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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MU82 on March 19, 2024, 07:31:52 AM
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I'll get this started with the stat of the day (courtesy of Yahoo Sports):
There are two D1 basketball players (whose teams both happen to be in the NCAAT) with at least 175 rebounds, 175 assists and 50 steals this season. Their names? Braden Smith (Purdue) and Braeden Smith (Colgate).
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Heres a few upsets that I believe will happen. Which means mortgage everything you have and do the exact opposite of what I am writing.
Vermont over Duke
I've been the biggest Duke hater this year. I believe the ACC is the most overrated conference in all of basketball. This is the 3rd straight year Vermont has made the tournament and with a senior led team I believe they pull the upset.
New Mexico over Clemson
Similar to the above post about the ACC. I believe New Mexico is the strongest team out of the Mountain West and was severely under seeded as was the whole conference.
McNeese over Gonzaga
I have no evidence on why I feel this upset will happen other than I feel Gonzaga was a bubble team and the tournament committee rewarded them with a perfect 12v5 upset.
Oregon over South Carolina
I think Oregon athleticism will frustrate South Carolina and Oregon will win by double digits.
I also believe Samford could beat Kansas depending on who plays. If dick hunter is playing I believe Kansas was easily. If he is out I believe Samford will win the game.
I don't believe we will see any 1/2/3 seeds go down to 14/15/16 seeds this year. I think to many mid majors that weren't supposed to win their conference tournaments won and got the 14/15/16 seeds meaning there overall records are substantially weaker than in years past. If I had to pick one top 3 seed that I think has the greatest chance to be upset I would pick Baylor losing to Colgate.
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Thanks for firing this thread up bright and early MU82.
I predict the Marquette Golden Eagles will win the NCAA Title.
Look out for that team, One Shining Moment.
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The tournament is doomed. You don't cross the Big East.
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The tournament is doomed. You don't cross the Big East.
A 3 team Big East final four would be Oso sweet.
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Decided to watch "Survive and Advance" last night (the Jimmy V Documentary on NC State's Miracle run) and safe to say I am ready to run through a brick wall for Shaka.
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Heres a few upsets that I believe will happen. Which means mortgage everything you have and do the exact opposite of what I am writing.
Vermont over Duke
I've been the biggest Duke hater this year. I believe the ACC is the most overrated conference in all of basketball. This is the 3rd straight year Vermont has made the tournament and with a senior led team I believe they pull the upset.
New Mexico over Clemson
Similar to the above post about the ACC. I believe New Mexico is the strongest team out of the Mountain West and was severely under seeded as was the whole conference.
McNeese over Gonzaga
I have no evidence on why I feel this upset will happen other than I feel Gonzaga was a bubble team and the tournament committee rewarded them with a perfect 12v5 upset.
Oregon over South Carolina
I think Oregon athleticism will frustrate South Carolina and Oregon will win by double digits.
I also believe Samford could beat Kansas depending on who plays. If dick hunter is playing I believe Kansas was easily. If he is out I believe Samford will win the game.
I don't believe we will see any 1/2/3 seeds go down to 14/15/16 seeds this year. I think to many mid majors that weren't supposed to win their conference tournaments won and got the 14/15/16 seeds meaning there overall records are substantially weaker than in years past. If I had to pick one top 3 seed that I think has the greatest chance to be upset I would pick Baylor losing to Colgate.
I've got Vermont over Duke also. I went to a UVM game in late February as my daughter is a student. They have a player who is a great 3 pt shooter. He was like 6-7 from 3 in the game. If he's open it seemed automatic. I was surprised he missed the 1 shot.
I have McNeese winning also.
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Thanks for firing this thread up bright and early MU82.
I predict the Marquette Golden Eagles will win the NCAA Title.
Look out for that team, One Shining Moment.
I have filled out (and will only fill out) one bracket, and it has Marquette winning the national title. I also bet $100 on our team to do just that.
It was heartening (I think) to see that The Athletics' C.J. Moore, whom I think knows his stuff, pick Marquette to reach the Final Four. His other picks: Purdue, UConn and Alabama.
He does slip up and pick Purdue to beat us in the FF, and then to lose to UConn in the title game.
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I'll get this started with the stat of the day (courtesy of Yahoo Sports):
There are two D1 basketball players (whose teams both happen to be in the NCAAT) with at least 175 rebounds, 175 assists and 50 steals this season. Their names? Braden Smith (Purdue) and Braeden Smith (Colgate).
I call and raise:
The University of Wisconsin is located in a city named after James Madison. Their first round opponent is James Madison University.
If that wasn't enough, James Madison University's mascot is the Dukes. They could have a potential second round matchup with, you guessed it, Duke.
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I have filled out (and will only fill out) one bracket, and it has Marquette winning the national title. I also bet $100 on our team to do just that.
It was heartening (I think) to see that The Athletics' C.J. Moore, whom I think knows his stuff, pick Marquette to reach the Final Four. His other picks: Purdue, UConn and Alabama.
He does slip up and pick Purdue to beat us in the FF, and then to lose to UConn in the title game.
I'm glad to see someone who "knows his stuff" pick Marquette for the FF. There is no shortage of "experts" who are at best lukewarm about Marquette based upon our late season problems. Several do not bother to even mention Kolek's absence, as if that was a minor factor. :D Classic case of not doing your homework.
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I'm glad to see someone who "knows his stuff" pick Marquette for the FF. There is no shortage of "experts" who are at best lukewarm about Marquette based upon our late season problems. Several do not bother to even mention Kolek's absence, as if that was a minor factor. :D Classic case of not doing your homework.
Part of it is that Shaka has gotten himself a reputation for early flights home.
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And part of it is herd mentality. The herd is on the Kentucky bandwagon this year. Which is fine. And nothing new. We will see Kentucky in the sweet 16, assuming the Wildcats make it that far.
Herd mentality also thinks Tennessee wins a rematch with Purdue. That Arizona beats UNC. That Auburn can beat UConn. They want to make trendy picks and not just go chalk. No worries. They have to fill time and get clicks.
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Decided to watch "Survive and Advance" last night (the Jimmy V Documentary on NC State's Miracle run) and safe to say I am ready to run through a brick wall for Shaka.
What platform?
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I've got Vermont over Duke also. I went to a UVM game in late February as my daughter is a student. They have a player who is a great 3 pt shooter. He was like 6-7 from 3 in the game. If he's open it seemed automatic. I was surprised he missed the 1 shot.
I have McNeese winning also.
I think I’m missing on the Duke hate.
I’ve got a strange feeling that they eliminate Houston and hopefully meet Marquette for a trip to the Final 4…
Maybe it’s more of a hope than a feeling, but I’d say that team is pretty good.
No one is talking about them, no one is picking them, and they are loaded with talent. They’ve sort of slid under the radar as much as a top 15 team can, a lot like Marquette.
They has elite talent, good shooting, size, etc.
Biggest downside, by far IMO is that Scheyer, like his predecessor, literally plays 0 guys off the bench.
He gives those 5 starters damn near 35-40 minutes in big games.
It’s insane to not sure your bench at all imo, but that’s how he learned.
So, I’m not sold on him, but it’s hard to not be sold on the talent this year and beyond.
Anyway, they sort of remind me a bit of the Baylor squad that won me a ton of money several years back, both in brackets and with bets.
They were top 5 all season, then lost a few games late and no one picked them to win anything.
I picked em to win it all and took them in every game, one of my most fruitful tournaments betting/prediction wise.
Completely different teams, similar concept.
For good or bad they are in Marquettes bracket so I’ve got to stop them short before the FF, but I’m hopeful/confident they take out Bucky and Houston, as needed.
I like the idea of Marquette seeing a team that runs out 5 guys in the EE
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I think I’m missing on the Duke hate.
I’ve got a strange feeling that they eliminate Houston and hopefully meet Marquette for a trip to the Final 4…
Maybe it’s more of a hope than a feeling, but I’d say that team is pretty good.
No one is talking about them, no one is picking them, and they are loaded with talent. They’ve sort of slid under the radar as much as a top 15 team can, a lot like Marquette.
They has elite talent, good shooting, size, etc.
Biggest downside, by far IMO is that Scheyer, like his predecessor, literally plays 0 guys off the bench.
He gives those 5 starters damn near 35-40 minutes in big games.
It’s insane to not sure your bench at all imo, but that’s how he learned.
So, I’m not sold on him, but it’s hard to not be sold on the talent this year and beyond.
Anyway, they sort of remind me a bit of the Baylor squad that won me a ton of money several years back, both in brackets and with bets.
They were top 5 all season, then lost a few games late and no one picked them to win anything.
I picked em to win it all and took them in every game, one of my most fruitful tournaments betting/prediction wise.
Completely different teams, similar concept.
For good or bad they are in Marquettes bracket so I’ve got to stop them short before the FF, but I’m hopeful/confident they take out Bucky and Houston, as needed.
I like the idea of Marquette seeing a team that runs out 5 guys in the EE
Duke is definitely good enough to make the Elite 8. Just not sure what to expect from them because of the UNC sweep of them and then the no-show at the ACC
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There seems to be a widely-held belief that Virginia didn't belong in the field and that the Mountain West teams were under-seeded. If only there was a way to test that theory -- say at about 9:10 tonight.
I really hope Colorado State crushes UVa.
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There seems to be a widely-held belief that Virginia didn't belong in the field and that the Mountain West teams were under-seeded. If only there was a way to test that theory -- say at about 9:10 tonight.
I really hope Colorado State crushes UVa.
I live about an hour from C'ville and usually support UVA bball because they're local, and especially around C'ville friends of course, even though I find it really boring bball. But tonight? Crush 'em!
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There seems to be a widely-held belief that Virginia didn't belong in the field and that the Mountain West teams were under-seeded. If only there was a way to test that theory -- say at about 9:10 tonight.
I really hope Colorado State crushes UVa.
Virginia making a run to the Sweet 16 with a lot of “I told you so’s” feels sickeningly possible.
Colorado State is a fun team. Niko Medved getting a showcase game is worth the viewing. Hoping they kill Virginia
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And part of it is herd mentality. The herd is on the Kentucky bandwagon this year. Which is fine. And nothing new. We will see Kentucky in the sweet 16, assuming the Wildcats make it that far.
Herd mentality also thinks Tennessee wins a rematch with Purdue. That Arizona beats UNC. That Auburn can beat UConn. They want to make trendy picks and not just go chalk. No worries. They have to fill time and get clicks.
I welcome the idea of a S16 with Kentucky, partly because it likely means a great PnR highlight reel for Oso. But, again, one game at a time.
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Virginia making a run to the Sweet 16 with a lot of “I told you so’s” feels sickeningly possible.
Colorado State is a fun team. Niko Medved getting a showcase game is worth the viewing. Hoping they kill Virginia
Virginia could win the NC and it wouldn't change my stance on them. They don't belong. Also, if Colorado State loses in the first game, I would not say that proves they shouldn't have been selected. If teams were selected based upon ability to win games and not overall resume, St. Johns would be in.
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What platform?
It's on ESPN+ (I pay for the bundle, I don't recommend it lol)
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Virginia making a run to the Sweet 16 with a lot of “I told you so’s” feels sickeningly possible.
Colorado State is a fun team. Niko Medved getting a showcase game is worth the viewing. Hoping they kill Virginia
Time for Medved to come back to Minnesota!
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I welcome the idea of a S16 with Kentucky, partly because it likely means a great PnR highlight reel for Oso. But, again, one game at a time.
I welcome the idea of a S16 against anybody, because it means we've made the S16. Once you get there, your opponents are supposed to be very good.
But yes, as you say, it could be a heck of a game for Oso and TK, and a high-scoring, entertaining game in general.
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According to Matt Norlander, Shaka’s favorite musical artist is Tupac.
There goes a chunk of the fanbase. SMDH
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According to Matt Norlander, Shaka’s favorite musical artist is Tupac.
There goes a chunk of the fanbase. SMDH
Here's the link (https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1770140895834202172?s=20).
Some interesting stuff here for opposing fans. Taylor Swift...really? And Izzo...I like the Jackson 5 as much as the next guy...but apparently not as much as Izzo. That's seriously your favorite music? When you're alone in your office late into the night, you're jamming to ABC?
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According to Matt Norlander, Shaka’s favorite musical artist is Tupac.
There goes a chunk of the fanbase. SMDH
One of my many interesting experiences at MU… 2pac’s ppl pulling guns on stage at the MECCA. Didn’t know I could run so fast.
https://2paclegacy.net/tupac-was-out-of-control-at-mecca-arena-in-milwaukee/
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Here's the link (https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/1770140895834202172?s=20).
Some interesting stuff here for opposing fans. Taylor Swift...really? And Izzo...I like the Jackson 5 as much as the next guy...but apparently not as much as Izzo. That's seriously your favorite music? When you're alone in your office late into the night, you're jamming to ABC?
This will help me fill out my brackets instead of uniform color, mascots or coin flip
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McCullar out for the whole tournament. Self duped the committee.
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I'm rooting for Colorado St.
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I’ll bet Virginia won’t hit 50 points tonight
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Let’s go Rams
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Is something wrong with the Scoop website? I'm having a few probs.
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Is something wrong with the Scoop website? I'm having a few probs.
Restart your computer gramps ;D
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What kind of masochist enjoys watching Virginia basketball?
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Good thing MU turned down Tony Bennett a few years ago.
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What kind of masochist enjoys watching Virginia basketball?
Took a break and watched Welcome to Wrexham. Way better.
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What kind of masochist enjoys watching Virginia basketball?
This might convince the NCAA committee that if UVA is on the bubble, the answer is an emphatic no.
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Man, Bennett has to get a better offensive coordinator than Brian Ferentz.
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Virginia would have been lucky to get a nit invite. This is just pathetic.
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Yeah there needs to be a change to the process. This is just a slap in the face to everyone
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Bennett retiring?
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UVA on pace for an 10 pt 2H.
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This is a FARCE …
UVA down 37 to 16 !! In the 2d half …
Tony Bennet = offensive guru
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UVA on a 2-0 run.
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This is a FARCE …
UVA down 37 to 16 !! In the 2d half …
Tony Bennet = offensive guru
The funny thing is there was a stretch in the first half around the 10 min mark that a player on Virginia hit 2 three and a layup in about a min worth of game time. You take that out and they have 6 points in 23 minutes.
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The committee’s biggest gaffe is getting validated pretty quickly here.
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The funny thing is there was a stretch in the first half around the 10 min mark that a player on Virginia hit 2 three and a layup in about a min worth of game time. You take that out and they have 6 points in 23 minutes.
That's astonishing.
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What an awful year for Andrew Rohde. What happened?
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What an awful year for Andrew Rohde. What happened?
Went to a team that doesnt coach offense
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I think Gonzaga makes the elite 8, but McNeese might be a tough test.
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I seriously think that was the first 3-second call I've seen all season. And I'm talking about at all levels: NBA, college, high school and middle school!
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Virginia is on fire! They have already netted 17 in the 2H.
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Leon Bond. 0 minutes.
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Nothing like getting boat raced by a team that looks awfully mediocre.
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Good to see Coach K still enjoying what he does best.
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Virginia at least eliminated any doubt about whether they belonged. Good to have certainty.
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Not even joking, that was a really enjoyable watch.
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John Fanta
@John_Fanta
Virginia lost six of its final 10 games of the season. They lost those games by an average of 19 points, including three games by at least 25.
Their season ended with a 25-point loss — in the NCAA Tournament! — to a team that was the 7 seed in the Mountain West Tournament.
8:44 PM · Mar 19, 2024
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I seriously think that was the first 3-second call I've seen all season. And I'm talking about at all levels: NBA, college, high school and middle school!
When you're watching paint dry (the offense of Virginia), you gotta do something to keep you occupied.
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Kevin m out for Kansas. Entire tourney. Hope we don’t see the same for our guy
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John Fanta
@John_Fanta
Virginia lost six of its final 10 games of the season. They lost those games by an average of 19 points, including three games by at least 25.
Their season ended with a 25-point loss — in the NCAA Tournament! — to a team that was the 7 seed in the Mountain West Tournament.
8:44 PM · Mar 19, 2024
Don't understand why Virginia was in and St. Johns out. Thought St. Johns had the better resume, and think they would have won that game.
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Kevin m out for Kansas. Entire tourney. Hope we don’t see the same for our guy
Did he have the same injury?
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That's astonishing.
14 minute stretch without scoring a single point.
But its not like the BE's NIT showing suggests any of them belonged. Woof
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Don't understand why Virginia was in and St. Johns out. Thought St. Johns had the better resume, and think they would have won that game.
The committee had Seton Hall above St John’s.
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Don't understand why Virginia was in and St. Johns out. Thought St. Johns had the better resume, and think they would have won that game.
The committee had Seton Hall above St John’s.
Not to mention Oklahoma, Indiana State, and Pitt.
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14 minute stretch without scoring a single point.
But its not like the BE's NIT showing suggests any of them belonged. Woof
Carter didn't play for Prov. I honestly don't believe the BEast teams that were left out had a strong case. Indiana St. is the team I think most people would have liked to see in. All that said I do think Virginia embarrassed themselves and 5/6 MWC teams were underseeded. It's absurd 2 of those teams are/were in play-im games.
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Carter didn't play for Prov. I honestly don't believe the BEast teams that were left out had a strong case. Indiana St. is the team I think most people would have liked to see in. All that said I do think Virginia embarrassed themselves and 5/6 MWC teams were underseeded. It's absurd 2 of those teams are/were in play-im games.
Sam Hauser killed the Virginia program. Very sad
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Sam Hauser killed the Virginia program. Very sad
Why is it sad? What's happening in 🇭🇹 is sad.
No one outside of Charlottesville seems to care much.
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Took a break and watched Welcome to Wrexham. Way better.
Probably more scoring too!
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Carter didn't play for Prov. I honestly don't believe the BEast teams that were left out had a strong case. Indiana St. is the team I think most people would have liked to see in. All that said I do think Virginia embarrassed themselves and 5/6 MWC teams were underseeded. It's absurd 2 of those teams are/were in play-im games.
Yeah - the NIT has some real problems with teams and players declining to play. That said, still not a great look to lose two home games and a game to a team that was 6-12 in the SEC. The Hall and Nova better show up tonight.
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Who knows how engaged these players are. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
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The committee had Seton Hall above St John’s.
Yeah, well considering they put Virginia in, that isn't terribly surprising.
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Why is it sad? What's happening in 🇭🇹 is sad.
No one outside of Charlottesville seems to care much.
The very sad was said without much seriousness.
It is a tough break for fellow Wisconsin alum seeing one of their own lose like that. Tony Bennett’s time at Wisconsin shaped him into the coach he is
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Yeah - the NIT has some real problems with teams and players declining to play. That said, still not a great look to lose two home games and a game to a team that was 6-12 in the SEC. The Hall and Nova better show up tonight.
True. I'll be rooting for Boise St tonight but most seem to think Colorado is the better team.
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The very sad was said without much seriousness.
It is a tough break for fellow Wisconsin alum seeing one of their own lose like that. Tony Bennett’s time at Wisconsin shaped him into the coach he is
They're probably struggling with recruiting and NIL.
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They're probably struggling with recruiting and NIL.
2023 - 20th best class
2022 - 14th best class
I think they're doing alright.
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I looked up Leon Bond, who Shaka lost out on to UVa right after he got here. He hardly played after redshirting last year, but amazingly had played nearly 300 minutes this year and only had 2 3PA.
How is that even possible for a guard in college basketball today?
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2023 - 20th best class
2022 - 14th best class
I think they're doing alright.
Then the class evaluations may not be particularly good? I dunno.
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Then the class evaluations may not be particularly good? I dunno.
Not sure Bennett’s style is doing him many favors.
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True. I'll be rooting for Boise St tonight but most seem to think Colorado is the better team.
Also heard multiple analysts say that MU would be a nightmare matchup for Boise St. Something along the lines of barbecue chicken. I think we want them to take out Colorado tonight.
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Not sure Bennett’s style is doing him many favors.
This is probably it.
I looked up Leon Bond, who Shaka lost out on to UVa right after he got here. He hardly played after redshirting last year, but amazingly had played nearly 300 minutes this year and only had 2 3PA.
How is that even possible for a guard in college basketball today?
That's crazy. 60th (whatever rankings you want to choose from) ranked player on 247 and he can't find the floor on a middling team.
None of those 2021-2022 guys are doing much. Leon, Seth Trimble at UNC... even Pat Baldwin Jr is pretty bad on the worst team in the NBA... and has been sent down a couple of times already.
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I looked up Leon Bond, who Shaka lost out on to UVa right after he got here. He hardly played after redshirting last year, but amazingly had played nearly 300 minutes this year and only had 2 3PA.
How is that even possible for a guard in college basketball today?
Based on last night’s game, it appears Bennett is bucking the modern trend and instead he’s building his offense around the mid-range jump shot.
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Also heard multiple analysts say that MU would be a nightmare matchup for Boise St. Something along the lines of barbecue chicken. I think we want them to take out Colorado tonight.
Florida is clearly the most dangerous of the rd of 32 opponents. Assuming we dispose of the Hilltopers. That said we are in prime position to make a deep run. Hopefully Tyko is alright and we play at our A level. Other guys got more experience in the BET. The time is NOW to go medieval and take no prisoners. Seize this opportunity. We all saw how this team eviscerated a good Prov team about a month ago at full strength. 27-4 out of the gates with buckets and attacks all over the place. This is who we are, with Tyko leading the charge. It's time to go to work, period. LFG!!!
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This is probably it.
That's crazy. 60th (whatever rankings you want to choose from) ranked player on 247 and he can't find the floor on a middling team.
None of those 2021-2022 guys are doing much. Leon, Seth Trimble at UNC... even Pat Baldwin Jr is pretty bad on the worst team in the NBA... and has been sent down a couple of times already.
A great reminder that, while recruiting rankings are fun to follow, their accuracy can be hit or miss. Chase Ross turned out to be a much better player than a higher rated Leon Bond.
Similarly, when Shaka was hired many Scoopers were hoping Tamar Bates would follow Shaka. Myself included. Bates has been decent but he's no Kam Jones.
We can even point to Dawson Garcia vs Oso. I was stoked when Garcia committed but he'll barely be remembered as playing for Marquette. But Oso is going to leave a lasting impression at Marquette. Hopefully, there's a lot more Oso story to tell from the upcoming weeks.
I could go on and on. Haven't even mentioned Kolek yet. He went from unranked to 2× AA, 2× All BE, BEPOY, and BETMOP.
I'm starting to ramble, so I'll wrap it up. I'll finish by saying, I love following recruiting because of the stories. Seeing how players are perceived in HS and then seeing how their college careers play out is totally fascinating to me.
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Florida is clearly the most dangerous of the rd of 32 opponents. Assuming we dispose of the Hilltopers. That said we are in prime position to make a deep run. Hopefully Tyko is alright and we play at our A level. Other guys got more experience in the BET. The time is NOW to go medieval and take no prisoners. Seize this opportunity. We all saw how this team eviscerated a good Prov team about a month ago at full strength. 27-4 out of the gates with buckets and attacks all over the place. This is who we are, with Tyko leading the charge. It's time to go to work, period. LFG!!!
You forgot "One for all and all for one" and "Let's win one for the Gipper."
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A great reminder that, while recruiting rankings are fun to follow, their accuracy can be hit or miss. Chase Ross turned out to be a much better player than a higher rated Leon Bond.
Similarly, when Shaka was hired many Scoopers were hoping Tamar Bates would follow Shaka. Myself included. Bates has been decent but he's no Kam Jones.
We can even point to Dawson Garcia vs Oso. I was stoked when Garcia committed but he'll barely be remembered as playing for Marquette. But Oso is going to leave a lasting impression at Marquette. Hopefully, there's a lot more Oso story to tell from the upcoming weeks.
I could go on and on. Haven't even mentioned Kolek yet. He went from unranked to 2× AA, 2× All BE, BEPOY, and BETMOP.
I'm starting to ramble, so I'll wrap it up. I'll finish by saying, I love following recruiting because of the stories. Seeing how players are perceived in HS and then seeing how their college careers play out is totally fascinating to me.
Coaching > recruiting
Unless the guys are 1 and dones, usually.
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The Athletic posted an article (Brendan Marks and Kyle Tucker) about the 12 teams with realistic chance to win the NCAA. Guess which team didn't make the list?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FB5qbILiEhiFKzm/giphy.gif)
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I have been quickly reading through the tons of predictions by alleged experts (I know, some actually are, but...) and there is no shortage of people predicting an early exit for Marquette, including a loss vs. WK. At least 2 have already decided that Florida will win its matchup even before tonight's opponent is decided, and predict that Florida will take us down if we get past WK.
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The Athletic posted an article (Brendan Marks and Kyle Tucker) about the 12 teams with realistic chance to win the NCAA. Guess which team didn't make the list?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FB5qbILiEhiFKzm/giphy.gif)
Meh.
They also had a story ranking the top 16 title contenders and placed Marquette 7th (between Arizona and Iowa State).
https://theathletic.com/5353484/2024/03/20/ncaa-tournament-power-rankings-contenders-team/
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I have been quickly reading through the tons of predictions by alleged experts (I know, some actually are, but...) and there is no shortage of people predicting an early exit for Marquette, including a loss vs. WK. At least 2 have already decided that Florida will win its matchup even before tonight's opponent is decided, and predict that Florida will take us down if we get past WK.
Seeing a lot of the same thing. Not worried. Likely haven’t see us play or think Kolek will be limited. There are always play in teams that rattle off a few wins in the tournament but I think MU is too good when healthy to fall prey to this.
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Seeing a lot of the same thing. Not worried. Likely haven’t see us play or think Kolek will be limited. There are always play in teams that rattle off a few wins in the tournament but I think MU is too good when healthy to fall prey to this.
Bulletin board material, right?
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Bulletin board material, right?
Absolutely but it’s not needed. The team has the right mindset. They are a veteran team that has unfinished business to take care of. I would be very surprised if they fell flat on their face. Just don’t see it happening.
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I have been quickly reading through the tons of predictions by alleged experts (I know, some actually are, but...) and there is no shortage of people predicting an early exit for Marquette, including a loss vs. WK. At least 2 have already decided that Florida will win its matchup even before tonight's opponent is decided, and predict that Florida will take us down if we get past WK.
I kinda get it. People want to pick one upset for a top 2 seed, we're the only one that didn't win either a regular season or conference tourney, we have injury related question marks, and fair or not, Shaka still has a reputation of exiting the tournament early.
I don't think any of it will matter, and we'll win easily, but imagine how much fewer clicks all the talking heads would generate if they all just picked chalk. Plus they wanna pick fights with MU fans on twitter.
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Tom Izzo has ideas
https://x.com/adavidhalejoint/status/1770463581387063584?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Tom Izzo has ideas
https://x.com/adavidhalejoint/status/1770463581387063584?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Tom Izzo continuing his reputation of looking out for the little guy.
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Tom Izzo continuing his reputation of looking out for the little guy.
He usually just looks out for rapists. By looking out, I mean helping cover up
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LOL. Sure. Lets bring in old retired coaches and their "eye test." I'm sure that will work out great.
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Speaking of old coaches. I heard Boeheim calling the Wagner/Howard game on the radio yesterday. It sounded like they had to nudge him awake before he said anything.
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LOL. Sure. Lets bring in old retired coaches and their "eye test." I'm sure that will work out great.
It’ll be a great day for the sport when Izzo is out to pasture
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Tom Izzo has ideas
https://x.com/adavidhalejoint/status/1770463581387063584?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
It's hard to argue with his logic. If there's one thing that everyone hates about the first weekend of the tournament, it's all those annoying underdogs cheering from the bench and celebrating mid-court after an upset.
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Yeah, he's really giving off a "cranky old man" vibe. Along with Pitino. Both were coaches I enjoyed back in the day, but FFS you need to adapt or get out. Honestly, if you are just going to bitch about analytics is and can't manage NIL, it's just time. They're not going away.
Or be more like Jim Laranaga, who embraced analytics early on and pretty much rolls with the changes. He's been to a Final Four more recently than the cranks.
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Yeah, he's really giving off a "cranky old man" vibe. Along with Pitino. Both were coaches I enjoyed back in the day, but FFS you need to adapt or get out. Honestly, if you are just going to bitch about analytics is and can't manage NIL, it's just time. They're not going away.
Or be more like Jim Laranaga, who embraced analytics early on and pretty much rolls with the changes. He's been to a Final Four more recently than the cranks.
I have a piece of analytics for him:
His Final 4 teams usually had NBA players on them. He should get some of those but I don’t understand the nuances of coaching
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It's hard to argue with his logic. If there's one thing that everyone hates about the first weekend of the tournament, it's all those annoying underdogs cheering from the bench and celebrating mid-court after an upset.
Generally, I agree. I didn't read the article (don't care to) but he isn't wrong. But it is also a reason people love the first two rounds of the tournament. Ultimately, the mid-majors don't have enough fans to sell tickets to the second and third weekends, but the people at home enjoy the early upsets.
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Generally, I agree. I didn't read the article (don't care to) but he isn't wrong. But it is also a reason people love the first two rounds of the tournament. Ultimately, the mid-majors don't have enough fans to sell tickets to the second and third weekends, but the people at home enjoy the early upsets.
They love the idea of upsets but would rather watch the blue bloods.
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They love the idea of upsets but would rather watch the blue bloods.
Replacing mid-majors with Providence, Indiana or Pitt would still lead to upsets. The money would just stay where they want it to.
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It’ll be a great day for the sport when Izzo is out to pasture
I can almost hear Izzo humming, "Never Can Say Goodbye."
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How dare all of you. Izzo gave us CTC!
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They love the idea of upsets but would rather watch the blue bloods.
Very true
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That’s a shame more experts don’t believe in us. This team obviously doesn’t perform as well when they’re doubted.
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They love the idea of upsets but would rather watch the blue bloods.
Which is why the tournament is absolutely the best sporting event out there. Generally speaking, we get our upsets out of the way the first weekend -- enjoying the carnage, but then we get to settle in and watch the blue bloods battle in the Sweet 16 and beyond. Granted, last year was a bit of an aberration.
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Which is why the tournament is absolutely the best sporting event out there. Generally speaking, we get our upsets out of the way the first weekend -- enjoying the carnage, but then we get to settle in and watch the blue bloods battle in the Sweet 16 and beyond. Granted, last year was a bit of an aberration.
There will be years like last year, like 2011. And there will be years when 8-seeded Carolina (twice now), 8-seeded Kentucky, 7-seeded South Carolina make Final 4’s or a 7-seeded UConn wins it all.
End of the day, the major conferences still have more teams and a greater chance to succeed in March. Eliminating mid-majors to add mediocre, including Big East, teams is unnecessary
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If you're playing a 16 v 16 play-in game, does the winner really get to claim they've won their first NCAA tournament game ever?
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Grambling/Montana St is actually a fun game. I appreciate a spirited comeback leading into a back and forth down the stretch.
I hope Purdue gets help with their Grambling problem. It is a sin.
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Congrats to Grambling.
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Congrats to Grambling.
Great interview with their coach afterwards.
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I know all 3 teams are solid and all 3 are teams we need to beat to achieve our goals of the last two years
But am I wrong that of Colorado, Florida and Boise.....Boise is the most preferred match up?
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IIRC, that is what kenpom says.
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So, will be interesting to see how competent these two teams are. If they (whoever they are) beats FL., we will be facing a winner.
Yes I'm assuming a WKY win. Can't even think of the alternative
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Great interview with their coach afterwards.
Reminded me of the 2012 game in which #15 Norfolk State beat #2 Missouri. Norfolk State was the largest point underdog in NCAAT history to win, until FDU beat Purdue. Norfolk State center Kyle O'Quinn went off in that game with like 30 and 15 and ended up being drafted and having an extended NBA career.
Missouri didn't have a 7ft 4in 300 lb monster, so Grambling should be enjoying their first win while they can. Still, good for them and their fans.
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Not a bad start for BSU. They like to vertically attack.
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O'Quinn also had a crap ton of rebounds in that game where Norfolk State almost beat Marquette earlier that year. I think that was the "we haven't practiced our zone offense" game.
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Reminded me of the 2012 game in which #15 Norfolk State beat #2 Missouri. Norfolk State was the largest point underdog in NCAAT history to win, until FDU beat Purdue. Norfolk State center Kyle O'Quinn went off in that game with like 30 and 15 and ended up being drafted and having an extended NBA career.
Missouri didn't have a 7ft 4in 300 lb monster, so Grambling should be enjoying their first win while they can. Still, good for them and their fans.
I blame that Norfolk team for us losing in the sweet 16, I think Mizzou beats Florida and Crowder was better than Ratliff and DJO was at least on par with Denmon. We just didn't have an answer for young and their other giant.
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O'Quinn also had a crap ton of rebounds in that game where Norfolk State almost beat Marquette earlier that year. I think that was the "we haven't practiced our zone offense" game.
To be fair we had also beaten the crap out of them that year already. Those games were almost back to back if I recall so there was probably a bit of "let's get them back" was otule injured for the second game yet?
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I know all 3 teams are solid and all 3 are teams we need to beat to achieve our goals of the last two years
But am I wrong that of Colorado, Florida and Boise.....Boise is the most preferred match up?
Probably.
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To be fair we had also beaten the crap out of them that year already. Those games were almost back to back if I recall so there was probably a bit of "let's get them back" was otule injured for the second game yet?
Virgin Island Tournament.
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Currently, both Colorado and Boise are shooting about 29%. Yeow!
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Currently, both Colorado and Boise are shooting about 29%. Yeow!
Who's the Jean Felix to be when they play MU?
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We open against the fastest paced teams. The country that an article says they make virtual hockey line changes - hopefully we don’t wear out - our freshmen will hav to play good minutes…. Go Marquette!
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Neither team is exactly lighting it up.
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To be fair we had also beaten the crap out of them that year already. Those games were almost back to back if I recall so there was probably a bit of "let's get them back" was otule injured for the second game yet?
Internet is great
2011 beat them by 30. One week later, Paradise Jam, won by two. O’Quinn went for 10 and 13. Outle played. Bad Vander game…….
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Woulda been nice if a potential game vs these 2 teams was right now for us
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Woulda been nice if a potential game vs these 2 teams was right now for us
Hard to see Florida losing to either of them.
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Colorado 24 in Ken Pom
Florida is 29
So they certainly could beat Florida (and in fact likely would be favored most of this year on a neutral court)
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Colorado 24 in Ken Pom
Florida is 29
So they certainly could beat Florida (and in fact likely would be favored most of this year on a neutral court)
Because of the Kenpon rating they can beat them?
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Because of the Kenpon rating they can beat them?
That and they have 3 NBA starters along with a water buffalo playing center
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Because of the Kenpon rating they can beat them?
Yes. If you know better you wouldn't be posting on scoop.
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Neither of these teams look very good, would not believe you if you told me there was a lottery pick out there.
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There’s a lottery pick out there
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Boise has missed a bunch of chippies. Did they get carried away with loaded baked 🥔 🥔 🥔 🥔 before the game or something? Finish a 2 footer.
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Boise has missed a bunch of chippies. Did they get carried away with loaded baked 🥔 🥔 🥔 🥔 before the game or something? Finish a 2 footer.
Do we care who wins? Just wondering
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Do we care who wins? Just wondering
I would say Florida is a significant favorite over either of them. Boise's O rebounding has been impressive.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but was O’Mar Stanley the Johnnie that Kolek made choke at the FT line last year?
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At least Boise doesnt miss every shot within 3 feet
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At least Boise doesnt miss every shot within 3 feet
Lampkin is cool. Surprised he's only 265. I don't see the Buffs beating Florida. But I hope I'm wrong.
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Lampkin is cool. Surprised he's only 265. I don't see the Buffs beating Florida. But I hope I'm wrong.
Hes 300lbs
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Hes 300lbs
Ya think?? Why weren't they matched up with NC State? :)
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They need to check 7 or 8 more replays. 9 tops.
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Do we care who wins? Just wondering
Colorado has 3 guys getting drafted this year and thus more upside. I believe cracked sidewalks had them on the short list of nightmare matchups for MU.
My list of 2nd round teams I’d like to play goes
1 Boise
2 Florida
3 Colorado
But others know better than I do
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Ya think?? Why weren't they matched up with NC State? :)
This says https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/eddie-lampkinjr-1.html
And considering he looks like he ate about 5 mugsies im inclined to say hes probably higher than that.
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This says https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/eddie-lampkinjr-1.html
And considering he looks like he ate about 5 mugsies im inclined to say hes probably higher than that.
On the Colorado team site he's listed at 265 lbs.
Do we have a all-heavy starting 5?
Davante
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:)
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2/18 from deep ain’t gonna be good for you
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2/18 from deep ain’t gonna be good for you
Ya....... that's a prob.
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Looks like Izzo implemented another brilliant game plan
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Big 10 looking strong through 7 minutes.
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Game is over already
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Sparty hitting shots they have missed all season. De ja vu.
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So I guess what you're saying is my Mississippi State to the Final Four pick isn't looking great.
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I mean its a team thats been there done that.
vs a team that basically cant run offense.
Everyone all week "a guy to watch is JOsh Hubbard. Hes why Miss State offense is different"
GUys shoots like 38/35 for the year and is 5"10. Good Ds laugh at that sh it.
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Byu gonna have to score if they want to win.
Pulling a Virginia right out the gates.
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I mean its a team thats been there done that.
vs a team that basically cant run offense.
Everyone all week "a guy to watch is JOsh Hubbard. Hes why Miss State offense is different"
GUys shoots like 38/35 for the year and is 5"10. Good Ds laugh at that sh it.
Scored over 30 against Kentucky! But I think every guard does with that D.
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Glad to see the scoop intelligentsia has declared this five-point game over.
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Sparty up at half 31-24
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Glad to see the scoop intelligentsia sarcastica has declared this five-point game over.
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Already two lower seeds winning. Though MSU over MSU not really anything
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Lol, Long Beach State's AD sounds like quite a dick:
My belief and hope is that by doing what I did and the timing of it, they would play inspired, and that's what they did," Bobby Smitheran told The Associated Press on Thursday, a few hours before the Beach tipped off against Arizona. "I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but it worked."
I could see this explanation kind of working for a pro team, but you don't fire a college coach to light a fire under 18-22 year old kids who enrolled at your school to play for said coach. What a goober.
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My God really? The athletic director is going to take credit for this ham-handed move? That quote is embarrassing.
Maybe the President should fire him to inspire the entire athletic department.
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Mississippi St. just getting destroyed on the glass.
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Glad to see the scoop intelligentsia has declared this five-point game over.
This game has been men against boys from the start if you've watched.
MSU briefly got sloppy thats been about it
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Going in I thought that Duquesne was noticeably the worst 11 seed, but they seem to be playing well.
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Lol, Long Beach State's AD sounds like quite a dick:
I could see this explanation kind of working for a pro team, but you don't fire a college coach to light a fire under 18-22 year old kids who enrolled at your school to play for said coach. What a goober.
My god what a douche
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This game has been men against boys from the start if you've watched.
MSU briefly got sloppy thats been about it
Preparation night and day for sure. Miss St. has been embarrassed defensively.
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Akron plays 0 defense.
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Duq playing angry and tough. Got BYU on their heels after dust up.
BYU in serious troubles
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Whoa. I just took my first look at the morning scores. Duquesne up 14???? And WTH is going on with Creighton? Did someone anger Zippy??
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My God really? The athletic director is going to take credit for this ham-handed move? That quote is embarrassing.
Maybe the President should fire him to inspire the entire athletic department.
We agree here Fluffy! What a colossal tool.
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Whoa. I just took my first look at the morning scores. Duquesne up 14???? And WTH is going on with Creighton? Did someone anger Zippy??
Mugs not watching March Madness??
This could be another Mugsy Mush for the sqaud, cmon man
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Whoa. I just took my first look at the morning scores. Duquesne up 14???? And WTH is going on with Creighton? Did someone anger Zippy??
Crapshoot.
Probably a good idea not to assume the MU game will be a cakewalk.
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Mugs not watching March Madness??
This could be another Mugsy Mush for the sqaud, cmon man
I'm taking the day off tomorrow.
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Nice closeout to the half for Creighton.
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Well, there goes my perfect bracket.
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Get ready for year 5 of Kalk and a 4th fraudulent D POY award
This guy is a stiff on D. And while his size alone helps him score against a lot of college teams. His "moves" are hilarious.
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Get ready for year 5 of Kalk and a 4th fraudulent D POY award
This guy is a stiff on D. And while his size alone helps him score against a lot of college teams. His "moves" are hilarious.
Soft. Feel like him winning that award 3x is just lazy voting
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Baylor's Langston Love (ankle) is OUT for this weekend's NCAA Tournament games and is doubtful for the rest of March Madness, per Scott Drew.
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Nice closeout to the half for Creighton.
7 for 10 on threes overcoming otherwise sloppy play.
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Now they tell us about the Baylor guy…
I am pulling for Duquesne. I am doing PT
and my physical therapist is from that area and rooting for them, and I like the way he works with patients, so feel obliged to root for them. 🤪
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Zona looking terrible right now
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Zona looking terrible right now
Let Zona be this year's 15-2 upset.
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Duq impressive at the FT line to end the game. Matta
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Those DUQ alternate jerseys are pretty awesome.
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BYU ... another fraud.
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Jimmy Clark just completely took control of that game in the last few minutes. Gonna need our Seniors to do the same this tournament
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Tournament is trash. Expand it
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You can't do that, Akron big.
Unless you are Providence playing MU.
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The only team Ashworth would fit better on is UW
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The madness is lacking thus far
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My bride: "It's Steve Alford! And his hair is still perfect!"
Bastard.
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Domask with a triple double for Illinois.
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Domask with a triple double for Illinois.
First NCAA tournament triple double since Ja Morant. :o
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Domask with a triple double for Illinois.
Was supposed to be a lock for UW-Madison when he entered the portal
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And his hair is still perfect!"
Bastard.
Yeah but he's a hairy-handed gent.
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Two upsets. Working on a third.
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Nevada, man
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17-0 run for Dayton
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Dayton Nevada down to wire
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Legit LOL at Nevada
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Woof Pack
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Put Dayton in the Big East, you cowards
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Dayton trailed 56-39 with 7:36 left.
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What a choke job. They should reimburse me the $5 I bet on them
#HighRoller
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Brian Anderson has jumped the shark
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Nevada-Reno 911
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Colorado State zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Man am I good at holding a grudge. I don't know a single coach or player involved with Dayton basketball in 20-30 years and I still just cringed in anger when I saw they won a game.
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Looks like Colorado State caught a bad case of Cantscoreitis from Virginia.
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Wish we had gotten Boise State. The MWC getting 6 in and the BE getting 3 is LOL funny.
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Wish we had gotten Boise State. The MWC getting 6 in and the BE getting 3 is LOL funny.
To be fair, only SDSU is the favored seed.
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Colorado State lead 8-2 with 15:14 left in the first half. They trail at half 27-11.
That’s embarrassing. I’m sorry. That can’t happen from a 10-seed in an opening round tourney game. That’s a college hoops problem
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Colorado State lead 8-2 with 15:14 left in the first half. They trail at half 27-11.
That’s embarrassing. I’m sorry. That can’t happen from a 10-seed in an opening round tourney game. That’s a college hoops problem
11 total points???? Wow.
C'mon Oakland!
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Texas shootlng 39% from the field and 11% from 3, with 9 turnovers at half. They lead by 16.
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Did Nevada choke? Weren't they up pretty big in the 2H?
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Oakland's star, Townsend, is giving them nothing. Thankfully for them, Gohlke is hitting from everywhere.
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Did Nevada choke? We're they up pretty big in the 2H?
Dayton out scored them 24-4 over the last 6 plus minutes
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Dayton out scored them 24-4 over the last 6 plus minutes
Yikes. Sounds like a gag job.
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Did you see that in the Kentucky/Oak game?? LOL.
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Yikes. Sounds like a gag job.
Yeah, Dayton had nothing going and then buckets started falling. Nevada didn’t know what hit them. Looked like they were in shock, tbh
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Yeah, Dayton had nothing going and then buckets started falling. Nevada didn’t know what hit them. Looked like they were in shock, tbh
Alford probably didn't help on the sidelines.
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Alford probably didn't help on the sidelines.
I thought he was fine? The sets they ran late weren’t great but I give the credit to Dayton moreso on that. Dayton just started making shots they had missed for 34 minutes. It was 56-47 and then 56-56 in like :30. Dayton’s defense really tightened up, too. Forced Nevada into some hard shots late
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Fouls are going to doom Oakland. :(
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Gohlke is from Milwaukee…hmm.
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Stop rewarding that embellishing garbage.
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Gohlke is from Milwaukee…hmm.
Oakland owes us one.
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What is in the water in Pewaukee? Those guys can all shoot it.
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Oakland owes us one.
I assumed he didn’t have any eligibility left (he looks like he’s 30), and alas, this is his last year of eligibility.
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What is in the water in Pewaukee? Those guys can all shoot it.
Watt family dumping PEDs into the water supply
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Gohlke is from Milwaukee…hmm.
Chandler Bing with a heckuva 1st half
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Apparently McNeese was reading theor press clippings.
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To be fair, only SDSU is the favored seed.
To be more fair, this is the MW sans SDSU every single year
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Apparently McNeese was reading theor press clippings.
Zags have the pieces. They’ll be a top-5 team next year.
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Shaka to Kentucky?
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Oakland doing a great job controlling tempo.
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Whatever you do, Kentucky, keep shooting 3s instead of going inside. Cuz that’s working so well.
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Get it done Oakland. Let’s go.
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Oakland 3-9 from the FT line??? FOCUS. Jeesh.
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Great block by the rim!
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Watts told Izzo he didn't want to play point guard. And then left.
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Watts told Izzo he didn't want to play point guard. And then left.
Didn’t want to play with Joey Hauser either. Seems to be a theme
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Man I hate the flop/charge.
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I still can't believe Oakland will do it. But Kentucky hasn't lit it up yet. Maybe they won't.
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Didn’t want to play with Joey Hauser either. Seems to be a theme
Joey's roommate.
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Joey's roommate.
Says it all
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7 missed free throws...
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I still can't believe Oakland will do it. But Kentucky hasn't lit it up yet. Maybe they won't.
Missing that 1 and 1 didn't help. Smh.
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7 missed free throws...
FTs no matta
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Man I hate the flop/charge.
I feel better about myself being able to say I can't believe refs fall for the flop when MU isn't involved
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Oakland might want to guard the only guy hurting them. Just a suggestion.
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Zone. Oakland is going to play what they play. 3rd time I have watched them this year. Sparty shredded it. UWMilwaukee was unaffected by it. Kentucky keeps missing.
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"Chizza" along with footlong cookies and churros is emblematic of the severe problems in our country. Why? Smh.
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Did Lappas pick Kentucky in his pool?
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Ridiculous foul call leads to Kentucky 3 to cut it to 3. That could be huge
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Is Dillingham point shaving?
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Wow. Some craziness the last min or so.
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Wow
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Basketball is fun
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its why they play the game
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Omg. Big-time shot!!
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This result would be ideal for us ;D
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All those talking heads with Kentucky coming out of the south......
Huh
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GO GRIZZLIES!!! Sink these.
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Cal is getting fired
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WKU doesn't have anyone from the Lake Country area of Waukesha county correct?
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Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. :)
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Cal is getting fired
Crean time?
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Rooting against my bracket!
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I got so tired of hearing about Kentucky over MU, as a final four contender, as a title contender. Name recognition nonsense. This was always a team that gives up 80+ to Oakland.
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Focus.
Slam the door.
:)
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Wow. 80% foul shooter.
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I got so tired of hearing about Kentucky over MU, as a final four contender, as a title contender. Name recognition nonsense. This was always a team that gives up 80+ to Oakland.
I never understood the love affair with this Kentucky team. I know the offense is elite but the d just wasn’t good enough
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Count that!!
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I never understood the love affair with this Kentucky team. I know the offense is elite but the d just wasn’t good enough
Its the brand just like Duke.
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Down goes Kentucky
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Lmao pound sand Kentucky!
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Calipari is old enough for Social Security. I bet he retires after that
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Kentucky fans talking about how easy their path to the Elite 8 was lol
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This is why major conferences want to get rid of mid-majors and add the mediocre teams of their leagues. SEC offices on the horn right now
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Cal’s $33M buyout is WILD
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Jeff Goodman suicide watch!!! You clown !
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Kentucky fans talking about how easy their path to the Elite 8 was lol
And almost all of the so-called “experts”.
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Cal is getting fired
No joke. UK fans are done with the lack of tournament success. This may set some dominos falling.
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This tournament format sucks, we should definitely change it
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One and done is a failed formula. Henry Ellenson is exhibit A.
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Cal’s $33M buyout is WILD
"A mere pittance."
- Jimbo Fisher
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Wow, the dumbest goaltending I've seen in the Tennessee game
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Kid went full Markus Howard. Props.
(https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/union/2020/02/28/31fe00cb.gif?crop=0.71%2C0.95%2Cx0.27%2Cy0.05%2Csafe)
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I’ll wager a dollar Calipari is coaching Michigan next year. I predict a Shaka-ish mutual separation from Kentucky.
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Too bad Shaka ran off Jonas Aidoo
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All those talking heads with Kentucky coming out of the south......
Huh
This. I'd like a montage of Bilas and all the others praising KU to no end.
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That Oregon tean would concern me if I was Creighton. That big they have is a stud.
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Down goes Kentucky
unnatural carnal knowledge YEAH!
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This. I'd like a montage of Bilas and all the others praising KU to no end.
I assume you mean UK.
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This. I'd like a montage of Bilas and all the others praising KU to no end.
That was UK. KU will be losing later tonight.
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I’ll wager a dollar Calipari is coaching Michigan next year. I predict a Shaka-ish mutual separation from Kentucky.
I don’t think Michigan would have any interest in Calipari.
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SEC in the tournament thus far:
Kentucky loses to a 14 seed.
Miss St gets smoked by Mich St.
South Carolina puts up little fight vs Oregon.
Something to watch going forward.
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Gotta love this tourney, ESPN has an article online on the top 50 NBA draft prospects playing in the NCAA tournament. Kentucky has 7 players listed and Oakland has none!
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I never understood the love affair with this Kentucky team. I know the offense is elite but the d just wasn’t good enough
Pretty easy to say after the fact.
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I'd be ok with MU having a 27-7 lead tomorrow like the 2 seed Tennessee right now
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I really don't want Marquette to be a story... Get WKU early and don't play lazy with the lead. 20 pt win.
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I think we come out with the focus and determination we saw in 2nd the ‘Dence game and go up big early.
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I don’t think Michigan would have any interest in Calipari.
He seems a little more of a fit with the cardinals.
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He seems a little more of a fit with the cardinals.
I was about to suggest he pulls a Pitino.
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Pretty easy to say after the fact.
🙄
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I was about to suggest he pulls a Pitino.
Beard to Kentucky?
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I'll be pulling for Drake, Samford, NC State, and the 🦚 🦚 🦚.
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If D.J. Burns is only 275 lbs, I'm 6'6.
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Nissan.
NCAA BB commercial with 12+ mascots in commercial. No golden eagle. Boycott Nisan!
😂
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Achor Achor time
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Give Kansas credit. No McCullar, no problem against a good team
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I wonder if Billy Donovan would go to Kentucky?
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Give Kansas credit. No McCullar, no problem against a good team
I may have jinxed all 4 underdogs.
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Have my doubts about St. Peter’s making another Elite 8
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I really hope Texas Tech takes this one. Burns at 275 lbs. could injure our guys. He reminded me of the buffalo in the Wild Wings ad showing how to box out when be butt checked that TT guy.
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I really hope Texas Tech takes this one. Burns at 275 lbs. could injure our guys. He reminded me of the buffalo in the Wild Wings ad showing how to box out when be butt checked that TT guy.
We won’t be playing either one…..
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Calipari is old enough for Social Security. I bet he retires after that
Not to mention that he is not a good coach, maybe even a bad coach.
One of the great recruiters ever, but he loses tons of games when he has better players.
I don’t think it really matters for us that they lost. We’re a better team and if we play well, UK would not beat us.
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Pretty easy to say after the fact.
We watched several Marquette teams just like it in the past decade
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We watched several Marquette teams just like it in the past decade
Didn’t think it was controversial to say the team 111th in defensive efficiency was getting too much love, whether on Sunday or today.
That said, thought they’d roll to Sweet 16 but loved Marquette against them.
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Darnell Brodie is a load as well. They're are three mack trucks in the tournament.
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If D.J. Burns is only 275 lbs, I'm 6'6.
D for Davante, hey?
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D for Davante, hey?
He's easily 310 Viper. And has a lot of skills and power.
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Pretty easy to say after the fact.
It was pretty obvious if you’ve seen them a lot. I had them winning this game but losing in round 2, but you could tell they were in for a battle after about 5 minutes today.
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Drake 4-11 from the FT line.
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Drake 4-11 from the FT line.
FTs no matta
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Couldn’t ask for a better start but I will anyway….could someone else please volunteer to knock out Houston!? Every time I’ve watched them this year my thought has been… jeez I hope we don’t have to play them. So physical and such great rebounders. Not saying it couldn’t be done but I’d just much rather see anyone else.. I know I’m getting ahead of myself.
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Couldn’t ask for a better start but I will anyway….could someone else please volunteer to knock out Houston!? Every time I’ve watched them this year my thought has been… jeez I hope we don’t have to play them. So physical and such great rebounders. Not saying it couldn’t be done but I’d just much rather see anyone else.. I know I’m getting ahead of myself.
Gard on line 1
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Not a good close to this game from Drake.
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Darnell Brodie is a load as well. They're are three mack trucks in the tournament.
Brodie stinks tho.
He’d get laughed off the court in the BE
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Drake’s missed FT’s loom large
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Brodie stinks tho.
He’d get laughed off the court in the BE
He played pretty well until he fouled out.
Conference of Champions 4-0.
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Let's go Samford!
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This KU-Samford game is incredible. 81-78 with 4:40 left. Tony Bennett in shambles
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Damn.
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All fking ball. Sweet Jesus.
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All fking ball. Sweet Jesus.
Absolutely horrid
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Inexcusable call. And a tremendous play by that Samford player.
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All fking ball. Sweet Jesus.
Another ref out of position making the call
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Taking away such a hard fought game from Samford, that's so messed up. It didn't look like a foul at all what was that ref watching
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Inexcusable call. And a tremendous play by that Samford player.
ruined the game. They stop to review every other play but can't with that one? Vegas called it in
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Another ref out of position making the call
That was beyond brutal. Not even close to a foul. These refs should not be permitted to officiate another game.
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What a terrible dampener on what was a great day of basketball
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Samford totally robbed.
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I feel awful for the Samford team and their fans. I think they would have won it.
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That was beyond brutal. Not even close to a foul. These refs should not be permitted to officiate another game.
The ref who saw the clean block doesn’t blow his whistle, the ref trailing bench side without a view of body contact blows the whistle.
That’s college refs in a nutshell. Either anticipating calls and blowing the whistle early or calling fouls they clearly can’t see.
Absolutely brutal. It’s not why Kansas won, but it is still egregious and a problem plaguing the sport.
And monitor reviews. Good lord, enough
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The ref who saw the clean block doesn’t blow his whistle, the ref trailing bench side without a view of body contact blows the whistle.
That’s college refs in a nutshell. Either anticipating calls and blowing the whistle early or calling fouls they clearly can’t see.
Absolutely brutal. It’s not why Kansas won, but it is still egregious and a problem plaguing the sport.
And monitor reviews. Good lord, enough
I assume that's going to lead to a challenge system in college hoops. 100% correct. You simply cannot make anticipatory calls. And that one in particular was even more egregious because there was literally no body contact on an incredible clean block.
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The ref who saw the clean block doesn’t blow his whistle, the ref trailing bench side without a view of body contact blows the whistle.
That’s college refs in a nutshell. Either anticipating calls and blowing the whistle early or calling fouls they clearly can’t see.
Absolutely brutal. It’s not why Kansas won, but it is still egregious and a problem plaguing the sport.
And monitor reviews. Good lord, enough
Yep. Clear anticipation call. If you miss a call because you thought you saw something, fine. I get it. Sucks, but it happens. But you can’t be blowing calls because you’re not in the moment.
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What an utterly bizarre move by the NCAA with the Saturday tip times.
Salt Lake going in the early window (10:45 am MDT) back to back. Kansas game ended at 11:00 pm local time, and they have as short a turnaround as I’ve seen in the tournament, in altitude no less.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-KS120x97w
Tim Doyle, the genius who picked UK to cut down the nets, has Marquette as the Friday upset special (around 9:30).
I am dumber for having watched that video.
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What an utterly bizarre move by the NCAA with the Saturday tip times.
Salt Lake going in the early window (10:45 am MDT) back to back. Kansas game ended at 11:00 pm local time, and they have as short a turnaround as I’ve seen in the tournament, in altitude no less.
My guess is that originally they were going to stick Kentucky in that window.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-KS120x97w
Tim Doyle, the genius who picked UK to cut down the nets, has Marquette as the Friday upset special (around 9:30).
I am dumber for having watched that video.
I "love" the narrative that MU "stumbled" down the stretch. 3 -3 against Q1 and Q2a...with competitive games against the 1# overall seed. Is not really stumbling!
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Question is off-topic, but it didn't makes sense (to me, at least) to create a new thread.
In the past, pretty much any time a player fell and hit the ground in possession of the ball, it was called a travel. And they certainly couldn't slide or roll with the ball. In recent years -- this season in particular -- this isn't getting called. It seems like they never call the falling player, and I've even seen some guys cover a fair amount of ground sliding without getting called. Was there an actual rule change? Or have refs just changed the way they are calling that?
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Question is off-topic, but it didn't makes sense (to me, at least) to create a new thread.
In the past, pretty much any time a player fell and hit the ground in possession of the ball, it was called a travel. And they certainly couldn't slide or roll with the ball. In recent years -- this season in particular -- this isn't getting called. It seems like they never call the falling player, and I've even seen some guys cover a fair amount of ground sliding without getting called. Was there an actual rule change? Or have refs just changed the way they are calling that?
Agree, I’ve seen this multiple times this year without a travel call. I hope you get an answer to your rule change question. I’m curious as well.
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11 seeds 3-0 yesterday. Hoping New Mexico completes the sweep today.
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From the intertubes:
Duquesne-Illinois.
Loser has to pronounce its S.
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From the intertubes:
Duquesne-Illinois.
Loser has to pronounce its S.
And the UI fans in Versailles, IL have to stop pronouncing the ‘s’.
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For all the hype about him, Reed Sheppard was invisible for Kentucky yesterday. 5 FGA, made only 1. 0 rebs. 4 assists. 26 minutes of near-nothingness for a team that lost to the mighty Golden Grizzlies.
Sheppard was outscored 32-3 by a 24-year-old grad student from Pewaukee who spent 5 years in Division II.
I have seen very little Kentucky basketball this season, and NBA types who have seen lots of Kentucky basketball reportedly think Sheppard could be a top-5 draft pick. And maybe he'll be a great pro. We'll see.
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For all the hype about him, Reed Sheppard was invisible for Kentucky yesterday. 5 FGA, made only 1. 0 rebs. 4 assists. 26 minutes of near-nothingness for a team that lost to the mighty Golden Grizzlies.
Sheppard was outscored 32-3 by a 24-year-old grad student from Pewaukee who spent 5 years in Division II.
I have seen very little Kentucky basketball this season, and NBA types who have seen lots of Kentucky basketball reportedly think Sheppard could be a top-5 draft pick. And maybe he'll be a great pro. We'll see.
When they switched him onto the Pewaukee kid, his defense was really good on him.
Kentucky’s offense was abysmal. No movement at all. A lot of one-on-one and bad shots. Lot of that blame goes on Cal. Dillingham was the biggest problem. Just a brutal game.
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For all the hype about him, Reed Sheppard was invisible for Kentucky yesterday. 5 FGA, made only 1. 0 rebs. 4 assists. 26 minutes of near-nothingness for a team that lost to the mighty Golden Grizzlies.
Sheppard was outscored 32-3 by a 24-year-old grad student from Pewaukee who spent 5 years in Division II.
I have seen very little Kentucky basketball this season, and NBA types who have seen lots of Kentucky basketball reportedly think Sheppard could be a top-5 draft pick. And maybe he'll be a great pro. We'll see.
Jay Wright summed up Kentucky perfectly after the game and honed in on your point. It's not just the obvious experience difference between an 18 and 24 yr old. Wright stated that being an NBA prospect or lottery pick doesn't neccessarily make you a better college basketball player than those that won't play in the NBA.
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I will be rooting for the 🦉 🦉 🦉 in this first game.
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I will be rooting for the 🦉 🦉 🦉 in this first game.
These teams blow
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What an utterly bizarre move by the NCAA with the Saturday tip times.
Salt Lake going in the early window (10:45 am MDT) back to back. Kansas game ended at 11:00 pm local time, and they have as short a turnaround as I’ve seen in the tournament, in altitude no less.
That is bizarre. Weird call, even if they wanted Kentucky in that window
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These teams blow
Both of them will get pummeled by UCONN.
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Both of them will get pummeled by UCONN.
The way to beat Northwestern is to let them shoot
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Early on, FAU has been an embarrassment to the mighty 🦉 🦉 🦉 population. Jeesh.
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Early on, FAU has been an embarrassment to the mighty 🦉 🦉 🦉 population. Jeesh.
To steal from you, they need to attack. Can’t stand around
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To steal from you, they need to attack. Can’t stand around
They need to imagine the Northwestern team as voles or lemmings.
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Looks like a Virginia scrimmage.
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Nice flop, Buie
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This is ugly. Of course Goodman still thinks FAU will give UCONN all they can handle.
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Florida Atlantic turnovers are awful. Dribbling off the foot, falling down. Like watching DePaul
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Great advertising for the NBA.
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Florida Atlantic turnovers are awful. Dribbling off the foot, falling down. Like watching DePaul
And they're up 1. Not exactly an impressive 1H by either team.
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Florida Atlantic turnovers are awful. Dribbling off the foot, falling down. Like watching DePaul
OMax??
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Great advertising for the NBA.
☝🏼
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FAU is weird.
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Big Ten proving to be the best conference in the nation
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UConn looking like they'll beat Stetson by 40 or 50...not kidding. Really.
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Their teams were underseed bur this has been a disastrous 2 days for the MWC.
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Who we want in UF/Buffs game?
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Who we want in UF/Buffs game?
4 OTs
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Who we want in UF/Buffs game?
Split opinion on scoop.
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I would definitely say Colorado. Although Lampkin bruise up Oso.
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Lampkin reminds me of Davante. So agile for his enormous size.
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Wow. Florida on pace for about 140.
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Who we want in UF/Buffs game?
I want revenge on Florida for 2012. Bring on the Gators
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Lampkin reminds me of Davante. So agile for his enormous size.
Very. And we may have to deal with him and DJ Burns. That's about 640lbs. We really do need Oso to find his game. I hope he's okay physically.
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I'm leaning Colorado. Three games in 5 days. An overtime or two would be awesome.
Lampkin is a load down low and Colorado looks like they like to attack the paint.
Tough call.
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Lampkin and Burns are extremely fun to watch.
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Ughhh. Terrible goaltend by Yale. Focus.
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Jeesh. Moronic foul by Yale.
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Boola boola!
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Wow! 88% and a brick. :)
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UConn rolling to the Elite 8
Probably
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UConn rolling to the Elite 8
Probably
I can't remember being more confident that a team will make the Final Four.
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Not a great couple days for the SEC.
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Yale!!!
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UConn rolling to the Elite 8
Probably
Yep.
Insane ending but Ty Yale.
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Yale over Auburn.
You can't beat this tournament.
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Not a great couple days for the SEC.
That’s for sure. Wow.
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Florida vs. Colorado was maybe the worst combo of defense/coaching that I have seen.
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Auburn wasn't beating UCONN. When I said UCONN will walk to the E8 when the draw came out I wasn't joking.
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Yale over Auburn.
You can't beat this tournament.
My bracket has never been so unnatural carnal knowledgeed this early before. But enjoying the games.
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Big dilemma in the Duke/Vermont game. Man I hope JMU punks the weasels.
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My bracket has never been so unnatural carnal knowledgeed this early before. But enjoying the games.
Haven’t picked a loser yet
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Haven’t picked a loser yet
Good job.
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Good job.
Thanks!
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Marquette really couldn't have asked for a better bracket to unfold after days 1 and 2. Literally every top seed they could play before the elite 8 got upset.
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I'm rooting for Buzzy. F the Big 10.
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I'm rooting for Buzzy. F the Big 10.
I think Texas A&M is an absolutely horrible matchup for Houston. I would actually pick Texas A&M win on Sunday if they meet.
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TAMU only lost 70-66 the first time they played Houston. Maybe they pull one out in round 2.
Nebraska can get red hot from 3. That's their ticket to beating Houston, if they yet past TAMU.
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TAMU only lost 70-66 the first time they played Houston. Maybe they pull one out in round 2.
Nebraska can get red hot from 3. That's their ticket to beating Houston, if they yet past TAMU.
Marquette shouldn’t have run Buzz off despite the rapes imo
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Sweet shot there by the Vermont guard.
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I assume it's asking for too much from today to have an upset in a certain late game tonight
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I assume it's asking for too much from today to have an upset in a certain late game tonight
Done deal
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I assume it's asking for too much from today to have an upset in a certain late game tonight
Of course it's not asking too much!!
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Grambling St. may have to go to the stands to have enough players in the 2H.
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A man saw my MU sweatshirt in the liquor department of the grocery store after the game and stopped me to talk. He seems genuinely happy MU won. We crossed paths again 5 minutes later and wanted to talk about the Badger game as if I would be rooting for them too.
What is wrong with people these days?
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Marquette shouldn’t have run Buzz off despite the rapes imo
Doesn't disqualify one for President, so how could it disqualify one for head BB coach?
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I assume it's asking for too much from today to have an upset in a certain late game tonight
The Perfect Day
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Nebraska would finish 8th or 9th in the Big East
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The Perfect Day
It would be known by that name for the next year at least
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I think MU would turnover Duke like crazy.
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Duke is not a very good team.
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Duke is not a very good team.
Not your father's Duke team for sure.
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Not your father's Duke team for sure.
I mean they have guys that cam get hot fron distance but they haven't impressed me much all season.
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I mean they have guys that cam get hot fron distance but they haven't impressed me much all season.
Duke assistants who recruit great is a winning combination. :o
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That was another prime example of why I can’t trust Purdue. Offense just vanished again flor a good 5 min stretch against a 16 seed. It’s happened to them so many times this year against all different sorts of competition
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How many times in the tournament have teams scored 100 points in regulation and lost?
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That was another prime example of why I can’t trust Purdue. Offense just vanished again flor a good 5 min stretch against a 16 seed. It’s happened to them so many times this year against all different sorts of competition
JWags,
I don't care for Purdue or their fans. Ironically my hatred began when Shaka, Joey Rodriguez, and VCU, throttled them at the United Center in 2011.
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It seems anyone cheering against the 4th president would be cheering against America. Definitely couldn't be me.
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How many times in the tournament have teams scored 100 points in regulation and lost?
Today was 10th time
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It seems anyone cheering against the 4th president would be cheering against America. Definitely couldn't be me.
Damn straight! It would also illustrate the constant prejudice our diminutive citizens face on a regular basis. :)
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It seems anyone cheering against the 4th president would be cheering against America. Definitely couldn't be me.
Especially when the other team is red. Might as well be the Fighting Putins.
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Especially when the other team is red. Might as well be the Fighting Putins.
Putin is a great leader and American ally
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Purdue has 4 total fouls with 8 mins to go in tbe game. Hopefully that doesn't happen in the rd of 32.
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Edey is good.
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Purdue has 4 total fouls with 8 mins to go in tbe game. Hopefully that doesn't happen in the rd of 32.
It’s Grambling. They don’t have any size to matchup realistically
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It’s Grambling. They don’t have any size to matchup realistically
True but 4 is still astounding.
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Edey is good.
Would you draft him in the lottery? It is a weak draft.
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Would you draft him in the lottery? It is a weak draft.
If I want to get fired
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Haven’t picked a loser yet
Ever, anywhere, anytime.
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I mean they have guys that cam get hot fron distance but they haven't impressed me much all season.
I don’t think Sheyer is much of a coach. One shot all day for Fillipowski? He was half a foot taller than anyone who guarded him. They doubled the post but still…
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Bucky does not like this pace that JMU is playing at.
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I don’t think Sheyer is much of a coach. One shot all day for Fillipowski? He was half a foot taller than anyone who guarded him. They doubled the post but still…
Scheyer is able to recruit off of the Duke mystique but he’s not a very good coach.
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I don’t think Sheyer is much of a coach. One shot all day for Fillipowski? He was half a foot taller than anyone who guarded him. They doubled the post but still…
That was my first time watching Fillipowski, I wasn't impressed. He seemed slow, struggled getting up and down the court at times (maybe he's not 100%), and didn't do a great job establishing position against smaller players.
Maybe it was an off game, but not impressed, given the hype around him.
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Enjoyed watching the JMU player bounce the ball off the Badger's head. Is Floppy McNutpuncher on the Badger bench?
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Enjoyed watching the JMU player bounce the ball off the Badger's head. Is Floppy McNutpuncher on the Badger bench?
That was sweet!
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Filipowski hasn't been the same since that criminal brutality against him during that court storm.
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Filipowski hasn't been the same since that criminal brutality against him during that court storm.
To be fair, he did have to get his leg amputated.
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Great ball pressure by JMU early.
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Speed killing the Badgers.
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Badgers win would help the Marquette cause
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JMU should be up more. Bricking from distance and in general.
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JMU should be up more. Bricking from distance and in general.
Badgers win this by 25. Gard gets it done in March
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Gard complaining about refs already was fun.
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And here I thought Western Kentucky played helter skelter.
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Gard complaining about refs already was fun.
Lol. That was a beauty.
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Badgers win this by 25. Gard gets it done in March
Very upsetting stretch for JMU.
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Very upsetting stretch for JMU.
JMU coach can’t match up against Gard. Gard just gets it done
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Question is off-topic, but it didn't makes sense (to me, at least) to create a new thread.
In the past, pretty much any time a player fell and hit the ground in possession of the ball, it was called a travel. And they certainly couldn't slide or roll with the ball. In recent years -- this season in particular -- this isn't getting called. It seems like they never call the falling player, and I've even seen some guys cover a fair amount of ground sliding without getting called. Was there an actual rule change? Or have refs just changed the way they are calling that?
I've noticed this a lot lately as well. So I reached out to a buddy who has been a high school ref in Georgia for 35 years. He said the rule is if you have possession and you fall down and slide, it's a travel because you've lost your pivot foot. If you don't have the ball and you dive for a loose ball and slide while you have possession, it is NOT a travel because you haven't established a "pivot foot." You can literally slide six feet, and until your momentum is stopped, there is no travel. If you then try to get up, it's a travel. I may not have explained as well as he did, but that's gist of it.
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JMU gets virtually every loose ball. Fun team to watch.
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James Madison should be winning by more.
UW should feel ok to be down just 7.
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James Madison should be winning by more.
UW should feel ok to be down just 7.
Gard just gets it done
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James Madison should be winning by more.
UW should feel ok to be down just 7.
No doubt. Complete lack of focus.
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Gard is ugly
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James Madison is no 12 seed.
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Interesting performance for the Badgers so far.
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Gard just gets it done
By far the team I’m worried the most about in South Region. They have a good chance to cut down nets in Phoenix.
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Bucky putting on an offensive clinic.
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James Madison should be winning by more.
UW should feel ok to be down just 7.
How should UW feel now?
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Bucky playing like Dolley Madison.
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Nothing says Big 10 hoops like point a minute halves.
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By far the team I’m worried the most about in South Region. They have a good chance to cut down nets in Phoenix.
Wahl time
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Huge 4-0 run by Madison late to cut it to 13. Momentum on their side
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I'm concerned. JMU should be up closer to 25. And Gard said he's going to talk to the refs.
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James Madison is no 12 seed.
Why?
71 in TRank. 59 in KenPom. 1 Q1/2 (combined) wins. 22 of their wins are Q4.
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Why?
71 in TRank. 59 in KenPom. 1 Q1/2 (combined) wins. 22 of their wins are Q4.
Because what I see on the floor
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Because what I see on the floor
“Ive watched one half of James Madison basketball all year…”
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Because what I see on the floor
JMU hasn't looked that impressive. They play wild and out of control.
Wisconsin looks poorly coached, and let that type of play get to them.
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Huge 4-0 run by Madison late to cut it to 13. Momentum on their side
Hopefully the JMU coach is strategizing at half how to prevent Bucky from opening the
second half with another 4-0 run. 🤔
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JMU hasn't looked that impressive. They play wild and out of control.
Wisconsin looks poorly coached, and let that type of play get to them.
Completely agree forgetful.
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Gard complaining about refs already was fun.
"I gotta do a better job talking to the officials"
Was Gard's response to a question about his team's number of turnovers
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Just another masterclass halftime adjustment by Gard to get his team to make shots
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Klemsit is on one of his heaters.
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Gard knows ball. Let Chucky deal.
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Klemsit is on one of his heaters.
Has kept them in the game.
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Klemsit is on one of his heaters.
Badgers won the first 8 minutes carrying the momentum over from before the half. Cut the lead by 2. Gard adjustments paying off
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Badgers won the first 8 minutes carrying the momentum over from before the half. Cut the lead by 2. Gard adjustments paying off
So underrated as a master in game strategist.
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I’m looking forward to seeing how well Wahl plays for the Weasels in 2025-26.
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I’m looking forward to seeing how well Wahl plays for the Weasels in 2025-26.
Gard’s recruiting pitch…you can play here until you are 30.
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So underrated as a master in game strategist.
Cut another point off the lead in the next 4 minute segment. Maybe 3 if we count the throws coming
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Cut another point off the lead in the next 4 minute segment. Maybe 3 if we count the throws coming
Unfortunately this game is far from over.
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Would be nice if we could have a couple possessions without a foul.
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Close this thing out JMad.
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Would be nice if we could have a couple possessions without a foul.
Gard told them to call a tighter game. He gets it done
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Klesmit thinks he’s playing Marquette.
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Wtf was that layup attempt?
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Wtf was that layup attempt?
He thought you got more points based on the amount of spin.
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Gard’s coaching lost 2 points in that 4 minute segment. Getting it done sometimes means giving to take
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WTF??? What was that missed chippie??
SLAM
THE
DOOR.
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Calling for gards head at bville. Drink up those badger tears.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/buckyville/jmu-vs-uw-4-5-t106845.html
Incidentally, scoop is such a better site - I would go crazy with the ads and formatting over there. Thanks Rocky.
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Calling for gards head at bville. Drink up those badger tears.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/buckyville/jmu-vs-uw-4-5-t106845.html
Incidentally, scoop is such a better site - I would go crazy with the ads and formatting over there. Thanks Rocky.
Meh. I don’t even bother entering the Game threads here.
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Wow, wahl off today. Good guy, sorry to see . But rooting for JMU
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Would be nice if we could have a couple possessions without a foul.
It seems they have adjusted the other way quite drastically.
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Longwood unable to penetrate this Houston defense.
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It seems they have adjusted the other way quite drastically.
Bucky got away with at least 5 fouls in one possession.
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Tick
Tick
Tick
Tick
Tick
:)
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Tick
Tick
Tick
Tick
Tick
:)
FASTER
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Tick
Tick
Tick
Tick
Tick
:)
JMU doing just enough dumb things to keep from closing it out.
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Will the Journal Sentinel actually put a Marquette article on the front page, now that Wisconsin is out of the picture?
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Will the Journal Sentinel actually put a Marquette article on the front page, now that Wisconsin is out of the picture?
People still read the Journal Sentinel?
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It may not look like it but he's pleased.
(https://allthingsliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/James-Madison-by-Sharples-1170x1433.jpg)
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WHAT A DAY!!!
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Extend Gard!!!!
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Ty JMU.
Will Gard write a letter to the refs? What an asinine comment during the 1st half.
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Glorious Day!!! Everybody hoist one!!
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It may not look like it but he's pleased.
(https://allthingsliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/James-Madison-by-Sharples-1170x1433.jpg)
5 feet, 4 inches. :)
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C416UbpAdhm/?igsh=OGNlZmZiajRyOHhl
Pft saying what we all want to say
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Klemsit is on one of his heaters.
If only he had hit another dozen 3s, the Weasels woulda lost by only 6.
Anyway, as you like to say, the Weasels “always find a way to get it done.”
That explains their 10 straight national titles!
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Gard gets it done
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Gard gets it done
In December
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Duke will beat JMU by 20.
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Damn, there are ton of people wanting UW to fire Gard. I hope this doesn’t catch on.
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The Lopes up 7.
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Ok, the Badger “fans” really giving Wahl a “don’t let the door hit you in the way out” send off on Twitter. I assume he was the worst player to ever play basketball for the Badgers based on what they are saying.
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Ok, the Badger “fans” really giving Wahl a “don’t let the door hit you in the way out” send off on Twitter. I assume he was the worst player to ever play basketball for the Badgers based on what they are saying.
He was pretty clearly limited by the injury in that game.
Hard to believe after an Ebola, COVID, and Monkeypox year he's finally done.
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Ok, the Badger “fans” really giving Wahl a “don’t let the door hit you in the way out” send off on Twitter. I assume he was the worst player to ever play basketball for the Badgers based on what they are saying.
Terrible fan base when it comes to their players. By some. Loudest always make it seem like there are more. Wahl was bad last year but injured. Obviously injured again. He was pretty good for most of the year. That anger should be directed at AJ Storr
Sadly, I can see this by certain fans here.
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Tyson Grant Foster is a freaking stud for the Lopes.
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Sigh Gard to a lifetime contract! He’s a Badger through and through.
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Sigh Gard to a lifetime contract! He’s a Badger through and through.
Badger fans on Twitter say Shaka, Sean Miller, or Dusty May.
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Several frauds gone, including Weasels, BYU and FAU.
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Badger fans on Twitter say Shaka, Sean Miller, or Dusty May.
Shaka pulling a Buzz? Please. He ain’t taking a step down.
Better Dead, than Red.
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Several frauds gone, including Weasels, BYU and FAU.
Love it when the frauds go home.
Rodents, take the bus back to WI.
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Shaka pulling a Buzz? Please. He ain’t taking a step down.
Better Dead, than Red.
That's what UW fans on Twitter are clamoring for.
Pretty sure they have football too last I checked.
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Tyson Grant Foster is a freaking stud for the Lopes.
DePaul might have actually been okay if Grant Foster was healthy when they had him
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DePaul might have actually been okay if Grant Foster was healthy when they had him
I didn't realize he was at DePaul.
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I didn't realize he was at DePaul.
Two years ago, he played 15 minutes in the first half of his first game with DePaul and then collapsed in the locker room at halftime. He needed two separate heart surgeries and 16 months of recovery during which he transferred to GCU.
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Two years ago, he played 15 minutes in the first half of his first game with DePaul and then collapsed in the locker room at halftime. He needed two separate heart surgeries and 16 months of recovery during which he transferred to GCU.
Wow. I honestly don’t remember hearing about this at all.
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That's the type of game that would really frustrate me about Gard. They clearly were unprepared for what JMU was going to bring, and despite having an experienced backcourt, looked like a bunch of first-years out there. Because to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with JMU except for their effort. Duke is probably going to roll them.
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That's the type of game that would really frustrate me about Gard. They clearly were unprepared for what JMU was going to bring, and despite having an experienced backcourt, looked like a bunch of first-years out there. Because to be honest, I wasn't all that impressed with JMU except for their effort. Duke is probably going to roll them.
I can see Duke having some similar issues with the hard doubles, but unless JMU shoots it a ton better I don't see another upset.
The league is also a factor. They haven't played that aggressive of a defense in terms of doubling and switching since they played MU in December.
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I can see Duke having some similar issues with the hard doubles, but unless JMU shoots it a ton better I don't see another upset.
The league is also a factor. They haven't played that aggressive of a defense in terms of doubling and switching since they played MU in December.
Yeah the league is a factor, but then you have your four year PG saying this.
https://x.com/TheBadgerNation/status/1771395509959160294?s=20
Even a remote bit of scouting would tell you this is how JMU plays. And I am sure that Gard knew they couldn't get into a track meet with these guys, but that's exactly what they did. I said multiple times "Wisconsin needs to slow down," and they didn't until it was too late.
Anyway, I know JMU is better than WKU, but compare the difference between how both teams came out after halftime. MU put the hammer down, UW continued to struggle.
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I don't think JMU played particularly well offensively. They could definitely give Duke probs.
Who ya got today today in the Creighton/Oregon game? I hope I'm wrong but I think the Jays have a major challenge. Dante is terrific. He erases the paint and has an intimidating presence.
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Yeah the league is a factor, but then you have your four year PG saying this.
https://x.com/TheBadgerNation/status/1771395509959160294?s=20
Even a remote bit of scouting would tell you this is how JMU plays. And I am sure that Gard knew they couldn't get into a track meet with these guys, but that's exactly what they did. I said multiple times "Wisconsin needs to slow down," and they didn't until it was too late.
Anyway, I know JMU is better than WKU, but compare the difference between how both teams came out after halftime. MU put the hammer down, UW continued to struggle.
Fluffy, they didn't intentionally get into a track meet. They couldn't bring the ball up the floor and looked like a rec team.
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JMU should have won by 30. That was a terrible game by Wisconsin.
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JMU should have won by 30. That was a terrible game by Wisconsin.
Gard forgot how to work the refs. He was too busy preparing.
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Love me some reading of the Greg Gard old guard types defending him to the people wanting him fired :)
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Fluffy, they didn't intentionally get into a track meet. They couldn't bring the ball up the floor and looked like a rec team.
That is true but there were plenty of time early when UW tried to run with them. Played right into their hands.
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Love me some reading of the Greg Gard old guard types defending him to the people wanting him fired :)
They are in purgatory with Gard at the helm. Does just good enough not to get fired. Best case scenario for their program is that they lose a few good players to the portal, bottom out next year, pull the plug on Gard, and get a fresh start in 2025-2026. Alternatively, they could pull the plug now and be competing almost immediately like we did with Shaka, but probably not very realistic after getting a 5 seed this year.
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They are in purgatory with Gard at the helm. Does just good enough not to get fired. Best case scenario for their program is that they lose a few good players to the portal, bottom out next year, pull the plug on Gard, and get a fresh start in 2025-2026. Alternatively, they could pull the plug now and be competing almost immediately like we did with Shaka, but probably not very realistic after getting a 5 seed this year.
All that matters is what the money folks want done in Madison. They’ll be making the decision. If they tell Mac the well is going to dry up a bit, Gard will be gone.
Also, I’m not entirely sure who the obvious replacement is. It’ll certainly be outside the family. There ain’t anyone falling off the Bo tree. They’ll clamor for Otzelberger but if he takes a job in-state, it’s far more likely it would be Marquette. Just because he’s from Wisconsin doesn’t mean he has much affinity for that program.
Based on Dusty May being the hot candidate this off-season, be careful what you wish for
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That is true but there were plenty of time early when UW tried to run with them. Played right into their hands.
That's fair. Wisky's/Gard's biggest prob is that while they generally wanted to play with more tempo, and their offense could be dynamic at times, their defense was a dumpster 🔥.
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All that matters is what the money folks want done in Madison. They’ll be making the decision. If they tell Mac the well is going to dry up a bit, Gard will be gone.
Also, I’m not entirely sure who the obvious replacement is. It’ll certainly be outside the family. There ain’t anyone falling off the Bo tree. They’ll clamor for Otzelberger but if he takes a job in-state, it’s far more likely it would be Marquette. Just because he’s from Wisconsin doesn’t mean he has much affinity for that program.
Based on Dusty May being the hot candidate this off-season, be careful what you wish for
Chris Collins?
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Chris Collins?
Same guy
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My Chaos Big Board for Badger Coaching candidates:
1. Tony Bennett soft landing a la Shaka at Texas. A National Championship but very underwhelming since. Badgers stay aesthetically the same.
2. Kim English just to watch Providence burn to the ground.
3. Bruce Pearl, but selling your soul to the devil is required.
4. Chris Holtmann...HAHA, just kidding.
5. Jeff Gard, Greg's younger brother but having a good run at UW-Platteville. Could be the next Bo Ryan
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My Chaos Big Board for Badger Coaching candidates:
1. Tony Bennett soft landing a la Shaka at Texas. A National Championship but very underwhelming since. Badgers stay aesthetically the same.
2. Kim English just to watch Providence burn to the ground.
3. Bruce Pearl, but selling your soul to the devil is required.
4. Chris Holtmann...HAHA, just kidding.
5. Jeff Gard, Greg's younger brother but having a good run at UW-Platteville. Could be the next Bo Ryan
So glad I have finished my coffee, or I would have spilled it on myself. ;D ;D
Thanks. This is great!
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Tony is more likely to retire in the next 3 years than change jobs.
If they don't want a big stylistic change Moser would be the guy.
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Tony is more likely to retire in the next 3 years than change jobs.
If they don't want a big stylistic change Moser would be the guy.
The Virginia fans blaming their academic standards as why Bennett can’t get transfers would help him transition to UW-Madison.
I don’t think he’d actually ever be a candidate, anyway. The money people of Madison will want a radical system change. Nate Oats would be way more likely than Bennett
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Tony is more likely to retire in the next 3 years than change jobs.
If they don't want a big stylistic change Moser would be the guy.
I don’t know why anyone would sign up for that putrid offense Bennett runs every year that produces multiple games in the 40’s.
He’s a good. but very flawed coach as evidenced by his one championship and first ever loss to a 16 seed.
I used to think he’d be a home run hire for any program. Not anymore.
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And Storr is likely moving on for a better NIL deal. 2 different colleges and 3 high schools in the past 5 years. Dude likely packs lightly.
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And Storr is likely moving on for a better NIL deal. 2 different colleges and 3 high schools in the past 5 years. Dude likely packs lightly.
First round pick in the NBA Draft, I’ve been told here.
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I think when they move on from Gard, they will drop the Platteville Posse and move on to something completely different.
And no, it won't be Tony Bennett.
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First round pick in the NBA Draft, I’ve been told here.
He might be. Had an awful game but this is a very weak draft. I could see him going in the 1st rd.
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I wonder if Lamont Paris would be a candidate. He was an assistant there for 7 years and has spent most of his career in the Midwest.
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Storr is much more likely to go undrafted than be a first round pick this year. He really doesnt do anything well other than create decent looks on offense when he is iso'd, and that is the last thing NBA teams care about when looking for guys who can actually impact a game.
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I wonder if Lamont Paris would be a candidate. He was an assistant there for 7 years and has spent most of his career in the Midwest.
He just signed a huge renewal contract a week ago.
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Storr is much more likely to go undrafted than be a first round pick this year. He really doesnt do anything well other than create decent looks on offense when he is iso'd, and that is the last thing NBA teams care about when looking for guys who can actually impact a game.
I very well could be wrong but I disagree with you. The NBA draft is just as much potential based as it is skill.
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But Gard isn't going anywhere now. A B10 final and #5 seed isn't fireable by any means.
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He might be. Had an awful game but this is a very weak draft. I could see him going in the 1st rd.
It’s extremely rare for a known prospect to go from not in mock drafts at all going into the NCAA Tournament, have a terrible one and done performance in the Tourney, and end up a first round pick. He’s not going to be that.
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But Gard isn't going anywhere now. A B10 final and #5 seed isn't fireable by any means.
Yup. That’s why Paris will be in play when they move on from Gard.
I hope Gard gets a lifetime contract.
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He just signed a huge renewal contract a week ago.
Smart move, they were very overrated this season. Good time to cash in.
That being said, it no matter. Gard isn't getting fired this season.
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Their football and hockey hires were successful coaches from outside the program with no prior connection to UW. I fully expect if McIntosh is still the athletic director, that they will hire the best candidate they can get regardless of history.
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https://x.com/LongwoodLancers/status/1771386049367044192?s=20
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Agree with Rico that JMU didn't even play particularly well, especially on offense, and should have won by more. The Weasels were THAT bad and THAT unprepared. What an indictment on nolongerwarriors' favorite coach.
Agree with wades about Storr. For one thing, he can't shoot from distance. For another, he can't play PG. The NBA isn't excited about players his size who can do neither. He's an OK college player when he can get to his spots in an iso game. When faced with tough D, he's effed. And when he isn't scoring, he disinterested on the defensive end. He's your classic coach-killer.
Storr will enjoy another year scoring 15-17 per game for another school that will get him more NIL but that ultimately will wish they hadn't bothered with him.
IIRC, there was a little angst here from a few Scoopers when the Weasels got him and we didn't get somebody like him. Thank effen goodness he was a hard pass for Shaka.
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But Gard isn't going anywhere now. A B10 final and #5 seed isn't fireable by any means.
Just like Wojo was not getting fired. And just like Chryst was not getting fired.
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Dayton in trouble early.
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Just like Wojo was not getting fired. And just like Chryst was not getting fired.
It could happen, but I'd be surprised. Wojo was coming off an under .500 year. Gard was in the BTT Championship and a 5 seed.
If they miss the tourney next year, I could see him being let go.
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Just like Wojo was not getting fired. And just like Chryst was not getting fired.
Those saying Wojo wasn't getting fired were correct 6/7 years and most switched for year 7.
College basketball coaches who make the NCAAT don't get fired unless they work for Texas. Not saying it's right, but it's what's played out historically.
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I don't think JMU played particularly well offensively. They could definitely give Duke probs.
Who ya got today today in the Creighton/Oregon game? I hope I'm wrong but I think the Jays have a major challenge. Dante is terrific. He erases the paint and has an intimidating presence.
Agree, I didn't know anything about Oregon until I saw a piece on their center. I think Creighton has similar potential to us but they have such a rough draw. Especially compared to us. If they get by Oregon and Tenn? Kudos to them! They'll be primed for the final 4. Im holding out hope for a 3 BE team finals.
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Very physical 1st game. Difficult to officiate. It's unfortunate JTY got hurt because I really think he could help us in certain match-ups.
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Why on God's Green Earth were the first two games on tv today in SLC and back to back?? Makes zero sense.
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Why on God's Green Earth were the first two games on tv today in SLC and back to back?? Makes zero sense.
What CBS wants, CBS gets.
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What CBS wants, CBS gets.
So we can listen to Barkley? Who probably watches 5 college basketball games a year? Smh.
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Pretty sleepy game with Gonzaga vs. Kansas despite the fast pace. Or maybe it's just Brad Nessler.
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Pretty sleepy game with Gonzaga vs. Kansas despite the fast pace. Or maybe it's just Brad Nessler.
We must be watching different games.
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Pretty sleepy game with Gonzaga vs. Kansas despite the fast pace. Or maybe it's just Brad Nessler.
Teal?
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Why on God's Green Earth were the first two games on tv today in SLC and back to back?? Makes zero sense.
Been doing it this way for several years on Sat and Sun of opening week. CBS gets exclusive coverage in the afternoon, and then a bunch of games are on in the evening. It's OK for you not to like it, but it's simply the way it is.
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Zags are rollin.
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Say what you want about the Zags, and Few never getting the chip, but if they win today that will be nine straight S16's.
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Always a good day when KU and Bill Self get their asses handed to them. :)
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Say what you want about the Zags, and Few never getting the chip, but if they win today that will be nine straight S16's.
It's an impressive, enviable run.
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It's an impressive, enviable run.
Money in the bank - Gonzalo to reach S16.
And let’s face it. There are a slew of mid-majors that could roll this Kansas team.
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Say what you want about the Zags, and Few never getting the chip, but if they win today that will be nine straight S16's.
I still think they were seeded too high, but they got a break with McCullers being out.
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I still think they were seeded too high, but they got a break with McCullers being out.
There's no such player on the Kansas roster.
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Always a good day when KU and Bill Self get their asses handed to them. :)
Absolutely!!!
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There's no such player on the Kansas roster.
::) ::) ::)
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I still think they were seeded too high, but they got a break with McCullers being out.
True but they still throttled them and Self had 0.0 answers. Do I think they win with McCullar? Ummm.....no.
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True but they still throttled them and Self had 0.0 answers. Do I think they win with McCullar? Ummm.....no.
Eh...they needed a basket and no one could get them one and they started pressing. I definitely could have seen them having a much better second half with him in the line-up.
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Eh...they needed a basket and no one could get them one and they started pressing. I definitely could have seen them having a much better second half with him in the line-up.
Better? Yes. Would have they won? No. McCullar is not exactly a Curryor Wade type player.
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This next one is a toughie. Normally I would root for a 9 seed and automatically against UNC. However, I have come to really despise Izzo and Hubert Davis seems pretty likable.
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Better? Yes. Would have they won? No. McCullar is not exactly a Curryor Wade type player.
They were winning at half.
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They were winning at half.
Which means literally nothing.
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Which means literally nothing.
Of course it does. It means that they had the ability to hang with another team without their leading scorer. You don't think having him wouldn't have made a difference in the second half?
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Of course it does. It means that they had the ability to hang with another team without their leading scorer. You don't think having him wouldn't have made a difference in the second half?
Fluffy, was the game over yesterday when WKU lead us by 7 at the half. Could it be Gonzaga woke up in the 2H?
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Fluffy, was the game over yesterday when WKU lead us by 7 at the half. Could it be Gonzaga woke up in the 2H?
So your theory is that Kansas missing their leading scorer in a game they were leading by one at half was irrelevant to the outcome?
That's not a real smart basketball thought.
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The Runnin' Izzos are spankin' the Heels.
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They were missing their All American. There’s no way to know if they could’ve won. But McCullar was their best offensive and defensive player. And for a team that was 5 deep with him, that’s an even bigger blow.
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The heck with the stoopid MSU-NC game. Go turn on ESPNU!
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They were missing their All American. There’s no way to know if they could’ve won. But McCullar was their best offensive and defensive player. And for a team that was 5 deep with him, that’s an even bigger blow.
Yeah, but Muggs doesn't think his loss was relevant to the outcome. ::)
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Yikes.
https://x.com/BryanDFischer/status/1771660056305479902?s=20
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Yikes.
https://x.com/BryanDFischer/status/1771660056305479902?s=20
So, therefore, Muggs was correct. :)
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Yikes.
https://x.com/BryanDFischer/status/1771660056305479902?s=20
Man, he's really rised up the unlikable rankings with the Adidas scandal and other things.
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Yikes.
https://x.com/BryanDFischer/status/1771660056305479902?s=20
If I were a current player with them I’d feel really motivated to take my talents elsewhere
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If I were a current player with them I’d feel really motivated to take my talents elsewhere
Exactly right.
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Clones crapping the bed early.
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The Runnin' Izzos are spankin' the Heels.
Am I seeing things?? :)
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Kinda been wondering why Kyle Smith isn't rising to the top of more of these coaching search discussions. He's really the one that built up San Francisco (not Todd Golden), and his work at Washington State has been pretty amazing. Have actually been wondering if he might go across the state to Washington.
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Man, he's really rised up the unlikable rankings with the Adidas scandal and other things.
He and Dickinson deserved each other.
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Kinda been wondering why Kyle Smith isn't rising to the top of more of these coaching search discussions. He's really the one that built up San Francisco (not Todd Golden), and his work at Washington State has been pretty amazing. Have actually been wondering if he might go across the state to Washington.
I agree. He has done an terrific job. UW would be fortunate to get him.
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NC State looking good. It’s early.
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Thanks for playing, Sparty. The door is over there.
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Izzo’s game plan was brilliant. Another March masterclass
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It probably involved Hoggard making shots.
This year's Sparty team has puzzled and frustrated me from game 1. Never gelled, never got consistent shooting, freshmen never really emerged.
Should have hit the portal.
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Thanks for playing, Sparty. The door is over there.
Good riddance.
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I'll be rooting for Duq but assuming Illinois wins, Iowa St/Illinois will be really interesting.
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Thanks for playing, Sparty. The door is over there.
Let us get the door for you. Oh no, we won't slam on you as you walk out, trust us.
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I'll be rooting for Duq but assuming Illinois wins, Iowa St/Illinois will be really interesting.
I’m at the Omaha games and Illinois is big - I think their size will wear down Duquesne. And say what you want about Shannon, he’s really good.
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I’m at the Omaha games and Illinois is big - I think their size will wear down Duquesne. And say what you want about Shannon, he’s really good.
I agree with you.
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Burns is massive and highly skilled. Oakland hanging tough though.
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UNC continues to be my choice to win The Tournament . Bacot and RJ are talented and experienced and their role players are solid
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Are the teams that play Thur/Sat or Fri/Sun guaranteed to be on the same schedule for next weekend?
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I’m at the Omaha games and Illinois is big - I think their size will wear down Duquesne. And say what you want about Shannon, he’s really good.
Good at what
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Are the teams that play Thur/Sat or Fri/Sun guaranteed to be on the same schedule for next weekend?
No. But the South is Friday / Sunday.
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Man. Oakland and NC State are not very good.
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Has the Oakland coach ever looked for a bigger job?
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When we get past Colorado we should absolutely smoke either of these teams
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Has the Oakland coach ever looked for a bigger job?
Think he was offered bigger gigs but not big enough to get him to pull the trigger.
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I agree ^
Win tomorrow, and MU should crush
Oak or NC ST . I mean … Oak barely beat UWM to win Horizon
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Burns is massive and highly skilled. Oakland hanging tough though.
Burns can barely make it up and down the court at times.
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Burns can barely make it up and down the court at times.
The young man is exhausted. I'd like to have him on my security crew. :)
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The young man is exhausted. I'd like to have him on my security crew. :)
I prefer my security crew to be all 5'6" or smaller. Makes me look bigger so no one wants to mess with me.
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I prefer my security crew to be all 5'6" or smaller. Makes me look bigger so no one wants to mess with me.
Lol.
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NC State’s zone offense is just terrible.
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Yes it hit NC State players finger but Oakland player still had his hand on it after tip
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NC State’s zone offense is just terrible.
It's not good.
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Neither team is very good. Need to take advantage of this draw, and tomorrow is the big one.
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Yes it hit NC State players finger but Oakland player still had his hand on it after tip
Announcers seemed shocked but it was pretty obvious.
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That was just a crazy call.
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Well that was an amazingly bad call.
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Scoop would be shut down if we were on the backside of either of those calls
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Well that was an amazingly bad call.
Perhaps the worst I've ever seen.
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Which calls were bad? The out of bounds to end regulation was clearly off Oakland. Still well in the Oakland guy’s hand after the NC State tip.
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I’m not sure which call you guys are saying is bad or crazy, but I’m assuming the inbounds pass that was tipped by Oakland never had possession so it wasn’t an over and back
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I’m not sure which call you guys are saying is bad or crazy, but I’m assuming the inbounds pass that was tipped by Oakland never had possession so it wasn’t an over and back
Correct. Scoop, the announcers, and all of CBB on Twitter were wrong.
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Why would you leave a three point shooter to guard someone who was already double teamed?
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I’m not sure which call you guys are saying is bad or crazy, but I’m assuming the inbounds pass that was tipped by Oakland never had possession so it wasn’t an over and back
Ah yeah. Didn’t even think about that. I assume (which is why, I assume, it was not called), that you need full possession of the ball on the inbound. The tip doesn’t matter. You can throw it into the backcourt.
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Which calls were bad? The out of bounds to end regulation was clearly off Oakland. Still well in the Oakland guy’s hand after the NC State tip.
Color me confused also on what call's were supposedly bad. Didn't see anything obviously wrong.
Sadly, Oakland ran out of gas.
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Burns made every big play for NC State. Give the young man credit.
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Are you telling me that Lampman is better than Rocket Watts? Why is he in?
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Color me confused also on what call's were supposedly bad. Didn't see anything obviously wrong.
Sadly, Oakland ran out of gas.
It didn’t help that Lappas had no idea what the rule was.
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Oakland shouldn't have muffed up the play in the last 12 seconds of regulation.
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Oakland shouldn't have muffed up the play in the last 12 seconds of regulation.
Should not have called a TO there. NC State was in their heels.
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What is DJ's actual weight?
A) 300
B) 310
C) 315
D) 325
E) 340
:)
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Is Casey Morsell related to Darryl?
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Bring on the fat bastard! We gonna run him outta the gym.
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Why would you leave a three point shooter to guard someone who was already double teamed?
Happened twice in overtime. Double Burns and he passes outside, usually from the low block, but last one was from way outside. Burns is an awesome passer. Big error from Oakland who imploded in overtime. Two man team, they were beat up tired.
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Bring on the fat bastard! We gonna run him outta the gym.
Gotta get there first.
Also, sounds like a decent dude.
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Bring on the fat bastard! We gonna run him outta the gym.
Yesssssss!!!!!
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Gotta get there first.
Also, sounds like a decent dude.
I’m sure he is. He ain’t gonna be able to keep up with us.
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What is DJ's actual weight?
A) 300
B) 310
C) 315
D) 325
E) 340
:)
Theo was 250. Gardner was '290', but shorter. I use those as references.
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NC State's coach needs to lay off the Botox.
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Is Casey Morsell related to Darryl?
No…I checked. Both from Maryland, but apparently not related.
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Bring on the fat bastard! We gonna run him outta the gym.
One game at a time. But he'll have ample rest.
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I’m sure he is. He ain’t gonna be able to keep up with us.
We’re a lot better than NC State. But we have to get to NC State to be able to run them out of the gym.
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Theo was 250. Gardner was '290', but shorter. I use those as references.
He's significantly bigger than Davante. I'm going with E Tower.
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We’re a lot better than NC State. But we have to get to NC State to be able to run them out of the gym.
I’m amazed you think I don’t understand that.
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No…I checked. Both from Maryland, but apparently not related.
Correct, not brothers Daryl from Baltimore and Casey is from Ft Washington, PG County, DC suburbs.
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He's significantly bigger than Davante. I'm going with E Tower.
…but light on his feet, hey
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Just amazed a guy that over weight can run up and down the floor More than 5 minutes without gasping for air
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Just amazed a guy that over weight can run up and down the floor More than 5 minutes without gasping for air
Do you not remember Gardner?
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Thought for sure I'd return to this thread with a litany of new posts fretting a potential NC State match-up in the S16.
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I remember being excited about Aidoo.
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…but light on his feet, hey
Viper,
The young man is heavy, but most here are not recognizing his talent. If we're fortunate enough to take out Colorado, the Eats in Dallas could distract D.J.
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I remember being excited about Aidoo.
He’s a grown ass man.
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No one is denying his talent, Muggsy. Like Davante, he is a very effective one trick pony. Passes a little better than Gardner.
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Do you not remember Gardner?
Fair but even he didn’t have the gut this wolf pack dude has
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:-[hi
No one is denying his talent, Muggsy. Like Davante, he is a very effective one trick pony. Passes a little better than Gardner.
Maybe he's one dimensional but that "one trick" has led to 7 straight wins including dispatching UNC. He's a very good offensive player.
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It didn’t help that Lappas had no idea what the rule was.
Lappas is a moron
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:-[hi
Maybe he's one dimensional but that "one trick" has led to 7 straight wins including dispatching UNC. He's a very good offensive player.
Nobody is arguing otherwise.
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Nobody is arguing otherwise.
Okay. I think it's pretty amazing what he does at that weight.
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We don't need a perfect game to beat NC State by a long shot. Just be consistent. The huge guy will get some sure. But a decent, not great MU effort beats them.
But Colorado first right? Can't wait till game time tomorrow.
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Have a feeling Oregon is going to destroy creighton
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The battle of the orange is bending rim bendingly bad from 3. Currently a combined 5-33.
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Have a feeling Oregon is going to destroy creighton
Oregon is scary with Dante.
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The battle of the orange is bending rim bendingly bad from 3. Currently a combined 5-33.
TN 1-20. Yikes.
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Stunned thatTexas has a shot.
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Oregon is scary with Dante.
Quit making the mistake of underselling Creighton.
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Quit making the mistake of underselling Creighton.
I'm not.
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Have a feeling Oregon is going to destroy creighton
Why? Have been conducting the Creighton is overrated train all year, but also have been conducting the Creighton got a great draw for the second year in a row train since the bracket was released. Oregon has not been a good basketball team this year.
(Creighton was a much better team last year than this year, though.)
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TN 1-20. Yikes.
And yet they still kept shooting open ones. Weird. Hit 2 in a row.
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Good at what
Overcoming adversity or something
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Wow what a block.
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Ow.
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Shaka ran Jonas Aidoo off
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Shaka ran Jonas Aidoo off
Ran Gainey off, who ran Aidoo off to TN, plus brought Justin into TN.
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Not an intelligent shot by Abmus.
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Thank goodness Wojo got Stevie instead of Hunter. Supposed ball knowers wanted Hunter over Mitchell.
😂😂😂😂
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So clutch from Knecht.
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Let’s go Creighton. Complete the 3-team money line parlay so I can win $18.
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Tennessee stayed Knecht-ed in the last few seconds
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Cousinard is torching Creighton. They might want to guard him and shoot better than 4-20 from distance.
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Cousinard is torching Creighton. They might want to guard him and shoot better than 4-20 from distance.
And yet, they’re still leading.
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And yet, they’re still leading.
They're getting wide open shots.
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Confident Creighton is going to win.
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Let’s go Creighton. Complete the 3-team money line parlay so I can win $18.
praying 4 u
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Confident Creighton is going to win.
I hope you're right VBMG.
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Cousinsard is sort of like a smaller Demar DeRozen.
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Ashworth is killing the Jays. Wide open bricks.
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Creighton missing bunnies.
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Sweet Jesus. The Jays better wake up.
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Can anyone smarter than me with Xs and Os explain how Oregon has stymied the Creighton offense? I can tell there’s just no space on the floor, but can’t figure out what the defensive strategy is to do it. Seems like pressure is coming from everywhere.
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Creighton looks lethargic.
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This is ugly. Creighton can't score. And Oregon's two best players have been relentless.
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Not sure about that call.
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Yikes. That kid has some ups.
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Add that to the video montage of the defensive POY in the Big East getting posterized
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Creighton lives and dies by the threes, and in this second half they are dying.
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BIzarre game.
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I agree they live on the long range shooting but usually their ball movement is much better than this.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Wow
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I agree they live on the long range shooting but usually their ball movement is much better than this.
They've done a poor job vs this zone. Kalky has been non-existent in the 2H. But hopefully they find a way in overtime.
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Wow.
Wow.
Wow
Wow.
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Oregon even walks the ball up the court in a tie game with 9 seconds left.
What a boring game for an overtime game.
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They've done a poor job vs this zone. Kalky has been non-existent in the 2H. But hopefully they find a way in overtime.
DPOY my ass.
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Good thing they started the SLC games at 10:45 AM local time so games in the East could go past midnight.
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Find myself really rooting for the fellow BE birds in this one. Screw the Pac12 birds
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Big shot by Alexander.
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Good thing they started the SLC games at 10:45 AM local time so games in the East could go past midnight.
Ya.....I didn't get that.
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Holy crap. That's too good.
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Oregon even walks the ball up the court in a tie game with 9 seconds left.
What a boring game for an overtime game.
This game is anything but boring. Tough audience.
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What a game
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If you're Creighton in Double OT don't you just deny Cousinard the ball or immediately double?
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This game is anything but boring. Tough audience.
The only thing exciting about it is it’s close. It’s not good basketball. Unless you like watching a lot of missed shots. Then it’s great hoops.
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Cousinard has absolutely zero left in the tank but still keeps scoring, insanity
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If you're Creighton in Double OT don't you just deny Cousinard the ball or immediately double?
Yep.
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Couisnard is 25 years old. Sixth year in college. Maybe that should be the new recruiting strategy for Coach Cal.
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Another example of a college team waiting too long to get into a last shot. Alexander started with a little over 6 seconds 25’ from the hoop. Should have started with about 12 seconds.
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Nothing more exciting than watching a team stand still until 9 seconds left on the shot clock.
Good thing for Oregon is they continue to leave Baylor Scheyerman on Couisnard. Is Trey Alexander unable to take that matchup for some reason?
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LOL
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Huge 3 by Kalkbrenner.
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Great game. CR has got it.
Oregon so tough
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Whew. BEast will move to 4-0.
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Creighton -4.5 might end up being the most improbable cover I’ve had this tournament.
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Don't have a video stream so listening to CR radio stream. They are mad men. If you think Homer is a homer. These guys are a factor worse
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Great game! Kalkbrenner with the big FU 3 pointer. Ashworth earned his schollie and NIL tonight.
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praying 4 u
#blessed
I hope you're right VBMG.
Never a doubt.
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Creighton/Tenn will be a good one.
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Impressive resilience by Creighton. They really were on the ropes for almost all of regulation
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Two Jesuit schools in the Sweet 16. Let’s make it three!
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Ashworth must have read my posts during the time-outs. :)
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Nothing more exciting than watching a team stand still until 9 seconds left on the shot clock.
Good thing for Oregon is they continue to leave Baylor Scheyerman on Couisnard. Is Trey Alexander unable to take that matchup for some reason?
Couisnard was lighting Trey Alexander up in the first half.
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Cous ran out of gas. I have a lot of respect for that guy.
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Creighton -4.5 might end up being the most improbable cover I’ve had this tournament.
Nice hit.
I went to winners circle in Indy and took an alternate line at -9.5 for Creighton pretty heavy.
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good, as they say.
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Texas A&M +10.5 looks like a pretty nice line to put some money on
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It sounds like Storr is gone from UW. Either NBA Draft of another transfer.
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It sounds like Storr is gone from UW. Either NBA Draft of another transfer.
What are you hearing and from where?
With what they have returning the Badgers might be better off without him. Lots of raw talent but doesn’t seem to fit the style they want to play.
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It sounds like Storr is gone from UW. Either NBA Draft of another transfer.
I can't see NBA for him with his defensive profile. Really crafty scorer but seems limited athletically. He can't guard down a position and from the games I've watched, doesn't really guard up.
Reminds me a little of a poor man's Alando Tucker
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What are you hearing and from where?
With what they have returning the Badgers might be better off without him. Lots of raw talent but doesn’t seem to fit the style they want to play.
My Madison friends said that he was "noncommittal" in an exit interview.
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Texas A&M +10.5 looks like a pretty nice line to put some money on
Went 6-2 yesterday after an average Thursday and a rough Friday
MU, A&M, Purdue, SDSU, UConn today. Lean GCU. Probably Baylor but I haven’t seen one minute of Clemson basketball.
Zero idea on Duke JMU
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Now that we're done this week, time to enjoy others tense drama. What do we got this afternoon. What's the best game, the nail biter, the blowout, the upset?
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Utah St.?
I was thinking of having a cocktail or two.......any suggestions? :)
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Utah St.?
I was thinking of having a cocktail or two.......any suggestions? :)
Gin martini or Manhattan
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Let’s go Aggies
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BEast btw:
W
W
W
W
W
:)
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Let’s go Aggies
Yes.....Rooting for Buzz and maybe Wade Taylor goes nuclear for the Aggies tonight.
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Ahhhh….time to enjoy a full day of basketball stress free. 😊
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Utah St. is going to have to fight a tough whistle.
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Utah St.?
I was thinking of having a cocktail or two.......any suggestions? :)
I’d go with two.
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The numbers on Purdue's jerseys are oddly small.
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The numbers on Purdue's jerseys are oddly small.
Edey's just that big.
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I’d go with two.
St Bernardus 12 or Orval?
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Went 6-2 yesterday after an average Thursday and a rough Friday
MU, A&M, Purdue, SDSU, UConn today. Lean GCU. Probably Baylor but I haven’t seen one minute of Clemson basketball.
Zero idea on Duke JMU
duke is going down. And rightly so.
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USU already with 6 fouls. 5 drawn by Edey.
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Yes.....Rooting for Buzz and maybe Wade Taylor goes nuclear for the Aggies tonight.
Why would anyone root for the downhome lonesome phony cowboy, the way he slid out of town and left the program in a skid?
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Why would anyone root for the downhome lonesome phony cowboy, the way he slid out of town and left the program in a skid?
Because his team would be easier to beat than Houston.
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Cheering for the Utah State Aggies
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Now that we're done this week, time to enjoy others tense drama. What do we got this afternoon. What's the best game, the nail biter, the blowout, the upset?
A&M and Houston could be a WAR.
I think JMU beats Duke too.
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USU coach is extremely frustrated. 7 fouls in 11 mins for the Aggies.
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Why would anyone root for the downhome lonesome phony cowboy, the way he slid out of town and left the program in a skid?
Because he left how many years ago? I don't care about ex coaches and am not a Wojo, Wojo, Wojo, Wojo, Buzz, Buzz guy. It's regurgitation/nausea thing on this board. AndM taking out Houston would be huge.
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USU came out with a decent game plan, played hard, but this one is over.
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They can't guard Edey at all.
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BTW, really love Stan Van Gundy. Called out Tyler for taking off a possession on the defensive end (he was absolutely correct), and just now said about USU's offense, "are you kidding me?"
A lot of three person booths don't work. This one does.
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BTW, really love Stan Van Gundy. Called out Tyler for taking off a possession on the defensive end (he was absolutely correct), and just now said about USU's offense, "are you kidding me?"
A lot of three person booths don't work. This one does.
If on cue, I forgot about this one.
https://awfulannouncing.com/cbs/stan-van-gundy-colorado-marquette-officiating.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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St Bernardus 12 or Orval?
I am having some St. Bernardus in celebration. Yet, either is an excellent choice.
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USU came out with a decent game plan, played hard, but this one is over.
Went to Culver’s for milkshakes after the game and when I got home USU was ahead 24-23. Based on what I’ve seen I’m not sure how that happened.
Were they given a 15 point handicap?
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Went to Culver’s for milkshakes after the game and when I got home USU was ahead 24-23. Based on what I’ve seen I’m not sure how that happened.
Were they given a 15 point handicap?
Got a ton of open looks early - no longer.
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Went to Culver’s for milkshakes after the game and when I got home USU was ahead 24-23. Based on what I’ve seen I’m not sure how that happened.
Were they given a 15 point handicap?
The foul trouble destroyed any remote chance they had.
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I am having some St. Bernardus in celebration. Yet, either is an excellent choice.
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I went with Orval. Man I love that 🍺.
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Wash it down with some barbecued chicken.
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Flipinowsky of Duke is a thug and has a very kickable groin.
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Flipinowsky of Duke is a thug and has a very kickable groin.
I don't care for the guy either.
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Flipinowsky of Duke is a thug and has a very kickable groin.
You spelled his name wrong.
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You spelled his name wrong.
On purpose numbnuts. Reeker: Always clueless.
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I hope the Duke kid is OK.
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On purpose numbnuts. Reeker: Always clueless.
Why would you spell his name wrong? Is that supposed to be an insult?
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Duke came to play today
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Duke came to play today
On fire early. JMU's best player getting 2 fouls in 2 mins wasn't helpful.
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Duke came to play today
Filipowski is a heckuva player
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Duke came to play today
Duke has better players, and is better coached than Wisconsin. Wisconsin was a dream matchup for JMU.
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Not a good half for JMU.
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Not a good half for JMU.
Bucky’s performance on Friday looking worse by the minute.
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JMU playing at the level of its seed. Duke can’t miss. Too bad.
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Bucky’s performance on Friday looking worse by the minute.
Every game is a different game
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When you get right down to it this year’s tournament has had a relatively low percentage of really entertaining games so far.
And one of the more entertaining finishes came after midnight thanks to their ridiculous scheduling.
CBS should thank MU for giving them at least one good one today.
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Ratings have been big.
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Pretty clear the JMU coach could game plan for UW. With the short turnaround they had little time to prepare for Duke and Duke whistles.
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Bucky’s performance on Friday looking worse by the minute.
Funnier. You meant 'more side splitting belly laugh inducing hysterical.'
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Bucky’s performance on Friday looking worse by the minute.
That's a fun way of looking at this one.
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Yeah this has nothing to do with the whistles. Duke came out and took it to them. They have no answer for Filipowski whatsoever, and UW has no one close to as good.
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Not a good half for JMU.
They did their job.
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Yeah this has nothing to do with the whistles. Duke came out and took it to them. They have no answer for Filipowski whatsoever, and UW has no one close to as good.
McCain and Proctor are the ones killing them in the part of the game I watched. JMU can’t keep them out of the lane without leaving the 3 line open.
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Funnier. You meant 'more side splitting belly laugh inducing hysterical.'
I laughed my ass off at the way the JMU players kept stealing the ball. They were tag teams rather than individuals. Maybe a better description would be gremlins swarming UW players. I think some of the UW players may have suffered whiplash, trying to keep track of where the gremlins attacking next.
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I hope the Duke fans storm the court.
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Baylor oozes talented players. Don’t play very good defense, though
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Grumbling that it's almost 6pm CDT and four of the eight games haven't even tipped yet...seems like the MU game ended yesterday.
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I can't say I foresaw the ACC's success thus far.
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I can't say I foresaw the ACC's success thus far.
Crapshoot
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Crapshoot
How else can you explain Longwood's loss? ;)
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I hoping some of these last rd of 32 games will be better
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Baylor looks terrible, thought them and clemson would be a hell of a game
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How else can you explain Longwood's loss? ;)
Played soft.
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The Lopes need to get it together.
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The Lopes need to get it together.
Bama -5 was surprising to me. Is GCU that good?
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Bama -5 was surprising to me. Is GCU that good?
That stood out to me as well. Though Grand Canyon did look really good in the first round. Grant-Foster is a force.
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Bama -5 was surprising to me. Is GCU that good?
They seem to have some athletes. And Grant is an NBA prospect.
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And this Alabama team is very beatable.
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Haven’t seen Bama defend like this all year
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Fing Baylor looks pathetic. Stupid me for picking them to win this one in my bracket.
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Will the Clemson coach start crying during the postgame interview?
It will have been a much bigger accomplishment than MU eeking out a win against a meh 10 seed.
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UCONN out of the gates quickly.
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UCONN out of the gates quickly.
Good. Blow those clowns out
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Clemson was up 61-46. Now 63-59 with 2:43 left
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Clemson was up 61-46. Now 63-59 with 2:43 left
Going to the line with a chance to tie. 64-66 with 36.2 left
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Going to the line with a chance to tie. 64-66 with 36.2 left
Brick
Brick
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Going to the line with a chance to tie. 64-66 with 36.2 left
FTs matta
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Geez Scoop would be exploding if MU committed the bonehead plays that Clemson has down the stretch.
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Wow was that a dumb shot.
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Brad Brownell is so great.
Probably will get an extension after this year, then go under .500 next year, followed by a NIT bid or two, only to make another NCAA just when his name gets on hot seat lists.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
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Jesus UConn…
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UCONN is breathing fire!
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NW again struggling to get over the point-a-minute pace. Probably won't be able to come back this time.
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Anyone who hadn't already seen this UConn team a few times is getting well acquainted to what we've been dealing with.
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It is their tourney to lose. Always has been. Great team.
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It is their tourney to lose. Always has been. Great team.
They're really good.
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Good. Blow those clowns out
:) UConn, come on, shut the door on Northwestern! Get all 3 Big East teams into the Sweet 16!
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Let's go Lopes.
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:) UConn, come on, shut the door on Northwestern! Get all 3 Big East teams into the Sweet 16!
Amen. Big East Power!
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Uhhhh......UCONN is escorting Northwestern to darkness. Wow.
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We have a screamer near the mic in the Bama GC game. Sounds like a GC fan.
Bama down 2 players, one to injury, one to fouls. GC with a huge opportunity.
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It’s terrible basketball, but a lot of fun!
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Loss of focus by the Lopes.
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Grant -Foster from GCU should be SEEING some interesting NIL opportunities
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Houston and TAMU have a whole different level of rebounding aggressiveness.
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Grant -Foster from GCU should be SEEING some interesting NIL opportunities
Sure looks like he'll be seeing guaranteed NBA contract opportunities.
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GCU is 23 for 37 on free throws with four front end misses. Thats not a good thing.
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Bama made the plays down the stretch.
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Sad finish for the Lopes.
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Nope. The mid major lost to a better team
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Foul discrepancy in the Houston TAMU game is spectacular.
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Grand Canyon gonna be kicking themselves for awhile with the opportunity they had there.
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So unless Yale wins tonight, the only non-power conference school surviving is Gonzaga.
Very chalky second round.
EDIT: San Diego State too, but they’re a 5-seed just like the Zags.
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GCU is 23 for 37 on free throws with four front end misses. Thats not a good thing.
they matter...do the math
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Nope. The mid major lost to a better team
An Antelope's average speed is about 50-60 mph Tower. Pronghorns in particular are tier 1AA athletes with insane endurance. GCU did not live up to their responsibilities. :)
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The Fighting Buzzards are giving Houston all they can handle.
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they matter...do the math
Not really GCU's forte
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they matter...do the math
If they would have shot their normal FT percentage, they still would have lost.
If they would have shot their normal EFG, they win easy.
That’s the math.
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they matter...do the math
FT's matter not based on the black and white analytics. It's about when you make or don't make them. And it's not just at the obvious times like Jop today. If a team is down 8 for example, and their opponent is on a 15-0 run, missing two is like missing 4 or 6. Momentum is not a stat but absolutely plays a roll in the outcome of games.
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FT's matter not based on the black and white analytics. It's about when you make or don't make them. And it's not just at the obvious times like Jop today. If a team is down 8 for example, and their opponent is on a 15-0 run, missing two is like missing 4 or 6. Momentum is not a stat but absolutely plays a roll in the outcome of games.
Do they count as points? If so, they matter.
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I'm sorry, and maybe it's me, but I do not find the TNT NBA crew particularly amusing or interesting with regards to college hoops. I have thought Smith and Barkley were really bad for about a decade.
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Not really GCU's forte
Exactly.
Math majors at CGU? Nope Lopes.
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Do they count as points? If so, they matter.
So if a team is down 10 with 8 mins left in the 2H, and they go to the line and brick 2, you don't think that matters? If they were 14-14 before that it's okay because their percentage for the game is still really good? When you score matters. That's all I'm saying Lwnny.
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That was a terrible charge call against A&M.
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I'm sorry, and maybe it's me, but I do not find the TNT NBA crew particularly amusing or interesting with regards to college hoops. I have thought Smith and Barkley were really bad for about a decade.
It’s you
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Do they count as points? If so, they matter.
Of course they matter in that objective way. The point is they don’t matter nearly as much as many other happenings during a game.
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Of course they matter in that objective way. The point is they don’t matter nearly as much as many other happenings during a game.
I can accept that.
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A&M 11-24 from the line? Yikes.
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A&M 11-24 from the line? Yikes.
Ouch.
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Yale is struggling to put it mildly.
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Hou-Tamu is borderline unwatchable.
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IF the late scores hold the S-16 will deviate from chalk via two-5s, a 6 and an 11. The other 12 teams what you expect. Rounds seem to have a way of winnowing out the seeds.
One good omen is our region's 1 is not pounding their opponent like the others (though Duke looks tough).
Anyway, let's dispatch the last double digit and get on with it.
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Been a dud two rounds minus Marquette to tell you the truth. The S16 match-ups should be much better.
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A and M giving Houston nightmares. Buzz hanging tough. 86-83 Houston with 42 seconds!
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Buzz's bunch gonna have the ball with a chance to tie. 10 seconds left.
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Buzz's bunch gonna have the ball with a chance to tie. 10 seconds left.
Great game……
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Omg!
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Holy sh*t.
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Holy b*lls
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wow
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Wow! Might be good if Houston is out but … wow!
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Foul up 3
Foul up 3
Foul up 3
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Holy Schnike! Total fail by Houston on that last play with 1.2 seconds left.
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Sampson.
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And when you’re inbounding from under the basket with a little over a second left you can’t let someone get that kind of shot.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. Crazy ending for Buzz! And Houston has Cryer out with fouls.
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Wow! Would be epic to play A&M in the Regional Final..and win of course!!!
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The entire Houston starting lineup at risk of fouling out.
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Reminds me of 2013. A truckload of things had to go right for Buzzer in the closing minute...and did.
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Houston was up 12 with 1:50 left.
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Houston was burned by Jordan Poole in 2018.
Did they get struck by lightning again?
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Wow. Some crazy stuff in this game.
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What an absolute moronic foul by Taylor
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A&M 27/43 from the FT line.
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Wade Taylor might be the dumbest player I've ever watched
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I can see why Shead is an AA.
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Taylor takes some extremely stupid shots. kinda guy that can shoot you to victory or right out of the game
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Down 4, with plenty of time left, Taylor jacks up a contested 35 foot jumper.
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Wade Taylor might be the dumbest player I've ever watched
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2 plays that one would have to see to believe.
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Buzz blew it some by not doubling the ball and getting it out of Shead's hands - all of OT. They lost Cryer and Sharp...Shead is their last weapon. How they didn't trap him repeatedly to get it out of his hands is baffling.
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Taking a timeout while your guy is scoring a layup is an interesting strategy.
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If TAMU pulls off another miracle to force double OT, Houston is in trouble. 4 starters, including all 3 star guards, have fouled out.
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Taking a timeout while your guy is scoring a layup is an interesting strategy.
So bizarre. Especially to draw up a play for a 35' jumper.
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So bizarre. Especially to draw up a play for a 35' jumper.
That was bad coaching.
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A&M 27/43 from the FT line.
Free throws don't matter as declared by those who know ball..
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Buzz really outsmarted himself there.
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Sure don’t miss drawn up plays by buzz
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Buzz really outsmarted himself there.
Terrible coaching by Buzz in OT. Just brutal.
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Buzz with some dumb coaching decisions. And Wade Taylor with some dumb playing. Great game though.
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Seems like Buzz was out of it last 2 minutes of OT. But wow …..
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Houston. Survive and advance.
Buzz really bad in OT.
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I'm just going to say this once. I like MU's position. Here is the list of teams I fear:
We can absolutely fking do this!!!
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Buzz with some dumb coaching decisions. And Wade Taylor with some dumb playing. Great game though.
Totally agree El G2.
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I'm just going to say this once. I like MU's position. Here is the list of teams I fear:
We can absolutely fking do this!!!
Agree! Except for UConn. I fear them. Want to play them again for sure. But dang they’re scary.
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Let’s get Oso healthy this week and rock on Friday. Go Marquette!
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Seems like Buzz was out of it last 2 minutes of OT. But wow …..
Mentally in Louisville
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Why?
71 in TRank. 59 in KenPom. 1 Q1/2 (combined) wins. 22 of their wins are Q4.
I was wrong. They were, indeed, no 12 seed. Looked like a 16 seed.
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Mentally in Louisville
Ah yes. An old blast from the past. MU with an 18 point lead with about 7 minutes left at Louisville and Buzz blows it. I still fondly call it the Louisville Meltdown
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Ah yes. An old blast from the past. MU with an 18 point lead with about 7 minutes left at Louisville and Buzz blows it. I still fondly call it the Louisville Meltdown
Why is that fond to you? Seems like something that wouldn’t be a fond memory.
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Ah yes. An old blast from the past. MU with an 18 point lead with about 7 minutes left at Louisville and Buzz blows it. I still fondly call it the Louisville Meltdown
I've sensationalized this enough where it was 18 pts in 4 minutes in my recounting
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A&M and Houston could be a WAR.
I think JMU beats Duke too.
Your Badgers were just that bad. JMU flat out stunk.
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duke is going down. And rightly so.
Good call.
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Mentally in Louisville
naaaahhhhhhhh
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Wow, I went to bed with Houston up double digits and it couldn't have been more than a couple minutes to go. What!?? Glad for YouTube highlights...but still kicking myself for missing that.
Also don't agree with all the buzz hate. He's a decent coach. Better than Wojo and not in the same league as Shaka...but decent.
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My Madison friends said that he was "noncommittal" in an exit interview.
You have UWM friends? Disgusting
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I don't think the inbound pass to the Aggie to hit the game tying three gets enough credit. That was a sidearm bounce pass that while low was right on the money.
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Wow, I went to bed with Houston up double digits and it couldn't have been more than a couple minutes to go. What!?? Glad for YouTube highlights...but still kicking myself for missing that.
Also don't agree with all the buzz hate. He's a decent coach. Better than Wojo and not in the same league as Shaka...but decent.
As a sinner, I went to bed with Wade Taylor only at 6 pts for my needed 15.
Very good morning to wake up to a hit on a +2959 same game parlay.
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Good call.
Hmmm...must be an entitled Duke fan. Sort of like ND fans.
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I don't think the inbound pass to the Aggie to hit the game tying three gets enough credit. That was a sidearm bounce pass that while low was right on the money.
That was simply a spectacular play - unreal how the pass I was executed, and then the shot hits wow
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Hmmm...must be an entitled Duke fan. Sort of like ND fans.
Duke fans should be entitled. Top-5 program. A program to strive for.
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Hmmm...must be an entitled Duke fan. Sort of like ND fans.
I hate Duke. But it was very clear watching the JMU vs. UW game that JMU was not very good.
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I hate Duke. But it was very clear watching the JMU vs. UW game that JMU was not very good.
A few of us said after JMU beat the Weasels that if JMU actually had played well, they'd have won by 25-30.
I admit I was a little surprised that Duke absolutely trounced JMU ... but the narrative that JMU was egregiously underseeded, in large part because they beat a meh Michigan State team, was dopey from the start.
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A few of us said after JMU beat the Weasels that if JMU actually had played well, they'd have won by 25-30.
I admit I was a little surprised that Duke absolutely trounced JMU ... but the narrative that JMU was egregiously underseeded, in large part because they beat a meh Michigan State team, was dopey from the start.
I think JMU did play well, for JMU. They just weren't a good team. They had 22 Q4 wins this year. 1 (prior to Wisconsin) Q1/2 win.
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I hate Duke. But it was very clear watching the JMU vs. UW game that JMU was not very good.
I see. Did not watch that game. Just felt that they whupped Whisky so they should take care of Duke. I was wrong. I hate Duke also. Hate all teams from ACC, because like No Dick, they all think their crap does not stink.
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I see. Did not watch that game. Just felt that they whupped Whisky so they should take care of Duke. I was wrong. I hate Duke also. Hate all teams from ACC, because like No Dick, they all think their crap does not stink.
My crap doesn’t stink
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My crap doesn’t stink
Sorry Reeker. I do not read your posts. Only on occasion when somebody uses it as a quote in their post. But it is good to know that you are always out there commenting on my posts. After all I live rent free in your mind.
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My crap doesn’t stink
Poo-pourri
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Sorry Reeker. I do not read your posts. Only on occasion when somebody uses it as a quote in their post. But it is good to know that you are always out there commenting on my posts. After all I live rent free in your mind.
That’s not true. You just read this. Are you a liar?
If your dung stinks, it’s probably a health or diet problem and I suggest you seek medical attention either way.
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Some fun trivia this afternoon:
-Half the Maui field made the Sweet 16.
-The only Maui team in the NCAAT to miss the S16 was knocked out… by another Maui team.
-Gonzaga has the potential to play another Maui team in 4 straight tournament games. (Crazy coincidence that the committee dumped 4 Maui teams in one region.)
-Purdue’s run to the title game could potentially be identical to their Maui draw: Gonzaga, followed by Tennessee, followed by Marquette.
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Some fun trivia this afternoon:
-Half the Maui field made the Sweet 16.
-The only Maui team in the NCAAT to miss the S16 was knocked out… by another Maui team.
-Gonzaga has the potential to play another Maui team in 4 straight tournament games. (Crazy coincidence that the committee dumped 4 Maui teams in one region.)
-Purdue’s run to the title game could potentially be identical to their Maui draw: Gonzaga, followed by Tennessee, followed by Marquette.
Maui was a great tourney this year. We were fortunate to be part. Hope next year's tourney that MU plays is as good. Are we signed up for next year?
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I think they are hosting their own MTE next year.
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Be careful in Detroit. Gonzaga is there
https://x.com/matthewmaddock/status/1773143040724451761?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Be careful in Detroit. Gonzaga is there
https://x.com/matthewmaddock/status/1773143040724451761?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
And doubles down on it too. Wowww
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And doubles down on it too. Wowww
Hardly surprising. Keep repeating a lie and the mouth breathers will believe it.
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This profile of Ian Eagle is an amazing read.
https://www.theringer.com/college-basketball/2024/3/28/24113986/ian-eagle-march-madness-cbs-announcer
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This profile of Ian Eagle is an amazing read.
https://www.theringer.com/college-basketball/2024/3/28/24113986/ian-eagle-march-madness-cbs-announcer
I was listening to his interview with Tate Frazier and they mentioned this was coming. Eagle seems like a really cool guy.
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And doubles down on it too. Wowww
Quadrupled down actually. In the comments calling people commies
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Caravans!
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Best game of the day is Illinois vs Iowa State.
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Best game of the day is Illinois vs Iowa State.
Think so. Alabama-UNC could be a treat.
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Im hoping Illinois wins. I can see Illinois vs Uconn as a top 3 game of the entire tournament. I also think Illinois has the stars to beat Uconn.
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Im hoping Illinois wins. I can see Illinois vs Uconn as a top 3 game of the entire tournament. I also think Illinois has the stars to beat Uconn.
Why do you want UCONN to lose?
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Why do you want UCONN to lose?
Bc if I am being honest I don’t see Marquette beating them
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Im hoping Illinois wins. I can see Illinois vs Uconn as a top 3 game of the entire tournament. I also think Illinois has the stars to beat Uconn.
Illinois defense isn’t good enough to beat UConn, probably. Might out score them
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Be careful in Detroit. Gonzaga is there
https://x.com/matthewmaddock/status/1773143040724451761?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
It isn't right to criticize. Let him speak his truth.
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It isn't right to criticize. Let him speak his truth.
I use LSD for that
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It isn't right to criticize. Let him speak his truth.
Hear his re-election is funded by the Dental PAC
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Be careful in Detroit. Gonzaga is there
https://x.com/matthewmaddock/status/1773143040724451761?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
He’ll fundraise off this. Worse, magats will gladly contribute.
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These are some head scratching tipoff times today. The west coast game has a 4:00 local time tip and the east coast has a 10:00 local time tip.
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Spaniel … yes ^ … those tip times are ridiculous. 10 pm East Coast time ?
Sheez
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It’s not like there is a ton of flexibility if you want to hit prime time and end by midnight east coast. At best the east coast game like be moved up 20-30mins.
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Az- Clemson game-A LOT of good seats vacant
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Clemson is 341st in the nation in defensive turnover %. Zona has 5 in 10 minutes. 🤔
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Be careful in Detroit. Gonzaga is there
https://x.com/matthewmaddock/status/1773143040724451761?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
I mean, Nembhard is Canadian
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Less than what happened to the Utah women's team.
UConn is a machine.
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Clemson is up 8 at half and I feel like they’ll lose by 15
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ACC continuing their strong tourney.
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Clemson is up 8 at half and I feel like they’ll lose by 15
I was going to post the same thing. AZ will win by double digits.
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Clemson is up 8 at half and I feel like they’ll lose by 15
Clemson (of all places) is trying to screw me out of winning the bracket contest I’m in.
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UConn getting away with a lot of shoving rebounders around
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Clingan with a really bad stretch.
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Clemson (of all places) is trying to screw me out of winning the bracket contest I’m in.
Well, I'm rooting for them because I had Arizona being eliminated by Baylor. So a win for AZ allows others in my pool to gain on me.
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Clingan with a really bad stretch.
UConn make a shot challenge
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Is Clingan drunk?
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Clemson on full tilt
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Clemson on full tilt
Hanging in there.
Wouldn’t want Ballo to do anything but dunk
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Hope this crew doing the Clemson AZ game isn’t doing our game
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Zona draws a foul every possession
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Zona draws a foul every possession
Still can’t get over the hump. Pretty wild game. Clemson making weird shots
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People who think Caleb Love is a All American are legit mental patients
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Arizona won’t win if they don’t score another basket
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Caleb is a classic chucker and this AZ offense is embarrassing
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Arizona won’t win if they don’t score another basket
Clemson has missed a lot of great chances to extend this from 7 too
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ACC is better than I expected. Arizona’s zone offense is all talent based—Jack 3s or drive.
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Clemson has missed a lot of great chances to extend this from 7 too
Arizona shoots 37% from 3 for the season. 19th best in the nation. 3 for 21 tonight. Woof
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Looks like this 6 seed is moving on ....
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PJ Hall trying to single handedly lose Clemson this game.
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ACC is better than I expected. Arizona’s zone offense is all talent based—Jack 3s or drive.
Not sure what conference affiliation has to do with this game
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Arizona picked the wrong night to shoot 15% from three.
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There is a decent chance both teams are trying to lose
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God almighty, zebras, let ‘em play!
The whistles are ruining this game.
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Bad 3pt shooting is killing Arizona, but their zone offense also stinks.
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They are calling everything and Zona keeps jacking up threes.
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Both teams score at will when they go inside.
But they both spent 6 minutes shooting 15 3s each
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Jesus how did Arizona not see that coming, lol
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UConn already with 20 ORBs. Wow
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Can’t put that on Ballo.
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Arizona's D has just been horrific.
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Underdog ACC team taking down a 2 seed.
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The ACC cannot be stopped.
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Pretty pathetic effort by U of A
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Never trust Arizona
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A number 2 gets flushed.
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Underdog ACC team taking down a 2 seed.
Hopefully, that’s their allotment for the tournament.
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I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about the acc. I trashed them all year.
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lol Arizona. Had them in final four so of course they suck completely
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So we have a #6 and a #1 moving on to the EE.
Maybe Bama can somehow find a way to knock out UNC. Would love to see that happen, but not too hopeful.
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I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about the acc. I trashed them all year.
That’s because the league sucked this year. This result doesn’t change that
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Clemson with a great job closing it out.
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UConn with what looks like a C effort up by 25 at the under-4. Going to win their 9th straight NCAA Tournament game by double digits
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Is anybody capable of challenging them?
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UConn blowing SDSU out now. Man, UConn is tough. Only a healthy MU can stop them.
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Is anybody capable of challenging them?
I think they’ll have to play a really bad game
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That’s because the league sucked this year. This result doesn’t change that
Not great for a number of years. Only better than P12.
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UConn has lost to one non-Big East team in the last two seasons. At Kansas.
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UConn with what looks like a C effort up by 25 at the under-4. Going to win their 9th straight NCAA Tournament game by double digits
What were the odds they would win their first three 2024 tournament games by double digits? I would have taken them even money, maybe even as favorites.
We should at least see the possibility of competitive games from here.
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Brownell always coaches himself off the hot seat. Must drive the AD crazy.
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UConn has lost to one non-Big East in the last two seasons. At Kansas.
Without Castle
And had a shot to win or tie(cant remember at the horn)
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Tommy Lloyd does not seem to be the brightest bulb on the tree.
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Brownell always coaches himself off the hot seat. Must drive the AD crazy.
He's easily safe till 2030 at least now. Just always a step ahead of the axe. Between him and Keatts at NC State, remarkable self preservation out of the ACC coaching ranks.
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He's easily safe till 2030 at least now. Just always a step ahead of the axe. Between him and Keatts at NC State, remarkable self preservation out of the ACC coaching ranks.
Unless IU wants to hire him.
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"ACC is 9-0 in the tournament"
Everyone forget about VA?
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Pretty hard to only score 6 points in 9 minutes against Illinois.
Pretty hard to score less than 6 points against Alabama in a minute
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Is anybody capable of challenging them?
Well, Marquette - without Kolek - challenged them pretty well on March 6.
UConn is great, absolutely the best team. No team is unbeatable, though.
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We can beat them. It would take our best effort, but it can be done!!
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Bacot is such a baby.
Bama hanging around (for now).
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Bacot should have gotten a T after his last foul.
Crazy pace for Alabama.
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Refs fixing to take this game over
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Alabama is banged up. And lots of fouls
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UNC is totally beatable. Their poor shot selection is keeping Bama in this game.
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UNC is totally beatable. Their poor shot selection is keeping Bama in this game.
Alabama isn’t exactly taking a ton of high quality shots either.
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Estrada hits from deep!!!
Let's go Bama.
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Refs giving UNC a lot of help
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Bacot getting schooled by Nelson.
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Nelson really playing well. Maybe MU needs to recruit South Dakota more.
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Nelson hits again. Much better shot selection by Bama down the stretch. Let's go Tide, knock out these pretenders.
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Nelson really playing well. Maybe MU needs to recruit South Dakota more.
Or North Dakota
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Exciiting game. Lots of time left. Let’s roll Tide!
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Or North Dakota
Is there a difference?
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Bacot, how can you miss two dunks in 5 minutes?
Refs bailing out the heels.
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If MU got the calls UNC did, MU would be undefeated.
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Nelson dominating Bacot now. Amazing!!!
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Crowd is with Bama. They smell an upset.
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Wow, Bama comes up big on that defensive set.
Close it out guys!!
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That Nelson guy is pretty good.
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Some really bad basketball from UNC those last couple minutes.
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Hubert Davis…not sure about that guy.
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RJ Davis another chucker when it matters
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Schadenfreude!
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Surprised Carolina fell apart down the stretch
Grant nelson was impressive
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One of Alabama/Clemson will be in the Final Four. Wow.
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Great win for Alabama. Only their second E8 ever.
Is there a more useless stat than the ESPN win probability? With 90 seconds to go, UNC had a 67% chance of winning.
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Illinois-Iowa State is some ugly basketball
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“I’m shocked Carolina was the first #1 seed to lose.” - No one
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“I’m shocked Carolina was the first #1 seed to lose.” - No one
Love it, Dish.
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Looks like 3 out of 4 lower seeds with victories tonight.
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Milan with a night to forget
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Milan with a night to forget
Ouch. That was a big TO.
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Good thing that trial was delayed
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That Nelson guy is pretty good.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/holej0e9EgHgmvEVv4/giphy.gif)
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IL has one guard. That was one ugly game.
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Terrence Shannon Jr's play reminds me of DWade. Smooth and aggressive.
Though he carries some heavy baggage. It would be hard for me to be and Illini fan.
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Those late games were awesome tonight, fun to watch.
Gonna be hard to sleep tonight
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Very surprised with Clemson. Not so much with Bama and Illinois.
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Those late games were awesome tonight, fun to watch.
Gonna be hard to sleep tonight
True dat Dr V. We must drop a gargantuan 🔨 tomorrow.
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UNC continues to be my choice to win The Tournament . Bacot and RJ are talented and experienced and their role players are solid
Condolences on the bracket, Hermie.
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Good thing that trial was delayed
Nothing to see here!
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Condolences on the bracket, Hermie.
As soon as I saw Herm pick them, I eliminated them as a legit threat to win it all
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Great win for Alabama. Only their second E8 ever.
Is there a more useless stat than the ESPN win probability? With 90 seconds to go, UNC had a 67% chance of winning.
What's useless about that? They had a 3-point lead with 90 seconds to play. Honestly, I'd think the percentage would be higher that a team leading by three in that situation would win the game.
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As soon as I saw Herm pick them, I eliminated them as a legit threat to win it all
North Carolina looks like a national title contender.
Oops!!!
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People who think Caleb Love is a All American are legit mental patients
Why do you talk like this?
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Why do you talk like this?
At least he didn't use the R word
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Why do you talk like this?
Uhh because it’s an insane take?
And we got 4 years of data
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UNC was up 1 with about a minute left when Jae’Lyn Withers - for absolutely no good reason - pulled up from 22 for an early-clock 3 attempt. The ball clanged off the iron and was easily corraled by a Bama player (because UNC had nobody within the same zip code to rebound). Bama went down and got the ball to Grant Nelson, who scored as he was being fouled by ... Withers. The 3-point play put Bama ahead to stay.
Not sure if Withers is the goat of the tournament, but he's in the group photo.
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Easter weekend, will Jesus' return to the land of the living help out the remaining Jesuit schools? I'm rooting for Creighton, Marquette, and Gonzaga to make some noise this weekend and make the pope proud.
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Easter weekend, will Jesus' return to the land of the living help out the remaining Jesuit schools? I'm rooting for Creighton, Marquette, and Gonzaga to make some noise this weekend and make the pope proud.
Hah that'd be fantastic if that happened.
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And it looks like Shead from Houston is hurt, now opening door for Duke. Sucks.
Whatever, all I want now is the Edey/Clingan matchup.
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And it looks like Shead from Houston is hurt, now opening door for Duke. Sucks.
Whatever, all I want now is the Edey/Clingan matchup.
Just saw the replay. Not good
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Can’t watch this duke game without thinking how much we blew it. Best chance at a final four.
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Easter weekend, will Jesus' return to the land of the living help out the remaining Jesuit schools? I'm rooting for Creighton, Marquette, and Gonzaga to make some noise this weekend and make the pope proud.
I'm starting to think god isn't real, bros
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I'm starting to think god isn't real, bros
I do not believe the Holy Trinity cares about sports. I will review my Catechism for indications of confirmation.
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Marquette versus Butler was 5/31 from 3 versus NC State Marquette was 4/31 from
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And it looks like Shead from Houston is hurt, now opening door for Duke. Sucks.
Whatever, all I want now is the Edey/Clingan matchup.
23-22 at the half???
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Marquette versus Butler was 5/31 from 3 versus NC State Marquette was 4/31 from
We know. You brought it up in other threads and before that, many others advised over two hours ago.
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23-22 at the half???
Houston guards you, man. That defense is legit. Their offense blows, though
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23-22 at the half???
Yes, Shead in a knee wheelchair glider. Probably done.
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Yes, Shead in a knee wheelchair glider. Probably done.
Ughhhhh.
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Yes, Shead in a knee wheelchair glider. Probably done.
Soft
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Danger zone for Creighton
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Danger zone for Creighton
Game over zone for Creighton
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RIP Big East was great narrative.
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Lots of time left in the Creighton game.
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Lots of time left in the Creighton game.
Tennessee let them right back in the game.
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The Big East is BACK.
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Tennessee let them right back in the game.
Wild game. Been locked on Duke-Houston. Has Tennessee just gone cold?
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Knecht with two huge triples.
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You've gotta really feel for Shead.
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No idea wth Kalky was thinking that possession.
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Is Jon Scheyer still a bad coach?
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You've gotta really feel for Shead.
Gives me consolation… s hi t happens.. now 1 seed out in sweet sixteen..
All American rj Cole craps bed= 1 seed out in sweet 16.
Caleb love craps bed= 2 seed out in s 16
Marquette crazy bad shooting= out
crape happens
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Gives me consolation… s hi t happens.. now 1 seed out in sweet sixteen..
All American rj Cole craps bed= 1 seed out in sweet 16.
Caleb love craps bed= 2 seed out in s 16
Marquette crazy bad shooting= out
crape happens
Not exactly a good night for Trey Alexander.
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Is Jon Scheyer still a bad coach?
Yes.
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Yes.
Completely agree.
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Completely agree.
Completely disagree
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Because we've all been focused on MU there hasn't been much discussion how weird this Shannon situation is. He's probably been the best overall player in the entire tournament and yet he "legally" can't speak to the media. Is it unreasonable to think Illinois may be UCONN's toughest out?
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Because we've all been focused on MU there hasn't been much discussion how weird this Shannon situation is. He's probably been the best overall player in the entire tournament and yet he "legally" can't speak to the media. Is it unreasonable to think Illinois may be UCONN's toughest out?
Them and Purdue. Or if Alabama gets insane from deep.
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UCONN 0-7 from distance.
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Very strange 1st H. I don't think UCONN has made a shot beyond 2 feet.
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Very strange 1st H. I don't think UCONN has made a shot beyond 2 feet.
0-8 from 3, no turnovers, up 2
Tick…tick…tick
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Very strange 1st H. I don't think UCONN has made a shot beyond 2 feet.
This site looked as wonky with the ball/rims as Dallas.
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This site looked as wonky with the ball/rims as Dallas.
Came here to say that I can't get the video from the ball inflation thread out of my head as I watch this game. Even the jump shots that do go down all sort of swirlie around the net - very few of them seem to go through cleanly.
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This site looked as wonky with the ball/rims as Dallas.
Domask doesn't seem to be having any problems.
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Domask doesn't seem to be having any problems.
Idk, Illinois and UConn are a combined 3-18 from deep. At some point, Occam's Razor says its more likely something is rotten here than it is that all these teams' defenses are suddenly causing each other to go ice cold.
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Domask doesn't seem to be having any problems.
Yep, he has a soft touch and is getting great looks around the rim.
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Would’ve much rather had Domask on this years team than Joplin
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It’s a shame cause I think we also likely beat this elite 8 Duke team. Watched every one of their games and they’re good but not by any means unbeatable. Would’ve lost to Houston if not for Shead going down
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Clingan has been a one man wrecking crew. I think UCONN has made two shots beyond 2 feet.
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Very clear at this point that the balls are over inflated.
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Is inflate gate real?
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Clingan has been a one man wrecking crew. I think UCONN has made two shots beyond 2 feet.
UConn has the inside scoring threat MU didn’t. It’s easier to weather 3 pt shooting slumps when your 4 and/or 5 can score inside.
When UConn is rolling, they’re the best team I’ve seen in quite a long time.
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Uhhhh.... I think UCONN will hold on. Wow just wow.
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30-0 run. Yikes.
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I think he might have been talking about UCONN.
(https://i.imgflip.com/480ljq.jpg)
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Spurtability
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30-0. Amazing. Never saw anything like that.
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Is inflate gate real?
I don’t think it’s some conspiracy necessarily but yeah it’s real. The way these balls are bouncing off the rim and the number of guys who are losing their dribble randomly. Something’s up.
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I don’t think it’s some conspiracy necessarily but yeah it’s real. The way these balls are bouncing off the rim and the number of guys who are losing their dribble randomly. Something’s up.
More obvious by the minute. Ball is absolutely flying off the rim and backboard. Shannon shot that ball about 5ft too long. Domask almost broke the backboard on that layup attempt.
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(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o7aCSzjnTrw2VQRck/giphy.gif)
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Inflate gate or not I've never quite seen anything like this at this level. A 30-0 run? Against the 2nd best offensive team?
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Underwood got his team to the elite 8. Props for that.
But this is hands down the worst coached game I have seen all year.
They basically came in with the strategy to drive at the best rim protector in the sport all game and do nothing else.
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I don’t think it’s some conspiracy necessarily but yeah it’s real. The way these balls are bouncing off the rim and the number of guys who are losing their dribble randomly. Something’s up.
Well maybe long-term this is a good thing because something needs to be done.
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I see Scoop has turned into a bunch of Physics experts.
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Inflate gate or not I've never quite seen anything like this at this level. A 30-0 run? Against the 2nd best offensive team?
I just watched the 1st half. They really went on a 30-0 run? That’s insane.
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I see Scoop has turned into a bunch of Physics experts.
I' don't know Fluffy but this is freaking crazy.
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This is 2003 Kansas vs Marquette like
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Underwood got his team to the elite 8. Props for that.
But this is hands down the worst coached game I have seen all year.
They basically came in with the strategy to drive at the best rim protector in the sport all game and do nothing else.
Exactly. You don't see me rolling up on 300 lb lineman. :)
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Illinois has outscored UConn 27-20 over the last 12 minutes. Something to watch in the Final 4
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What is the big deal? MU beat Illinois at their place.
Clingan vs Edey.
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Great replay of UConn in the tournament
https://youtu.be/V18ui3Rtjz4?si=ppJliDFS21VVwrRQ
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NC State is the only team with a chance vs UCONN. :)
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Great replay of UConn in the tournament
https://youtu.be/V18ui3Rtjz4?si=ppJliDFS21VVwrRQ
What a badass 🐎 That's called dominance. And no, UCONN isn't at that level.
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Does SVG have a point? During the UCONN game he stated thar college hoops is MUCH more physical than the NBA, and that they don't call many interior fouls.
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Alabama started 1-13 from 3 and has since gone 13-20 from 3 in this game.
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Does SVG have a point? During the UCONN game he stated thar college hoops is MUCH more physical than the NBA, and that they don't call many interior fouls.
Yes.
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Does SVG have a point? During the UCONN game he stated thar college hoops is MUCH more physical than the NBA, and that they don't call many interior fouls.
Regular season NBA, at least. Playoffs are incredibly physical.
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Alabama started 1-13 from 3 and has since gone 14-21 from 3 in this game.
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Are 4 of Bama's starters portal people?
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Alabama started 1-13 from 3 and has since gone 13-20 from 3 in this game.
People caught on so they took some air out of the ball.
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Regular season NBA, at least. Playoffs are incredibly physical.
NBA regular season has been called much different this year. They’re allowing way more contact. College is still on another level though in terms of what’s allowed.
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People caught on so they took some air out of the ball.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPwrli06xlIz5vy/giphy.gif)
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Alabama started 1-13 from 3 and has since gone 15-23 from 3 in this game.
Wish we could have not got tight and done something similar shucks.
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Boy is this day depressing. We need to get back to work immediately.
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Boy is this day depressing. We need to get back to work immediately.
It’ll get real depressing come tip-off time of the next game.
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It’ll get real depressing come tip-off time of the next game.
I will not be watching that game.
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If I had to watch, do I root for NC State or Duke?
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Developed a distaste for Purdue this March.
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Developed a distaste for Purdue this March.
You're not alone. No idea why Barnes didn't call a time-out when Purdue responded with their run.
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If I had to watch, do I root for NC State or Duke?
I guess NC State but I did hear their fans in. Dallas are a abomination.
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You're not alone. No idea why Barnes didn't call a time-out when Purdue responded with their run.
Take a folding chair to Edey
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Duke
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How the H do you miss that push off from Edey?? Inexcusable.
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Ziegler is just a brutal shooter
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Knecht needs some help. The rest of Tennessee has been atrocious.
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Knecht needs some help. The rest of Tennessee has been atrocious.
Ziegler is pulling a jop and actively playing for the other team
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Ziegler is pulling a jop and actively playing for the other team
Edey is just destroying this team. No answers whatsoever. He also has zero fouls.
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Edey is just destroying this team. No answers whatsoever. He also has zero fouls.
It’s a joke. If they play UConn and he goes 30 minutes without a foul, it’ll be the greatest miracle since the resurrection
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Big contribution from Gainey.
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It’s a joke. If they play UConn and he goes 30 minutes without a foul, it’ll be the greatest miracle since the resurrection
Any 50/50 ball, if Edey loses his balance and/or falls, immediately they call a foul. Dude gets officiated with bubble wrap. It’s horrible viewing
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Reffing against Edey is a joke
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Any 50/50 ball, if Edey loses his balance and/or falls, immediately they call a foul. Dude gets officiated with bubble wrap. It’s horrible viewing
And so against the grain with how games have been officiated the rest of the tournament.
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And so against the grain with how games have been officiated the rest of the tournament.
Right? College basketball media makes all these excuses how he gets reffed. Then I watch the tournament and it’s like 🤔
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Reffing against Edey is a joke
Rick Barnes does not look happy. Why not take a whirl with Hack A Edey to close this game?
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Reffing against Edey is a joke
Bump
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Very disappointing. Knecht couldn't hit during crunch time. Edey has been unguardable.
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Very disappointing. Knecht couldn't hit during crunch time. Edey has been unguardable.
How do you guard someone you’re not allowed to touch that also actively clears out with his elbow and forearm most of the time?
Edey shot 22 FTs, Tennessee as a team shot 11. Tennessee called for 25 fouls, Purdue called for 12. Can’t wait to see CBB media make excuses for that garbage as well.
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Even though Knecht trying to do too much at end of game, not a bad transfer portal guy. First team AA and what a game for him. Lance Jones for Purdue also, who drained the three of his life with two to go. Just like Cam Spencer, pieces that fit and make up the puzzle.
Edey and Clingan, let's do this. The blocks and altering of shots is just game changers.
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I know the rest of the team was basically non exsistent.
But Tennessee killed themselves down the stretch forcing everything through Knect. Purdue knew it and sold out and he was smothered. Never tried a single thing different the final 4 min.
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I know the rest of the team was basically non exsistent.
But Tennessee killed themselves down the stretch forcing everything through Knect. Purdue knew it and sold out and he was smothered. Never tried a single thing different the final 4 min.
Good call.
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I know the rest of the team was basically non exsistent.
But Tennessee killed themselves down the stretch forcing everything through Knect. Purdue knew it and sold out and he was smothered. Never tried a single thing different the final 4 min.
Ziegler’s shooting struggles have really hurt too.
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Meanwhile, women’s tournament has been a train wreck
https://x.com/gmraynor/status/1774531106769187084?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
https://x.com/rodger/status/1774534589186215983?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Meanwhile, women’s tournament has been a train wreck
https://x.com/gmraynor/status/1774531106769187084?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
https://x.com/rodger/status/1774534589186215983?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
There’s a women’s tournament going on? 👀
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Meanwhile, women’s tournament has been a train wreck
https://x.com/gmraynor/status/1774531106769187084?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
https://x.com/rodger/status/1774534589186215983?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Seems worse than overinflate-gate
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Meanwhile, women’s tournament has been a train wreck
https://x.com/gmraynor/status/1774531106769187084?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
https://x.com/rodger/status/1774534589186215983?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
The whole issue in Spokane should never have happened. The Zags should not have been allowed to host the women’s regional.
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The whole issue in Spokane should never have happened. The Zags should not have been allowed to host the women’s regional.
The NCAA, folks.
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Meanwhile, women’s tournament has been a train wreck
https://x.com/gmraynor/status/1774531106769187084?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
https://x.com/rodger/status/1774534589186215983?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Not good.
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Seems worse than overinflate-gate
Both coaches had options to delay the game. They chose to continue.
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Reffing against Edey is a joke
Travels, offensive fouls/clear outs, moving screens....
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Travels, offensive fouls/clear outs, moving screens....
Dude takes more pushes, hacks, and egregious fouls than he gives.
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Travels, offensive fouls/clear outs, moving screens....
I guess it's just not my observations. Ty.
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Dude takes more pushes, hacks, and egregious fouls than he gives.
Foul Ming
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In a weird way want nc state to win. Hate duke and it’s just kinda funny
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Dude takes more pushes, hacks, and egregious fouls than he gives.
I can buy that sure, but to be called for one foul a game while shooting 20+ free throws is way more than that.
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Both coaches had options to delay the game. They chose to continue.
Doesn’t make it any less incompetent. Also, there’s a longer list that just that
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In a weird way want nc state to win. Hate duke and it’s just kinda funny
I'll be even more disappointed (than I already am) if NC State doesn't win!
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I'll be even more disappointed (than I already am) if NC State doesn't win!
This is depressing as fk.
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This is depressing as fk.
I still think they will. MU is WAY better than duke.
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This is depressing as fk.
they easily beat Marquette. Wasn’t even a game
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Duke freshman get it done. Marquette vets cower in fear and miss everything and throw the ball away.. fuc k in losers.
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Go, Duke.
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Go, Duke.
Tower is evil...
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I'm not sure it's healthy to watch this.
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Not good.
Hardly anybody watches chick bb.
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I'm not sure it's healthy to watch this.
it’s not im just drinking champagne at family party and it happens to be on. Torture
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TJ Power at Duke is a guy I hope enters the portal. Freshman who will likely be buried on the depth chart behind Flagg and Others again next year. Absolute 6’9 sniper would love him at MU.
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Hardly anybody watches chick bb.
I do
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it’s not im just drinking champagne at family party and it happens to be on. Torture
I'm watching that video where a rhino flips a car like it's garbage can.
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TJ Power at Duke is a guy I hope enters the portal. Freshman who will likely be buried on the depth chart behind Flagg and Others again next year. Absolute 6’9 sniper would love him at MU.
we don’t believe in transfers. Do you care about the culture of the program?
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Destroy him
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It's a slow process, but we'll get there.
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we don’t believe in transfers. Do you care about the culture of the program?
Shaka brought in Tyler, OMax and Kur Kuath as transfers his first year. Last year, he brought in Wrightsail who got hurt.
This was the only season he didn’t bring someone in, so that isn’t true.
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Hardly anybody watches chick bb.
False.
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Shaka brought in Tyler, OMax and Kur Kuath as transfers his first year. Last year, he brought in Wrightsail who got hurt.
This was the only season he didn’t bring someone in, so that isn’t true.
It was clear sarcasm. Sorry no teal
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It was clear sarcasm. Sorry no teal
Ah, my bad.
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False.
Hardly anybody.
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Hardly anybody.
https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2024/caitlin-clark-iowa-viewership-ratings-1234769420/amp/
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/03/27/ncaa-viewership-iowa-west-virginia-womens-basketball-cbs-mens-tournament-matchups
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Duke not going with our mental strategy of guarding Burns helps a lot more when offense is hard to come by
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Hardly anybody.
Add it to the list of things you’re wrong about. It’s a long one.
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Duke freshman get it done. Marquette vets cower in fear and miss everything and throw the ball away.. fuc k in losers.
Get some help man…
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Duke freshman get it done. Marquette vets cower in fear and miss everything and throw the ball away.. fuc k in losers.
Good lord.
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Sittin here at game in Dallas somehow cheering for NCS only because of hating Duke. Will recover from Friday someday- I sure hope. But still have my priorities and hate Bucky more than Duke. Forever happy Duke beat Bucky in 2015 final.
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https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2024/caitlin-clark-iowa-viewership-ratings-1234769420/amp/
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/03/27/ncaa-viewership-iowa-west-virginia-womens-basketball-cbs-mens-tournament-matchups
We’ll see next year when Clark isn’t around to drive ratings.
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We’ll see next year when Clark isn’t around to drive ratings.
It’s been going up for years.
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TJ Power at Duke is a guy I hope enters the portal. Freshman who will likely be buried on the depth chart behind Flagg and Others again next year. Absolute 6’9 sniper would love him at MU.
Also, just remembered Power and Tre Norman were HS teammates and are still close. Pre existing connection already there!
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I still think they will. MU is WAY better than duke.
Believe now?
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NCAA stepping in.
Must have Duke in the FF
Disgusting
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Too frustrating to watch a single second of this game.
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Too frustrating to watch a single second of this game.
Embarrassed for you. lol
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Embarrassed for you. lol
Goose sure is spot on about you.
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3s legit just dont fall against NC State
Next year, we need to sell our souls for the same devil magic.
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I'm going to sleep at night by telling me we ran into a team of destiny.
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Here’s a question.
Can a team from a Power 6 conference be considered a Cinderella story?
In my book, when a team full of older players ekes into the NCAA tournament and then wins several games, my question for them is “What the heck were you doing all season to have such a crappy record?”
Similar to the UCLA team a couple of years ago that played in Dayton with an 11 seed and ended up almost taking down Gonzaga in a semifinal.
The NC State players should be sending some nice thank you gifts to Virginia for making this all possible by choking away a game they had in the bag.
I’m really hoping for the UConn-Purdue final now to ensure that the title is won by a team that earned it by playing well for 5 months instead of just 3 weeks.
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Duke freshman get it done. Marquette vets cower in fear and miss everything and throw the ball away.. fuc k in losers.
Bump
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Wasn’t ‘83 NC State a Cinderella story? Nova over Georgetown?
And face it these stories are cool. Sucks when it happens to your team, but they’re on a fun journey.
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Uhhhhh......."That fat guy" is pretty damn good. He's a significantly bigger Zack Randolph and he's absolutely abused this Duke team and Fillapowski.
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How could Scheyer not have his team prepared?
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Sure looks like shaka and Co had the correct gameplan for Burns
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Wasn’t ‘83 NC State a Cinderella story? Nova over Georgetown?
And face it these stories are cool. Sucks when it happens to your team, but they’re on a fun journey.
I save the term for teams like Loyola and St. Peter’s and Butler.
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Sure looks like shaka and Co had the correct gameplan for Burns
Not in first half, we doubled way too high.
Even still, We make even a bad % of 3pt shots and we win. And of course dont throw 3 balls into the stands.
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5 three point shots made in the whole game
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This looks like a case of age before beauty.
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Scheyerhowski
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5 three point shots made in the whole game
Before those last few garbage time threes, Marquette and Duke were a combined 7 for 47 from distance vs NC State.
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NC State is on a mission from God.
I'm at peace with losing to them.
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Go, Duke.
Your pick was destroyed.
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Marquette really has a knack for running into mediocre teams on heaters recently. Past 5 appearances include South Carolina ff run, North Carolina finals run, Ja morant murray st, now nc state final 4
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Looks like Scheyer needs more NIL support. Maybe he needs to hit the portal hard.
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Marquette really has a knack for running into mediocre teams on heaters recently. Past 5 appearances include South Carolina ff run, North Carolina finals run, Ja morant murray st, now nc state final 4
Murray St got blown out the next round.
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Looks like Scheyer needs more NIL support. Maybe he needs to hit the portal hard.
The AD needs to hit the portal for a new coach.
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Murray St got blown out the next round.
The point was they ran into a lottery pick who absolutely torched them on a sh***y team
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Not in first half, we doubled way too high.
Even still, We make even a bad % of 3pt shots and we win. And of course dont throw 3 balls into the stands.
Oh.
Did Burns have more of an impact tonight or against mu?
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Wonderful having 4-4 in squares.
☹️
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FWIW…Twice in theee years Marquette was eliminated by a team that went to the Final Four.
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The point was they ran into a lottery pick who absolutely torched them on a sh***y team
Your post only mentioned “teams on heaters” and then named them, but ok.
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FWIW…Twice in theee years Marquette was eliminated by a team that went to the Final Four.
South Carolina made a Cinderella run also.
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The AD needs to hit the portal for a new coach.
Kon to MU. Speak it into existence.
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Your pick was destroyed.
I will get over it.
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Oh.
Did Burns have more of an impact tonight or against mu?
That's a tough call. He looks a little heavier than he did Friday. There is a 0.0 chance he's under 300 lbs.
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Oh.
Did Burns have more of an impact tonight or against mu?
I mean he absolutely destroyed us in the half we lost by 13.
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I mean he absolutely destroyed us in the half we lost by 13.
It took us a half to get it figured out but we did get it figured out. The way Duke played him was downright dumb.
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Man, Marquette really blew a golden chance at the Final Four.
I'm even more disappointed with our loss now than I was on Friday.
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I guess NC State isn’t that bad. They are a different team now. Duke has played them four times this season. Won the first two and has lost to them twice in the last two weeks.
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Man, Marquette really blew a golden chance at the Final Four.
Agreed
I'm even more disappointed with our loss now than I was on Friday.
Disagree. NC State is on a heater. They're forcing teams into their pace, and executing confidently. I'm not certain I'd pick them against Purdue (TBD), but against Duke was an easy call after they beat us.
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Man, Marquette really blew a golden chance at the Final Four.
I'm even more disappointed with our loss now than I was on Friday.
Idk tbh I think im better now.
No telling how Duke plays against us. Just like we cant assume with how bad we played vs Nc State that we magically play well vs Duke.
Now at least we can say we ran into a team on a heater with also a slight horseshoe up their ass. While also playing trash ourselves.
Sucks either way. But Nc State winning again makes playing the what if game a bit tougher.
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It took us a half to get it figured out but we did get it figured out. The way Duke played him was downright dumb.
Apparently that NIL money wasn't enough to get Duke common sense tutors.
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NC State should never be an 11 seed. It means they were placed into the South as a minefield because of how how they were. The same wit NC last year.
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South Carolina made a Cinderella run also.
True about South Carolina also going to the Final Four, but no one had hopes of a deep run with Wojo’s 2017 squad. The 2019 was better until the late season collapse and Ja Morant destroying us.
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NC State should never be an 11 seed. It means they were placed into the South as a minefield because of how how they were. The same wit NC last year.
They were sub .500 in conference...
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3 weeks ago, NCState was not even on the bubble. They got on a heater and voila.
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NC State should never be an 11 seed. It means they were placed into the South as a minefield because of how how they were. The same wit NC last year.
They weren’t going to make the tournament unless winning the ACC tournament. How else should they have been seeded?
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The point was they ran into a lottery pick who absolutely torched them on a sh***y team
The way they finished the season and in light of what we know now about the internal problems, that Marquette team was easy prey for anyone.
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Your post only mentioned “teams on heaters” and then named them, but ok.
I mentioned 3 other far more relevant examples and then one where there was a game where a lotto pick had an incredible performance, to which you chose to nitpick at for some weird reason. But ok I can agree that yes Murray State did not win their next round nor was it that close.
You must be fun at parties weirdo!
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True about South Carolina also going to the Final Four, but no one had hopes of a deep run with Wojo’s 2017 squad. The 2019 was better until the late season collapse and Ja Morant destroying us.
Careful about giving credit to that Murray state team!
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Someone just pointed out that Purdue still has the opportunity to get knocked out of the NCAA tournament by a double digit seed for the 4th year in a row.
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3 weeks ago, NCState was not even on the bubble. They got on a heater and voila.
Boy would I like us to get on a heater.
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Someone just pointed out that Purdue still has the opportunity to get knocked out of the NCAA tournament by a double digit seed for the 4th year in a row.
Gotta keep the Big Ten futility streak going.
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:-[
Man, Marquette really blew a golden chance at the Final Four.
I'm even more disappointed with our loss now than I was on Friday.
I'm extremely disappointed.
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Gotta keep the Big Ten futility streak going.
Could Burns give Edey probs?
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Man, Marquette really blew a golden chance at the Final Four.
I'm even more disappointed with our loss now than I was on Friday.
Any time you earn a high seed, it’s a blown opportunity. I predict that our first final four with Shaka we will have a seed 5 or worse.
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NC State is the worst Final Four team since...?
2011 VCU comes to mind, but it made more sense for teams that had never seen Havoc to succumb to it, and they at least made it as an at-large.
Maybe one of the Boeheim Syracuse teams?
1986 LSU?
Or possibly ever?
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Watched the game with several NC State fans. Didn't care one way or another about the game but it was fun to watch how Burns played that game with a smile on his face the whole game. Having a lot of fun. Filipowski had the exact opposite demeanor. Glad NCSU moved on. Burns is like Davante Gardner 2.0. Edey will get him in foul trouble. Unless NCSU is able to extend its 3 point shooting hex on PU shooters it will be tough for them to move on any further.
Also learned how to do the NCSU hand sign.
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pZn1pBx8wWDpFoP2kSQLjAHaHa&pid=Api&P=0&h=220)
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Unless NCSU is able to extend its 3 point shooting hex on PU shooters it will be tough for them to move on any further.
Purdue only his 3x 3s today! Their worst % of the year.
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NC State is the worst Final Four team since...?
Since last year.
Or possibly since yesterday if you count Alabama.
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NC State is the worst Final Four team since...?
2011 VCU comes to mind, but it made more sense for teams that had never seen Havoc to succumb to it, and they at least made it as an at-large.
Maybe one of the Boeheim Syracuse teams?
1986 LSU?
Or possibly ever?
UCLA 2020/21 also a play in game team to go first four to final four.
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UCLA 2020/21 also a play in game team to go first four to final four.
NC St. wasn't a play in. Much like SDSU and Florida Atlantic last year.
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NC St. wasn't a play in. Much like SDSU and Florida Atlantic last year.
Thanks for the correction. Then UCLA 2020/21 was a worse team, they were a play in team.
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NC State is the worst Final Four team since...?
2011 VCU comes to mind, but it made more sense for teams that had never seen Havoc to succumb to it, and they at least made it as an at-large.
Maybe one of the Boeheim Syracuse teams?
1986 LSU?
Or possibly ever?
I think what makes it even more astounding, which wasn't the case with Shaka at VCU or Cronin at UCLA a few years ago, and definitely Dale Brown in 86...was Keatts was very possibly going to be fired if they didn't make a decent run in the, aka beat Duke. They lose by Duke by double digits, like they did at home less than 2 weeks before, and Keatts is trying to get the CofC or James Madison job.
Its insane
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I think it's a little crazy to rely on season-long analytics to judge this NC State team at this point. They're a different team. MU bombed, but NC State played well on Friday. And obviously again tonight. Their only underwhelming tournament performance was Oakland.
Edey makes it difficult to parse a line, but Purdue should not be more than -5 next Saturday.
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Since last year.
Or possibly since yesterday if you count Alabama.
NC State is not as good as that FAU team, not close to UCLA. Hard to compare them to any play in team ever because they weren't good enough to be in the play in games. Below every play in team in true seed.
Maybe there's a before my time team, but worst ever seems to be by far the most likely correct answer.
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Man, Marquette really blew a golden chance at the Final Four.
I'm even more disappointed with our loss now than I was on Friday.
+1 million
All I could think of watching that game was that we would have beaten Duke. Man, we blew a golden opportunity!
I don't think we would've beaten Purdue, but we would have had a chance, and a Final Four would have been awesome.
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NC State is not as good as that FAU team, not close to UCLA. Hard to compare them to any play in team ever because they weren't good enough to be in the play in games. Below every play in team in true seed.
Maybe there's a before my time team, but worst ever seems to be by far the most likely correct answer.
I mean, if you want to diminish MUs accomplishments. Sure.
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NCST's 14 losses are the most ever by an NCAA team to reach the Final Four.
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NC State is not as good as that FAU team, not close to UCLA. Hard to compare them to any play in team ever because they weren't good enough to be in the play in games. Below every play in team in true seed.
Maybe there's a before my time team, but worst ever seems to be by far the most likely correct answer.
Other thoughts:
1979 Penn
1984 Virginia (beat Indiana in the E8 after IU brilliantly beat UNC in Jordan's final year in the S16)
2006 George Mason
I would not include 1986 LSU on this list despite being an 11-seed. In typical Dale Brown fashion, they underperformed a good part of the season before getting hot at the end.
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2006 George Mason
That was actually a pretty good team despite not being a household name. They were ranked in the top 25 towards the end of the year. Beat Wichita State in the Bracket Buster event. They were an at large out of conference that didn't normally send multiple teams. They could have made a pretty decent argument that they should have been a 8-9 instead of an 11.
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The LSU / Iowa game is 45-45 at half. Better than any of the E8 men’s game so far. Will have a big number for ESPN.
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The LSU / Iowa game is 45-45 at half. Better than any of the E8 men’s game so far. Will have a big number for ESPN.
alabama-clemson & Tennessee-purdue were pretty good all the way thru. so how do you rate this one as BETTER than ANY of the E8 men's games?
oh, just your opinion...unlike so many here, I can respect that
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alabama-clemson & Tennessee-purdue were pretty good all the way thru. so how do you rate this one as BETTER than ANY of the E8 men's games?
oh, just your opinion...unlike so many here, I can respect that
Of course it’s an opinion. Should I issue a trigger warning next time?
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The LSU / Iowa game is 45-45 at half. Better than any of the E8 men’s game so far. Will have a big number for ESPN.
3 watching here. It seemed that Iowa should have had a greater lead with their nice start. May regret that. LSU was hitting a lot of long range 2 point shots but that apparently has come to an end. Fun game.
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Glad this game has lived up to the billing. Stylistically, watching Caitlin Clark it’s impossible not to get Steph vibes.
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Glad this game has lived up to the billing. Stylistically, watching Caitlin Clark it’s impossible not to get Steph vibes.
She's incredible. The rest of that team is mediocre at best.
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Marquette would be in the Final Four if Caitlin Clarke played for them Friday.
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NC State and UCONN are probably going to have both their men’s and women’s teams in their respective final fours.
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She's incredible. The rest of that team is mediocre at best.
Thats silly. They have 2 other All B10 players and Stuelke went for 47 against PSU last month. They aren't a #1 seed National title contender without Clark, of course, but Martin and Stuelke would be the best players on Marquette and many other tourney level teams.
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Incredibly entertaining game. High-level all the way through, including the announcers.
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Incredibly entertaining game. High-level all the way through, including the announcers.
Watching Clark tonight was a lot like watching Edey yesterday. The best players in their game putting on absolute clinics to get to the Final Four.
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Watching Clark tonight was a lot like watching Edey yesterday. The best players in their game putting on absolute clinics to get to the Final Four.
Clark isn't 7'4 310.
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Clark isn't 7'4 310.
Your observational skills are staggering. Not sure your point, but you are correct, she is not 7'4" 310.
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Thats silly. They have 2 other All B10 players and Stuelke went for 47 against PSU last month. They aren't a #1 seed National title contender without Clark, of course, but Martin and Stuelke would be the best players on Marquette and many other tourney level teams.
Kate Martin is far and away my favorite player on that team. Clark is awesome, but when that team is clicking, they are an offensive machine.
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Your observational skills are staggering. Not sure your point, but you are correct, she is not 7'4" 310.
If she ate more Manatee meat, maybe she would be.
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I believe it means that Muggsy has the 'Edey isn't good, he's just tall' mindset.
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I believe it means that Muggsy has the 'Edey isn't good, he's just tall' mindset.
I suspect the same, but was giving him the opportunity to say something so mind-numbingly stupid of his own accord.
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I believe it means that Muggsy has the 'Edey isn't good, he's just tall' mindset.
I don’t think it’s that.
I just think some people are more impressed by basketball skills demonstrated by players who aren’t blessed with such a (literally) huge inherent physical advantage.
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Edey and Clingan are two amazing college big men. Uconn and Purdue have been the best two teams all season. I have been rooting for this match up all season. I was hoping it would be in a semifinal with MU on the other side of the bracket. Alas.
But watching Clingan and Edey rassle will be fun.
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I believe it means that Muggsy has the 'Edey isn't good, he's just tall' mindset.
No, incorrect.
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Then why did you point out Edey's height and weight? Brew never said they had similar games or styles.
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Edey and Clingan are two amazing college big men. Uconn and Purdue have been the best two teams all season. I have been rooting for this match up all season. I was hoping it would be in a semifinal with MU on the other side of the bracket. Alas.
But watching Clingan and Edey rassle will be fun.
Agree with all of that. Edey hasn't run up against anybody like Clingan - a fundamentally sound rim-protector who can look him in the eye. And, of course, vice versa.
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Agree with all of that. Edey hasn't run up against anybody like Clingan - a fundamentally sound rim-protector who can look him in the eye. And, of course, vice versa.
We are talking Edey, not Otule
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5$ still thinks Edey is a trash basketball player.
Because anybody who is 7'4" would win back to back National Players of the year.
Just look at Connor Vanover, who has an extra inch on Edey. Decent for a freshman at Cal, okay as a sophomore at Arkansas, couldn't see the court as a junior at Arkansas, good mid major player as a senior at Oral Roberts, and then can't see the court on a winless SEC team at Mizzou his 5th year.
But all Edey can do is be 7'4".
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Then why did you point out Edey's height and weight? Brew never said they had similar games or styles.
Obsessions about height and weight. It's part of his charm.
Burns is probably up to 325 lbs. by now. He'll be 350 by the Purdue game.
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But watching Clingan and Edey rassle will be fun.
Looking past teams. Now they're probably both doomed.
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5$ still thinks Edey is a trash basketball player.
Because anybody who is 7'4" would win back to back National Players of the year.
Just look at Connor Vanover, who has an extra inch on Edey. Decent for a freshman at Cal, okay as a sophomore at Arkansas, couldn't see the court as a junior at Arkansas, good mid major player as a senior at Oral Roberts, and then can't see the court on a winless SEC team at Mizzou his 5th year.
But all Edey can do is be 7'4".
That's why Neil Fingleton was the GOAT.
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Mbao wass the best big at MU because he was 7'2.
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That's why Neil Fingleton was the GOAT.
He was very good………in Game of Thrones!
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I don’t think it’s that.
I just think some people are more impressed by basketball skills demonstrated by players who aren’t blessed with such a (literally) huge inherent physical advantage.
Apparently some people here have difficulty with nuance and basic common sense .
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Apparently some people here have difficulty with nuance and basic common sense .
Maybe if you were actually clear with your thoughts versus just stating simple facts, people wouldn't wonder WTF you were talking about.
Regardless, Edey isn't just a great player because of his "inherent physical advantage."
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Agree with all of that. Edey hasn't run up against anybody like Clingan - a fundamentally sound rim-protector who can look him in the eye. And, of course, vice versa.
I have been telling Big 10 fans all season that I think UConn would take Purdue because Clingan might not be as good as Edey, but he should be able to contain him better than anyone Edey has faced. Then I think UConn’s supporting cast and coaching are far superior.
Purdue seems totally dependent on Edey whenever things are tight. I didn’t see the game Sunday but, according to a Game Tracker nobody else for a Purdue even took a shot, much less scored a point, for 8 minutes starting with 10:30 left in the game. They did pretty much the same thing at the end of regulation and OT in the loss to the Badgers in the BET. I don’t think they would get away with that against UConn.
Now that it looks like the matchup could happen, I still think UConn would win unless Clingan gets in foul trouble.
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I have been telling Big 10 fans all season that I think UConn would take Purdue because Clingan might not be as good as Edey, but he should be able to contain him better than anyone Edey has faced. Then I think UConn’s supporting cast and coaching are far superior.
Purdue seems totally dependent on Edey whenever things are tight. I didn’t see the game Sunday but, according to a Game Tracker nobody else for a Purdue even took a shot, much less scored a point, for 8 minutes starting with 10:30 left in the game. They did pretty much the same thing at the end of regulation and OT in the loss to the Badgers in the BET. I don’t think they would get away with that against UConn.
Now that it looks like the matchup could happen, I still think UConn would win unless Clingan gets in foul trouble.
That all sounds about right ... although I'd argue that Purdue was very smart to keep going in to Edey. It was their best advantage and they exploited it. If it wasn't their best advantage, maybe they'd have been able to exploit something else - or not.
Clingan getting in foul trouble obviously would hurt UConn - and Edey is great at drawing fouls, so maybe we'll see.
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I have been telling Big 10 fans all season that I think UConn would take Purdue because Clingan might not be as good as Edey, but he should be able to contain him better than anyone Edey has faced. Then I think UConn’s supporting cast and coaching are far superior.
Purdue seems totally dependent on Edey whenever things are tight. I didn’t see the game Sunday but, according to a Game Tracker nobody else for a Purdue even took a shot, much less scored a point, for 8 minutes starting with 10:30 left in the game. They did pretty much the same thing at the end of regulation and OT in the loss to the Badgers in the BET. I don’t think they would get away with that against UConn.
Now that it looks like the matchup could happen, I still think UConn would win unless Clingan gets in foul trouble.
Purdue is the 2nd best 3 point shooting team in the country……….sure they utilize Edey a lot….as they should…but they are far from 1 dimensional.
When other guys shoot……Purdue gets a ton of offensive rebounds…….again Edey a huge part of that.
I do think UConn does matchup better with them than probably anyone else……but it should be a really interesting game…..if it does happen.
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I realize that you can’t lean too heavily on this, but UConn’s handling of some Big 10 teams that Purdue struggled with or lost to might give Purdue fans some cause for concern.
It’s probably a moot point because Purdue will probably be taken out by the unbeatable Wolfpack, even if UConn gets past Alabama.
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I realize that you can’t lean too heavily on this, but UConn’s handling of some Big 10 teams that Purdue struggled with or lost to might give Purdue fans some cause for concern.
It’s probably a moot point because Purdue will probably be taken out by the unbeatable Wolfpack, even if UConn gets past Alabama.
NC State is gonna kick UCONN's ass in the championship game. Probably by 30 points or so.
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TV ratings rocking for a sport doomed because of the transfer portal
TV ratings for the women are rocking despite chauvinists on scoop saying no one watches
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TV ratings rocking for a sport doomed because of the transfer portal
TV ratings for the women are rocking despite chauvinists on scoop saying no one watches
TV Ratings booming because of prop bettors that the NCAA said that states should outlaw (only because they aren't getting a piece of the revenue).
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TV ratings rocking for a sport doomed because of the transfer portal
TV ratings for the women are rocking despite chauvinists on scoop saying no one watches
You spelled dentists wrong
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You spelled dentists wrong
Probably an anti-dentite.
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NC State is gonna kick UCONN's ass in the championship game. Probably by 30 points or so.
Agreed, but only if UCONN refuses to shake their hands. UCONN handshakes = UCONN by 30. NCST will lose their juju. :D
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TV Ratings booming because of prop bettors that the NCAA said that states should outlaw (only because they aren't getting a piece of the revenue).
Bingo.
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Hardly anybody watches chick bb.
https://x.com/theathletic/status/1775281156839416319?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
12.3 million watched Iowa v. LSU last night.
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https://x.com/theathletic/status/1775281156839416319?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
12.3 million watched Iowa v. LSU last night.
Just for gambling purposes unless you believe social media engagement
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Larry Blurred doing work in the NIT semis
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Just for gambling purposes unless you believe social media engagement
Clark moves the needle regardless of the gambling degenerates.
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Just for gambling purposes unless you believe social media engagement
Most bet Women's game of all time
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2024/04/02/iowa-lsu-betting-record-march-madness-elite-eight/73184652007/
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I realize that you can’t lean too heavily on this, but UConn’s handling of some Big 10 teams that Purdue struggled with or lost to might give Purdue fans some cause for concern.
UConn is the defending champion, and they're better this year. They have no weaknesses. That's what should give Purdue fans the most cause for concern.
Doesn't mean UConn is unbeatable. The best team often - maybe even usually - doesn't win it all.
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Most bet Women's game of all time
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2024/04/02/iowa-lsu-betting-record-march-madness-elite-eight/73184652007/
That’s not driving these numbers.
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That’s not driving these numbers.
What is driving those numbers? Media? Easy access to betting?
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What is driving those numbers? Media? Easy access to betting?
Growing interest in women’s basketball and a bunch of interest in Caitlin Clark.
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Growing interest in women’s basketball and a bunch of interest in Caitlin Clark.
Definitely Clark, we agree there. It will be interesting to see how she impacts the WNBA.
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Along with 100+ others, I participate in an investing chat room most days, and we occasionally talk about other topics. Women’s college basketball in general and Clark in particular have been popular non-investing topics.
These folks aren’t gamblers. They’re just into it. And why not? It’s great competition, skill and entertainment.
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https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/did-espn-suddenly-land-the-best-bargain-in-sports.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
"To put the 12.3 million number in perspective, it would be the 8th most-watched non-NFL sporting event in 2023. It would rank ahead of The Masters, four NBA Finals games, every World Series game, and every Stanley Cup Final game. And this is for a property that costs less annually than the ESPN contract for the American Athletic Conference at $83.3 million per year.
Sure, once Caitlin Clark leaves for the WNBA, the ratings may drop. But even non-Iowa games are up huge from last year. And with new stars emerging like USC’s Juju Watkins, the future is still unquestionably bright."
But according to willie "Hardly anybody watches chick bb."
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nm
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Guys, women sports popularity is rising. Includes golf, basketball, volleyball, softball and gymnastics. Soccer has always been popular.
You’ve had multiple generations of women who have had more access and support to play these sports than ever before. It only makes sense the interest is going to increase across the spectrum. Your masculinity isn’t being threatened.
And yes, stars like Caitlin Clark drive the sport. Stars drive sports. News at 10. And yes, gambling is legal just about everywhere. Here’s my shocked face record numbers are being set
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Guys, women sports popularity is rising. Includes golf, basketball, volleyball, softball and gymnastics. Soccer has always been popular.
You’ve had multiple generations of women who have had more access and support to play these sports than ever before. It only makes sense the interest is going to increase across the spectrum. Your masculinity isn’t being threatened.
And yes, stars like Caitlin Clark drive the sport. Stars drive sports. News at 10. And yes, gambling is legal just about everywhere. Here’s my shocked face record numbers are being set
Uhhhhh......tennis?????
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Uh oh. Looks like Dawn Staley may need to be cancelled.
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Uh oh. Looks like Dawn Staley may need to be cancelled.
A new era of roster construction? Can't spell transfer portal without trans.
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Uhhhhh......tennis?????
I maybe wrong, but I feel like tennis is less popular than in the 80's and 90's. Both men's and women's.
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I maybe wrong, but I feel like tennis is less popular than in the 80's and 90's. Both men's and women's.
Tennis has always been.the most lucrative women's sport. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the most popular but I still think it's huge worldwide.
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Tennis has always been.the most lucrative women's sport. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the most popular but I still think it's huge worldwide.
Yes, tennis, too.
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Yes, tennis, too.
It’s massive worldwide. It helps in the US that American men in tennis recently have for the most part kinda stunk and the US has had a run of the most dominant female players of all time.
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It’s massive worldwide. It helps in the US that American men in tennis recently have for the most part kinda stunk and the US has had a run of the most dominant female players of all time.
Women’s tennis has held its own with the men for a long time. Evert-Martina was must-see-TV rivalry.
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I spent the morning after a workout watching the Women's Paris Roubaix. Lotte Kopecky may be one of the most impressive cyclists in the world right now (Current Road and Track champion, 2nd in TdF "avec zwift") and just won one of the monuments.
Peacock...not just for crappy big 10 games!
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Women’s tennis has held its own with the men for a long time. Evert-Martina was must-see-TV rivalry.
Agreed. Moreso just within the last decade I am referring to its consistency in longevity within our borders. Not really cyclical like other sports can be.
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Women’s tennis has held its own with the men for a long time. Evert-Martina was must-see-TV rivalry.
When I used to play and watch tennis, I enjoyed the women slightly more then men. Longer points made it more interesting.
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Yes, tennis, too.
You forgot about swimming and figure skating.
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You forgot about swimming and figure skating.
Not sure figure skating resonates as much anymore but I could be wrong
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Thought this was BB board. Chick tennis?
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Uh oh. Looks like Dawn Staley may need to be cancelled.
What happened?
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When I used to play and watch tennis, I enjoyed the women slightly more than men. Longer points made it more interesting.
I think it's totally dependent an the particular era, match, or rivalries. I don't agree with the longer points narrative. Watching Fed, Nadal, Djoker, and even Murray in their primes was as good as it gets. With very long rallies. On the flipside when Serena dominated, especially after Henin retired, her matches weren't particularly compelling imo.
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Not sure figure skating resonates as much anymore but I could be wrong
Figure skating is a big deal. So is snowboarding/skiing.
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I think it's totally dependent an the particular era, match, or rivalries. I don't agree with the longer points narrative. Watching Fed, Nadal, Djoker, and even Murray in their primes was as good as it gets. With very long rallies. On the flipside when Serena dominated, especially after Henin retired, her matches weren't particularly compelling imo.
Serena’s greatness and watchability was her dominance. Made it compelling when she got challenged
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Figure skating is a big deal. So is snowboarding/skiing.
Doesn’t feel like figure skating is as big as used to be but I admit I could be wrong
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Doesn’t feel like figure skating is as big as used to be but I admit I could be wrong
That's cause Sakamoto is dominant and a lot of Japanese skaters have taken over. It's still a huge women's sport worldwide and the biggest sport in the Winter Olympics .
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I think it's totally dependent an the particular era, match, or rivalries. I don't agree with the longer points narrative. Watching Fed, Nadal, Djoker, and even Murray in their primes was as good as it gets. With very long rallies. On the flipside when Serena dominated, especially after Henin retired, her matches weren't particularly compelling imo.
That's fair. I honestly haven't watched in 15 years. But, I was speaking to my personal experience when I did watch and the women's game was more enjoyable.
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That's fair. I honestly haven't watched in 15 years. But, I was speaking to my personal experience when I did watch and the women's game was more enjoyable.
I think when technology changed the game became more power oriented. I can't speak to the wooden racket era but I have enjoyed watching those old clips of Martina/Chris and Graf/Seles.
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I think when technology changed the game became more power oriented. I can't speak to the wooden racket era but I have enjoyed watching those old clips of Martina/Chris and Graf/Seles.
I don't remember wooden rackets in the pro game when I started watching in the 80s. Aluminum and graphite were the rackets in the 'old' days.
My first racket was wood. My first driver was wood too. Oh, and I had a 1 & 2 iron in my set. :o
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I just listened to an interview with Dwight Burns Sr, DJ's dad. What an impressive and cool guy. That young man was raised right. He said when he and his wife travel to watch DJ, they always stay at a different hotel because they don't want to distract him from the game or team responsibilities. This time they are at the same hotel with the NC State team. Dwight said when he saw DJ coming off the elevator he just "went the other direction". Lol.
I can't see them beating Purdue and it really sucks we're not there. That said, it would be unbelievably Purdue like to lose to NC State.
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Hardly anybody watches chick bb.
https://x.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1776707920006123822?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
Iowa v. South Carolina had 14.2 million viewers.
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https://x.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1776707920006123822?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
Iowa v. South Carolina had 14.2 million viewers.
Well, there are 8 billion people on earth.
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https://x.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1776707920006123822?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
Iowa v. South Carolina had 14.2 million viewers.
I didn't realize that number came out seeing as they haven't played yet.
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What's the attendance of this game? 60K?
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Ugh watching this wishing like hell it was MU.. maybe one day
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Start the bus. This game is over.
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Start the bus. This game is over.
Doesn't look good. Terrible foul by Burns.
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Ugh watching this wishing like hell it was MU.. maybe one day
We missed a tremendous opportunity. Extremely upsetting.
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I didn't realize that number came out seeing as they haven't played yet.
Oops. Obviously UConn.
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Was there a prop bet on number of over and backs ?
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This looks over.
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How TF did we lose to this team?
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How TF did we lose to this team?
4-31
Oso kidnapped and replaced with clone who can’t play basketball
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4-31. All that mattered.
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I know.
Just so painfully brutal to watch
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I know.
Just so painfully brutal to watch
Terrible.
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NCSU playing the “let good shooters take wide-open 3s” defense that somehow got them to the Final Four. Not working too well in the 2H.
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NCSU playing the “let good shooters take wide-open 3s” defense that somehow got them to the Final Four. Not working too well in the 2H.
I think it's actually more about their offense.
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4-31. All that mattered.
Very true. Would have helped to have someone at the 4 or 5 who could score in traffic at the hoop or get to the line, but that shooting from 3 was the story.
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Would have been nice for my male pattern baldness to magically reverse. Life is full of disappointments. MU went 56-17 over the last two seasons doing exactly what frustrates you. MU shoots a typical percentage from 3 and wins. Played good defense. Made lay ups. One factor and one factor only.
Shaka said it is one of the most volatile stats and one of the most important.
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Purdue hitting 3s at a near normal pace. Huh.
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Would have been nice for my male pattern baldness to magically reverse. Life is full of disappointments. MU went 56-17 over the last two seasons doing exactly what frustrates you. MU shoots a typical percentage from 3 and wins. Played good defense. Made lay ups. One factor and one factor only.
Shaka said it is one of the most volatile stats and one of the most important.
We couldn't score inside which led to a lot of threes attempted. It was a very, very, very, frustrating performance.
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Looks like one of the same refs who Reffed Marquette NC State is Reffing NC State Purdue
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Where do these garbage teams find the magic to go on runs like this? I’ve never heard of a power conference team be so awful in the regular season and then flip a switch and dominate to the final four. And that’s including the acc tournament. Party’s over now though
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Not sure why but had a feeling when Diarra got upset with Edey for picking him up it would be bad for NC State and beneficial for Purdue and boom 12-1 Purdue run.
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Marquette shot better from 2 than did NCState. MU shot more free throws and had a higher percentage than NCState. MU won the turnover battle and held their own on the boards.
1 stat, and 1stat only. 9-23 vs 4-31.
MU won or broke even everywhere else.
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The woman interviewing Edey was at about elbow high and probably wearing heels.
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Marquette shot better from 2 than did NCState. MU shot more free throws and had a higher percentage than NCState. MU won the turnover battle and held their own on the boards.
1 stat, and 1stat only. 9-23 vs 4-31.
MU won or broke even everywhere else.
It was a combination of things. We fell way behind and essentially had one guy show up offensively.
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Maybe it's cause I live in Indy, but I'm tired of the Matt Painter ball washing
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It was a combination of things. We fell way behind and essentially had one guy show up offensively.
Disagree. It was the missed 3s
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Marquette shot better from 2 than did NCState. MU shot more free throws and had a higher percentage than NCState. MU won the turnover battle and held their own on the boards.
1 stat, and 1stat only. 9-23 vs 4-31.
MU won or broke even everywhere else.
Bingo. Alas, Purdue hit 3s at a rate MU didn't.
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Disagree. It was the missed 3s
Yes and we took 31.
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NC State 5-19 from three tonite - would’ve been nice to see that last week.
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Yes and we took 31.
And the vast majority were the open looks the offense is designed to get.
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Yes and we took 31.
Most were wide-open attempts by good shooters. The shots we took and made 36% of over the course of 4 1/2 months.
We get it. You think Shaka should have radically changed the offense that got us a #2 seed. That’s your right.
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Most were wide-open attempts by good shooters. The shots we took and made 36% of over the course of 4 1/2 months.
We get it. You think Shaka should have radically changed the offense that got us a #2 seed. That’s your right.
I never said that. We struggled to score inside when it mattered and got zero from our front court.
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I never said that. We struggled to score inside when it mattered and got zero from our front court.
When it mattered, we didn't make 3s
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16-29 shooting 2's. 4-31 shooting 3's. What am I missing?
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I never said that. We struggled to score inside when it mattered and got zero from our front court.
It’s already been covered in numerous threads that Oso wasn’t right. And we couldn’t trade for Eady, dammit.
We had good 3-point shooters wide open. As did Duke vs NCSU. As did Purdue today.
Fortunately for Purdue, they started hitting theirs in the second half … and the game was over.
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16-29 shooting 2's. 4-31 shooting 3's. What am I missing?
You're missing the fact that we weren't in the game essentially until a little bit of a run late. Kam scored most of his points when we were down substantially, including buckets in the paint. We essentially got zilch from 3 starters and 2 bench players. And if we were so effective from 2, why did we take more threes?
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Does Bama have any chance?
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You're missing the fact that we weren't in the game essentially until a little bit of a run late. Kam scored most of his points when we were down substantially, including buckets in the paint. We essentially got zilch from 3 starters and 2 bench players. And if we were so effective from 2, why did we take more threes?
Good shooters were left wide open from 3 and were taking shots the offense was designed to create.
Not sure why you’re having trouble with this.
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Good shooters were left wide open from 3 and were taking shots the offense was designed to create.
Not sure why you’re having trouble with this.
Many were wide open, true. But some weren't and we couldn't score the ball from anywhere when it mattered.
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Many were wide open, true. But some weren't and we couldn't score the ball from anywhere when it mattered.
When it mattered?
Doesn't every minute of the game matter?
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Does Bama have any chance?
No. A cool prop bet would be if/when UConn gets their 30 point lead.
UConn and Purdue have been top teams all season. Their meeting has been inevitable since November.
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When it mattered?
Doesn't every minute of the game matter?
We got down 13 at the half and 16-20 in the 2H which was a big prob. Especially when we had like 8 straight possessions to get the game manageable and we could not fking score. Extremely upsetting.
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Many were wide open, true. But some weren't and we couldn't score the ball from anywhere when it mattered.
Yes. MU went cold at the wrong time.
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Good shooters were left wide open from 3 and were taking shots the offense was designed to create.
Not sure why you’re having trouble with this.
Being too reliant on the 3 is dangerous in a one and done tournament. One bad night and it’s over. It is the most volatile stat. And depending on something that is so volatile is risky. I don’t think it is anti-Marquette or anti-Shaka to question that strategy. Ideally, going forward, it’d be good to have a plan B or different types of personnel that can score in different ways when the 3s aren’t falling. I say this in the spirit of trying to learn form our experience this past season.
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You mean like scoring 60 in the paint against Villanova? MU's offense is lay ups and 3's. Next season will be even more 5 out. Like Bama right now. And if MU would have had a 5-7 start from 3, they might still be playing.
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Bama is lighting it up early.
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I don’t think that Villanova game is a good example. Neptune defended us differently than most and was burned badly by doing so. Clearly, the best way to defend MU was to pack it in and hope the Warriors are cold from 3.
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Being too reliant on the 3 is dangerous in a one and done tournament. One bad night and it’s over. It is the most volatile stat. And depending on something that is so volatile is risky. I don’t think it is anti-Marquette or anti-Shaka to question that strategy. Ideally, going forward, it’d be good to have a plan B or different types of personnel that can score in different ways when the 3s aren’t falling. I say this in the spirit of trying to learn form our experience this past season.
I wouldn’t call you anti-Shaka cuz I don’t know you. But good shooters taking those wise-open 3s IS Shaka’s strategy.
Lots of teams rely on 3s. Even Purdue, with the best big in the land, is VERY beatable when they aren’t hitting from deep.
But yes, I wish we did more vs NCSU.
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Huh. Miss a bunch of 3's in a row and even UConn looks ordinary.
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Huh. Miss a bunch of 3's in a row and even UConn looks ordinary.
No chance, hih?
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Not over.
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I guess the shooting background isn't bothering Bama. 8/11 from distance doesn't suck.
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Sears has a mix of Brunson and Kolek to his game.
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Sears is driving UCONN nuts. But it's probably a bad sign Bama is down 4 going 8-11 from 3.
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8/11 from 3 and still down lol
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Alabama 8/11 on 3s. 24 points on 11 shots.
Over 100 %EFG on 3s correct
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Paul Szelc from Milwaukee reffing this game
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If Marquette makes 8/11 or even 8/31 from 3. Feel Marquette beats NC State
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Meh. When Markus has a half like that he was a ballhog.
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Sears has a mix of Brunson and Kolek to his game.
Was it RAF who said Sears is showing the whole catalogue?! Lol
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Meh. When Markus has a half like that he was a ballhog.
I enjoyed that MU/Buffalo game.
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This is an incredible offensive performance from Bama.
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You can dunk, turn around, flex and yell at an opponent?
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Was it RAF who said Sears is showing the whole catalogue?! Lol
I think it was Eagle. It was punderful.
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This is an incredible offensive performance from Bama.
The only way to hang with UConn. In UConn's last loss, Creighton made 14 3's.
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Does Sears carry the ball every possession?
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This is an incredible offensive performance from Bama.
Insane
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Does Sears carry the ball every possession?
Depends on who you are rooting for.
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Castle finally showing why he moght be a lottery pick
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Impressive counterpunch from UCONN. Who was the best pound for pound boxer? Sugar Ray Robinson? Roberto Duran?
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Castle finally showing why he moght be a lottery pick
Don’t think there’s any might about it
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Castle finally showing why he moght be a lottery pick
True freshman, right?
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Depends on who you are rooting for.
Isn't that an objective call?
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Is it me, or is Samson Johnson a constant moving screen? Also, I dont think Jay Wright goes to Great Clips.
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Many things confusing tonight. What is a foul? What does it take to be called for a travel? Samson moving screen?
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Many things confusing tonight. What is a foul? What does it take to be called for a travel? Samson moving screen?
Refs sure look like they're guessing/anticipating a ton
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Some ghost calls the last couple minutes here.
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And big hits not called.
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UCONN can beat you in so many different ways. The fact that they have 4 turns tonight is amazing.
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UConn v Purdue. Clingan v Edey.
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UConn v Purdue. Clingan v Edey.
Purdue's others (except Jones) will have to play much better than they did today.
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That has been the question and challenge since Purdue lost to FDU.
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Not even sure Purdue keeps it close
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Sears is punk.
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Not even sure Purdue keeps it close
Edey>Clingan.
Otherwise, UConn>Purdue.
We'll see
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Sears is punk.
That was weird
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In the last two seasons, UConn has lost 1 game outside the Big East.
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Not even sure Purdue keeps it close
Edey has to totally dominate. That means getting Clingan off the floor with fouls and Purdue winning big at the FT line.
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In the last two seasons, UConn has lost 1 game outside the Big East.
Kansas wohooohoo yay trivia
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I'm guessing UCONN will be favored by 7.5.
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UConn is going to make Edey’s life hell and they have the size to matchup 1 v 1. Unless UConn has some horrific shooting night they win by 15+
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UConn is going to make Edey’s life hell and they have the size to matchup 1 v 1. Unless UConn has some horrific shooting night they win by 15+
Braden Smith will need to wake up.
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You're missing the fact that we weren't in the game essentially until a little bit of a run late. Kam scored most of his points when we were down substantially, including buckets in the paint. We essentially got zilch from 3 starters and 2 bench players. And if we were so effective from 2, why did we take more threes?
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It seemed that, from very early in this season, Marquette would be destined to have a horrific 3P shooting night in a must win elimination game.
Maybe it was just me, but I brought it up several times leading up to March. I said that there would come a day in an elimination game where Marquette would run into a very cold night from the outside and would need to get creative and find a way to survive and advance.
It did not find that way.
I felt that it would come because we had seen it so many times before, albeit moreso earlier in the season than later.
Credit to NCSt and its coach here- it was almost as if they were daring Marquette to continue to shoot from 3 by playing them in a way that gave MU the outside shot, and Marquette continued to take the dare to no avail. Reminded me of how coach Shaka seemed to successfully game plan against Illinois in Champaign.
I had higher hopes as the season went on that
A) the cold shooting night wouldn’t be AS cold as we had seen on several occasions early in the season and
B) that Marquettes role players were ready to step up in this exact scenario to help the team survive and advance.
I especially felt very confident in this because of the larger roles many guys saw due to injuries in the last month of the season.
Alas, some of them didn’t even get the chance to help, and the ones that did weren’t able to help much.
Instead, clank, x misses yet another open 3.
All you can do it try to become more well rounded as a team for the next time around, in the next elimination game when things aren’t going your way and you have to get creative and use all the, dare I say medieval weapons you’ve got in your arsenal to pull out the dub.
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Edey>Clingan.
Otherwise, UConn>Purdue.
We'll see
Edey is better than Clingan in some respects, but there’s a reason clingan will get drafted before Edey. Clingan is much more mobile.
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The Purdue v. NC State game had interesting statistics.
NC State did what they did all season, dared teams to shoot open 3's. It bit them this time. Purdue hits 40%
Purdue also had Edey, who went 9-14 from 2.
They did stop others from scoring 2's though, Purdue players not name Edey went 3-16 from 2.
NC State had a lucky run, where other teams weren't hitting on 3's they normally do. Luck ran out.
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Muggs-
It seemed that, from very early in this season, Marquette would be destined to have a horrific 3P shooting night in a must win elimination game.
Maybe it was just me, but I brought it up several times leading up to March. I said that there would come a day in an elimination game where Marquette would run into a very cold night from the outside and would need to get creative and find a way to survive and advance.
It did not find that way.
I felt that it would come because we had seen it so many times before, albeit moreso earlier in the season than later.
Credit to NCSt and its coach here- it was almost as if they were daring Marquette to continue to shoot from 3 by playing them in a way that gave MU the outside shot, and Marquette continued to take the dare to no avail. Reminded me of how coach Shaka seemed to successfully game plan against Illinois in Champaign.
I had higher hopes as the season went on that
A) the cold shooting night wouldn’t be AS cold as we had seen on several occasions early in the season and
B) that Marquettes role players were ready to step up in this exact scenario to help the team survive and advance.
I especially felt very confident in this because of the larger roles many guys saw due to injuries in the last month of the season.
Alas, some of them didn’t even get the chance to help, and the ones that did weren’t able to help much.
Instead, clank, x misses yet another open 3.
All you can do it try to become more well rounded as a team for the next time around, in the next elimination game when things aren’t going your way and you have to get creative and use all the, dare I say medieval weapons you’ve got in your arsenal to pull out the dub.
Marquette shot 11 more free throws, despite being down the entire game. This is nonsense.
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Edey>Clingan.
Otherwise, UConn>Purdue.
We'll see
Edey ~ Clingan
UConn guards >>> Purdue guards
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As Al would say, it will be a battle of the aircraft carriers in the final.
The two best teams all season. Should be a great one.
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Edey ~ Clingan
UConn guards >>> Purdue guards
In addition, UConn's offense seems to get what it wants, when it wants it. Their set plays are fun to watch. Sometimes they are quick hitters and other times they run a bunch of action for 20 seconds and you can just sense something is coming and all the sudden there's an alley oop or wide open 3. Hurley has won me over the past couple years. Dude is a helluva coach and has become more likable the more I have seen him in in depth interviews. Go Big East on Monday.
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As Al would say, it will be a battle of the aircraft carriers in the final.
The two best teams all season. Should be a great one.
I think UConn will pound them. Last night will be the only time they’ve been tested in two tournaments. Amazing run.
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In the last two seasons, UConn has lost 1 game outside the Big East.
By 4 points.
If they win tomorrow, they'll be 33-1 over the past two years against non-BE teams, with the sole loss @then no. 5 Kansas.
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In addition, UConn's offense seems to get what it wants, when it wants it. Their set plays are fun to watch. Sometimes they are quick hitters and other times they run a bunch of action for 20 seconds and you can just sense something in coming and all the sudden there's an alley oop or wide open 3. Hurley has won me over the past couple years. Dude is a helluva coach and has become more likable the more I have seen him in in depth interviews. Go Big East on Monday.
I dunno, some scoopers were certain he was a bad coach a few years ago.
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By 4 points.
If they win tomorrow, they'll be 33-1 over the past two years against non-BE teams, with the sole loss @then no. 5 Kansas.
Yep and Kansas was healthy at that time while Clinigan was just coming back from injury and Castle did not play in that game due to injury.
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Women’s ratings continue to set new records
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39889095/iowa-again-draws-record-ratings-final-four-win-uconn
Clay Travis in shambles
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Women’s ratings continue to set new records
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39889095/iowa-again-draws-record-ratings-final-four-win-uconn
Clay Travis in shambles
CC moves the needle. Maybe more than any player since Jordan, and that's not hyperbole. The game today will get an enormous rating. There are people who have never watched basketball before that have tuned in to watch Caitlin Clark. And not just young girls or women.
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CC moves the needle. Maybe more than any player since Jordan, and that's not hyperbole. The game today will get an enormous rating. There are people who have never watched basketball before that have tuned in to watch Caitlin Clark. And not just young girls or women.
A new generation of fans being born before our eyes. Dung in shambles
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I may be wrong, but I think the Women’s final will outdraw the Men’s.
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I may be wrong, but I think the Women’s final will outdraw the Men’s.
8:20 pm tip time doesn’t help for the men.
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I'm kind of amazed at what seems like a near universal "UConn will pound Purdue" narrative out there. The line opened at -6.5, which is more than double the kenpom (-3) and triple the Torvik (-2) projections, and has been bet up to -7.5 some places.
I realize UConn is good, Purdue has also more than covered the kenpom spread in every tourney game so far. They have the most dominant player in the sport in well over a decade, and maybe closer to three. And they don't push the pace, so the transition game that lets UConn post extended monster runs will be harder to come by. Think this will be a lot closer than everyone seems to indicate.
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No one seems to think Iowa has a chance in this one. That 6'7 center for South C is a problem.
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I'm kind of amazed at what seems like a near universal "UConn will pound Purdue" narrative out there. The line opened at -6.5, which is more than double the kenpom (-3) and triple the Torvik (-2) projections, and has been bet up to -7.5 some places.
I realize UConn is good, Purdue has also more than covered the kenpom spread in every tourney game so far. They have the most dominant player in the sport in well over a decade, and maybe closer to three. And they don't push the pace, so the transition game that lets UConn post extended monster runs will be harder to come by. Think this will be a lot closer than everyone seems to indicate.
I think it's mostly the eye test during the course of the tournament, Brew. The spread may also have to do with UCONN annihilating Illinois. If both teans play well I think it will be very competitive but Edey must dominate and Smith has to show up.
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I think it's mostly the eye test during the course of the tournament, Brew. The spread may also have to do with UCONN annihilating Illinois. If both teans play well I think it will be very competitive but Edey must dominate and Smith has to show up.
Purdue by far is the best team they’ve played in the tournament the last two years. That being said, I do think they will win by about 8-10.
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No one seems to think Iowa has a chance in this one. That 6'7 center for South C is a problem.
Iowa players and South Carolina players mot shaking hands. Bad juju.
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Game over. Start the bus.
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Decent start for C-Clark.
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Decent start for C-Clark.
Great second quarter by the others to keep Iowa in the lead so far
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It feels like South Carolina's way of scoring is way more sustainable.
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It feels like South Carolina's way of scoring is way more sustainable.
Yes. They're way, way, bigger.
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Really enjoyable game to watch.
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It feels like South Carolina's way of scoring is way more sustainable.
Agree. That’s a damn good team
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It feels like South Carolina's way of scoring is way more sustainable.
Toss the ball up and let your bigger players go get it? Teams with superior size try it all the time.
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South Carolina undefeated for a reason.
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SC’s bench out scoring Iowa 36-0 is something
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6'7 in the women's game is the eqivalent of Edey or Clingan. Sheer size is a game changer.
Congratulations, SC on a championship and undefeated season.
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Dawn Staley gives zero fxxx’s
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Dawn Staley gives zero fxxx’s
How did your team pull through down the stretch?”
Dawn: God
“What does this win say about your team”
Dawn: God
“Your players hit clutch shots late”
Dawn: God
How did you play great defense”
God
Congrats on the win “
God
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Why all the hate for Caitlin Clark from the pro players?
She's bringing millions of potential fans to the womens pro game. Although they'll probably be Clark fans rather than WNBA fans.
Did the NBA complain when Jordan/LeBron brought in fans? Even with freebies the WNBA averages 6,000 in attendance.
Vegas already moved the site of their Indiana game (Clark) to a 15,000 seat arena. She's most likely going to draw big crowds for at least a couple years. Maybe the players could even fly charter with the extra money coming in.
Is it really petty jealously that she doesn't deserve all the attention the pros have sought for years?
I've read opinions that it's related to skin color and even her sexual preference. I hope neither has anything to do with it.
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How did your team pull through down the stretch?”
Dawn: God
“What does this win say about your team”
Dawn: God
“Your players hit clutch shots late”
Dawn: God
How did you play great defense”
God
Congrats on the win “
God
Outkick in shambles
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Why all the hate for Caitlin Clark from the pro players?
She's bringing millions of potential fans to the womens pro game. Although they'll probably be Clark fans rather than WNBA fans.
Did the NBA complain when Jordan/LeBron brought in fans? Even with freebies the WNBA averages 6,000 in attendance.
Vegas already moved the site of their Indiana game (Clark) to a 15,000 seat arena. She's most likely going to draw big crowds for at least a couple years. Maybe the players could even fly charter with the extra money coming in.
Is it really petty jealously that she doesn't deserve all the attention the pros have sought for years?
I've read opinions that it's related to skin color and even her sexual preference. I hope neither has anything to do with it.
There have been a lot of great players, probably better players that came before her. So, yes, I’d definitely say jealousy comes into play.
They laid the groundwork for a player like her to thrive. A lot of things have come together for her ascendancy (I’d argue almost all on her talent) those players didn’t have.
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Why all the hate for Caitlin Clark from the pro players?
She's bringing millions of potential fans to the womens pro game. Although they'll probably be Clark fans rather than WNBA fans.
Did the NBA complain when Jordan/LeBron brought in fans? Even with freebies the WNBA averages 6,000 in attendance.
Vegas already moved the site of their Indiana game (Clark) to a 15,000 seat arena. She's most likely going to draw big crowds for at least a couple years. Maybe the players could even fly charter with the extra money coming in.
Is it really petty jealously that she doesn't deserve all the attention the pros have sought for years?
I've read opinions that it's related to skin color and even her sexual preference. I hope neither has anything to do with it.
I don’t know about sexual preference but if you don’t think jealousy and race are involved you’re very naive.
On the other side, race is also a factor in her popularity.
So it goes…
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Eh. I think they’re just tired of the hype and ready to see her ball in the pros. Not sure why people think race or sexual preference is much of a factor.
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Eh. I think they’re just tired of the hype and ready to see her ball in the pros. Not sure why people think race or sexual preference is much of a factor.
Yeah, I mean some of the biggest "haters" are Breanna Stewart and Diana Taurasi.
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I don’t know about sexual preference but if you don’t think jealousy and race are involved you’re very naive.
On the other side, race is also a factor in her popularity.
So it goes…
I think her popularity is about her style of play with her zip/pinpoint passing and deep step-back bombs. There may have been better players, I don't know. But there haven't been more exciting players in the women's game. The former players can cry about it if they want, or inject race for zero reason, but the fact is she moves the needle and is a tremendous athlete.
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Meh. You have detractors here still hating on Markus Howard. So, no surprise she has haters. I doubt any of them claim to be Iowa fans who just hate Caitlin Clark.
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Meh. You have detractors here still hating on Markus Howard. So, no surprise she has haters. I doubt any of them claim to be Iowa fans who just hate Caitlin Clark.
If Caitlin Clark played for Marquette women, have to believe those people would hate her, too.
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Fun tournament. The best team (by far) won.
Similar could happen tomorrow.
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Fun tournament. The best team (by far) won.
Similar could happen tomorrow.
Yes. When you have 8 of the top 9 players you should win. Tomorrow I think there is much less of a talent disparity. Although I'd be pleased if UCONN rolls them.
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Yes. When you have 8 of the top 9 players you should win. Tomorrow I think there is much less of a talent disparity. Although I'd be pleased if UCONN rolls them.
All Big Ten teams must lose
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Yes. When you have 8 of the top 9 players you should win. Tomorrow I think there is much less of a talent disparity. Although I'd be pleased if UCONN rolls them.
I don't understand the hate for CC in regards to her not winning a college championship. The Women's game is different, there is usually a team (like SC) that is just dominant in terms of top to bottom talent.
CC needed to score 45+ to win this one, that is too much expectation of a single player, to criticize not winning a championship.
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I don't understand the hate for CC in regards to her not winning a college championship. The Women's game is different, there is usually a team (like SC) that is just dominant in terms of top to bottom talent.
CC needed to score 45+ to win this one, that is too much expectation of a single player, to criticize not winning a championship.
Yes. It's an absurd criticism.
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I may be wrong, but I think the Women’s final will outdraw the Men’s.
Disagreed.
I'm kind of amazed at what seems like a near universal "UConn will pound Purdue" narrative out there. The line opened at -6.5, which is more than double the kenpom (-3) and triple the Torvik (-2) projections, and has been bet up to -7.5 some places.
I realize UConn is good, Purdue has also more than covered the kenpom spread in every tourney game so far. They have the most dominant player in the sport in well over a decade, and maybe closer to three. And they don't push the pace, so the transition game that lets UConn post extended monster runs will be harder to come by. Think this will be a lot closer than everyone seems to indicate.
Agreed. Although, I kind of think UCONN covers with free throws to extend the game down the stretch. But I think it’ll be a ballgame with 2 minutes to play.
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It's been a pretty fun Final 4 weekend, though it certainly would have been better if Marquette was part of it. I found all the games at least somewhat compelling even if they weren't nailbiters.
It's funny, even though in the end UCONN ended up soundly beating Alabama, I was impressed as hell with the job Nate Oates did with that team. They play hard, fast, and put a scare into a more talented team. I won't be shocked at all if Oates ends up winning a Natty at some point in the next 5 years, he is a great coach.
For the most part, I don't watch any women's basketball, but I made an exception for watching Caitlin Clark maybe 5 or 6 times over the past couple seasons. Guys like Magic Johnson, Lebron James, Larry Bird, they always had instincts for the game that made it look like they were playing chess and everyone else was playing checkers. That's what it's like watching Clark. Her instincts for setting up her teammates are amazing to watch in addition to her craftiness in finding different ways to score.
That all said, I found myself rooting for South Carolina a little bit, LOL. I like to think a great TEAM can find a way to beat a team with the best player, and SC did it as a team. Great battle of a superb team vs. a team with arguably the most instinctive female basketball player to ever play college hoops. Hell, Clark's instincts for the game are as good as I've ever seen, including the men. Her court vision and instantaneous reactions to find open players and deliver the ball on time and in perfect position is every bit as good as any male or female I can ever remember. It was a fun game to cap a good weekend of basketball.
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I'm kind of amazed at what seems like a near universal "UConn will pound Purdue" narrative out there. The line opened at -6.5, which is more than double the kenpom (-3) and triple the Torvik (-2) projections, and has been bet up to -7.5 some places.
I realize UConn is good, Purdue has also more than covered the kenpom spread in every tourney game so far. They have the most dominant player in the sport in well over a decade, and maybe closer to three. And they don't push the pace, so the transition game that lets UConn post extended monster runs will be harder to come by. Think this will be a lot closer than everyone seems to indicate.
What I could see happening to give UConn a double-digit win is them turning over Edey and Purdue's guards, leading to easy fastbreak buckets, no matter how Purdue tries to slow the pace. And if Purdue can't make 3s at their season norm or better, they probably are cooked, too.
But I don't discount the possibility that Edey is able to get Clingan in foul trouble, which would be a major event that could turn the tide for Purdue.
I'm totally fascinated by this old-school matchup of great big men - neither has played against a center anywhere near as good as the other.
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It's been a pretty fun Final 4 weekend, though it certainly would have been better if Marquette was part of it. I found all the games at least somewhat compelling even if they weren't nailbiters.
It's funny, even though in the end UCONN ended up soundly beating Alabama, I was impressed as hell with the job Nate Oates did with that team. They play hard, fast, and put a scare into a more talented team. I won't be shocked at all if Oates ends up winning a Natty at some point in the next 5 years, he is a great coach.
For the most part, I don't watch any women's basketball, but I made an exception for watching Caitlin Clark maybe 5 or 6 times over the past couple seasons. Guys like Magic Johnson, Lebron James, Larry Bird, they always had instincts for the game that made it look like they were playing chess and everyone else was playing checkers. That's what it's like watching Clark. Her instincts for setting up her teammates are amazing to watch in addition to her craftiness in finding different ways to score.
That all said, I found myself rooting for South Carolina a little bit, LOL. I like to think a great TEAM can find a way to beat a team with the best player, and SC did it as a team. Great battle of a superb team vs. a team with arguably the most instinctive female basketball player to ever play college hoops. Hell, Clark's instincts for the game are as good as I've ever seen, including the men. Her court vision and instantaneous reactions to find open players and deliver the ball on time and in perfect position is every bit as good as any male or female I can ever remember. It was a fun game to cap a good weekend of basketball.
What impresses me the most about Oates is that he'll give any player a shot, as long as they give Oates the best shot at winning basketball games.
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Dawn Staley: "I want to personally thank Caitlin Clark for lifting up our sport. She carried a heavy load for our sport. You are one of the GOATs of our game and we appreciate you."
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Dawn Staley: "I want to personally thank Caitlin Clark for lifting up our sport. She carried a heavy load for our sport. You are one of the GOATs of our game and we appreciate you."
Yeah, I also think the Turasi comments are very much taken out of context.
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It's impossible to argue with Staley's statement on Clark IMHO.
Given the weight that was on Clark's shoulders - more than the weight on any college basketball player's shoulders in many moons - the quality of her play is almost impossible to quantify.
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Hardly anybody watches chick bb.
Austin Karp
@AustinKarp
The @MarchMadnessWBB final between @GamecockWBB and @IowaWBB drew a women's hoops record 18.5 million viewers on ABC/ESPN (includes Bird/Taurasi alt-cast).
Big-time football type of figure here.
Same number as @CFBPlayoff semifinal between Washington & Texas this past season
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Austin Karp
@AustinKarp
The @MarchMadnessWBB final between @GamecockWBB and @IowaWBB drew a women's hoops record 18.5 million viewers on ABC/ESPN (includes Bird/Taurasi alt-cast).
Big-time football type of figure here.
Same number as @CFBPlayoff semifinal between Washington & Texas this past season
Will be interesting to see what tonight's game pulls. Last year's title game drew a record low 14.7 million viewers. I'm assuming tonight's viewership will jump given the match-up, but it might not beat the women's number from yesterday.
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Will be interesting to see what tonight's game pulls. Last year's title game drew a record low 14.7 million viewers. I'm assuming tonight's viewership will jump given the match-up, but it might not beat the women's number from yesterday.
In 2022, UNC v. Kansas drew 18.1 million and the semifinal between Duke and UNC drew 18.5 million.
I know Purdue is better ratings-wise than SDSU, but I really doubt it will beat those games above. Especially when its on TNT and the tip time isn't until 9:20 Eastern.
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The Women's Championship game drew 18.7 million viewers, according to ESPN.
The broadcast peaked at a whopping 24 million viewers, the network said.
It marks the largest audience for any basketball game (men’s or women’s, college or professional) since 2019.
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That is a lot of gamblers.
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That is a lot of gamblers.
Set a record in Vegas and on-line.
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Set a record in Vegas and on-line.
Blew it away in fact
https://www.espn.com/sports-betting/story/_/id/39901527/south-carolina-iowa-was-most-bet-women-college-basketball-game
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Austin Karp
@AustinKarp
The @MarchMadnessWBB final between @GamecockWBB and @IowaWBB drew a women's hoops record 18.5 million viewers on ABC/ESPN (includes Bird/Taurasi alt-cast).
Big-time football type of figure here.
Same number as @CFBPlayoff semifinal between Washington & Texas this past season
I may be the ‘god of hyperbole’, but Clark has done more for the sport of women’s basketball than any other athlete has done for theirs since Tiger.
And that’s not hyperbole.
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I may be the ‘god of hyperbole’, but Clark has done more for the sport of women’s basketball than any other athlete has done for theirs since Tiger.
And that’s not hyperbole.
No, it’s just the gambling. You can finally gamble on women’s basketball for the first time ever this year.
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In 2022, UNC v. Kansas drew 18.1 million and the semifinal between Duke and UNC drew 18.5 million.
I know Purdue is better ratings-wise than SDSU, but I really doubt it will beat those games above. Especially when its on TNT and the tip time isn't until 9:20 Eastern.
I’d think tonight’s game does much better than last year? Compelling matchup and at this point, Edey is a known quantity to casuals. Not near the level of Caitlin Clark, but probably enough to get some extra eyeballs.
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I’d think tonight’s game does much better than last year? Compelling matchup and at this point, Edey is a known quantity to casuals. Not near the level of Caitlin Clark, but probably enough to get some extra eyeballs.
It will do better than last year. But I doubt it will do better than 2022.
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It will do better than last year. But I doubt it will do better than 2022.
Two blue bloods in ‘22.
UConn is a blue blood in resume, not for TV necessarily
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Late start will hurt the ratings, imo. It is a great matchup and I hope I make it up for the whole game. My son wins a nice sized pool with a UConn win, but he is hedging by taking Purdue money line. Good night for the kid.
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No, it’s just the gambling. You can finally gamble on women’s basketball for the first time ever this year.
Partially, maybe.
But she has permanently changed the women’s game. Steph Currt did the same - we just didn’t know it as it was happening.
This time we see it in real time because we’ve been there before.
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Partially, maybe.
But she has permanently changed the women’s game. Steph Currt did the same - we just didn’t know it as it was happening.
This time we see it in real time because we’ve been there before.
I was joking. For some reason, people can’t handle a woman’s athlete transcending their sport and are looking for some other reason the sport had a great year.
Ratings will drop next year but the sport is in a great place and has a lot of new fans who will stick around.
I think we’re entering a golden age for women’s sports. We’re multiple generations from Title IX now. Access and visibility is larger than ever. Think sponsors aren’t taking notice? The money will only increase.
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Really surprised the spread is -7.5. You would think Smith will play better tonight? Anyway, I hope UCONN finds a way and gets the win.
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Why TF is this game at 920?
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Edey is Purdue, right?
If Purdue doesn't have Edey, no way they're very good.
If uconn is without Clingan (or any other single player), they're still very very good.
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Per Twitter 2:1 Purdue fans in arena
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Why TF is this game at 920?
Isn't it always the same time every year?
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Per Twitter 2:1 Purdue fans in arena
I mean, UConn is playing for their 6th title in 25 years. Must get boring
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Like the eclipse, it is unlikely that we will see a talented 7'4 player and a talented 7'2 player squaring off in a national championship for a long time.
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Really surprised the spread is -7.5. You would think Smith will play better tonight? Anyway, I hope UCONN finds a way and gets the win.
I'm in the camp that thinks 7.5 is about right. Uniquely difficult matchup for Edey means that Purdue's backcourt must at at least hang with UConn's. I just don't think they're capable of that.
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Spencer looks great early and Clingan making impact.
Rest of team looks a little jittery. Big shot from Newton there.
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Incredible start for Edey
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Edey is Purdue, right?
If Purdue doesn't have Edey, no way they're very good.
If uconn is without Clingan (or any other single player), they're still very very good.
Edey = Clark and Purdue = Iowa, UConn = South Carolina. I expect the end result to be the same as well.
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Edey = Clark and Purdue = Iowa, UConn = South Carolina. I expect the end result to be the same as well.
Agreed. Had the same thought earlier
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Incredible start for Edey
NPOY for a reason.
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Incredible start for Edey
Idk if this is a good thing for Purdue though
Eventually they are gonna need other guys to take a make shots. Not just stand and watch Edey try to keep pace with Uconn all game by himself.
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Idk if this is a good thing for Purdue though
Eventually they are gonna need other guys to take a make shots. Not just stand and watch Edey try to keep pace with Uconn all game by himself.
But if he keeps punishing single coverage it will open things up when UConn inevitably starts digging and trapping
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UConn afraid to go to rim
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The Edey factor in their heads a bit.
Uconn has completely botched multiple layups out of fear
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Fouls gonna be a BIG problem for uconn in the 2nd half
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Edey needed that TO badly.
Hes getting gassed
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Edey is going to win this himself.
Total force on both ends.
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Very entertaining game so far. I think Painter made it clear to the team that Edey must get a touch every trip down the court. And Edey making the strategy work.
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Samson Johnson is the same size as Ben Gold. Too small in this game to handle Edey.
Not dull.
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Refs not calling anything on Edey. Sure looked like a foul on the screen on Castle.
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The Edey factor in their heads a bit.
Uconn has completely botched multiple layups out of fear
Edey is dominating early. If he gets some help you would think Purdue has a good chance.
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Very entertaining game so far. I think Painter made it clear to the team that Edey must get a touch every trip down the court. And Edey making the strategy work.
Clingan having big probs. Would you hard double?
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Edey is going to win this himself.
Total force on both ends.
He's going really hard at the moment. How's he going to be in the 2nd half? The pace favors UConn
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I wonder when the last time Clingan was the small one?
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He's going really hard at the moment. How's he going to be in the 2nd half? The pace favors UConn
Yup and Uconn immediately takes advantage of him being out.
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Edey is Purdue, right?
If Purdue doesn't have Edey, no way they're very good.
If uconn is without Clingan (or any other single player), they're still very very good.
Painter clones 7’+ guys. Purdue will be very good as long as Painter is there.
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Edey's getting away with murder on the offensive glass.
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Hurley is such a d bag lol
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Painter clones 7’+ guys. Purdue will be very good as long as Painter is there.
Yea. Similar to ND back in the day - harangody and crew
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Hurley is such a d bag lol
But he's not.
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Yea. Similar to ND back in the day - harangody and crew
Yup. They have a 7’+ guy on the bench who never plays. He’ll be All Big 10 in a year or 2.
Wonder if 5$ still thinks Edey is an absolute trash basketball player.
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Yeah, Purdue is playing right into the Uconn game plan
Let Edey get his if he makes tough hook shots
And make the rest of Purdue prove they belong on the court(currently they dont)
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I honestly cannot remember. Which poster was committed to the bit that that Edey was overrated and Purdue was no good? I remember the discussion, but not who it was with.
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Yeah, Purdue is playing right into the Uconn game plan
Let Edey get his if he makes tough hook shots
And make the rest of Purdue prove they belong on the court(currently they dont)
Yep. And keep the tempo up.
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I honestly cannot remember. Which poster was committed to the bit that that Edey was overrated and Purdue was no good? I remember the discussion, but not who it was with.
Ive said that Purdue without Edey is average
That isnt a bit tho
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I honestly cannot remember. Which poster was committed to the bit that that Edey was overrated and Purdue was no good? I remember the discussion, but not who it was with.
5$ swears Zach Edey is no different than Rob Frozena other than height. Actually, Rob is a way more skilled basketball player.
Think Smith is playing just fine, he’s collapsing the defense on the drive and getting Edey easy looks. And now hitting shots.
Loyer looks scared.
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Were you and I arguing about it back in November?
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Hurley is such a d bag lol
How can you rag on Hurley after what he has said about the Marquette program and Marquette fans?
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Ive said that Purdue without Edey is average
That isnt a bit tho
They aren’t, though. They have a 7’2” redshirt freshman who would be a homeless man’s Edey if Edey wasn’t on Purdue, which is still a good player.
Smith/Loyer/Jones is a great college backcourt. They have some decent depth.
Painter’s teams are never really average. He’s one of the best coaches in the country. They’d just play differently.
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Cam Spencer is a pest
PnR against Edey has been more drop coverage - I think UConn likes that
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Credit where it's due: @r22childress nailed UConn's defensive gameplan with Clingan on the floor. They are staying home on all shooters. 1-on-1 on Edey in the post, 2-on-2 on Edey and Smith in those ball-screens. Purdue is 1-2 from three. Loyer, Gillis and Lance Jones have taken four shots combined.
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Edey with 2 points over the last 12 min.
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Sure feels like Purdue played a great half and are down 6. Were outshooting UConn for most of it, but UConn passed them and UConn is ahead by 1 on the glass.
Incredible start by Edey. Cooled off. No fouls, of course
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How can you rag on Hurley after what he has said about the Marquette program and Marquette fans?
Forgot. Go Hurley
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That is what UConn does. It is how they defended MU, it is how they defend Edey.
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Pretty good half. But Edey can't do it alone. Very few threes btw.
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Pretty good half. But Edey can't do it alone. Very few threes btw.
Uconn shot 9 and Purdue isn’t getting good looks
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Swear to God Edey was created in a lab by Dr Frankenstein. has anyone ever seen him and karloff together in the same placea?
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Edey was looking gassed. They need to get the ball to the 3 point shooters if they want to win this game.
Cam Spencer is annoying. Glad we only had to watch him for 1 yr.
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Edey came back cold after a quick rest. He basically has to beat single coverage over and over or UConn won’t have to adjust by leaving shooters.
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Purdue 1-2 from 3?
They ain't gonna win with that
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But he's not.
My mother who is a big basketball fan thinks he is the poster child for toxic masculinity. I can see it but weird to see from a pretty small guy in stature.
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Is Marquette gonna make one shining moment?
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UConn is staying home on Purdue's shooters at the 3 point line. Not helping on Edey, so they don't have to recover. When a Purdue guard catches the ball in their shooting position, a bigger UConn guard is square and close.
When Samson Johnson was in, UConn doubled Edey and then ran at Purdue shooters with length. They bet on their secondary recovery to throw off open catch and shoot.
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It was a little satisfying to watch UConn be on the receiving end of that sequence of blocks earlier. Because they normally do that to their opponents.
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Hurley is such a d bag lol
No more so than Al McGuire.
He does his thing to keep the pressure off the players.
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Good evaluation, Tower. Let’s go, BE!
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No more so than Al McGuire.
He does his thing to keep the pressure off the players.
I kinda like Hurley...
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https://twitter.com/EvanMiya/status/1769812925747745239?t=U8Z8E88DLji1sUc_ljPYag&s=19
If uconn gets one of these, it's over
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Purdue has Edey
But Uconn has the next 5 best players.
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😳 That tip dunk tho
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What does UConn do on defense now?
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Kinda wild that Painter went to half and said "fu ck it, lets just run it back with the same plan this half"
Just force feeding Edey still and hes not even scoring for nearly 20 min of game time now.
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What does UConn do on defense now?
Clingan and Johnson still have 5 fouls total to give.
Keep making Purdue try to score 2 pts every time with Edey, its not exactly working.
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😳 That tip dunk tho
Heide heide heide hi....
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Clingan and Johnson still have 5 fouls total to give.
Keep making Purdue try to score 2 pts every time with Edey, its not exactly working.
Sure. But without Clingan, UConn is gonna double. That's gonna allow open 3s, which plays to Purdue strengths
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I feel like Purdue runs an offense from 1985.
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Sure. But without Clingan, UConn is gonna double. That's gonna allow open 3s, which plays to Purdue strengths
Except they arent doing it.
Hurley is coaching circles around Painter right now. And they are using Johnson to get Edey and his slow feet moving.
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UConn is going to run at the shooters with length
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UConn down to 3 post fouls to give
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Now 4 on Johnson isnt ideal...
Uconn missing a lot of open shots could be up 20
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Sending double teams now with foul trouble on Clingan and Johnson
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Sending double teams now with foul trouble on Clingan and Johnson
Edey is off. Uconn refusing to concede is paying off
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Purdue is lucky Karaban can’t hit the broadside of a barn or they’d be down 20+
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I did not expect uconn to have a such a rebounding advantage
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Start the bus?
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Purdue has Edey
But Uconn has the next 5 best players.
Yeah, no. I’m absolutely taking Smith over Karaban and Castle. Castle will obviously have the better pro career. But Smith is a great guard. Karaban is nowhere close to as good as Smith, and Castle is a better defender but not close to Smith offensively.
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Purdue cannot compete with UConn outside the center position.
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Purdue is lucky Karaban can’t hit the broadside of a barn or they’d be down 20+
It isn't over. With Uconn doubling now, there are going to be looks from 3. Purdue needs to hit some. If they don't, they will lose by 20.
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Yeah, no. I’m absolutely taking Smith over Karaban and Castle. Castle will obviously have the better pro career. But Smith is a great guard. Karaban is nowhere close to as good as Smith, and Castle is a better defender but not close to Smith offensively.
Castle is a fu cking menace in this game. Hes everywhere.
Loyer looks like he belongs in the MEAC when up against Uconns length.
Yeah, Smith probably over Karaban. But lets see him witouth the mountain next year. Castle has been in his mug all half.
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It isn't over. With Uconn doubling now, there are going to be looks from 3. Purdue needs to hit some. If they don't, they will lose by 20.
Their coverage on the perimeter even when they double has been really good
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Purdue now has 10 in this half
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Purdue is lucky Karaban can’t hit the broadside of a barn or they’d be down 20+
Luck just ran out
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Loyer lol
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Purdue might be in trouble.
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Congrats back to back national fing champs. What an insane 2 year run
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UConn has been the best team all season. I have no problem saying Purdue is second, though it can certainly be debated. The gulf is wide.
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Purdue has one made triple.
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Why didn't Seton Hall make the tournament again?
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UConn has been the best team all season. I have no problem saying Purdue is second, though it can certainly be debated. The gulf is wide.
I'm with this. This UConn team would hold its own in a tournament of tournament champions.
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Purdue is getting Illinois-d right now. UConn is so cliical.
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Purdue has one made triple.
Yes. It is what UConn does. Their guards are longer and quicker and stay home on shooters.
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Purdue has one made triple.
Theyve taken 4
Hurley is making a mockery of Painter
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I'm with this. This UConn team would hold its own in a tournament of tournament champions.
I don’t get how a coach like Hurley can get his players to play so composed game in and game out with him having the opposite personality.
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Terrible call
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4 on Clingan and Johnson. A glimmer of hope for Purdue.
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Terrible call
WTH was that???
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I don’t get how a coach like Hurley can get his players to play so composed game in and game out with him having the opposite personality.
I think his on court stuff is mostly an act. He seems pretty chill otherwise.
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Terrible direction of this broadcast not showing any replays of these key calls. Seems like a common choice in big games like these.
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Edey finally got an easy bucket.
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UConn offense without Clingan is so fluid
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Spencer has a punchable face
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Uconn is absolutely destroying them on the glass. Athletes, grown men.
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This was a very predictable outcome
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This was a very predictable outcome
Basically everyone saw this coming.
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Yes. Edey got his. Shut down everyone else.
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This whole game felt like UConn was a python, slowly squeezing the life our of Purdue and Purdue had no idea it was happening until it was too late.
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Ken Pomeroy is a living legend, but this game is a good reminder that analytical forecasting is far from bulletproof. Purdue was far from a two or three point underdog in this game.
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This team is just so perfectly surgical.
Extremely impressive
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Why didn't Seton Hall make the tournament again?
Because of Virginia. Who could argue Virginia didn't belong? ::)
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Why didn't Seton Hall make the tournament again?
Too many bid stealers.
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Because of Virginia. Who could argue Virginia didn't belong? ::)
LOL don't forget MSU...although I suppose they did win their first round game.
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Haha Hurley
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WTH is Hurley doing?
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It is what it is at this point and it won’t matter, but lol at the fact that Edey has repeatedly just elbowed Karaban in the face multiple times to clear space down low with no calls. I think he’s probably gonna end the year with single digit offensive fouls called against him
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Haha he tried to claim he didnt do anything
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Adding to the legend.
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It is what it is at this point and it won’t matter, but lol at the fact that Edey has repeatedly just elbowed Karaban in the face multiple times to clear space down low with no calls. I think he’s probably gonna end the year with single digit offensive fouls called against him
I truly don't understand how he isn't called on that. Full clear out with his elbow and upper arm.
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UConn lost 3 guys to NBA
UConn starts a east Carolina player and a Loyola Marymount player.
How are they doing this?
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UConn lost 3 guys to NBA
UConn starts a east Carolina player and a Loyola Marymount player.
How are they doing this?
Because Hurley can coach. And, so far, it looks like he doesn't cheat.
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Because Hurley can coach. And, so far, it looks like he doesn't cheat.
What does cheating even mean these days?
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So the Big Ten has now lost eight straight championship games. The most amazing part is that seven different programs have lost those games. Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan State, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan (twice), and now Purdue.
And the thing is, I’m not sure they’ve been favored in ANY of those games. So is that underperformance? Or more just a coincidence?
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Smith over Castle was a wild take
Castle just absolutely erased him from this game all half.
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UConn lost 3 guys to NBA
UConn starts a east Carolina player and a Loyola Marymount player.
How are they doing this?
Because they have 3 more NBA guys?
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So the Big Ten has now lost eight straight championship games. The most amazing part is that seven different programs have lost those games. Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan State, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan (twice), and now Purdue.
And the thing is, I’m not sure they’ve been favored in ANY of those games. So is that underperformance? Or more just a coincidence?
Just enjoy it.
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So the Big Ten has now lost eight straight championship games. The most amazing part is that seven different programs have lost those games. Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan State, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan (twice), and now Purdue.
And the thing is, I’m not sure they’ve been favored in ANY of those games. So is that underperformance? Or more just a coincidence?
I think Illinois were favorites in their game. That team was 37-1 and ranked #1 overall.
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UConn lost 3 guys to NBA
UConn starts a east Carolina player and a Loyola Marymount player.
How are they doing this?
They have more NBA level talent AND they are all bought in and playing together for one common goal. Supreme confidence and great coaching getting all of this to happen.
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UConn lost 3 guys to NBA
UConn starts a east Carolina player and a Loyola Marymount player.
How are they doing this?
This is a bit miss leading.
The ECU player, is in his 2nd year at UCONN averaged close to 10, 5 and 5 for a Championship team last year.
The LMU player, was at Rutgers last year, where he averaged double digits while being one of the best 3-point shooters in the nation.
So bottom line, both those players are studs, and were studs before this year.
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I think Illinois were favorites in their game. That team was 37-1 and ranked #1 overall.
Yeah that was the one I couldn’t remember. That UNC team was really good.
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How many will they lose to the NBA this year?
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This is a bit miss leading.
The ECU player, is in his 2nd year at UCONN averaged close to 10, 5 and 5 for a Championship team last year.
The LMU player, was at Rutgers last year, where he averaged double digits while being one of the best 3-point shooters in the nation.
So bottom line, both those players are studs, and were studs before this year.
Spencer was at Loyola MD, not Marymount.
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Per Twitter, since "Requiem for the Big East" aired, big East has won the most championships of any conference
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Spencer was at Loyola MD, not Marymount.
Thank you for the correction. Sad thing is, I had looked at his stats there earlier, and still messed it up. I guess that explains my nom de plume.
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Purdue, what a bunch of chicken sh!ts, 6 three attempts all night, including being content to just pad Edey’s point total with almost uncontested shots instead of putting up some threes to try and make a game of it the last few minutes.
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Purdue, what a bunch of chicken sh!ts, 6 three attempts all night, including being content to just pad Edey’s point total with almost uncontested shots instead of putting up some threes to try and make a game of it the last few minutes.
Painter game plan was brutal
But also, Uconn guards are just bigger, stronger and better.
Jones finally tried to launch one late and Spencer laughed the ball right back into his face.
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Purdue, what a bunch of chicken sh!ts, 6 three attempts all night, including being content to just pad Edey’s point total with almost uncontested shots instead of putting up some threes to try and make a game of it the last few minutes.
That’s a strange take. UConn pushed out their perimeter defense and had the size to do it. The best way they could make up points was to have Edey go one on one.
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And the LMU player is on his 3rd team in 3 seasons. God bless the portal…
This is a bit miss leading.
The ECU player, is in his 2nd year at UCONN averaged close to 10, 5 and 5 for a Championship team last year.
The LMU player, was at Rutgers last year, where he averaged double digits while being one of the best 3-point shooters in the nation.
So bottom line, both those players are studs, and were studs before this year.
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Painter game plan was brutal
But also, Uconn guards are just bigger, stronger and better.
Jones finally tried to launch one late and Spencer laughed the ball right back into his face.
It looked a lot like last night's game to me where one team had size and bench depth and the other team just couldn't contend.
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I assume UCONN will lose pretty much everyone. Will be interesting to see how they reload.
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That’s a strange take. UConn pushed out their perimeter defense and had the size to do it. The best way they could make up points was to have Edey go one on one.
There was no way they were coming back settling for twos. That’s why UConn was more than happy to give them up.
This was the national championship game and Purdue, a 1 seed, was too afraid to even try any. They chose to just give up. It was pathetic at this level.
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Purdue's guards could not deal with UCONN's quickness.
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There was no way they were coming back settling for twos. That’s why UConn was more than happy to give them up.
This was the national championship game and Purdue, a 1 seed, was too afraid to even try any. They chose to just give up. It was pathetic at this level.
They didn’t “give up.” Good lord.
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Per Twitter, since "Requiem for the Big East" aired, big East has won the most championships of any conference
That's some good $h!t.
Doesn't stop Seth Greenberg and the other ESPN clowns from taking a shot at the viability of the BE.
ESPN is openly upset about the BE. Funny stuff. I guess losing the Big10 to Fox didn't help either.
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Smith over Castle was a wild take
Castle just absolutely erased him from this game all half.
Smith was a much, much better college basketball player this year. Which will be Castle’s only year in college.
Castle’s a good defender, made even better knowing he can stay in his man’s pocket and if he gets beat off the dribble he has one of the best rim protectors in the country behind him.
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If they played a 7-game series, UConn would sweep. They are just much better.
It wouldn't have mattered if John Wooden were coaching Purdue or if Purdue wasn't "chicken sh!t." But sure, if folks need narratives to think otherwise, go for it.
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There was no way they were coming back settling for twos. That’s why UConn was more than happy to give them up.
This was the national championship game and Purdue, a 1 seed, was too afraid to even try any. They chose to just give up. It was pathetic at this level.
Purdue had a great year and just ran into a buzzsaw. UCONN gameplan was extremely effective and was just not their night. Hurley put together a squad of top recruits, portal players that fit right and a nice bench, especially a viable backup center.
At least they made the Final Four and the Title game, maybe one day down the road, MU can make an Elite Eight.
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There was no way they were coming back settling for twos. That’s why UConn was more than happy to give them up.
This was the national championship game and Purdue, a 1 seed, was too afraid to even try any. They chose to just give up. It was pathetic at this level.
Did UCONN destroy their will Hutch? 1-7 an odd stat.
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Smith was a much, much better college basketball player this year. Which will be Castle’s only year in college.
Castle’s a good defender, made even better knowing he can stay in his man’s pocket and if he gets beat off the dribble he has one of the best rim protectors in the country behind him.
Defense is half the game. Hes elite
And Smith also plays with a mountain on offense. Hes small and was completely taken out by Castle. Who is also active as hell in transition and in the paint.
Hes a far more versatile player
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I felt like Loyer was the biggest no-show from Purdue today. Contributed nothing on offense or defense. Purdue did start 3 sophs and has another 7-footer waiting in the wings, so we'll see how they look next year.
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Did UCONN destroy their will Hutch? 1-7 an odd stat.
It’s unheard of in today’s game. UConn was much better without a doubt , but at least go down trying to make an honest attempt to get back in the game and make it interesting. That’s all I’m saying.
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Per Twitter, since "Requiem for the Big East" aired, big East has won the most championships of any conference
That’s classic!
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Is Marquette gonna make one shining moment?
Kam and Oso at the tip.
Joplin screaming.
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Kam and Oso at the tip.
Joplin screaming.
Not much. Thought. But that’s it
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It’s unheard of in today’s game. UConn was much better without a doubt , but at least go down trying to make an honest attempt to get back in the game and make it interesting. That’s all I’m saying.
Fair enough Hutch.
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Defense is half the game. Hes elite
And Smith also plays with a mountain on offense. Hes small and was completely taken out by Castle. Who is also active as hell in transition and in the paint.
Hes a far more versatile player
Which tells you how good Smith is when he goes for 12 points, 8 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and just 1 turnover and he was “completely taken out of the game.” He’s been a borderline All American this year.
Just because Stevie Mitchell made TJ Shannon inefficient for a game doesn’t mean Stevie Mitchell is better than TJ Shannon.
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Which tells you how good Smith is when he goes for 12 points, 8 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and just 1 turnover and he was “completely taken out of the game.” He’s been a borderline All American this year.
Just because Stevie Mitchell made TJ Shannon inefficient for a game doesn’t mean Stevie Mitchell is better than TJ Shannon.
He had half his assists in garbage time and made zero baskets in the second half when Castle was on him almost full time.
Castle also scored more, more efficiently.
You can get plenty of 6 foot point guards. Castles dont grow on trees. He ate Smiths lunch.
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I may be wrong, but I think the Women’s final will outdraw the Men’s.
And it does. The men's game only draws 14.8 million with the women at 18.8 million.
https://x.com/richarddeitsch/status/1777804058088067420
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And it does. The men's game only draws 14.8 million with the women at 18.8 million.
https://x.com/richarddeitsch/status/1777804058088067420
Nobody gambles on the men’s game
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Lulz
https://x.com/claytravis/status/1772770545915793468?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Lulz
https://x.com/claytravis/status/1772770545915793468?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Another clueless cultist who didn't get the memo that "woke" is so 2023.
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Lulz
https://x.com/claytravis/status/1772770545915793468?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Good read. Clay Travis excels at being wrong. Wonder if he's in shambles.
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Good read. Clay Travis excels at being wrong. Wonder if he's in shambles.
For any of the sinners out there, betting against his bets is always a great bet
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For any of the sinners out there, betting against his bets is always a great bet
Wonder who his dentist is
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From The Athletic:
The Indiana Fever — who will presumably draft Caitlin Clark in Monday’s WNBA Draft — will play 36 of their 40 games this season on national TV, which outpaces every other team in the league, including defending champion Las Vegas. It’s a massive bet on Clark and the economy of eyes on her, which boosted women’s college basketball ratings to new heights this season.
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Hardly anybody watches chick bb.
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I cannot wrap my head around these numbers any longer.
2.4 million viewers for the WNBA Draft on Monday on ESPN (first time over 1 million)
NBA Draft did 3.7 million in 2023 on ABC/ESPN
MLB Draft was 744,000 on ESPN/MLB Net in 2023
NHL Draft was 681,000 on ESPN last year
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Austin Karp
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I cannot wrap my head around these numbers any longer.
2.4 million viewers for the WNBA Draft on Monday on ESPN (first time over 1 million)
NBA Draft did 3.7 million in 2023 on ABC/ESPN
MLB Draft was 744,000 on ESPN/MLB Net in 2023
NHL Draft was 681,000 on ESPN last year
Newly signed TV contracts NCAA basketball tournaments:
Women $65 million annually
Men: $1.1 billion annually
All good news for the women, but there is work left to be done.
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Newly signed TV contracts NCAA basketball tournaments:
Women $65 million annually
Men: $1.1 billion annually
All good news for the women, but there is work left to be done.
Not sure what that has to do with willie's point that "hardly anybody watches chick bb."
The fact is the audience has been growing for years. ESPN clearly got a bargain this year.
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Newly signed TV contracts NCAA basketball tournaments:
Women $65 million annually
Men: $1.1 billion annually
All good news for the women, but there is work left to be done.
On the other hand, the women's previous contract was $34 million annually The new contract is a 91% increase in value.
The men's previous contract was about $771 million annually. The new contract is a 42% increase.
Still a massive gap, obviously, but impressive growth for the women's game.
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Newly signed TV contracts NCAA basketball tournaments:
Women $65 million annually
Men: $1.1 billion annually
All good news for the women, but there is work left to be done.
A lot of work.
NBA #1 pick "Wemby". 4 years 55 million or $13,750,000 a year
WNBA #1 pick Clark. 4 years $336,000 or $84K a year.
Clark will make millions with deals, but the other picks below her will not even be close. I didn't realize the salaries were that low in WNBA. Thats why some go to Europe, Russia, China after WNBA season to supplement salary.
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On the other hand, the women's previous contract was $34 million annually The new contract is a 91% increase in value.
The men's previous contract was about $771 million annually. The new contract is a 42% increase.
Still a massive gap, obviously, but impressive growth for the women's game.
Hence "All good news for the women, but there is work left to be done."
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A lot of work.
NBA #1 pick "Wemby". 4 years 55 million or $13,750,000 a year
WNBA #1 pick Clark. 4 years $336,000 or $84K a year.
Clark will make millions with deals, but the other picks below her will not even be close. I didn't realize the salaries were that low in WNBA. Thats why some go to Europe, Russia, China after WNBA season to supplement salary.
The WNBA is still subsidized by the NBA.
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Not sure what that has to do with willie's point that "hardly anybody watches chick bb."
The fact is the audience has been growing for years. ESPN clearly got a bargain this year.
Willie's post was ignorant.
I was pointing out that while the women have made tremendous strides (as you factually illustrated), there is work left to be done.
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Willie's post was ignorant.
I was pointing out that while the women have made tremendous strides (as you factually illustrated), there is work left to be done.
No sh*t. Brilliant observation.
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No sh*t. Brilliant observation.
LOL. Classic. ;D
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LOL. Classic. ;D
He looks for opportunities to be a dick.
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He looks for opportunities to be a dick.
It was an inane and obvious observation.
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It was an inane and obvious observation.
And you just HAD to point it out because?
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It was an inane and obvious observation.
Do you throw your remote at the TV with all the pro-women advocates pointing out, the inane and obvious observation, that the gains are good but they wish for more?
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And you just HAD to point it out because?
Because I wanted to.
Do you throw your remote at the TV with all the pro-women advocates pointing out, the inane and obvious observation, that the gains are good but they wish for more?
No. Why would I do that?
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No. Why would I do that?
Ah ha! You're trying to trick me into stating the inane and obvious.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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Every WNBA player should be profusely thanking Caitlin Clark. She moves the needle, nobody else has in that sport. I hope her presence improves the ratings and revenue generated in the WNBA for years to come.
Instead, we've heard a lot of bcrap from these WNBA players. All of them, no matter how accomplished or good they are, should be kissing her buttocks on a daily basis. Here's the news: No one gives a flying f about Brianna Stewart, Taurasi, and these other current or past players. If Caitlin Clark averages zero points a game, they should still thank her. What would be fair is for Caitlin to sign a contract 50 times more than the highest current contract.
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Every WNBA player should be profusely thanking Caitlin Clark. She moves the needle, nobody else has in that sport. I hope her presence improves the ratings and revenue generated in the WNBA for years to come.
Instead, we've heard a lot of bcrap from these WNBA players. All of them, no matter how accomplished or good they are, should be kissing her buttocks on a daily basis. Here's the news: No one gives a flying f about Brianna Stewart, Taurasi, and these other current or past players. If Caitlin Clark averages zero points a game, they should still thank her. What would be fair is for Caitlin to sign a contract 50 times more than the highest current contract.
She undoubtedly moves the needle. But the popularity of the woman’s game has been growing so it’s not really accurate that no one cared before.
And of course the WNBA vets talk trash about the incoming prospect. The men do the same. It’s just basketball.
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And of course the WNBA vets talk trash about the incoming prospect. The men do the same. It’s just basketball.
Yep.
NBA veterans didn't exactly embrace Michael Jordan when he came into the league, despite all the added attention he brought.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
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Yep.
NBA veterans didn't exactly embrace Michael Jordan when he came into the league, despite all the added attention he brought.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
That's fine and dandy but the fact is people knew who Magic, Bird, and others were before Jordan arrived. He took the NBA to a another level but Clark is immediately the face of her league. 5 times as many people watched the WNBA draft because of her. The vast majority of people could not name 5 WNBA players . They should respect this woman tremendously and understand her impact. At a much smaller level It's comparable to Sheryl Crow being bitter about Taylor Swift.
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That's fine and dandy but the fact is people knew who Magic, Bird, and others were before Jordan arrived. He took the NBA to a another level but Clark is immediately the face of her league. 5 times as many people watched the WNBA draft because of her. The vast majority of people could not name 5 WNBA players . They should respect this woman tremendously and understand her impact. At a much smaller level It's comparable to Sheryl Crow being bitter about Taylor Swift.
Yes. No musicians are bitter about Taylor Swift at all. They all bow to her, like all women athletes should do to Caitlin Clark.
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WNBA players are elite competitors, it's natural they'd contest the idea that a rookie is on another level. That competitive spirit is good for the league. MJ had a host of rivals throughout his career -- I hope Clark has a similar path.
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Yes. No musicians are bitter about Taylor Swift at all. They all bow to her, like all women athletes should do to Caitlin Clark.
That's not what I'm saying. Everyone should understand my crystal clear point.
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That's not what I'm saying. Everyone should understand my crystal clear point.
We need a 5-point plan for getting WNBA veterans to show Caitlin Clark the proper deference.
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We need a 5-point plan for getting WNBA veterans to show Caitlin Clark the proper deference.
Don't knock my 5 pt plan. Notice the s-show we're presently dealing with Pakumi.
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Don't knock my 5 pt plan. Notice the s-show we're presently dealing with Pakumi.
Step 1 ... introduce Breanna Stewart to darkness.
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Step 1 ... introduce Breanna Stewart to darkness.
Your words, not mine.
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Don't knock my 5 pt plan. Notice the s-show we're presently dealing with Pakumi.
Pakumi is Pakuni's evil twin?
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That's fine and dandy but the fact is people knew who Magic, Bird, and others were before Jordan arrived. He took the NBA to a another level but Clark is immediately the face of her league. 5 times as many people watched the WNBA draft because of her. The vast majority of people could not name 5 WNBA players . They should respect this woman tremendously and understand her impact. At a much smaller level It's comparable to Sheryl Crow being bitter about Taylor Swift.
They can both understand her impact and want to crush her on the court.
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Pakumi is Pakuni's evil twin?
Actually, he's my good twin.
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Turasi's comments were taken out of context. Basically she said there will be an adjustment period for her due to the level of competition increasing. That doesn't make for a catchy headline or topics on debate shows though.
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Turasi's comments were taken out of context. Basically she said there will be an adjustment period for her due to the level of competition increasing. That doesn't make for a catchy headline or topics on debate shows though.
She also said Paige Bueckers is a better player. I get being true to your alma mater and all, but it's a really bad take.
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Turasi's comments were taken out of context. Basically she said there will be an adjustment period for her due to the level of competition increasing. That doesn't make for a catchy headline or topics on debate shows though.
I couldn't get though your entire post but it sounds like Turasi is a mean spirited b!tch. ;)
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Here’s something else for her peers to get jealous about:
According to The Athletic, Clark soon will get an 8-figure endorsement contract from Nike, likely to include her own signature shoe.
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Here’s something else for her peers to get jealous about:
According to The Athletic, Clark soon will get an 8-figure endorsement contract from Nike, likely to include her own signature shoe.
over $20 million
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over $20 million
So much for the “she’ll make more money if she stays in college” argument, which was always dopey.
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They can both understand her impact and want to crush her on the court.
if this is true or accurate, these women don't understand they too could flourish with the addition of caitlyn to their league, but chit happens(or doesn't) when ya don't go to class. if they mean competitively...then never mind. hey it works for all star wrestling and the MMA...cool
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if this is true or accurate, these women don't understand they too could flourish with the addition of caitlyn to their league, but chit happens(or doesn't) when ya don't go to class. if they mean competitively...then never mind. hey it works for all star wrestling and the MMA...cool
They completely understand that they can flourish with her on the court. But they still want to beat her.
Just like the men understand what Lebron brings to the NBA - but they of course want to beat him. They're competitors.
Why do we have so much trouble placing attributes on women athletes that we have no problem placing on male athletes?
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Every WNBA player should be profusely thanking Caitlin Clark. She moves the needle, nobody else has in that sport. I hope her presence improves the ratings and revenue generated in the WNBA for years to come.
Instead, we've heard a lot of bcrap from these WNBA players. All of them, no matter how accomplished or good they are, should be kissing her buttocks on a daily basis. Here's the news: No one gives a flying f about Brianna Stewart, Taurasi, and these other current or past players. If Caitlin Clark averages zero points a game, they should still thank her. What would be fair is for Caitlin to sign a contract 50 times more than the highest current contract.
Muggsy:
Caitlin Clark = Modern Day Pistol Pete. Back in the day when Pete came in the league there was a lot of grumbling from NBA Vets. It is all part of the process. It is actually a good thing.
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Muggsy:
Caitlin Clark = Modern Day Pistol Pete. Back in the day when Pete came in the league there was a lot of grumbling from NBA Vets. It is all part of the process. It is actually a good thing.
Yep, people react in unexpected ways when they feel threatened. Caitlin is a threat to the status quo. She's probably dealt with that for years, it's truly lonely at the top (I wouldn't know).
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I am disappointed with all the people who are attributing the lack of financial success for the WNBA and its players to misogyny and/or racism.
At a minimum it is revealing the shocking lack of understanding of basic economics.
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They completely understand that they can flourish with her on the court. But they still want to beat her.
Just like the men understand what Lebron brings to the NBA - but they of course want to beat him. They're competitors.
Why do we have so much trouble placing attributes on women athletes that we have no problem placing on male athletes?
You make valid points, but I think you are diminishing the significance of similar reactions in the men's game. Living through the emergence of Jordan specifically, the media coverage and talk radio chatter about older NBA players dissing MJ and freezing him out of all-star touches was 100x more than this current Clark issue. Fans and media did not hold back on criticizing those men for their words and actions. I'd say it is probably equally proportional between the two based upon the overall interest in each sport.
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I am disappointed with all the people who are attributing the lack of financial success for the WNBA and its players to misogyny and/or racism.
At a minimum it is revealing the shocking lack of understanding of basic economics.
I think they understand the economics just fine. I think they believe that at least part of the reason the econimics are what they are is due to misogyny
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I think they understand the economics just fine. I think they believe that at least part of the reason the econimics are what they are is due to misogyny
It's a different product. Not being a fan of the WNBA does not make one a misogynist.
Women's gymnastics is much more popular than men's gymnastics. Are the people who watch women's gymnastics but not men's misandrists?
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It's a different product. Not being a fan of the WNBA does not make one a misogynist.
Women's gymnastics is much more popular than men's gymnastics. Are the people who watch women's gymnastics but not men's misandrists?
I'm sure someone on the internet has claimed that people who aren't fans of the WNBA are misogynists. I haven't. I said that some people "believe that at least part of the reason the economics are what they are is due to misogyny". That some people believe this is a fact. I also happen to agree with them though I think we would differ on the degree to which misogyny is to blame.
To answer your other question, I do not think people who watch women's but not men's gymnastics are misandrists. I do think misandry and homophobia play a role in why more people watch women's gymnastics than men's gymnaistics.
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I am disappointed with all the people who are attributing the lack of financial success for the WNBA and its players to misogyny and/or racism.
At a minimum it is revealing the shocking lack of understanding of basic economics.
I am as well warriorchick. One league generates 2.6 billion, the other 60 million. You're exactly right, this is economics 101. Yet, we have countless moronic and asinine comments from all sorts of public figures on the subject.
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I'm sure someone on the internet has claimed that people who aren't fans of the WNBA are misogynists. I haven't. I said that some people "believe that at least part of the reason the economics are what they are is due to misogyny". That some people believe this is a fact. I also happen to agree with them though I think we would differ on the degree to which misogyny is to blame.
To answer your other question, I do not think people who watch women's but not men's gymnastics are misandrists. I do think misandry and homophobia play a role in why more people watch women's gymnastics than men's gymnaistics.
Huh? This is absurd.
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Huh? This is absurd.
How so?
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How so?
Don't worry, it's not. It's spot on.
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Huh? This is absurd.
Welcome to the internet.
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I am disappointed with all the people who are attributing the lack of financial success for the WNBA and its players to misogyny and/or racism.
At a minimum it is revealing the shocking lack of understanding of basic economics.
Who are all" the people?
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Who are all" the people?
I guess you don't have access to my feed, but I assure you, there are plenty.
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I guess you don't have access to my feed, but I assure you, there are plenty.
Awesome. Name some.
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Awesome. Name some.
I am not going to do your work for you.
if you follow college basketball at all, it will show up in your own feed.
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I am not going to do your work for you.
if you follow college basketball at all, it will show up in your own feed.
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The NYT's DealBook newsletter this morning led with a piece headlined:
Can the W.N.B.A. make money?
After the Indiana Fever made Caitlin Clark the W.N.B.A.’s No. 1 draft pick this week, the team’s ticket prices soared. The basketball star’s long-distance shots and huge following have landed her on “Saturday Night Live,” attracted interest from sponsors like Nike and sold out jerseys at a rapid pace.
In exchange for Clark’s once-in-a-generation talent, the W.N.B.A. will pay her … $76,535.
News of the paltry first-year salary has ignited a countrywide debate that even President Biden weighed in on, commenting that “even if you’re the best, women are not paid their fair share.”
It also highlighted a hard truth that largely goes unspoken about the W.N.B.A. and many women’s sports leagues: They aren’t profitable.
The simplest reason the W.N.B.A. isn’t paying Clark more is that the league brings in just $200 million annually and relies on the N.B.A. for some of its funding. The N.B.A., by contrast, brings in about $10 billion.
When the N.B.A. and its commissioner at the time, David Stern, founded the W.N.B.A. in 1996, return on their investment wasn’t their immediate focus. As Stern later recounted, he wanted “to develop new fans, more programming, have arena content outside the N.B.A. season, give more girls an incentive to play basketball.”
And, he added, “we knew it was going to be a long haul.”
Indeed, many argue that the W.N.B.A. simply needs more time: The N.B.A. had a 50-year head start, and stars like Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan helped lift it up in the 1980s and ’90s.
People who strongly agree that they get the right amount of recognition are 30% less likely to experience burnout than those who don’t. But what’s the “right amount”? The truth is, it varies. For example, 24% of male employees agree that they receive the right amount of recognition versus 11% of female employees. This points to a crucial difference between equity and equality in the workplace. Learn how social recognition can lead to a more equitable work environment.
The question now is whether Caitlin Clark is the W.N.B.A.’s own Larry Bird or Magic Johnson, a huge star coming at exactly the right time to raise interest across the sport. Or is she more like the league’s Tiger Woods: a talent whose popularity as a prodigy has yet to be replicated?
The W.N.B.A.’s profitability hinges on media rights. The league’s $60 million annual deal is up for renewal in 2025, and several trends are working in its favor, including a race among streamers to collect rights to live sports and a rise in legalized gambling that leaves bettors eager to expand their outlets.
College stars like Clark, Cameron Brink, Angel Reese, Alissa Pili and Aaliyah Edwards, who are joining the W.N.B.A. in fashionable style, bring an additional jolt to the league. Their collective drawing power during the N.C.A.A. tournament helped deliver a television audience for the women’s championship game that topped viewership for the men’s final for the first time.
“We’re way undervalued today,” Cathy Engelbert, the commissioner of the W.N.B.A., told DealBook.
Stars have powered viewership peaks in women’s sports. In a 2018-19 survey by researchers at Ohio State University, only 3 percent of respondents said women’s sports constituted all or almost all of their sports consumption, and 10 percent said half or most of it. But viewers will show up in hordes, particularly when those matches are being played on a big global stage.
Serena Williams’s final match of the 2022 U.S. Open brought in between 4.8 million and 6.9 million views, the most for a tennis match in ESPN’s history
A record 6.43 million viewers tuned in to watch the women’s U.S. soccer team, which included Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe, play in the World Cup last year.
Clark’s final college game, a loss in the N.C.A.A. championship game, drew 18.87 million viewers on ABC and ESPN, about four million more than the men’s championship game.
Alex Michael, a managing director at the investment bank LionTree, said the value of stars might be increasing as media consumption continued to shift away from broadcast television. “It’s not only the live games, but just their lives — whether it’s social media or other facets of storytelling,” he said.
The chicken-or-the-egg problem. While more viewers translate to more money for the league, it takes money to find new viewers. In 2022, the W.N.B.A. raised $75 million from an investor group that includes Nike, Condoleezza Rice, Laurene Powell Jobs and Michael Dell. The league is also planning multiple expansion teams that it hopes will bring in more money.
The 2022 funding has gone into marketing, ad campaigns, influencer marketing and live events, Engelbert said. And some of those efforts may be paying off: This past season, the league averaged 627,000 viewers per game on ABC — still a fraction of the 1.09 million for N.B.A. games, but its most-viewed regular season in more than a decade.
“The seeds were sown over the last five years for this monumental growth,” Chiney Ogwumike, a host for ESPN who was the W.N.B.A.’s first overall draft pick in 2014, told DealBook.
As evidence of ESPN’s role in that progress, she cited pregame shows for the W.N.B.A. and an increasing number of shows about women’s college basketball.
Some industry executives say it’s especially hard to ignore this stat. More than 2.4 million people tuned in to the W.N.B.A. draft, beating the previous record by more than 300 percent.
Bobby Sharma, the founder of Bluestone Equity Partners, who previously worked as a senior legal executive in the N.B.A. office, told DealBook that he was one of the many viewers who had tuned in for the first time.
“There is a real possibility we may be witnessing a transformational moment for the W.N.B.A., for the sport of basketball, and maybe even a cultural and economic shift for women’s sports in America,” he said.