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Author Topic: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports  (Read 4241 times)


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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2023, 10:02:43 AM »
Out of curiosity does this have any impact on title 9? Or were both these programs men & women?

Both men and women Programs cut.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM »
48 scholarships per year, about half of Wojo's buyout per annum. 

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2023, 10:16:04 AM »
48 scholarships per year, about half of Wojo's buyout per annum.

Not a factor if the rumor about an alum footing the bill for Wojo is true.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2023, 10:20:13 AM »
I would guess it’s getting more and more expensive to fund non-revenue sports and the ROI isn’t there to justify the scholarships.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2023, 10:25:01 AM »
Not a factor if the rumor about an alum footing the bill for Wojo is true.

Not directly a factor. But the same alum could have foot the bill to keep those as varsity sports.

Not saying he should have done so, just saying there's nuance.

For example, it's great that we have the collective for NIL, but some of the same people who donate to that will do so with money that otherwise might have gone to the overall athletic budget or to MU's general fund. That's not "bad." Or even good. It just is.
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2023, 10:28:40 AM »
48 scholarships per year, about half of Wojo's buyout per annum.

Where will we park Wally now?

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2023, 10:37:46 AM »
So 48 future students will now go elsewhere.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2023, 10:38:00 AM »
Not a factor if the rumor about an alum footing the bill for Wojo is true.

I didn't say it was. I just added that perspective. 

Mine: Wojo would still be our coach if Mr. X didn't step up.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2023, 10:40:07 AM »
Billy Packer wuz write, aina?
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2023, 10:46:20 AM »
So 48 future students will now go elsewhere.

Marquette has alternative scholarship sources.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2023, 11:30:46 AM »
Marquette has alternative scholarship sources.

So you are saying a student who can get a scholarship playing tennis or track and field at another school will take an alternative scholarship to attend Marquette that does not take their sport seriously? I don't think so.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2023, 12:07:56 PM »
Can't fund tennis, but people want to bring back football.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2023, 12:25:01 PM »
Can't fund tennis, but people want to bring back football.

Once the Warrior name is restored, the massive donation stream will return, funding football will be a no-brainer.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2023, 12:33:37 PM »
Both men and women Programs cut.

No programs were cut. Fully funding scholarships is not a requirement of Title IX.
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2023, 12:44:10 PM »
So 48 future students will now go elsewhere.

And be replaced for 48 other future students.
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2023, 12:47:14 PM »
And be replaced for 48 other future students.

At least they won’t get shot dead
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2023, 12:52:14 PM »
So 48 future students will now go elsewhere.


No they won't. Many of these students were only receiving partial scholarships, if they were receiving any at all.
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2023, 01:53:54 PM »
No programs were cut. Fully funding scholarships is not a requirement of Title IX.

Really? Is that not considered part of the investment that is supposed to equal out between men's and women's programs?
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2023, 02:25:44 PM »
Really? Is that not considered part of the investment that is supposed to equal out between men's and women's programs?

This impacts both men’s and women’s programs I believe. Doesn’t Marquette already have more women’s scholarships due to volleyball?

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2023, 02:43:20 PM »
I can't help but wonder if any of this is related to losing Joe True.  The timing is about right.
Have some patience, FFS.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2023, 04:16:09 PM »
And be replaced for 48 other future students.

Who will have to pay their own way, since the money is not there.

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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2023, 04:16:26 PM »
Really? Is that not considered part of the investment that is supposed to equal out between men's and women's programs?

I phrased it wrong.  Scholarships count, but in this case there isn't a problem.
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Re: MU tennis, track & field to become non-scholarship sports
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2023, 04:17:16 PM »
Who will have to pay their own way, since the money is not there.

As pointed out earlier, Marquette has other scholarships besides tennis and track and field partial scholarships. The only difference is that instead of this group of students getting part of their tuition paid for because they are good at tennis or track and field, they will have a different group of students getting part of their tuition paid for because of academics and service.

This move will negatively impact the quality of MU tennis and track and field programs. It will not negatively impact greater enrollment.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2023, 04:22:48 PM by TAMU, Knower of Ball »
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