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ESPN Bubble Watch
« on: February 02, 2016, 11:06:30 AM »
Marquette not even listed as on the bubble here, and they're included as a "bad loss" to the rodents along with Milwaukee and Western Illinois.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 11:13:17 AM »
Happens when your RPI is above 100.
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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 11:15:20 AM »
Marquette not even listed as on the bubble here, and they're included as a "bad loss" to the rodents along with Milwaukee and Western Illinois.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch

only time and wins will cure this.

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 11:17:22 AM »
Happens when your RPI is above 100.
Ludicrous.

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 11:28:19 AM »
Marquette not even listed as on the bubble here, and they're included as a "bad loss" to the rodents along with Milwaukee and Western Illinois.

http://espn.go.com/ncb/bubblewatch

Actually, they referred to the loss as a "lowlight," which is entirely accurate when a team with tourney aspirations loses at home to a team with a worse RPI than Grand Canyon.

MU is not listed because they're not a bubble team. 15-7, RPI: 106, 1 top 50 win, 2 losses to RPI 100+ teams. That's not bubble territory.


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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 11:34:04 AM »
Actually, they referred to the loss as a "lowlight," which is entirely accurate when a team with tourney aspirations loses at home to a team with a worse RPI than Grand Canyon.

MU is not listed because they're not a bubble team. 15-7, RPI: 106, 1 top 50 win, 2 losses to RPI 100+ teams. That's not bubble territory.

I am hoping the NIT will accept lowlights.

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 11:53:07 AM »
only time and wins will cure this.

Win both games this week and we're on next week's list and stop being a low light for Bucky.

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2016, 11:59:03 AM »
Actually, they referred to the loss as a "lowlight," which is entirely accurate when a team with tourney aspirations loses at home to a team with a worse RPI than Grand Canyon.

MU is not listed because they're not a bubble team. 15-7, RPI: 106, 1 top 50 win, 2 losses to RPI 100+ teams. That's not bubble territory.

Any idea what our RPI would be if Billy Garret (Depaul) missed that shot?  We would be 16-6 and 5-4 on the BE

(I'm trying to gauge how much that loss hurt)

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2016, 12:21:36 PM »
RPI:

#52 Stony Brook / 17-4
#58 Davidson / 12-7
#60 St Bonaventure / 13-6
#63 Tulsa / 14-7
#64 Princenton / 12-5
#65 Akron / 17-4
#68 Hofstra / 16-6
#72 UC Irvine / 17-6
#77 Evansville / 18-5
#78 IPFW / 18-6
#79 Middle Tennessee State / 15-6
#80 Wake Forest / 10-11
#84 Kent State / 15-6
#85 Yale / 13-5
#87 Boise State / 15-7
#89 Long Beach State / 11-12
#90 Siena / 15-8
#91 Duquense / 15-7
#92 UNCW / 16-5
#93 Ohio / 13-7
#95 College of Charleston / 13-8
#96 Peperdine / 14-8
#97 UC Santa Barbara / 9-11
#98 James Madison / 16-7
#99 Grand Canyon / 19-3
#100 Buffalo / 12-9
#108 Auburn / 9-11

#110 Marquette / 15-7

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2016, 12:30:21 PM »
Any idea what our RPI would be if Billy Garret (Depaul) missed that shot?  We would be 16-6 and 5-4 on the BE

(I'm trying to gauge how much that loss hurt)

MU would move up to 101.


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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2016, 12:32:31 PM »
RPI:

#52 Stony Brook / 17-4
#58 Davidson / 12-7
#60 St Bonaventure / 13-6
#63 Tulsa / 14-7
#64 Princenton / 12-5
#65 Akron / 17-4
#68 Hofstra / 16-6
#72 UC Irvine / 17-6
#77 Evansville / 18-5
#78 IPFW / 18-6
#79 Middle Tennessee State / 15-6
#80 Wake Forest / 10-11
#84 Kent State / 15-6
#85 Yale / 13-5
#87 Boise State / 15-7
#89 Long Beach State / 11-12
#90 Siena / 15-8
#91 Duquense / 15-7
#92 UNCW / 16-5
#93 Ohio / 13-7
#95 College of Charleston / 13-8
#96 Peperdine / 14-8
#97 UC Santa Barbara / 9-11
#98 James Madison / 16-7
#99 Grand Canyon / 19-3
#100 Buffalo / 12-9
#108 Auburn / 9-11

#110 Marquette / 15-7
Thank you for the illustration. RPI is stupid. A team with a losing record is ahead of us.

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2016, 12:32:56 PM »
I think too much attention is paid to RPI. It is a factor but not the only factor.  That said we have 9 more league games plus the tournament. So lets see where we stand after all of that. Compare our body of work to the rest of the teams at the end of the season. Doing it now is comparing apples to oranges.
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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2016, 12:33:11 PM »
RPI:

#52 Stony Brook / 17-4
#58 Davidson / 12-7
#60 St Bonaventure / 13-6
#63 Tulsa / 14-7
#64 Princenton / 12-5
#65 Akron / 17-4
#68 Hofstra / 16-6
#72 UC Irvine / 17-6
#77 Evansville / 18-5
#78 IPFW / 18-6
#79 Middle Tennessee State / 15-6
#80 Wake Forest / 10-11
#84 Kent State / 15-6
#85 Yale / 13-5
#87 Boise State / 15-7
#89 Long Beach State / 11-12
#90 Siena / 15-8
#91 Duquense / 15-7
#92 UNCW / 16-5
#93 Ohio / 13-7
#95 College of Charleston / 13-8
#96 Peperdine / 14-8
#97 UC Santa Barbara / 9-11
#98 James Madison / 16-7
#99 Grand Canyon / 19-3
#100 Buffalo / 12-9
#108 Auburn / 9-11

#110 Marquette / 15-7

That's what happens when you schedule a bunch of 300+ teams. RPI might to be around 75 to get in the NIT, so even that's looking like a stretch.

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2016, 12:35:35 PM »
Love the fact that Princeton is spelled wrong...
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RPI:

#52 Stony Brook / 17-4
#58 Davidson / 12-7
#60 St Bonaventure / 13-6
#63 Tulsa / 14-7
#64 Princenton / 12-5
#65 Akron / 17-4
#68 Hofstra / 16-6
#72 UC Irvine / 17-6
#77 Evansville / 18-5
#78 IPFW / 18-6
#79 Middle Tennessee State / 15-6
#80 Wake Forest / 10-11
#84 Kent State / 15-6
#85 Yale / 13-5
#87 Boise State / 15-7
#89 Long Beach State / 11-12
#90 Siena / 15-8
#91 Duquense / 15-7
#92 UNCW / 16-5
#93 Ohio / 13-7
#95 College of Charleston / 13-8
#96 Peperdine / 14-8
#97 UC Santa Barbara / 9-11
#98 James Madison / 16-7
#99 Grand Canyon / 19-3
#100 Buffalo / 12-9
#108 Auburn / 9-11

#110 Marquette / 15-7

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2016, 12:37:26 PM »
Love the fact that Princeton is spelled wrong...
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I typed this on mobile at break. My apologies sir, was in a rush

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2016, 12:43:52 PM »
At this point, we're probably on the NIT bubble.

As others have said, we can change this with some big wins.

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2016, 12:54:45 PM »
Thank you for the illustration. RPI is stupid. A team with a losing record is ahead of us.

Auburn's SOS is 16 and Non-conf SOS 14. Marquette's is 149 and Non-conf 287.


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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2016, 01:02:16 PM »
I think too much attention is paid to RPI. It is a factor but not the only factor.

For those curious, here are all of the factors considered:

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/mens-basketball-selections-101-selections

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2016, 01:09:05 PM »
Thank you for the illustration. RPI is stupid. A team with a losing record is ahead of us.

The RPI is basically saying if MU played that same schedule Auburn did, we would have done worse.  That is one reason why they have stronger RPI then we do.

Long Beach State, Tennessee have losing records, both are ranked higher than us in Ken Pom

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2016, 01:12:03 PM »
Auburn's SOS is 16 and Non-conf SOS 14. Marquette's is 149 and Non-conf 287.

I don't think the point was Auburn as much as Long Beach st.
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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2016, 01:13:15 PM »
At this point, we're probably on the NIT bubble.

As others have said, we can change this with some big wins.

Yep. We can move from the NIT bubble to the NIT "likely in".

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2016, 01:16:23 PM »
I don't think the point was Auburn as much as Long Beach st.

Long Beach State
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Non-Conf: 1
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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2016, 01:19:36 PM »
Grand Canyon!!!

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2016, 01:20:29 PM »
The RPI is basically saying if MU played that same schedule Auburn did, we would have done worse.  That is one reason why they have stronger RPI then we do.
Which we know is BS.

Look at their RPI breakdown compared to ours:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/AUBURN/auburn-tigers

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/rpi/MARQET/marquette-golden-eagles

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Re: ESPN Bubble Watch
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2016, 01:21:42 PM »
So we shoulda hired Pearl, ai na?
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