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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2900 on: August 21, 2023, 03:38:10 PM »
FWIW, I saw on The Boneyard, UCONN board, that Fox Sports still needs about the same number of games that the Big East provides in a season.  Someone did an an analysis looking at the other conference contracts and what % if games goes to where, as in ESPN, Big 10 Network, etc.  Pac12 demise even helps the Big East case too

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2901 on: August 21, 2023, 05:20:09 PM »
FWIW, I saw on The Boneyard, UCONN board, that Fox Sports still needs about the same number of games that the Big East provides in a season.  Someone did an an analysis looking at the other conference contracts and what % if games goes to where, as in ESPN, Big 10 Network, etc.  Pac12 demise even helps the Big East case too

Thank you for providing that insight!  I was wondering what the new Big 10 and Big 12 contracts did for the Fox inventory. Hoping Fox is still the partner with a few games on CBS sports network. I would not prefer to go to ESPN, because that would probably mean ESPN plus for games and not nearly the exposure as we have today. Fox does a great job with BE basketball imho.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2902 on: August 21, 2023, 07:06:45 PM »
FWIW, I saw on The Boneyard, UCONN board, that Fox Sports still needs about the same number of games that the Big East provides in a season.  Someone did an an analysis looking at the other conference contracts and what % if games goes to where, as in ESPN, Big 10 Network, etc.  Pac12 demise even helps the Big East case too
Thank you for providing that insight!  I was wondering what the new Big 10 and Big 12 contracts did for the Fox inventory. Hoping Fox is still the partner with a few games on CBS sports network. I would not prefer to go to ESPN, because that would probably mean ESPN plus for games and not nearly the exposure as we have today. Fox does a great job with BE basketball imho.
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1. Proven track record of viewers makes it easy to value
2. Major Markets
3. Championship Pedigree
4. Big Coaching Personalties
5. Consistency of Rosters year to hear
creates Viewer  interest
6. BET is historic and meaningful

I agree Fox has great production values and has done a lot for the Big East . I like that they sub out some to CBS Sports . CBS Sports has increased the Network games a little bit as well. Looking  forward to the next contract .
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2903 on: August 21, 2023, 08:32:04 PM »
Anyone have a sense of how long the next Big East media TV deal might be?  Does it make more sense to align the expiration with when another major conference's deal expires (ACC 2036?), or to set it to expire before/after other conferences?

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2904 on: August 21, 2023, 08:51:24 PM »
Anyone have a sense of how long the next Big East media TV deal might be?  Does it make more sense to align the expiration with when another major conference's deal expires (ACC 2036?), or to set it to expire before/after other conferences?

If I’m Val, I want our next media deal to come up 1-2 years before the ACC’s and negotiate both deals with ACC-poaching in mind.

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« Reply #2905 on: August 22, 2023, 12:49:46 PM »
Big East had a lot going for it Media Wise
1. Proven track record of viewers makes it easy to value
2. Major Markets
3. Championship Pedigree
4. Big Coaching Personalties
5. Consistency of Rosters year to hear
creates Viewer  interest
6. BET is historic and meaningful

I agree Fox has great production values and has done a lot for the Big East . I like that they sub out some to CBS Sports . CBS Sports has increased the Network games a little bit as well. Looking  forward to the next contract .


I found it.  Halfway down Page 7.  Game counts per broadcast outlet.

https://the-boneyard.com/threads/big-easts-next-media-deal.193018/page-7

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2906 on: August 22, 2023, 01:38:01 PM »
If I’m Val, I want our next media deal to come up 1-2 years before the ACC’s and negotiate both deals with ACC-poaching in mind.

I think that's great in theory, but how would Val account for a situation where enough ACC members vote to dissolve the conference prior to the end of the grant of rights? That could happen anytime prior to the end of their Grant of Rights (I think).

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2907 on: August 22, 2023, 01:41:58 PM »
I think the BE should sign its best deal now and not put too much thought into a potential ACC break-up. Let the chips fall where they may when that occurs. 
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« Reply #2908 on: August 22, 2023, 02:18:53 PM »
I think the BE should sign its best deal now and not put too much thought into a potential ACC break-up. Let the chips fall where they may when that occurs.
Agreed. The ACC appears to be set up for an ugly breakup/reconfiguration. I'd steer clear and pick up the pieces, if there are any, after. I think the Big12, being an instigator in the P12 demise, made sense for it's own preservation. I don't think the BE needs the ACC to fall apart, so why get involved.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2909 on: August 23, 2023, 08:54:28 PM »
Take it for what it's worth, but a survey of 100 college coaches suggests most think Gonzaga should stay where they are:

49%: remain in the WCC
18%: Pac-12 and/or MWC
17%: Join the Big East
16%: Join the Big 12

https://www.si.com/college/gonzaga/basketball/should-gonzaga-leave-the-wcc-they-are-set-up-to-win-25-30-games-every-year

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2910 on: August 23, 2023, 11:32:48 PM »

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« Reply #2912 on: August 24, 2023, 11:11:25 AM »

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2913 on: August 24, 2023, 11:33:58 AM »
Happy Anniversary!

https://bigten.org/news/2021/8/24/general-acc-big-ten-and-pac-12-announce-historic-alliance.aspx


Rico was the first here to call it.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2914 on: August 24, 2023, 12:26:17 PM »
He was being sarcastic….you know Uncle Rico style.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2915 on: August 24, 2023, 12:30:03 PM »
He was being sarcastic….you know Uncle Rico style.

Not sure if you guys heard, but thr poster behind the Uncle Rico account got busted for violating his sex offender registration and is in the can for awhile.


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« Reply #2916 on: August 24, 2023, 12:30:25 PM »
where is Rico?  doesn't feel like he's posting with usual frequency lately.

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« Reply #2917 on: August 24, 2023, 01:51:55 PM »
where is Rico?  doesn't feel like he's posting with usual frequency lately.
Not sure if you guys heard, but thr poster behind the Uncle Rico account got busted for violating his sex offender registration and is in the can for awhile.


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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2918 on: August 24, 2023, 03:16:18 PM »
Not sure if you guys heard, but thr poster behind the Uncle Rico account got busted for violating his sex offender registration and is in the can for awhile.

Turns out - it's always the people you expect the most...

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2919 on: August 24, 2023, 04:00:47 PM »
Not sure if you guys heard, but thr poster behind the Uncle Rico account got busted for violating his sex offender registration and is in the can for awhile.

If this is true it would be creepy.

The fact you know this though would be right up there too.

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« Reply #2920 on: August 24, 2023, 04:13:13 PM »
If this is true it would be creepy.

The fact you know this though would be right up there too.

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« Reply #2921 on: August 24, 2023, 05:32:12 PM »
It's what i do.  I drink and I know things.

If you are like me, it’s a positive correlation.
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« Reply #2922 on: August 24, 2023, 05:32:53 PM »
Not sure if you guys heard, but thr poster behind the Uncle Rico account got busted for violating his sex offender registration and is in the can for awhile.

He try to pick you up too? That 2 timing bad boy
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« Reply #2923 on: August 24, 2023, 06:53:27 PM »
If you are like me, it’s a positive correlation.

You must drink a lot

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #2924 on: August 24, 2023, 08:29:39 PM »
Agreed. The ACC appears to be set up for an ugly breakup/reconfiguration. I'd steer clear and pick up the pieces, if there are any, after. I think the Big12, being an instigator in the P12 demise, made sense for it's own preservation. I don't think the BE needs the ACC to fall apart, so why get involved.

With the rate of value increase for top collegiate sports content (like the Big East), the best deals are short term deals.  I'd hope we don't go beyond 6-7 years. 

In retrospect, our 12-year deal was not optimal.

 

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