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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: rocket surgeon on April 19, 2015, 07:53:05 AM
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i have always wondered about this fashion phenomenon-how it evolved, when is it appropriate, age limits, and the different messages it sends??
i'm thinking it evolved mainly from baseball catchers because when they had to wear their masks, the bill of the cap forward got in the way. then, kids/people started doing it as a fashion statement
o.k., today, you see more people, it seems, wearing them backwards than forward. some companies even started putting logos on the back(or front depending on your perspective)
as i age(gracefully, i hope) i notice more and more people getting up there in age still doing this and it looks, well, juvenile. i will admit i will wear mine backwards at time, but only when riding my teryx, boat, or motorcycle(sans helmit) to prevent it from blowing off. as soon as i disengage said vehicle, it goes back to the regular(bill forward) position.
now, the different messages it sends-the older you are, from my perspective, the dumber one looks. then you have different angles at which it is positioned which can translate into different affiliations. loosely fitted, cocked one way or the other, etc.
next, there are different bill shapes and sizes and colors, all worn in different ways-fashion statements, gang affiliations-now this is where one could get into trouble. many of don't know what is what and where. different angle, broad brim, color, and where you happen to be wandering.
sounds like wearing a simple baseball cap can be more complicated than it seems ::) any help here on the do's and don't of this ubiquitous fashion?
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Very simple. Wear it how you want and don't judge those who wear it differently.
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IMO, Ken Griffy Jr. was the one who really started the fashion movement. I still wear mine backwards often - probably about 35-40% of time - and I am in my mid 30s. But I also get to work in an industry where I can wear shorts and a tshirt to work whenever I want. I say do whatever you want because who really gives two sh*ts what anyone else thinks. I think that's the best part of getting older, you stop looking for approval from others on menial crap.
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You can only turn your hat backwards on the golf course if you're smoking a cigar and have a scotch in your hand.
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A tip for you single guys who might actually give two sh*ts what people think:
Whenever this conversation comes up with my single women acquaintances (from my twenty-three-year-old daughter on up), the most common opinion is that wearing a baseball cap backwards is kind of douchey.
And if you wear a baseball cap indoors (no matter which direction), the assumption is that you are trying to hide the fact that you are going bald.
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Ken Griffy Jr.
Junior!
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Very simple. Wear it how you want and don't judge those who wear it differently.
+10000
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I kind of like George Carlin's take:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIk4RkjEOAc
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ZFB says he refuses to wear a hat, even if he just met the guy
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A tip for you single guys who might actually give two sh*ts what people think:
Whenever this conversation comes up with my single women acquaintances (from my twenty-three-year-old daughter on up), the most common opinion is that wearing a baseball cap backwards is kind of douchey.
And if you wear a baseball cap indoors (no matter which direction), the assumption is that you are trying to hide the fact that you are going bald.
I am bald and I'm not trying to hide anything. And I never wear a baseball cap indoors. I also think adults who wear baseball caps backward look kind of douchey, but I also think nobody over the age of 30 should use "LOL," so what the hell do I know?
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I am bald and I'm not trying to hide anything. And I never wear a baseball cap indoors. I also think adults who wear baseball caps backward look kind of douchey, but I also think nobody over the age of 30 should use "LOL," so what the hell do I know?
IDK
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IDK
LMAO!
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Very simple. Wear it how you want and don't judge those who wear it differently.
wow! if that isn't the sanctimonious response of the year. just thought i'd throw something light hearted out there. personally, after the age of about 14 or so, i think it starts looking as some here have said-douchy. i did like the cigar and scotch on the golf course-seen it many a time. don't tell me father sultan, that you don't pause every now and then when you see something dorky and just go-whatever...me too. it doesn't mean i'm gonna go up to them and go all britt mchenry on them. just a sunday change of pace-sorry yer having a bad day
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wow! if that isn't the sanctimonious response of the year. just thought i'd throw something light hearted out there. personally, after the age of about 14 or so, i think it starts looking as some here have said-douchy. i did like the cigar and scotch on the golf course-seen it many a time. don't tell me father sultan, that you don't pause every now and then when you see something dorky and just go-whatever...me too. it doesn't mean i'm gonna go up to them and go all britt mchenry on them. just a sunday change of pace-sorry yer having a bad day
You asked. I answered.
And I am having a fine day.
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I wear my hat backwards when my sunglasses don't fit under the brim because I wear my hats low....don't want to look like I have a fivehead ;D. I also wear it backwards if I'm casually skiing and need goggles but don't want to wear a helmet.
I think "my generation" is much more likely to wear hats all the time....we grew up wearing hats. I also wear a hat to a sporting event or golfing. Depending what the evening out plans are, if casual, I might wear a hat to the bar. And no I'm not balding, I have a very full and luscious head of hair :D
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Wearing hats backwards is as acceptable as wearing a basketball jersey or ketchup on a hot dog. it needs to stop after you hit 12 years old*.
*doesn't apply to black dudes. except for the ketchup thing. no man of any race, color or creed should put ketchup on a hot dog.
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IDepending what the evening out plans are, if casual, I might wear a hat to the bar. And no I'm not balding, I have a very full and luscious head of hair :D
Hell, Navy, you should know better than that! Wear your cover into a Fighter O'Club and it will cost you...
Everyone slams down their beer and orders a double single malt whenever some fool commits that egregious sin
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Anybody beyond junior high school who wears a hat backwards is a loser. Period.
In addition, failing to judge people who wear baseball hats backwards is just as bad as actually wearing them that way.
Lastly, I try to remove my caps indoors, but sometimes fail to do so. Just to contradict Warriorchick, I can boast of a luxuriant head of hair (among other attributes).
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I wear my baseball hat any way I want, depending on my mood and activity. And so should you. However, if you really need to dig deeper.... why are you wearing the hat? Are you protecting your scalp from the sun's rays since your thinning hair can no longer do it? If so, own it. And if you are truly worried about skin cancer, consider one of those big-brimmed, lightweight numbers. Own that, too. Are you wearing it to keep the sun out of your eyes? Don't turn it around. Are you trying to advertise your fandom? Face it forward. If you are truly worried about whether or not it looks cool/hip/with it/ironic, then just stop. Get a fedora. Or an Irish ploughman's hat. But whatever you choose, be honest with yourself about the reasons and then own it.
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I wear a hat backwards when I've had a busy day and couldn't shower before going out or my hair has gotten blown all around from the wind or when I wear my glasses which don't go well under a hat face forward.
I personally think it looks kinda douchy especially on middleaged men but who am I to judge I also wear one of those traditional irish hats occasionally.
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Any rules for dealing with "hathead" when you take the cap off?
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Run your fingers through your hair a few times.
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Wearing hats backwards is as acceptable as wearing a basketball jersey or ketchup on a hot dog. it needs to stop after you hit 12 years old*.
*doesn't apply to black dudes. except for the ketchup thing. no man of any race, color or creed should put ketchup on a hot dog.
What's wrong with ketchup on a hot dog? If I'm truly going to enjoy some ground up entrails and filler packed into some sort of synthetic casing, you better be damn sure I want some ketchup on that.
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Hell, Navy, you should know better than that! Wear your cover into a Fighter O'Club and it will cost you...
Everyone slams down their beer and orders a double single malt whenever some fool commits that egregious sin
Oh I know, it's my one rebellion. Wearing a cover in doors and forgetting your challenge coin are two sins I learned early to avoid
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Once you hit age 30 or become a father, hats should face forward, have curved brims and not be worn out socially unless you have come immediately from an outdoor sporting event (i.e. playing golf or attending a ballgame). If you're 30+ and/or a father, a backwards hat or a flat-brimmed hat tells the world that you're trying to remain cool even though you're not. Wearing a hat to a social engagement might as well come with a shirt that reads "I'M BALDING." Visors are never acceptable unless you're a female golfer.
It's really that simple.
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Once you hit age 30 or become a father, hats should face forward, have curved brims and not be worn out socially unless you have come immediately from an outdoor sporting event (i.e. playing golf or attending a ballgame). If you're 30+ and/or a father, a backwards hat or a flat-brimmed hat tells the world that you're trying to remain cool even though you're not. Wearing a hat to a social engagement might as well come with a shirt that reads "I'M BALDING." Visors are never acceptable unless you're a female golfer.
It's really that simple.
I agree with this, but I'll occasionally flip my brim around backwards, on a temporary basis, if I need to get some sun on my forehead and face. Living in Wisconsin, our opportunities for sun are limited.
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Once you hit age 30 or become a father, hats should face forward, have curved brims and not be worn out socially unless you have come immediately from an outdoor sporting event (i.e. playing golf or attending a ballgame). If you're 30+ and/or a father, a backwards hat or a flat-brimmed hat tells the world that you're trying to remain cool even though you're not. Wearing a hat to a social engagement might as well come with a shirt that reads "I'M BALDING." Visors are never acceptable unless you're a female golfer.
It's really that simple.
Eh, you have your plan I have mine. I will say, the only reason my hat ends up backwards is because my brims are very curved and my AO Aviators don't fit under the brim. As soon as the sunglasses are off, the hat swings around.
At the end of the day, whatever a person's style, that's their style probably shouldn't judge a book by the cover. I dress pretty down unless I'm in a professional setting or some place that requires "nice attire" cause it's what I like, don't care what other people think(much to my wife's chagrin).
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Baseball caps for me are usually for days where I don't work and I don't have time for a shower. E.g. Going to a kids game and leaving at 7:00 AM or whatever on a Saturday and I wake up late. Never wear a cap backwards, in my opinion.
But once a cap goes on, it is meant to stay on, in-door or out. I really dislike taking a cap off after it has been on for a while.
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Is there an age limit for wearing Levi's?
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Wearing hats backwards is as acceptable as wearing a basketball jersey or ketchup on a hot dog. it needs to stop after you hit 12 years old*.
*doesn't apply to black dudes. except for the ketchup thing. no man of any race, color or creed should put ketchup on a hot dog.
What about cheese on my dog?
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Baseball caps for me are usually for days where I don't work and I don't have time for a shower. E.g. Going to a kids game and leaving at 7:00 AM or whatever on a Saturday and I wake up late. Never wear a cap backwards, in my opinion.
But once a cap goes on, it is meant to stay on, in-door or out. I really dislike taking a cap off after it has been on for a while.
Pretty much my stance
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If it can't rain on your head (i.e. you are indoors), take it off.
If it's a Yankees hat, burn it.
If the sun's in your eyes, wear it forward (after all that is what it was created for).
Otherwise, wear it however you like.
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What about cheese on my dog?
Go to the Wiener Circle on Clark in Chicago. You'll find it's perfectly acceptable for cheese. You should try their chocolate shake while you're there. It'll really stay with you.
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I have a big green foam Marvin the Martian helmet which I got from Six Flags when I was little. Do I have to take that off indoors?
(If it has any impact on the decision, I am not balding.)
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I have a big green foam Marvin the Martian helmet which I got from Six Flags when I was little. Do I have to take that off indoors?
(If it has any impact on the decision, I am not balding.)
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Why would you ever take that off?
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Why would you ever take that off?
I rarely do, Chuckler.
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Well, count me among the insanely jealous.
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What's wrong with ketchup on a hot dog? If I'm truly going to enjoy some ground up entrails and filler packed into some sort of synthetic casing, you better be damn sure I want some ketchup on that.
real men only put ketchup/catsup on the ole tube steak ONLY if ya add HOT sauce to it-now that's a HOT dog-heyna? ;D
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Go to the Wiener Circle on Clark in Chicago. You'll find it's perfectly acceptable for cheese. You should try their chocolate shake while you're there. It'll really stay with you.
Oh ya. Their milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard
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Oh ya. Their milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard
Awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/e/JvreaKZ4_t0
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What about cheese on my dog?
Well, only if there is also chili on that dog, is my stance! ;)
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ok, if i had a daughter, say-18-21 years old and she comes home with a dude wearing a baseball cap backwards. i'm showing him my knife collection and then taking him out hunting or trap and skeet or something. disclaimer-it's ok to wear it backward while shooting-THAT"S IT !!! wait, or if you are the catcher or while riding open air(boat or car or cycle or atv'ing) without helmits-then it's cool ;)
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What if I have a sunburn on the back of my neck and the sun is behind me? Is it okay then? If I'm eating a brat with bbq sauce on it, still ok?
What if I'm wearing a scarf in side the BC? Can the hat be backwords? Or if I'm a Hollywood director on set?
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What if I have a sunburn on the back of my neck and the sun is behind me? Is it okay then? If I'm eating a brat with bbq sauce on it, still ok?
What if I'm wearing a scarf in side the BC? Can the hat be backwords? Or if I'm a Hollywood director on set?
No to all.
Plus, you sound like a beret kinda guy. :D
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ok, if i had a daughter, say-18-21 years old and she comes home with a dude wearing a baseball cap backwards. i'm showing him my knife collection and then taking him out hunting or trap and skeet or something.
You're taking a dude out to skeet?
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I have a 20 year old daughter. If she brought home a guy wearing his hat backward....meh. I trust her and her judgment.
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Once you hit age 30 or become a father, hats should face forward, have curved brims and not be worn out socially unless you have come immediately from an outdoor sporting event (i.e. playing golf or attending a ballgame). If you're 30+ and/or a father, a backwards hat or a flat-brimmed hat tells the world that you're trying to remain cool even though you're not. Wearing a hat to a social engagement might as well come with a shirt that reads "I'M BALDING." Visors are never acceptable unless you're a female golfer.
It's really that simple.
This. And please don't wear them in my house. Legs Jr actually tried wearing one at the dinner table a few months back. God, I've become an angry old man.
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This. And please don't wear them in my house. Legs Jr actually tried wearing one at the dinner table a few months back. God, I've become an angry old man.
+1
It's that liberal Holy Cross education.
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This. And please don't wear them in my house. Legs Jr actually tried wearing one at the dinner table a few months back. God, I've become an angry old man.
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It's that liberal Holy Cross education.
Way back when, I went through this when I first met my wife --- No hats on at the dinner table. Now I rarely wear hats period.
My pre-Marquette education involved those Brothers of Holy Cross. I even had the pleasure of seeing where the order was founded in France.
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+1
It's that liberal Holy Cross education.
I probably would have let it slide it it was an MU hat...
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No to all.
Plus, you sound like a beret kinda guy. :D
Maybe I'll be the guy in the beret with the scarf at the BC.... well, maybe not, I can't pull that off without looking like a complete dork. I can't even pull of the scarf, sadly.
If one puts on a hat in the morning because there is no time for a shower, the hat should not come off.. period. To ask someone to take a hat off at the table or inside is rude under those circumstances (although if you're at someone else's house, I guess one follows their rules so that maybe an exception). Unless it's a UW hat, then all bets are off.
I think not wearing a hat inside or at the table harkens back to another age. Most of our father's probably had to deal with a no shorts rule at dinner or family gatherings. No "tennis shoes" in the same circumstances. And before that one had to wear a suit and tie to almost any public event and even family meals (gotta love those old photos of guys in their suits and ties, in the sun at baseball games). Anyway, the trend is towards the casual, at least unless ISIS takes over. Then there will be all sorts of rules we can debate.
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Haha, I brought this topic up with a younger (40) female friend, who told me that backwards caps are ok under any circumstances if the wearer feels like wearing it that way, and it's also now acceptable to wear caps indoors most places (especially in bars). Those old manners rules we learned are now out the window.
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Haha, I brought this topic up with a younger (40) female friend, who told me that backwards caps are ok under any circumstances if the wearer feels like wearing it that way, and it's also now acceptable to wear caps indoors most places (especially in bars). Those old manners rules we learned are now out the window.
Thats pretty fair. I'm 29, have plenty of hair, but also have a head that just doesn't do well with hats in the traditional forward facing way, depending on how the front panel is structured. I also have morning hair that can rarely be tamed, as a result, I wear hats backwards a decent amount and have never thought it to be douchey or juvenile. It just is what it is. I'm not going to wear it to a formal dinner or if I was meeting someone important, but at a bar during the day, out and about on a weekend during the day, or running errands, I don't know what's wrong with it.
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I was going out to do some yardwork this weekend and I asked my wife (age 32) if should wear my hat backwards just to see what she'd say. Her response: "Do you want to look 40?" (I'm 34)
Her contention is that backwards hats make guys age 30+ look old. She reminded me of our experience at a recent wedding. The bride is an attractive, youthful-looking 36-year-old. However, once she put on that wedding dress, she flat-out looked old. Typically, we picture brides as fresh-faced 20-somethings in their giant princess dresses. What we don't picture are giant princess dresses being worn by women with crow's feet. Don't get me wrong, she looked great and I'm not "age shaming" (or whatever it's probably called) but, in that one particular circumstance, our friend looked old.
As my wife contends, the same goes for guys in backwards hats. Typically, we picture backwards hat guys as young college-aged 20-somethings. What we don't picture is a backwards hat guy being in his mid-30s with a diaper bag over his shoulder. When that's the case, it makes the guy look much older than he is because he's sporting a "young person look."
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I was going out to do some yardwork this weekend and I asked my wife (age 32) if should wear my hat backwards just to see what she'd say. Her response: "Do you want to look 40?" (I'm 34)
Her contention is that backwards hats make guys age 30+ look old. She reminded me of our experience at a recent wedding. The bride is an attractive, youthful-looking 36-year-old. However, once she put on that wedding dress, she flat-out looked old. Typically, we picture brides as fresh-faced 20-somethings in their giant princess dresses. What we don't picture are giant princess dresses being worn by women with crow's feet. Don't get me wrong, she looked great and I'm not "age shaming" (or whatever it's probably called) but, in that one particular circumstance, our friend looked old.
As my wife contends, the same goes for guys in backwards hats. Typically, we picture backwards hat guys as young college-aged 20-somethings. What we don't picture is a backwards hat guy being in his mid-30s with a diaper bag over his shoulder. When that's the case, it makes the guy look much older than he is because he's sporting a "young person look."
How bout a photo of the bride, a,ina?
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I was going out to do some yardwork this weekend and I asked my wife (age 32) if should wear my hat backwards just to see what she'd say. Her response: "Do you want to look 40?" (I'm 34)
Her contention is that backwards hats make guys age 30+ look old. She reminded me of our experience at a recent wedding. The bride is an attractive, youthful-looking 36-year-old. However, once she put on that wedding dress, she flat-out looked old. Typically, we picture brides as fresh-faced 20-somethings in their giant princess dresses. What we don't picture are giant princess dresses being worn by women with crow's feet. Don't get me wrong, she looked great and I'm not "age shaming" (or whatever it's probably called) but, in that one particular circumstance, our friend looked old.
As my wife contends, the same goes for guys in backwards hats. Typically, we picture backwards hat guys as young college-aged 20-somethings. What we don't picture is a backwards hat guy being in his mid-30s with a diaper bag over his shoulder. When that's the case, it makes the guy look much older than he is because he's sporting a "young person look."
I saw this personified at dinner last night. A couple walks in with a baby, Dad sporting a backwards cap. The very next thing I noticed were the patches of grey cropping up in his beard. I probably would have overlooked it if not for the hat. But in my mind, the backwards hat made him 5-10 years older because it looked out of place.
To offer my opinion, wear your hat however you damn well please. (I'm less concerned about my "deforestation" problem than the lumpy head its gradually revealing.) But at the same time, don't have the expectation that others aren't passing judgement.
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I saw this personified at dinner last night. A couple walks in with a baby, Dad sporting a backwards cap. The very next thing I noticed were the patches of grey cropping up in his beard. I probably would have overlooked it if not for the hat. But in my mind, the backwards hat made him 5-10 years older because it looked out of place.
Great point. There are a lot of young-people fashion choices, such as earrings on a guy (Morgan Freeman being a notable exception) or long hair on a woman that can make an older person look even older.
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I was going out to do some yardwork this weekend and I asked my wife (age 32) if should wear my hat backwards just to see what she'd say. Her response: "Do you want to look 40?" (I'm 34)
Her contention is that backwards hats make guys age 30+ look old. She reminded me of our experience at a recent wedding. The bride is an attractive, youthful-looking 36-year-old. However, once she put on that wedding dress, she flat-out looked old. Typically, we picture brides as fresh-faced 20-somethings in their giant princess dresses. What we don't picture are giant princess dresses being worn by women with crow's feet. Don't get me wrong, she looked great and I'm not "age shaming" (or whatever it's probably called) but, in that one particular circumstance, our friend looked old.
As my wife contends, the same goes for guys in backwards hats. Typically, we picture backwards hat guys as young college-aged 20-somethings. What we don't picture is a backwards hat guy being in his mid-30s with a diaper bag over his shoulder. When that's the case, it makes the guy look much older than he is because he's sporting a "young person look."
What about a bride in a baseball cap?
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now that can be hot! either with a little pony tail thru the strap or backwards so it doesn't get in the way when they're takin care of biness ;D
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now that can be hot! either with a little pony tail thru the strap or backwards so it doesn't get in the way when they're takin care of biness ;D
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now that can be hot! either with a little pony tail thru the strap or backwards so it doesn't get in the way when they're takin care of biness ;D
https://youtu.be/Fs4RNCvdC4s (https://youtu.be/Fs4RNCvdC4s)
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awwww, come on! someone left that one wide open. i had to bring it on home, but ya'll have to admit, that was pretty funny right there-no disrespect though. ::) i've seen some pretty risque pics here too(no complaints of course)
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Okay, I saw something today that I think nearly everyone would agree is inappropriate.
I was in downtown Chicago today and saw a bunch of twenty-somethings that were obviously headed to a Kentucky Derby party. All the women were wearing spring dresses and fancy hats. The men were wearing suits/sportcoats and either had straw boaters or Panama hats, except for one dude that was wearing a backwards baseball cap.
That guy is definitely not getting laid tonight.
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Okay, I saw something today that I think nearly everyone would agree is inappropriate.
I was in downtown Chicago today and saw a bunch of twenty-somethings that were obviously headed to a Kentucky Derby party. All the women were wearing spring dresses and fancy hats. The men were wearing suits/sportcoats and either had straw boaters or Panama hats, except for one dude that was wearing a backwards baseball cap.
That guy is definitely not getting laid tonight.
now that's what i'm talking about-and it comes from a credible source-women don't dig that look
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Disagree, if the dude has a lot of dough or a huge schmeckle, he's catchin' ass anyway, ai na?
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Disagree, if the dude has a lot of dough or a huge schmeckle, he's catchin' ass anyway, ai na?
well yeah, those who come well endowed in both the money and the johnson departments predictably so blows the cap backwards theory out of the water. those two attributes will allow one to overlook some negative aspects of anothers personalities. those are what we call variables in the scientific analysis, or "wild cards"
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Okay, I saw something today that I think nearly everyone would agree is inappropriate.
I was in downtown Chicago today and saw a bunch of twenty-somethings that were obviously headed to a Kentucky Derby party. All the women were wearing spring dresses and fancy hats. The men were wearing suits/sportcoats and either had straw boaters or Panama hats, except for one dude that was wearing a backwards baseball cap.
That guy is definitely not getting laid tonight.
Whats funny is that I would think most of them looked like asshats, not just the dude with "offensive" headwear. People dressing up like Southern debutantes to watch the Derby at a bar or an OTB in Chicago is one of my least favorite spring traditions.
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Are you protecting your scalp from the sun's rays since your thinning hair can no longer do it? If so, own it.
Yes. And, I do. No shame at all.
The other reason I wear them is if I don't have time for a shower on a weekend morning. Always forward facing, though (unless on a boat, jet ski, etc).