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See, you have NO response for it, do you??...Dr Fauci(who everyone says is an Expert and they listen to him) says "This is nothing for the US to worry about". How come?? People don't like the agenda destroyed, that's why.Besides, you're just a youngin yet Johhny...You have a lot to learn about stuff yet, and there's nothing wrong with that.
He says the average American doesn't need to be afraid of this, right then, but that we need to be concerned and prepare, which was what the CDC was doing. That was before the WHO confirmed person-to-person spread, they confirmed it that same day as the interview (Jan. 21st).Compare that to the commander in chief, who on Feb. 26th said that within a couple days there would be zero cases in the US. And on March 4th said it was "very safe to fly". Even now, we have massive failures out of the Oval Office. There is chaos, and it is due to a lack of leadership, and a lack of leadership owning their mistakes. A good start would be a smidgeon of honesty.
Debating hoops with u is already tiring enough. Aint gettin in a debate with you about the orange man 🥳
I ask you this in all honesty because you seem like a reasonable guy, and since no one has ever answered this, when I have asked this before...were you honestly expecting ZERO deaths from this?? That's how some people act, no doubt. Are we 100% certain that a quicker response would have "saved lives"?? What if those people infected would have died anyway?? I just have a hard time with the outrage over this when I never see people outraged this much over all the people that die from the flu every year, or suicide, or any other reason. Now, death matters more and people are outraged?? That confuses me.
Heres what could have made a difference **a coordinated testing plan with widespread testing available**ramp up of production of PPE and ventilators. **a coordinated and timed nationwide stay at home plan**a better coordinated economic planInstead the administration downplayed the problem for too long and now it’s all catch up. And even now, we do not have coordinated stay at home which is going to make this last longer. And you are STILL comparing this to the flu? Wake the f**k up.
A few questions for discussion:1. Why should the testing/treatment of Corona be free, but other health problems (especially life-threatening such as cancer) shouldn't be free?2. If we can afford a $4.5 trillion bailout of corporations, can't we afford medicare for all or other proposed expensive policies?3. If you believe the government response to this pandemic has been an overreach, did you also believe the government response to 9/11 was an overreach?
I am NOT comparing it to the flu...I asked a question and as you always do, when you have no way out and have been beaten, you do a "run around" and "dodge". People are OUTRAGED about people dying from Covid-19, how come there isn't the same kind of outrage when people die from other ways?? No one screams then and acts all disturbed and angry like they are now.
Because controlling the spread of the virus can save lives. Because getting control of the virus is essential to getting the economy running again. Because getting control of the virus will allow our health care system and workers to not collapse. Guru this is a global test. So far we are doing average on the health response. Still to be seen how we stuck up against the developed world in final form. This isn’t going away.
I get guru's points. The question i have had all along is if shut everything down for 2-3 months what happens when we come back and open things up. Is it really better? Are the deaths just spread out over a longer period of time so it appears better. China is almost 6 months into this and do they have a drug out there to lesson the impact once you have it. All I hear is about items that may lesson the impact or get people better but nothing concrete.
I am NOT comparing it to the flu...I asked a question and as you always do, when you have no way out and have been beaten, you do a "run around" and "dodge". People are OUTRAGED about people dying from Covid-19, how come there isn't the same kind of outrage when people die from other ways?? No one screams then and acts all disturbed and angry like they are now. Also, the second part of my question was...how do we know for CERTAIN more lives would have been saved?? That's an assumption isn't it?? Those people could have died anyway, right??
The fatality rate would be much higher if we all get this at once because essentially no one gets the hospital bed. Time allows more care and buys time for therapeutic treatment and vaccine. Also if we ever get control of this thing you can test and contact trace outbreaks. Finally I am convinced normal is not coming until there is a vaccine. There are multiple countries that are seeing cases pop back up like Singapore and Hong Kong. So not the same deaths. I can tell you that if this is uncontrolled the economy will be hit hard regardless. Imagine a whole plant getting sick. Also we need a system for after we get control. Antibody tests to clear people officially. Intrusive contact tracing and tracking on cell phone. Maybe other things. I think if we get serious about this and getting the economy going, we will need to give up some civil liberties for a period of time.
That is what scares me. normal not coming until a year from now would be insane!!It would seem to be easier to put restraints on those that or more at risk. I know everyone is at risk but if you take say anyone over 60 and those with underlying conditions that have had shown to give more problems and have them stay at home. This would seem lesson the burden on the health care systems and also keep the country moving
The fatality rate would be much higher if we all get this at once because essentially no one gets the hospital bed. Time allows more care and buys time for therapeutic treatment and vaccine. Also if we ever get control of this thing you can test and contact trace outbreaks. Finally I am convinced normal is not coming until there is a vaccine. There are multiple countries that are seeing cases pop back up like Singapore and Hong Kong.
When did we - as a nation - stop listening to experts within their respective fields? And why?
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About 3.5 years ago.