Tom Crean or Tom Crean acting as Marquette.

[bartmiller#1]

ODB didn't leave after his first year.

ODB had people in his ear telling him he was going to the league if he got more touches.

ODB didn't like his role on the team, and he made that known.

None of those things are known to be true for Hayward at this point. 

While I wouldn't be shocked if someone left the team-- particularly given the track record over the last several years-- I think it's unfounded to focus that attention on a particular player who hasn't given any outward indication of a desire to transfer. 

What in the world points to Hayward leaving? 

This is why threads like this are damaging-- not because we shouldn't talk about the issue-- I think that's fine, but because now people are talking about Hayward, specifically, as a possible transfer.  And there's nothing in the world to support that. 

[rocky_warrior]

This is why threads like this are damaging-- not because we shouldn't talk about the issue-- I think that's fine, but because now people are talking about Hayward, specifically, as a possible transfer.  And there's nothing in the world to support that. 

Wait a second.  I have to defend the thread a bit   The thread started with the only topic asking why Hayward didn't start - and that quickly corrected because he did start.

Next, there was a simple question "Does anyone think he might transfer?" - to which basically everybody has said "no" with the condition that you can't always rule out transfers though.  Not a single person has actually said that Hayward would transfer, or is likely to.  But the some responding have acted as if that was said.

Basically, if you answer "no" and let the thread die, then it's all over. 

Message boards are a funny thing.  Like the thread that started with "crean must go" - sure the top message was loony, but it was refreshing to see how many people *also* though the message was loony.  Heck, even a few people who I thought hated crean and were overly negative chimed in to say that it was crazy.

Sometimes I think I should add more "crazy" positive top level threads - because some people seem to focus on the title of the thread, rather than the content.

Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now 

[spiral97]

This is why threads like this are damaging-- not because we shouldn't talk about the issue-- I think that's fine, but because now people are talking about Hayward, specifically, as a possible transfer.  And there's nothing in the world to support that. 

Wait a second.  I have to defend the thread a bit   The thread started with the only topic asking why Hayward didn't start - and that quickly corrected because he did start.

Next, there was a simple question "Does anyone think he might transfer?" - to which basically everybody has said "no" with the condition that you can't always rule out transfers though.  Not a single person has actually said that Hayward would transfer, or is likely to.  But the some responding have acted as if that was said.

Basically, if you answer "no" and let the thread die, then it's all over. 

Message boards are a funny thing.  Like the thread that started with "crean must go" - sure the top message was loony, but it was refreshing to see how many people *also* though the message was loony.  Heck, even a few people who I thought hated crean and were overly negative chimed in to say that it was crazy.

Sometimes I think I should add more "crazy" positive top level threads - because some people seem to focus on the title of the thread, rather than the content.

Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now 

It's all over, the message board is acting funny, and you hate Crean now???

[rocky_warrior]

It's all over, the message board is acting funny, and you hate Crean now???

No no, you misread.  Crean is acting funny and I hate the message board 

[spiral97]

It's all over, the message board is acting funny, and you hate Crean now???

No no, you misread.  Crean is acting funny and I hate the message board 

But it's still all over.. thank god.