More conference realignment talk

[DFW HOYA]

On a somewhat related note, Mount Union has 196 kids on their football roster.* That's damn near 10% of their students. Talk about using sports to drive revenue. Overall, more than 40% of the students at Mount Union participate in intercollegiate athletics.

*Go ahead and click on the link and take a look at that team picture. There are so many kids it looks ridiculous.

And 26 on the men's basketball team.

https://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/mbball/roster

[MarquetteMike1977]

https://twitter.com/patrick_reusse/status/1615938801968484354?s=42&t=7bGvqbfHJUzux1Zfg-MAbA

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[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

https://twitter.com/patrick_reusse/status/1615938801968484354?s=42&t=7bGvqbfHJUzux1Zfg-MAbA

Is there any truth to this tweet

Absolutely not. They are a mid-tier Summit League team that hasn't played in front of a crowd larger than 1,400 all year. A 5,000 seat, full time arena would be the smallest full time arena in the league, much smaller than SLU or Dayton, both of whom have shown they can win at the D1 level.

[Pepe Sylvia]

https://twitter.com/patrick_reusse/status/1615938801968484354?s=42&t=7bGvqbfHJUzux1Zfg-MAbA

Is there any truth to this tweet

Uh, no.

[tower912]

It is good to have a dream.

[WhiteTrash]

https://twitter.com/patrick_reusse/status/1615938801968484354?s=42&t=7bGvqbfHJUzux1Zfg-MAbA

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Sothern Illinois University has a better chance of getting into the SEC than this happening.

[jfp61]

https://twitter.com/patrick_reusse/status/1615938801968484354?s=42&t=7bGvqbfHJUzux1Zfg-MAbA

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The Big East could have its pick of the litter from the A10. It would not go for St. Thomas out of the Summit.

[muwarrior69]

Yeah these are good points. To compound this, why would the B12 expand to include them AFTER they announced their new media deal?

Why would the PAC 10/12 whatever, the Big 12 or even a merged PAC/ACC want Gonzaga? I thought all this realignment is about football. Do you really think the Big East Schools would even think of joining the B1G or the SEC or Big 12 after being treated like second class step siblings in the Old Big East? So where does Gonzaga go? The Big East has all the leverage when it comes to Gonzaga.

Also what happens when Few decides to go the Jay Wright route; we might just have a GU West like we havea GU East at the moment.

[dgies9156]

Southern Illinois University has a better chance of getting into winning the SEC in football than this happening.

There, fixed it for you!

[The Lens]

The Tommies are throwing around a lot of cash right now.  Anything is possible.  Plus they have that new car smell, not the stench that follows Dayton or SLU.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Why would the PAC 10/12 whatever, the Big 12 or even a merged PAC/ACC want Gonzaga? I thought all this realignment is about football. Do you really think the Big East Schools would even think of joining the B1G or the SEC or Big 12 after being treated like second class step siblings in the Old Big East? So where does Gonzaga go? The Big East has all the leverage when it comes to Gonzaga.

Also what happens when Few decides to go the Jay Wright route; we might just have a GU West like we havea GU East at the moment.

Georgetown would jump at an ACC invite IMO.

[Uncle Rico]

Georgetown would jump at an ACC invite IMO.

ACC is a Dead League walking

[Dickthedribbler]

The Tommies are throwing around a lot of cash right now.  Anything is possible.  Plus they have that new car smell, not the stench that follows Dayton or SLU.

They also seem to be throwing around a lot of bull chit right now, too.

[brewcity77]

https://twitter.com/patrick_reusse/status/1615938801968484354?s=42&t=7bGvqbfHJUzux1Zfg-MAbA

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They emulate the comedic stylings of Dayton fans.

[Shooter McGavin]

The Tommies are throwing around a lot of cash right now.  Anything is possible.  Plus they have that new car smell, not the stench that follows Dayton or SLU.

Where are they throwing it?  This seems like it would degrade the Big East brand.  Maybe after 30 years of D1 success with multiple NCAA tournament appearances and a few sporadic runs they could add something to the conference. 

[Dickthedribbler]

They emulate the comedic stylings of Dayton fans.

You are 100% correct, Brew. The first thing I thought of when I saw this was"Dayton".

[Mu8891]

Is St Thomas joining BE ?

LOLLLLLLLLLL … uh. No. 

Maybe in 2046.  At the earliest…

[GoldenEagles03]

Is St Thomas joining BE ?

LOLLLLLLLLLL … uh. No. 

Maybe in 2046.  At the earliest…

Can you have more than 1 Saint in a conference?

[The Lens]

I'm comfortable with this Expansion Power Ranking:

1) Gonzaga
2) St. Thomas
3) Not Expanding
4) Not Expanding
5) Not Expanding
6) Not Expanding
7) Not Expanding
8) Not Expanding
9) Dayton
10) SLU

[Uncle Rico]

I'm comfortable with this Expansion Power Ranking:

1) Gonzaga
2) St. Thomas
3) Not Expanding
4) Not Expanding
5) Not Expanding
6) Not Expanding
7) Not Expanding
8) Not Expanding
9) Dayton
10) SLU

St. Louis is too high

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Can you have more than 1 Saint in a conference?

Rules out SLU too.  I am in favor of this proposal.

[WhiteTrash]

I'm comfortable with this Expansion Power Ranking:

1) Gonzaga
2) St. Thomas
3) Not Expanding
4) Not Expanding
5) Not Expanding
6) Not Expanding
7) Not Expanding
8) Not Expanding
9) Dayton
10) SLU

Only if you meant St. Thomas, US Virgin Island.

[shoothoops]

There are some objective folks in this thread who are forward thinking.

There are a few folks in this thread clinging awfully tight to MUBB winning an NCAA Tourney game in 8 seasons of the past 40 or so years. And that’s with the MUBB advantage of being in the Big East for almost 20 of those years.

And there are some folks fighting personal demons.
……………………

Creighton won an NCAA Tourney game  3 seasons since the 1970’s prior to joining the Big East. Of course they have done it 3 times since, (MUBB zero) I don’t see much whining about Creighton in the Big East. This is really the best example here.

Thank goodness for former long time Midwest Collegiate Conference Xavier.

Providence has won a game in the NCAA Tourney in 4 seasons in the past 35 plus years.

Seton Hall has won an NCAA Tourney game in 3 seasons in the past 30 or so years.

St. John’s has won an NCAA Tourney game about 5 times in the past 35 years.

DePaul has made 2 or so NCAA tourney appearances in almost 30 years.

Georgetown has won an NCAA Tourney game in about 4 of the past 25 seasons.

………….

Perhaps a proposed MUBB conference can be:

MUBB
UNC
Duke
Kentucky
UCLA
Kansas

The conference can be called the Marquette Six.

[dgies9156]

Look, St. Thomas College is a small college with big ambition. My brother has a degree from there and its served him well in life.

But the Tommies have a long way to go before they reach the cache of most Big East teams. Marquette, DePaul, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence, Villanova, UConn and Butler all have Final Four or NCAA championships in their history. Granted, some of that history is ancient --very ancient in some cases -- but these are traditional basketball schools whose notoriety ebbs and flows over time.

St. Thomas always will be a cupcake that teams like Marquette play in early November.

Call me when they recruit a team of three stars and four stars. Or when the Minneapolis-St. Paul ADI does not include the University of Minnesota. Adding the Tommies to the Big East for the Twin Cities is like adding the Gary Railcats minor league baseball team to a league to "gain access" to the Chicago market.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

There are some objective folks in this thread who are forward thinking.

There are a few folks in this thread clinging awfully tight to MUBB winning an NCAA Tourney game in 8 seasons of the past 40 or so years. And that’s with the MUBB advantage of being in the Big East for almost 20 of those years.

And there are some folks fighting personal demons.
……………………

Creighton won an NCAA Tourney game  3 seasons since the 1970’s prior to joining the Big East. Of course they have done it 3 times since, (MUBB zero) I don’t see much whining about Creighton in the Big East. This is really the best example here.

Thank goodness for former long time Midwest Collegiate Conference Xavier.

Providence has won a game in the NCAA Tourney in 4 seasons in the past 35 plus years.

Seton Hall has won an NCAA Tourney game in 3 seasons in the past 30 or so years.

St. John’s has won an NCAA Tourney game about 5 times in the past 35 years.

DePaul has made 2 or so NCAA tourney appearances in almost 30 years.

Georgetown has won an NCAA Tourney game in about 4 of the past 25 seasons.

………….

Perhaps a proposed MUBB conference can be:

MUBB
UNC
Duke
Kentucky
UCLA
Kansas

The conference can be called the Marquette Six.

I'm sorry...what is your point exactly?

Butler and Xavier were obvious choices due to sustained performance over a decade plus. Creighton got the last invite because not only were they doing well on the basketball court, but were a top 10 program in terms of attendance, was a new market, and wasn't run by a moron like SLU was.

On another note, I personally don't understand the "personal demon" you fight as an apparent self-loathing Marquette alumnus who runs to the defense of a university you didn't attend anytime it is mentioned here.