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MSG happens
« on: March 09, 2017, 03:32:41 PM »
1.  Picked a bad day to have a terrible game shooting 3s.
2.  MU just does not match the Hall's physicality.
3.  Markus looked like a frosh at MSG.  He will be better next year.
4.  Luke going back in made my day.   He didn't look the same when he came back.
5.  The ball just did not move well today.  Maybe it was SH, maybe it was nerves.
6.  MU's defensive effort waned as the shots kept missing.  Solid early, progressively
worse.
7.  Delgado as facilitator.  Whoda thunk ?
8.  In the end,  physicality shows up every game.  Shooting doesn't.
9.  Gotta be smart enough to know to start fouling in a timely fashion .
10.  Should have gone small down the stretch with Katin in the game and no center.
11.  Nothing to do but wait until Sunday .
« Last Edit: March 09, 2017, 03:38:15 PM by tower912 »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 03:34:33 PM »
Is this the part where I overreact and say we should fire Wojo?

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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 03:36:15 PM »
Not if you have the brains god  gave a turnip.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 03:37:55 PM »
Is this the part where I overreact and say we should fire Wojo?
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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 03:39:55 PM »
Tough one. Hopefully an early exit will be extra motivation going into the tourney.

Hoping for a 10 seed in Indy so I can attend. Kinda depends how other teams do at this point? Not really sure.

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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 03:40:03 PM »
We gotta learn to win in MSG.

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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 03:40:21 PM »
Thought we moved the ball great at times in the first half, but didn't hit quite enough shots. As the game went on the ball stopped moving and guys tried to do it alone. At least a half dozen possessions in the 2nd half where one person touched the ball

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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2017, 03:41:43 PM »
I love our team, but damn do we need size. Thankfully next years guys are gonna help in that respect.

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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2017, 03:42:02 PM »
Hit the garbage time 3s to make our average lol

Hopefully this loss doesn't put us in Dayton. Hopefully it does give an 11 seed vs a soft 6.
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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2017, 03:43:19 PM »
Wilson was just brutal today.  Howard not far behind, but he will learn in time, Duane has no excuse, especially driving against 6ft 11 guys. Only one who showed up was Rowsey and Hauser, and for a time Luke.  Heldt was just destroyed today.  Delgado just a beast against us. 

MU shot 43% from three 13-30, but SH made their free throws down stretch by fouling Carrington (11 for 11) and Powell(6 for 6) not smart.

Katin, not really.  He had five turnovers (half of MU's 10) Play of game for me was MU down 7 with ball and he made just a terrible turnover and MU never recovered.

Hardly any JJJ in second half.

After Creighton win, everything else is gravy, so be it.   Just getting in tournament fine by me. 


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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2017, 03:43:37 PM »
12.  I've missed the haters lately.  It will be nice to hear from them again.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2017, 03:48:09 PM »
Hall didn't hit many threes, but they were hot when they did. 43% tonight, shoot 33% on the season.

Hall shot 96% on their FTs tonight, shoot 63% on the season.

Hall shot 44% from 2P range tonight. For them, that is bad. For us, that is great 2P defense.

Kept the TOs under control but stopped forcing them on Hall in the 2nd half.

Giving up 12 offensive boards to Hall? Actually not that bad.

Personally didn't like the double team on Delgado. I think him going mano y mano would have been less effective than the passes he was making out of the double team.

Reality is, Hall had a great shooting night. We had a terrible shooting night. That will happen. They shoot their normal % from the line, and we win by 1. They shoot their normal % from 3, we tie. They shoot normal % from both, we win with a solid lead.
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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2017, 03:48:25 PM »
We've lost 1/3 of our games at MSG this year.

This really decreases my interest in the remaining games before Selection Sunday. My girlfriend will be happy.

Just didn't play well today. Markus was off until the last 2 minutes when it was too late. Rowsey, Katin and Sam missed some wide open 3s we needed. Just not our night.

SHU is tough. They're a bad matchup for us. Really beat us up on the boards.

Luke, get that shoulder right. Really scared me, thought he was done for sure.

I'd almost welcome some disrespect; give me an 11 and a bye without Dayton. We don't deserve to be Dayton. I think we'll be a 10 at the end of the day.

Bummed. Really wanted another shot at Nova.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2017, 03:51:59 PM by JamilJaeJamailJrJuan »
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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2017, 03:49:20 PM »
Thought we moved the ball great at times in the first half, but didn't hit quite enough shots. As the game went on the ball stopped moving and guys tried to do it alone. At least a half dozen possessions in the 2nd half where one person touched the ball

Noticed the same thing. Good offense but no results in the first half. Bad offense but inexplicably some results in the second half.
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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2017, 03:51:22 PM »
At least it seems like Luke is gonna be fine. Really happy he was able to get back in the game some.

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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2017, 03:55:49 PM »
Tough one. Hopefully an early exit will be extra motivation going into the tourney.

Hoping for a 10 seed in Indy so I can attend. Kinda depends how other teams do at this point? Not really sure.

We are likely a 10 seed at the moment. This loss won't drop us at all, but it leaves the door open for other teams to pass us. Michigan State won so they will move ahead of us. Seton Hall will move ahead of us as well.

Teams to watch now are Providence, Xavier, USC, Vanderbilt, Rhode Island, Kansas State, Iowa, California, and Georgia. In my estimate, they are the only 8 teams that can move ahead of us. Will also need to watch bid thieves because they could steal at large spots make better teams play in Dayton.
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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2017, 03:57:01 PM »
Its nice when u get to hear the announcers talk about the other teams heart, toughness, will to win, and energy for the last 10 minutes of a game.  Announcers used to talk about Marquette that way.

Will be sooo glad to never watch our seniors step on the court again.  Softest class i have ever had the displeasure of witnessing.  Mental and physical weakness
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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2017, 04:11:01 PM »
We've lost 1/3 of our games at MSG this year

Aren't we 0-4? Michigan, Pitt, St. John's, and now the Hall.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2017, 04:13:06 PM »
Aren't we 0-4? Michigan, Pitt, St. John's, and now the Hall.

Yes. Perhaps poorly worded. 1/3 of our losses (4 of 12) were at MSG this season.
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Re: MSG sucks thoughts
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2017, 04:42:38 PM »
Not if you have the brains god  gave a turnip.

Have to agree with you.

There were games earlier in the season where there were questions about this team but not recently and not in this game. They fought hard, they tried but the shots were not dropping against a physical team. This happens to 3 point shooting teams. I was proud of our men. They deserve to make the Dance and look forward to further progress. Keep the faith on Sunday. This team is a true positive turning point in our program and for that and their heart I thank them.
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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2017, 04:51:56 PM »
Just for the record, that post was teal all the way.

I'm high on Wojo and I like the direction we're going as a program.

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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2017, 04:54:17 PM »
Fair enough.   In the moment, with so many unhappy people around, it is sometimes difficult to differentiate. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2017, 05:00:16 PM »
Hopefully Luke gets good for the tourney

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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2017, 05:05:22 PM »
Hall didn't hit many threes, but they were hot when they did. 43% tonight, shoot 33% on the season.

Hall shot 96% on their FTs tonight, shoot 63% on the season.

Hall shot 44% from 2P range tonight. For them, that is bad. For us, that is great 2P defense.

Kept the TOs under control but stopped forcing them on Hall in the 2nd half.

Giving up 12 offensive boards to Hall? Actually not that bad.

Personally didn't like the double team on Delgado. I think him going mano y mano would have been less effective than the passes he was making out of the double team.

Reality is, Hall had a great shooting night. We had a terrible shooting night. That will happen. They shoot their normal % from the line, and we win by 1. They shoot their normal % from 3, we tie. They shoot normal % from both, we win with a solid lead.

Free throws no matta.    ::)
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: MSG happens
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2017, 05:10:43 PM »
Yes. Perhaps poorly worded. 1/3 of our losses (4 of 12) were at MSG this season.

Gotcha. That's wild.
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