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Telling people not to travel at Christmas might not have much of an impact though. Tons of people ignored advisories about travel and gatherings at Thanksgiving and I expect the same thing at Christmas unfortunately.
Actually their response to the true second wave has been ok. Not great but better than round one. The French model for response to the second wave should be something we study (they kept the schools open)
I've been told nothing anyone does can change the outcome of this virus. It has to be fake news. This is all a hoax to get 45 out of office, and even that didn't work, as 45 won the election in a runaway, there is just massive voter fraud everywhere.The best president of our lifetime has handled this thing perfectly. China's fault.
Further to this, an article hit my morning news feed on this topic. France is now rolling back the restrictions after 3-weeks because they were successful in checking the surge in cases. While they are bound to deal with this 'more open'/'more closed' toggling until broad vaccinations come, its been proven again that some restrictions can check an epidemic surge in a relatively short period of time. Also this is great because they didn't go full lockdown and kept the younger children in school.https://www.axios.com/covid-france-lockdown-end-d930d5a0-78e3-4144-9b44-5e648f12c309.html
France (like most other countries) has done a much better job than the US at tamping down surges. From the article, a couple of the strategies for reopening caught my eye:*The first stage out of lockdown will begin on Nov. 28, when nonessential businesses such as toy stores and bookshops will be allowed to reopen under strict health rules.*Outdoor after-school activities will resume, while places of worship will reopen with no more than 30 people.*Bars and restaurants are likely to remain closed until mid-January._________________________So they are allowing some nonessential businesses to reopen under strict health rules...but they are keeping bars and restaurants closed for several more weeks. This recognizes the basic reality that you can require people to wear masks (and keep them on) at toy stores, book shops and such, but it isn't feasible to do so at bars and restaurants. The US needs to wake up to this reality, and make bars and restaurants take-out and delivery only.And secondly, they are imposing a 30-person limit on houses of worship...much lower than most restrictions in the US. We need to impose strict limits on all gatherings, including those at churches.
I disagree re Restaurants and bars. Those with patios and such should be fine. Correct? I mean I've been to three breweries this weekend here in PHX and I was at least 8 feet away from anyone and outside 100% of the time. I don't think you can lump places like that in with packed dive bars.
Perhaps theoretically. Were you required to wear a mask anytime you walked to or from your table (when you might come very close to others)?
jesmu, as this virus was so new in many different ways coupled with the fact that the chinese did not play nice and it was an election year, no one really knew how to go about attacking this virus. there was NO CONTAINING this virus. what we did with this pandemic is monumental. the speed at which our bio sciences are coming up with antidotes, vaccines, anti-virals, antibodies, etc. is a testament to our dedicated research. in the past, the average time to get a vaccine out was multiples of years, not months. but you are wrong about "containing" it. this virus is not going to go away until most everyone gets it in some form or another, herd immunity is developed and/or the vaccines are effective and distributed in an efficient way. everyone's body handles it differently, but very few (if any) were immune to it.
Yes masks were required when walking to your table.
Steps to stop the virus:1. Restaurants and Bars, delivery or takeout only. Allow outdoor dining for parties of 6 or less, with social distancing of tables. 2. Those that can work from home should be strictly WFH. 3. With vaccines online, prioritize health care workers with patient contact first (no need to prioritize all heal care workers as many, (e.g. people working in billing) should be WFH (see item 2).4. Next priority of vaccines should go to essential workers that must work in person. There are 20-25M vaccines that can be administered in Dec. or early Jan. That is enough doses to cover all health care workers with patient contact, all nursing home staff or in home workers, with leftover to start vaccinate essential workers (e.g. food supply).
US coronavirus cases by month in 2020:March: 186,200April: 883,199May: 723,166June: 845,736July: 1,926,970August: 1,479,756September: 1,215,901October: 1,940,522November: 4,252,822(As of early this morning)
I think a well-enforced outdoor situation like that would pose minimal risk. Indoors would still be a problem because we know what ventilation systems can do with airborne particles and unmasked diners.
Rounding the corner.If people were responsible, outdoor dining with social distancing would be fine. The problem is we know damn well people are not responsible enough to keep things safe.It would be nice of the government would get working on a stimulus package. Then some of these restaurants would have a chance at survival if their business suffered until mid 2021 when people could get vaccinated. Instead, the government pretends there are no issues here and everyone suffers.But hey, China's fault.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/video/4904068-longmont-leadership-weld-county-leadership-at-odds-over-covid-health-orders/Colorado. Weld County refuses to enforce the state’s code red restrictions barring things like indoor dining, arguing that people can be relied on to act responsibly ( as their cases and positivity rate keep going up). They have three ICU beds left, as of three days ago. Neighboring town wants to bar their residents from being transferred to hospitals in their town. Report does make note that federal law prohibits this, but the mayor is irate at the prospect.
I suspect you are right...but I credit Fauci for at least trying. Not many in Washington are even doing that....
Yes I see your point. I'm just getting so down about the scary Covid numbers and the people who think Covid is no big deal. Oh how I wish we could count on people to listen to advisories about travel and large gatherings at Christmas. I won't be seeing my parents for Christmas in the first time ever in my many years on this Earth and haven't seen them in person since last Christmas but need to do this to try to keep them safe as my family poses too much of a risk to their health...