More conference realignment talk

[Coleman]

So it looks like the PAC 12 is dead and even if they merge with the MWC there will be one less automatic qualifier and one additional at-large spot for the NCAA Championship.

Good point.

That is one bright spot in all of this consolidation for at large basketball teams on the bubble.

[WhiteTrash]

Good point.

That is one bright spot in all of this consolidation for at large basketball teams on the bubble.

Do you think this will get Jimmy Boeheim back? 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1691774754074644846?t=tkyD-Elh2BB5S9hh25uzhQ&s=19

We can close the book on UConn/Gonzaga to the B12....for now

[Shooter McGavin]

https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1691774754074644846?t=c0LheJpQyVJvAEMH0W9rvQ&s=19

Don’t know if this was posted before. 

[Shooter McGavin]

TAMU beat me too it

[Coleman]

Makes me wonder if GU is holding out for a Big East invite. Why else would they turn down a B12 invite? The way he phrased it ("unfortunately") it sounds like the B12 wanted them.

Unless they are truly happy in the WCC but I find that hard to believe.

[Shooter McGavin]

Makes me wonder if GU is holding out for a Big East invite. Why else would they turn down a B12 invite? The way he phrased it ("unfortunately") it sounds like the B12 wanted them.

Unless they are truly happy in the WCC but I find that hard to believe.

Sound like they were a secondary option once the pac 12 imploded.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Makes me wonder if GU is holding out for a Big East invite. Why else would they turn down a B12 invite? The way he phrased it ("unfortunately") it sounds like the B12 wanted them.

Unless they are truly happy in the WCC but I find that hard to believe.

No the Big 12 never invited them. They were always used as leverage.

[Coleman]

No the Big 12 never invited them. They were always used as leverage.

That makes more sense.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Makes me wonder if GU is holding out for a Big East invite. Why else would they turn down a B12 invite? The way he phrased it ("unfortunately") it sounds like the B12 wanted them.

Unless they are truly happy in the WCC but I find that hard to believe.

The B12 Commissioner wanted them. The B12 schools did not. Yormak is a true believer that the B12 should pursue some basketball only schools...but right now the finances really don't make sense so he couldn't get the schools on board. In the future if the financials make sense, Yormak will have them right back in the mix pursuing basketball only schools.

[Dickthedribbler]

Makes me wonder if GU is holding out for a Big East invite. Why else would they turn down a B12 invite? The way he phrased it ("unfortunately") it sounds like the B12 wanted them.

Unless they are truly happy in the WCC but I find that hard to believe.

I wouldn't necessarily conclude that Gonzaga or UCONN turned down anything.

Over the last number of months the stories I always read were that Commissioner Yormak was hell bent on getting both GU and UCONN into the B12, but that the B12 University Presidents were dead set against adding basketball only schools and that they would never vote for it.

My guess about what happened here is that the University Presidents, who are ultimately in charge of expansion, told Yormak that they're tired of hearing about it because it ain't going to happen, so he should shut up and stop talking about it.

I think Yormak saying " unfortunately, it didn't work out" is just his polite spin on the matter, and everyone moves on.

[Spotcheck Billy]

TAMU beat me too it

...by 5 seconds

[MUbiz]

https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1691774754074644846?t=tkyD-Elh2BB5S9hh25uzhQ&s=19

We can close the book on UConn/Gonzaga to the B12....for now

Having UConn in the BE for the foreseeable future should help with the next TV contract. Very curious to see what happens going forward.

[Dickthedribbler]

Having UConn in the BE for the foreseeable future should help with the next TV contract. Very curious to see what happens going forward.

100%.

And I don't think it's possible to overstate the importance of this.

[Shooter McGavin]

100%.

And I don't think it's possible to overstate the importance of this.

Yep, yep.  This is great news for now.  As long as the ACC implosion doesn’t occur for two more years, before they cobble together a conference of crapty football schools and ask UConn to join them, this should be great for the next TV contract. 

Time to add Gonzaga as well. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

...by 5 seconds

That's one hour as measured in "Pitino Time".

[Spotcheck Billy]

This is the 1st mentions of Duke fans considering the Big East, from the Duke BB report:We’re sure everyone has done their due diligence and so on, but we really haven’t heard this idea mentioned: what about the Big East?
The big negative would obviously be the functional end of Duke football and Duke has a brilliant, if distant football history. And David Cutcliffe and Mike Elko have done much to breathe life into a program that was beyond life support: at one point, Duke actually argued that it should be allowed to cancel a game with Louisville because any substitute D-1 team would be a better program - and the judge agreed.
But the Big East has re-emerged as a great basketball league and at the end of the day, basketball is Duke’s crown jewel. It would also allow Duke to escape the endless aftershocks of realignment.
We’d vastly prefer the ACC, but clearly there are no guarantees of anything today.

[Coleman]

This is the 1st mentions of Duke fans considering the Big East, from the Duke BB report:We’re sure everyone has done their due diligence and so on, but we really haven’t heard this idea mentioned: what about the Big East?
The big negative would obviously be the functional end of Duke football and Duke has a brilliant, if distant football history. And David Cutcliffe and Mike Elko have done much to breathe life into a program that was beyond life support: at one point, Duke actually argued that it should be allowed to cancel a game with Louisville because any substitute D-1 team would be a better program - and the judge agreed.
But the Big East has re-emerged as a great basketball league and at the end of the day, basketball is Duke’s crown jewel. It would also allow Duke to escape the endless aftershocks of realignment.
We’d vastly prefer the ACC, but clearly there are no guarantees of anything today.

I'm starting to wonder if more teams will begin considering going Independent for football if it makes sense for them, a la UConn. I'm not saying Duke should or shouldn't, but it makes more sense now than it did 10 years ago.

[The Lens]

I'm starting to wonder if more teams will begin considering going Independent for football if it makes sense for them, a la UConn. I'm not saying Duke should or shouldn't, but it makes more sense now than it did 10 years ago.

The Athletic has an article yesterday with many coaches on and off the record calling for football to break away and order to be restored conference wise.  It's probably 10 years away but good to hear it being considered. 

[MU82]

The Athletic has an article yesterday with many coaches on and off the record calling for football to break away and order to be restored conference wise.  It's probably 10 years away but good to hear it being considered.

But the article also pointed out how very difficult this will be, given that football underwrites the entire athletic departments at many, many schools.

[79Warrior]

The Athletic has an article yesterday with many coaches on and off the record calling for football to break away and order to be restored conference wise.  It's probably 10 years away but good to hear it being considered.
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I think that is an idea worth considering. The conference roulette chaos is getting old.

[The Lens]

But the article also pointed out how very difficult this will be, given that football underwrites the entire athletic departments at many, many schools.

Correct but having Chip Kelly and Nate Oats on the record calling for it is a very big first step in the right direction. 

[bilsu]

But the article also pointed out how very difficult this will be, given that football underwrites the entire athletic departments at many, many schools.

I do not see why football being in a separate conference from the other school's sports would be a negative financially.
The other sports could have less travel costs, so it might actually be a positive.

[The Lens]

I do not see why football being in a separate conference from the other school's sports would be a negative financially.
The other sports could have less travel costs, so it might actually be a positive.

West Va's travel expenses in their last year of the Big East were 4 million, their first year of the Big 12 they were 8 million.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

West Va's travel expenses in their last year of the Big East were 4 million, their first year of the Big 12 they were 8 million.

This is me feeling bad for WVU.


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