More conference realignment talk

[MU82]

UNC has a standing offer to join the SEC. When they decide to make that move it’s game over for the ACC. For now they continue to believe in their conference and its traditional rivals.

Big Ten very much wants UNC and has let them know on numerous occasions. Virginia, too.

[lawdog77]

It baffles me that we are close to a world in which neither the flagship university of the largest state in the country nor the university with the closest ties to the biggest sporting apparel company are in a major conference.

The future PAC 12 of the Washington schools, the Oregon schools, Cal, Stanford, Boise, SDSU, Fresno, and Nevada is a little geographically spread out but is clearly a second or third tier league.

[Uncle Rico]

https://youtu.be/K9cYcRotufU

[lawdog77]

https://youtu.be/K9cYcRotufU

Love the comment below that:
This has something for everyone. It involves alchemy, terrorism, armageddon, space travel, the crossing of dimensions, and ice hockey, all performed by a polar bear.  A+ 10/10

[Uncle Rico]

Love the comment below that:
This has something for everyone. It involves alchemy, terrorism, armageddon, space travel, the crossing of dimensions, and ice hockey, all performed by a polar bear.  A+ 10/10

They have a different one for each season.  I think they retired the use of the terrorist bear a few seasons back.  I’m fond of this one for blowing up Michigan State, Ohio State and Miami (OH) for some reason

[WhiteTrash]

I read an article over the weekend that made a case that the ACC could dissolve. The ESPN contracts doe not account for dissolution and the GoR is meaningless if the ACC goes away.

The ACC is an LLC (I believe) in North Carolina that only requires a majority of members to approve dissolving the entity. The author thought it entirely possible that the power schools are so upset about the financial arrangement, for the next 13 years, that blowing up the ACC is preferable. The shortfall compared to the Big10 & SEC could be $500-$600 million per school.

Schools likely to vote for ending the ACC are: FSU, Miami, Clemson, NC, Virginia, NCST, VT. Possible schools would be Duke, ND and UofL. I believe they need 8 votes.

I think there is a strong possibility that the ACC is going away. I don't know if that is good or bad for MU. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

My schaefenfreude when then ACC disintegrates will be almost uncontainable. Cuse, Louisville, Pitt, BC… talk about sleeping in the bed you made…

Me thinks you missed the scurviest of them all.

[JWags85]

They have a different one for each season.  I think they retired the use of the terrorist bear a few seasons back.  I’m fond of this one for blowing up Michigan State, Ohio State and Miami (OH) for some reason

It was back during the old iteration CCHA hockey conference that they were in.  MSU, OSU, Miami, and Michigan were the big dogs in the conference at the time. 

Made Gonzaga in the BE travel talk seem light.  Entire conference was in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana...except UAF.  What a commute

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I read an article over the weekend that made a case that the ACC could dissolve. The ESPN contracts doe not account for dissolution and the GoR is meaningless if the ACC goes away.

The ACC is an LLC (I believe) in North Carolina that only requires a majority of members to approve dissolving the entity. The author thought it entirely possible that the power schools are so upset about the financial arrangement, for the next 13 years, that blowing up the ACC is preferable. The shortfall compared to the Big10 & SEC could be $500-$600 million per school.

Schools likely to vote for ending the ACC are: FSU, Miami, Clemson, NC, Virginia, NCST, VT. Possible schools would be Duke, ND and UofL. I believe they need 8 votes.

I think there is a strong possibility that the ACC is going away. I don't know if that is good or bad for MU.

This has been my theory ever since it became clear that the B12 was going to emerge as the winner over the P12 and ACC. Whenever the B1G/SEC decide they are going to expand, they will take a combined 8+ ACC teams and those teams will vote to dissolve the ACC to end the GoR and exit fees, essentially making them free agents. The leftovers will need to decide if they reform the ACC with whatever is left in the AAC or will be free to be picked up by the Big East and AAC.

[Coleman]

This has been my theory ever since it became clear that the B12 was going to emerge as the winner over the P12 and ACC. Whenever the B1G/SEC decide they are going to expand, they will take a combined 8+ ACC teams and those teams will vote to dissolve the ACC to end the GoR and exit fees, essentially making them free agents. The leftovers will need to decide if they reform the ACC with whatever is left in the AAC or will be free to be picked up by the Big East and AAC.

What a cluster. I hate it. I wish we could just keep things as-is.

[Skatastrophy]

What a cluster. I hate it. I wish we could just keep things as-is.

MU and other non-football schools need to start a PAC. That PAC's aim will be to make football contactless for minors, which should effectively kill interest in football (and, mostly, save basketball conferences)

[wisblue]

What a cluster. I hate it. I wish we could just keep things as-is.

I'll top that. I wish things could go back to where they were several iterations ago.

Between these mega conferences, NIL, and free transfers it's going to be a lot harder for me to maintain interest in major college sports.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'll top that. I wish things could go back to where they were several iterations ago.

Between these mega conferences, NIL, and free transfers it's going to be a lot harder for me to maintain interest in major college sports.

Why?

[Coleman]

I'll top that. I wish things could go back to where they were several iterations ago.

Between these mega conferences, NIL, and free transfers it's going to be a lot harder for me to maintain interest in major college sports.

The Big East 2005-2013 was fun but I actually like the current setup better. I'm good. Let the football conferences do whatever they want.

I don't have a problem with NIL or the transfer portal, in theory. They may need tweaking.

[pbiflyer]

Me thinks you missed the scurviest of them all.

You can't spell scum without UM.

[brewcity77]

The Big East 2005-2013 was fun but I actually like the current setup better. I'm good. Let the football conferences do whatever they want.

I don't have a problem with NIL or the transfer portal, in theory. They may need tweaking.

Agree completely. I'm really hoping we don't have football schools coming along and poaching basketball programs. I love this league's stability, balance, and schedule.

[cheebs09]

The Big East 2005-2013 was fun but I actually like the current setup better. I'm good. Let the football conferences do whatever they want.

I don't have a problem with NIL or the transfer portal, in theory. They may need tweaking.

Yea, I’d argue that version of the Big East was one of the first mega conferences.

[Shooter McGavin]

Agree completely. I'm really hoping we don't have football schools coming along and poaching basketball programs. I love this league's stability, balance, and schedule.

Yep. Hopefully this league will not be broken up by poaching.  Would be a shame and make it difficult to watch MU basketball if they land in some sort of inferior conference.  Knowing MU is in a conference that is top 5 every year puts MU on an elite level with elite competition as it should be.  Playing the likes of East Carolina every year in a make shift league of after thoughts would be discouraging.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The Big East could get poached but I don't think they will. I think we won't lose any members. We may gain members which would be good for the health of the conference but could dilute the product a bit.

[Coleman]

The Big East could get poached but I don't think they will. I think we won't lose any members. We may gain members which would be good for the health of the conference but could dilute the product a bit.

Realistically who could we gain though?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Realistically who could we gain though?

Dayton and SLU.

[Uncle Rico]

Dayton and SLU.

Oh, boy

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Realistically who could we gain though?

I could see a scenario where any number of teams like BC, Syracuse, Louisville, Duke, Wake Forest, Pitt could be on the outside looking in and needing a new home. Some of those are obviously more likely than others. Depending on how else the landscape shifts, I could see a situation where a UConn type deal with the Big East is more profitable for those schools than merging with the AAC.

[tower912]

I could see a scenario where any number of teams like BC, Syracuse, Louisville, Duke, Wake Forest, Pitt could be on the outside looking in and needing a new home. Some of those are obviously more likely than others. Depending on how else the landscape shifts, I could see a situation where a UConn type deal with the Big East is more profitable for those schools than merging with the AAC.

Throw them in with UConn, Memphis, and Houston and you have a really good basketball conference.

[MU82]

Things change. Shouting at clouds doesn't stop things from changing.

That a coach could make $10M/year but an athlete couldn't sell a freakin' t-shirt with his own name, image or likeness on it was unfair, immoral and idiotic. Thank goodness that has changed.

The process to get to NIL has been extremely messy. I do hope that some actual rules that can benefit all participants get established eventually. I sure don't see how anybody who likes capitalism and freedom can be opposed to people making money off of their own names, images and likenesses.