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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Aircraftcarrier on April 16, 2019, 09:40:53 AM
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Do people believe that Sam really wanted to transfer?Has one year left.Going to sit a year and play one.Makes no sense to me.Is he leaving because of Joey?If that is the case it is a sad situation.
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He goes from being an all-time MU guy to being a guy that played one year at another school.
Disappointing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzxssCYwC2Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzxssCYwC2Q)
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You summed it up perfectly TallTitan.
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According to many Scoopers who say they have inside information, it was Sam who really wanted to transfer and Joey who is following him.
As I mentioned in a post yesterday, it's pretty unusual but it's not unprecedented. Robert Jackson did just this last decade, leaving Mississippi State after 3 years, sitting out a year, and then helping Marquette get to the 2003 Final Four.
More recently, Marial Shayok left Virginia after 3 years, sat out a season and played just this past season with Iowa State.
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Wonder if Wojo would hold Joey's hand again during ankle surgery if needed today? Wonder if Joey would even want him to? It's business, aina?
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The whole thing doesn’t make sense. Sam sits one year to play one year. Joey gives up a year of eligibility to sit one year and play two. It’s a bad look for everyone involved.
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Robert Jackson did just this last decade, leaving Mississippi State after 3 years, sitting out a year, and then helping Marquette get to the 2003 Final Four.
We don't get to the Final Four without Robert Jackson. But does anyone mention him with the all-time MU greats?
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We don't get to the Final Four without Robert Jackson. But does anyone mention him with the all-time MU greats?
And maybe if Tony Bennett doesn't lose Shayok, he avoids the most historic upset in NCAA history and wins a title last year. Bad, Tony Bennett!! Bad, bad, bad!
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Pride grows back. Regret never goes away.
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The whole thing doesn’t make sense. Sam sits one year to play one year. Joey gives up a year of eligibility to sit one year and play two. It’s a bad look for everyone involved.
I think that’s the biggest indictment of Wojo. How bad does it have to be that causes them to make a decision like that?
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I think that’s the biggest indictment of Wojo. How bad does it have to be that causes them to make a decision like that?
On the flip side: how irrational was he being to make a decision like that? The truth is always in the middle.
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I think that’s the biggest indictment of Wojo. How bad does it have to be that causes them to make a decision like that?
How bad do the Hausers’ expectations have to be to make a decision like that?
The sword cuts both ways.
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Has anyone else transferred out of Marquette after scoring more than 1,000 points for the school?
Sam Hauser has scored 1,272 points for Marquette.
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When Joey was being recruited the scuttlebutt was that the Hauser's did not want to play with Herro.If true maybe the Hauser's are the problem.
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When Joey was being recruited the scuttlebutt was that the Hauser's did not want to play with Herro.If true maybe the Hauser's are the problem.
Kinda feels like that, doesn't it? Herro might take a little shine off of them by playing well?
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I think that’s the biggest indictment of Wojo. How bad does it have to be that causes them to make a decision like that?
Certainly places the spotlight on Wojo. I wonder how the Brothers communicated their decision to Wojo?
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Kinda feels like that, doesn't it? Herro might take a little shine off of them by playing well?
Sam must really not like playing with Markus or the coach, or just likes being in college. This makes no sense to transfer as a junior unless your a grad transfer.
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Certainly places the spotlight on Wojo. I wonder how the Brothers communicated their decision to Wojo?
any plants thrown?
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Sew, now Bennett sucks ass like Shaka, hey?
Nads, back in yo sports writin' daze were ewe ever critical of athletes or coaches? Or, just middle of the road? Just axin', hey?
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any plants thrown?
Throwback reference! Excellent.
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We don't get to the Final Four without Robert Jackson. But does anyone mention him with the all-time MU greats?
Maybe Sam don’t give no chit about being an MU all-time great. The dude wants to play at the next level and doesn’t think watching Markus chuck 25 shots a game again will help him get there. He only has one year of eligibility left and wants to maximize the chance to show his considerable talents. Can’t say I blame him, hey?
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Couple things --
Sam and Markus were good teammates, but they weren't friends.
Sam's timing was terrible...no time to get in early on transfers and late recruits
It's likely a coach from another program had the ear of the Hauser family. I won't say who, but it should be obvious.
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When Joey was being recruited the scuttlebutt was that the Hauser's did not want to play with Herro.If true maybe the Hauser's are the problem.
Who knows. I do hope Wojo replaces them with quicker players. Imo, Joey is just to slow and athletic teams lit him up.
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Couple things --
Sam and Markus were good teammates, but they weren't friends.
Sam's timing was terrible...no time to get in early on transfers and late recruits
It's likely a coach from another program had the ear of the Hauser family. I won't say who, but it should be obvious.
Yeah. I think this is what irks me a bit more. That it kinda screws the program by doing it that way. But hey, the Hauser's are focused on #1, and no one else.
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Maybe Sam don’t give no chit about being an MU all-time great. The dude wants to play at the next level and doesn’t think watching Markus chuck 25 shots a game again will help him get there. He only has one year of eligibility left and wants to maximize the chance to show his considerable talents. Can’t say I blame him, hey?
If Sam really thinks there is a NBA future, that future is brightest now. Not when he'll enter the league as a soon to be 24 year old.
NBA Scouts are plenty smart, they can do their assessment of you without seeing you do it in actual games. They do it all the time with grainy European footage.
Sam's best chance at playing in the NBA would be to declare now.
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Pride grows back. Regret never goes away.
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any plants thrown?
Surprising, the first reaction past quickly, and thankfully I have all my Wisdom teeth so I tried to decide how massive this is. So I wrote down what I thought our record would be at seasons end. I will not take a peek until seasons ends. Seem to help me.
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If Sam really thinks there is a NBA future, that future is brightest now. Not when he'll enter the league as a soon to be 24 year old.
NBA Scouts are plenty smart, they can do their assessment of you without seeing you do it in actual games. They do it all the time with grainy European footage.
Sam's best chance at playing in the NBA would be to declare now.
And there's the rub. If Sam (or Joey) declare now, they cannot return to school. Players had to request an eval from the NBA underclassmen advisory committee by 11:59 pm on April 11. So if Markus' decision played into their decision, Markus' announcement being delayed until April 12 meant the Hausers could no longer declare with the hope of returning.
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Sam still should have declared before the deadline.
To the best of my knowledge he could declare and still enter his name in the transfer portal (Not entirely sure). That would have given him the most options.
Nobody wants a 24 year old second rounder.
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Maybe Sam don’t give no chit about being an MU all-time great. The dude wants to play at the next level and doesn’t think watching Markus chuck 25 shots a game again will help him get there. He only has one year of eligibility left and wants to maximize the chance to show his considerable talents. Can’t say I blame him, hey?
And he’s gonna get that shot at borderline blue bloods??
Sure Bennett and Izzo might be great coaches. And there might not be a 25 ppg scorer on their rosters
But he isn’t gonna be the guy at programs like that either.
And if he was, it’s gonna be a in a down year for those schools.
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Sam and Markus were good teammates, but they weren't friends.
Really? This must be new. Markus and Sam used to be great friends. I recall Markus basically going home to Stevens Point with Sam for all holidays his freshman and sophomore year.
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Kinda feels like that, doesn't it? Herro might take a little shine off of them by playing well?
yeah, well, then just play better than the other guy and ya don't have a problem. this can't all be on the doogies. i think daddy had more to do with this than anyone is surmising. there are many more tim maymons out there than we hear of. mr ball has been kinda quiet lately too. i realize the initial angst was on wojo, but as cooler heads stat to prevail, there will be "the rest of the story" anyone seen mh walkin around with sh's girlfirend?
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They will be Badgers by the end of the week or next week.
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Sam still should have declared before the deadline.
To the best of my knowledge he could declare and still enter his name in the transfer portal (Not entirely sure). That would have given him the most options.
Nobody wants a 24 year old second rounder.
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They will be Badgers by the end of the week or next week.
that's it-scratchin 2 names off my christmas list
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They will be Badgers by the end of the week or next week.
If true this should drastically change the “I wish them well” thread narrative. They’ll be dead to me if they do this.
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Sam still should have declared before the deadline.
To the best of my knowledge he could declare and still enter his name in the transfer portal (Not entirely sure). That would have given him the most options.
Nobody wants a 24 year old second rounder.
The deadline hasn't come yet. He can still declare, but if he does, he's gone. No transfer, no options. NBA or go pro elsewhere.
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If true this should drastically change the “I wish them well” thread narrative. They’ll be dead to me if they do this.
Going to UW would show how much they think of MU fans.
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Hausers didn't wanna play wit Herro ether, hey?
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They will be Badgers by the end of the week or next week.
We will know when KenPom moves the Badgers up to top ten.
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Sam still should have declared before the deadline.
To the best of my knowledge he could declare and still enter his name in the transfer portal (Not entirely sure). That would have given him the most options.
Nobody wants a 24 year old second rounder.
The Spurs drafted one in the first round - Derek White. A guy who started in D2 and transferred up.
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Sew, now Bennett sucks ass like Shaka, hey?
Nads, back in yo sports writin' daze were ewe ever critical of athletes or coaches? Or, just middle of the road? Just axin', hey?
Just sideline reporters, eh.
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Sam still should have declared before the deadline.
To the best of my knowledge he could declare and still enter his name in the transfer portal (Not entirely sure). That would have given him the most options.
Nobody wants a 24 year old second rounder.
This seems to support the hasty decision hypothesis or when researched all options were not considered.
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Sam still should have declared before the deadline.
To the best of my knowledge he could declare and still enter his name in the transfer portal (Not entirely sure). That would have given him the most options.
Nobody wants a 24 year old second rounder.
A 24 year old is actually perfect for the second round. You don't have to guaranty them a contract, but if they have upside and hit shots, then you have yourself a player.
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The Spurs drafted one in the first round - Derek White. A guy who started in D2 and transferred up.
Derrick White was 22 when he was drafted.
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The speculation and bagging on the Hausers here for leaving is incredible. What if it wasn't about them "getting theirs" at all?? I mean do we even know if Sam wants to play at the next level?? Some kids don't. I mean in 4 years he never submitted his name for evaluation, you never heard him talk about playing in the NBA in interviews(almost every kid does at some point). Ever think that this could simply be about wanting to win at the highest level and not having faith in Wojo to get them there?? The 1-6 end to the season played a HUGE part in this.
Have any of you ever worked in an environment so toxic, you just had to get out for your own mental health??
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A 24 year old is actually perfect for the second round. You don't have to guaranty them a contract, but if they have upside and hit shots, then you have yourself a player.
You know what's even more perfect than that...the exact same player when they are 21 going on 22
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The speculation and bagging on the Hausers here for leaving is incredible. What if it wasn't about them "getting theirs" at all?? I mean do we even know if Sam wants to play at the next level?? Some kids don't. I mean in 4 years he never submitted his name for evaluation, you never heard him talk about playing in the NBA in interviews(almost every kid does at some point). Ever think that this could simply be about wanting to win at the highest level and not having faith in Wojo to get them there?? The 1-6 end to the season played a HUGE part in this.
Have any of you ever worked in an environment so toxic, you just had to get out for your own mental health??
In other words:
"The speculation here on their reasons for leaving is incredible .... now allow me to speculate on their reasons for leaving.
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In other words:
"The speculation here on their reasons for leaving is incredible .... now allow me to speculate on their reasons for leaving.
How do you know I'm speculating?? That's a pretty bold assumption to be making.
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How do you know I'm speculating?? That's a pretty bold assumption to be making.
Given your track record, it's a safe assumption.
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You know what's even more perfect than that...the exact same player when they are 21 going on 22
But the point is he won't be the same player. He'll have two more years experience.
Look, I get your point, but the idea that the NBA won't take a flyer on a 24 year old isn't accurate. Look at the second round of the 2018 draft. Devonte Graham was 24. So was George King. Jaron Blossomgame and Kadeem Allen were the year prior.
If an NBA team thinks Sam can contribute at a relatively advanced age, they will most certainly still draft him.
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Given your track record, it's a safe assumption.
Mmmmk if you say so. Was I not calling for Wojo to be fired after the season ended, much to the chastising of everyone here?? How does that look now?? I wasn't just shouting that to shout it. But of course what could I possibly know, after all I'm just a regular poster on an MU message board, right??
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Mmmmk if you say so. Was I not calling for Wojo to be fired after the season ended, much to the chastising of everyone here?? How does that look now?? I wasn't just shouting that to shout it. But of course what could I possibly know, after all I'm just a regular poster on an MU message board, right??
That's not the same thing.
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I think that’s the biggest indictment of Wojo. How bad does it have to be that causes them to make a decision like that?
If Wojo is so bad, why did Markus decide to stay?
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The whole thing doesn’t make sense. Sam sits one year to play one year. Joey gives up a year of eligibility to sit one year and play two. It’s a bad look for everyone involved.
Honestly, if that was me at 21 I might consider that. If someone was going to pay me to play school for another year and had a chance to go to top program, 2 years is better than 1. He sits out next and gets to be part of a championship caliber team for a year and comes back even better as a super-senior. It probably hurts his long-term earnings potential but short-term he will get a lot of enjoyment out of it if it plays out right.
It's a good thing I went to Marquette and saw the debt meter rising daily, otherwise I might've taken the six year route.
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If Wojo is so bad, why did Markus decide to stay?
Cause he lets him take 30 shots a game as the star, with enough of a leash to piss off the second and third best players into transferring. Who wouldn’t want that?
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Mmmmk if you say so. Was I not calling for Wojo to be fired after the season ended, much to the chastising of everyone here?? How does that look now?? I wasn't just shouting that to shout it. But of course what could I possibly know, after all I'm just a regular poster on an MU message board, right??
Are you suggesting that everyone who was calling for Wojo to be fired after the season ended had inside information? Knew the Hausers were going to transfer? Because that was a lot of people. Apparently, this was the worst kept secret ever.
More likely, you and many other people were pissed about how the season went (a reasonable position to take) and thought that Wojo should be fired based solely on that. No inside information was needed to form that opinion.
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How do you know I'm speculating?? That's a pretty bold assumption to be making.
Are you?
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But the point is he won't be the same player. He'll have two more years experience.
Look, I get your point, but the idea that the NBA won't take a flyer on a 24 year old isn't accurate. Look at the second round of the 2018 draft. Devonte Graham was 24. So was George King. Jaron Blossomgame and Kadeem Allen were the year prior.
If an NBA team thinks Sam can contribute at a relatively advanced age, they will most certainly still draft him.
I just don't see Sam becoming that player good enough to overcome his age. He's a 6'8" guy too slow to guard wings and would get destroyed inside. I don't think he changes his flaws with exposure as a senior. He does however showcase himself for the Euroleagues.
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Cause he lets him take 30 shots a game as the star, with enough of a leash to piss off the second and third best players into transferring. Who wouldn’t want that?
Let the record reflect, Markus has never taken 30 shots in a game.
He's taken more than 25 shots on six occasions (three last season, three this season) in 99 career games, aka 6.06 percent.
In those six games, Markus shot 45.5 percent from the field, 46.6 percent from behind the arc and averaged 38 points per game.
MU went 4-2 in those games, with three of those wins coming in OT.
In other words, these largely were games when he should have been shooting 25+ times from the field. Anyone complaining about his shot volume in those games is dumb.
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Let the record reflect, Markus has never taken 30 shots in a game.
He's taken more than 25 shots on six occasions (three last season, three this season) in 99 career games, aka 6.06 percent.
In those six games, Markus shot 45.5 percent from the field, 46.6 percent from behind the arc and averaged 38 points per game.
MU went 4-2 in those games, with three of those wins coming in OT.
In other words, these largely were games when he should have been shooting 25+ times from the field. Anyone complaining about his shot volume in those games is dumb.
Facts.
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Mmmmk if you say so. Was I not calling for Wojo to be fired after the season ended, much to the chastising of everyone here?? How does that look now?? I wasn't just shouting that to shout it. But of course what could I possibly know, after all I'm just a regular poster on an MU message board, right??
You're not just a regular poster. Dont let anyone tell you that. You are a football fan. A man among men...as smart as you are tenatious. You are old school...you dont conform to modern day wussiness. You remain true to your ancestral past. You sir, are not "regular." You are a MAN.
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Any idea of what kinda money Sam might be walking away from as an all time great on a MU FF team? I understand a few ifs and assumption, but got to figure he could make some coin in the Milwaukee area for years to come if the team did well next year?
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Any idea of what kinda money Sam might be walking away from as an all time great on a MU FF team? I understand a few ifs and assumption, but got to figure he could make some coin in the Milwaukee area for years to come if the team did well next year?
If he goes to Madison, he can be like all ex-Badger ballers and use their degree and make a living talking sports on the radio
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Who knows. I do hope Wojo replaces them with quicker players. Imo, Joey is just to slow and athletic teams lit him up.
The Hauser kids are clearly saying “Don’t F with us”
Buzz would say about the Hauser kids “You can’t F with em...with them”
#Slow.
Goodbye.
Let them be Badgers for all I care.
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The Hauser kids are clearly saying “Don’t F with us”
Buzz would say about the Hauser kids “You can’t F with em...with them”
#Slow.
Goodbye.
Let them be Badgers for all I care.
You and others here are butt hurt that the Hausers left and are saying bad things about them as a result. They’re very, very good college players who are in line to go to MSU, Virginia, or UW, three top college b-ball programs. Any school would be thrilled to have them come aboard.
We had them, and Wojo screwed it up because he’s in over his head and can’t manage egos, which is one or the biggest jobs a coach has.
Sam Hauser might be wearing red next year. Just let that sink in. And it’s on Wojo.
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Mmmmk if you say so. Was I not calling for Wojo to be fired after the season ended, much to the chastising of everyone here?? How does that look now?? I wasn't just shouting that to shout it. But of course what could I possibly know, after all I'm just a regular poster on an MU message board, right??
You’ve been calling for him to be fired for over 2 years. Let’s not act like you know something all of a sudden and you saw this coming down the pipe for 2 years.
And you are speculating after telling everyone else not to speculate. Interesting.
How do you know the hauser are not just sick of the weather. What if both of their girlfriends broke up with them and they just don’t want to be in mke anymore? Those are possibilities too! Speculate away everyone.
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You and others here are butt hurt that the Hausers left and are saying bad things about them as a result. They’re very, very good college players who are in line to go to MSU, Virginia, or UW, three top college b-ball programs. Any school would be thrilled to have them come aboard.
We had them, and Wojo screwed it up because he’s in over his head and can’t manage egos, which is one or the biggest jobs a coach has.
Sam Hauser might be wearing red next year. Just let that sink in. And it’s on Wojo.
Say it louder for the people in the back!
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You and others here are butt hurt that the Hausers left and are saying bad things about them as a result. They’re very, very good college players who are in line to go to MSU, Virginia, or UW, three top college b-ball programs. Any school would be thrilled to have them come aboard.
We had them, and Wojo screwed it up because he’s in over his head and can’t manage egos, which is one or the biggest jobs a coach has.
Sam Hauser might be wearing red next year. Just let that sink in. And it’s on Wojo.
It’s funny how the sky-is-falling crowd is so quick to lay blame when they have none of the locker room facts whatsoever, yet when I make an observation about a fact about play on the floor I’m “butt-hurt.”
Sam and Joey have some of the slowest foot speed of any high Div1 program playing major minutes in the NCAA tournament...AND THEY ARE ON THE FLOOR TOGETHER for much of the game. Both of my Div1 playing friends (one of whom has an NCAA ring) alerted me to this fact, which was evident to me throughout the season as well. Sam is an extremely crafty, smart player. He will make a nice living some day. I think Joey is really overrated, but will get his act together at some point. I don’t think he’ll ever be able to defend anyone. That’s an opinion.
Something had to give with the ridiculous depth we had going into next season. Sorry that you’re not handling it well by worrying about where the Hausers end up more than worrying about how we plug the holes on the roster going forward. But I’m the one who’s butt-hurt.
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You and others here are butt hurt that the Hausers left and are saying bad things about them as a result. They’re very, very good college players who are in line to go to MSU, Virginia, or UW, three top college b-ball programs. Any school would be thrilled to have them come aboard.
We had them, and Wojo screwed it up because he’s in over his head and can’t manage egos, which is one or the biggest jobs a coach has.
Sam Hauser might be wearing red next year. Just let that sink in. And it’s on Wojo.
And another thing. Goose and others like him on this board, whose opinion I respect, have called out Wojo for his teams being a mix of parts that don’t fit, that we have NO IDENTITY. Now, at the end of the year, when there was a question about our identity going forward...maybe Wojo decided to ride a horse that would mesh better with the kind of athletes we have..to play a bit quicker. Just maybe he told Sam and Joey that they wouldn’t be on the floor TOGETHER as much next season. How many minutes would Sam lose? Not many. Maybe Sam took issue to hearing about slightly reduced minutes for his bro. Who knows? But now that our identity is going to get clearer going forward ( and this is not spin) these same people are going all chicken little.
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It’s funny how the sky-is-falling crowd is so quick to lay blame when they have none of the locker room facts whatsoever, yet when I make an observation about a fact about play on the floor I’m “butt-hurt.”
Sam and Joey have some of the slowest foot speed of any high Div1 program playing major minutes in the NCAA tournament...AND THEY ARE ON THE FLOOR TOGETHER for much of the game. Both of my Div1 playing friends (one of whom has an NCAA ring) alerted me to this fact, which was evident to me throughout the season as well. Sam is an extremely crafty, smart player. He will make a nice living some day. I think Joey is really overrated, but will get his act together at some point. I don’t think he’ll ever be able to defend anyone. That’s an opinion.
Something had to give with the ridiculous depth we had going into next season. Sorry that you’re not handling it well by worrying about where the Hausers end up more than worrying about how we plug the holes on the roster going forward. But I’m the one who’s butt-hurt.
If you want to talk about how slow Sam and Joey are and use that to rationalize why losing them is okay, go ahead.
It’s not just about two players transferring. It’s not about plugging holes next year. Losing the Hausers was an embarrassment and will cast a dark cloud over the program for at least the next two years while they’re still in college, if not longer. It’s the type of blow we may not recover from until we do something drastic like get rid of Wojo.
In terms of college basketball, losing the Hausers in the fashion we did is absolutely a “sky is falling” moment. Short of major sanctions, this is the worst thing that could’ve happened to this program at this particular time.
And to reply to your last post re: team identity, that’s just pure speculation on your part.
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It’s funny how the sky-is-falling crowd is so quick to lay blame when they have none of the locker room facts whatsoever, yet when I make an observation about a fact about play on the floor I’m “butt-hurt.”
Sam and Joey have some of the slowest foot speed of any high Div1 program playing major minutes in the NCAA tournament...AND THEY ARE ON THE FLOOR TOGETHER for much of the game. Both of my Div1 playing friends (one of whom has an NCAA ring) alerted me to this fact, which was evident to me throughout the season as well. Sam is an extremely crafty, smart player. He will make a nice living some day. I think Joey is really overrated, but will get his act together at some point. I don’t think he’ll ever be able to defend anyone. That’s an opinion.
Something had to give with the ridiculous depth we had going into next season. Sorry that you’re not handling it well by worrying about where the Hausers end up more than worrying about how we plug the holes on the roster going forward. But I’m the one who’s butt-hurt.
The players who should be transferring when there is tons of depth on a potential Final Four team is the benchwarmers, not 2 starters averaging 30+ minutes and 26 points combined. Anybody not freaking out right now needs their head examined.
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Anybody not freaking out right now needs their head examined.
Weird. I think those freaking out need to get some life perspective.
To each their own!
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Weird. I think those freaking out need to get some life perspective.
To each their own!
Beat me to it.
Nobody should freak out because a college kid they don't know decided to change schools.
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You and others here are butt hurt that the Hausers left and are saying bad things about them as a result. They’re very, very good college players who are in line to go to MSU, Virginia, or UW, three top college b-ball programs. Any school would be thrilled to have them come aboard.
We had them, and Wojo screwed it up because he’s in over his head and can’t manage egos, which is one or the biggest jobs a coach has.
Sam Hauser might be wearing red next year. Just let that sink in. And it’s on Wojo.
This guy gets it.
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Weird. I think those freaking out need to get some life perspective.
To each their own!
Respectfully, this is such a lame take. The choice is that of the Hausers', nobody else, and best of luck to them.
With that said, as fans, we commit our time, money, and heart to this program. The Hausers made a decision that they feel is in their best interest and in doing so, broke their commitment to the program. I'm not equating their decision to death or divorce, but it's a broken commitment, and as such, there are hard feelings. I'll choose not to speak ill of the Hausers, but I'll make no apology for being extremely frustrated with the inevitable fallout that will occur as a result of their decision.
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Respectfully, this is such a lame take.
Uh. Ok.
SIgned,
Mr Lameo
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Sew, now Bennett sucks ass like Shaka, hey?
Eye dont yooz teel
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Have some perspective, people. Yes, it is sad that the Hausers are leaving, and I am among the multitudes that did not see it coming. I love the way Sam plays and will miss it a lot next season. Joey was very good technically, and could be great once he loses his baby fat. It is devastating and we may never know exactly why it happened (but many of you will rehash your speculation over and over and over again).
In addition to that, Markus is an absolute star. Will be the highest scorer in MU history by far. One of 15 players in the country that received an All-American tag this year. Scored 40 points in a half. Scored 53 in a game we had no business winning (and no, I did not forget about the miracle shot Sam made to get MU to overtime). Markus Howard actually forced ESPN to talk about Marquette - there's an accomplishment. I am thrilled to see him back and can't wait to see what he will do next season.
There's good and there's bad, but the bottom line is that the Hausers decided they wanted to play elsewhere and are willing to give up quite a bit to do it (an extra year for Sam, a loss of one year eligibility for Joey). I don't really care why it happened. It could be due to any number of reasons. But I will mourn it, and I will move on, because my team is Marquette, not Hauser or Wojo.
Just in general, I've been a little sad about the lack of comity on this board lately. We all have opinions that we like to share, and I learn a lot from the basketball gurus (no, not you, guru), but the name calling and treatment of posters has been abhorrent lately. It needs to stop. Someone who disagrees with you is not a moron, or a slurper, or any of the wose names I've seen around here. Let's try to pretend that we are intelligent people discussing differing opinions, and not social media trolls.
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If you want to talk about how slow Sam and Joey are and use that to rationalize why losing them is okay, go ahead.
It’s not just about two players transferring. It’s not about plugging holes next year. Losing the Hausers was an embarrassment and will cast a dark cloud over the program for at least the next two years while they’re still in college, if not longer. It’s the type of blow we may not recover from until we do something drastic like get rid of Wojo.
In terms of college basketball, losing the Hausers in the fashion we did is absolutely a “sky is falling” moment. Short of major sanctions, this is the worst thing that could’ve happened to this program at this particular time.
And to reply to your last post re: team identity, that’s just pure speculation on your part.
This is a relatively level-headed post, but the part about losing the Hausers casting a dark cloud over the program and it being a blow that we may not ever recover from....UNLESS WE FIRE WOJO....explains everything.
Let’s look at a timetable of events. So, in Round 1of the NCAA, while our offense is stagnant, our clear deficiencies on Defense, an area Wojo has been under the most pressure to shore up, is the main culprit AGAIN in our loss to Murray State. People with a critical eye see how profoundly slow we are defensively (Goose, Keefe, 4ever, and the carnivorous summiteers go into hypermode complaining about our lack of athleticism). Wojo, just maybe, agrees with this analysis and comes to the realization that you can’t play both Sam and Joey together on the floor for extended minutes and expect to hang with ultra-athletic teams.
Eerily, despite never being afraid of criticism (except for the PC hiccup in ‘17) and what those outside the program think, Wojo decides to kill his Twitter account after the Murray State debacle. The MU-niverse goes crazy thinking he HAS to be taking another job. A guy who coached at Duke is worried about what us idiots think? Please. Maybe, he knew that with the locker room dissension over showcasing and shot attempts that something drastic could happen after the exit meetings with the players. Maybe he knew “Hauseroshima” was imminent, or maybe “Markussaki” was imminent instead. I think he saw this coming after the epiphany that was our late season collapse.
Again, I don’t see the Hausers as irreplaceable talents. You do. I’m cool with that. But, I would wait to see who we get to fill these holes before I drop another atomic bomb on the program. The season is 7 months away.
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Have some perspective, people. Yes, it is sad that the Hausers are leaving, and I am among the multitudes that did not see it coming. I love the way Sam plays and will miss it a lot next season. Joey was very good technically, and could be great once he loses his baby fat. It is devastating and we may never know exactly why it happened (but many of you will rehash your speculation over and over and over again).
In addition to that, Markus is an absolute star. Will be the highest scorer in MU history by far. One of 15 players in the country that received an All-American tag this year. Scored 40 points in a half. Scored 53 in a game we had no business winning (and no, I did not forget about the miracle shot Sam made to get MU to overtime). Markus Howard actually forced ESPN to talk about Marquette - there's an accomplishment. I am thrilled to see him back and can't wait to see what he will do next season.
There's good and there's bad, but the bottom line is that the Hausers decided they wanted to play elsewhere and are willing to give up quite a bit to do it (an extra year for Sam, a loss of one year eligibility for Joey). I don't really care why it happened. It could be due to any number of reasons. But I will mourn it, and I will move on, because my team is Marquette, not Hauser or Wojo.
Just in general, I've been a little sad about the lack of comity on this board lately. We all have opinions that we like to share, and I learn a lot from the basketball gurus (no, not you, guru), but the name calling and treatment of posters has been abhorrent lately. It needs to stop. Someone who disagrees with you is not a moron, or a slurper, or any of the wose names I've seen around here. Let's try to pretend that we are intelligent people discussing differing opinions, and not social media trolls.
What a stoopid post!
Seriously, MoM, I really like what you said here. Perspective is not easy to find on most interwebs fan sites, especially after a dose of huge, negative news. Hopefully, those reading this (including me) might take a couple of deep breaths and realize that life is pretty great.
Thanks for posting.
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Have some perspective, people. Yes, it is sad that the Hausers are leaving, and I am among the multitudes that did not see it coming. I love the way Sam plays and will miss it a lot next season. Joey was very good technically, and could be great once he loses his baby fat. It is devastating and we may never know exactly why it happened (but many of you will rehash your speculation over and over and over again).
In addition to that, Markus is an absolute star. Will be the highest scorer in MU history by far. One of 15 players in the country that received an All-American tag this year. Scored 40 points in a half. Scored 53 in a game we had no business winning (and no, I did not forget about the miracle shot Sam made to get MU to overtime). Markus Howard actually forced ESPN to talk about Marquette - there's an accomplishment. I am thrilled to see him back and can't wait to see what he will do next season.
There's good and there's bad, but the bottom line is that the Hausers decided they wanted to play elsewhere and are willing to give up quite a bit to do it (an extra year for Sam, a loss of one year eligibility for Joey). I don't really care why it happened. It could be due to any number of reasons. But I will mourn it, and I will move on, because my team is Marquette, not Hauser or Wojo.
Just in general, I've been a little sad about the lack of comity on this board lately. We all have opinions that we like to share, and I learn a lot from the basketball gurus (no, not you, guru), but the name calling and treatment of posters has been abhorrent lately. It needs to stop. Someone who disagrees with you is not a moron, or a slurper, or any of the wose names I've seen around here. Let's try to pretend that we are intelligent people discussing differing opinions, and not social media trolls.
I will echo MU82 in my praise.
This is a really, really good post.
I am guilty of some of the transgressions you call out.
Can I say 2 Hail Moms, 3 Our Lovell’s, 2 Ring Out Ahoyas and seek to be absolved?
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Do people believe that Sam really wanted to transfer?Has one year left.Going to sit a year and play one.Makes no sense to me.Is he leaving because of Joey?If that is the case it is a sad situation.
Right on. Seems really dumb on Sam's part. He would have finished as one of the great Warriors. Now he will be remembered as a "quitter."