Kolek planning to go pro
Ok, bad comp, lol. There were a lot of concerns about Allen’s completion percentage coming out and Love was really good as a sophomore with a new coach (Gary Andersen) his junior year
What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?
you ain't wrong here hermie, but they need a quarterback to throw to him first, unless you mean from a blocking standpoint the packers always seemed to draft somewhat antithetical to what most thought to be CW. the packers should blow up their little "ownership committee" and form something that can be held a little bit more accountable. murphy and gutekunst need to go. going back to the favre days, we should have won no less than 4 superbowls between the 2 qb's...NO LESS-the town should be running with pitchforks and fire the way they hold this team in importance of their day to day functions
well, here's hoping there are good tight ends and wide receivers available from here on for a couple of rounds unless they have something cooking via trades or free agency
What do you mean by "ownership committee?" Gutekunst has complete control of the draft and Murphy has complete control over the business operation. They have an executive committee that oversees them from a governance point of view, but there are very clear lines of responsibility.
Did you watch the draft? Did you see how Kincaid fell? Do you know who Mayer, Schoonmaker, Musgrave and Washington are?They should run some veer offense, too
Well, since the Packers don't have an owner, and are a not-for-profit corporation, they have to have a Board of Directors. But the Board really doesn't actually do much. They vote on a few things that are required by the by-laws, go to a couple of meetings a year when they see some presentations, and travel on the road a couple games a year.The Executive Committee oversees governance issues and hires and evaluates the President. But Mark Murphy runs the organization. There is no doubt about that. He defers football related decisions to Gutekunst. This is the same way the Packers have been run since Bob Harlan took over as President and hired Ron Wolf as GM. This isn't like the Bart Starr era when the chair of the board was the de facto President and got overly involved in football operations.The Executive Committee or Mark Murphy aren't making football personnel decisions. And if Mark Murphy wants to fire Gutey, he can do it tomorrow. Would he have to clear it with the Executive Committee? Sure. But they would certainly let him.
murphy is the one who needs to go
No idea why you think that. The organization is run extremely well.And you will get your wish because he turns 70 in 2025, which is the Packers mandatory retirement age.
I agree with this analysis
You don’t like the incredible financial growth and development under Murphy? Huh
It does kind of beg the question of how one measures success.For example, many of my friends Bears fans and Packers fans alike have been dragging Rodgers as a failure for only winning one Superbowl, considering him a "failure." On the other hand, I had a lot of fun watching him play while he was in GB, I enjoyed the games more often than I didn't, and while it would have been more fun to win more Superbowls, it's hard for me to consider that a "failure."In this context, my friends measure of success was "championship" while mine was "enjoyed good football and had a lot of fun as a fan."To that end, how do we measure success of Murphy/GBPackers Org? Make lots of money? Build fancy redevelopments in Green Bay? Win football games? Win NFC North? Win playoff games? Win Superbowls? I think how you answer that will define where you fall on the Mark Murphy issue.
I think the criticisms of Murphy and the football operations are fair. They let the QB dictate far too much the last two years to the long term detriment of the team. I’d guess some argue Murphy didn’t do enough to acquiesce the QBs roster desires. There’s an argument for both, which is a symptom of the problems that have plagued them the last few years.As far as Murphy the businessman, he’s done far more good than bad. People are still piling into Lambeau all year long and will for a variety of reasons moving forward.I argue he failed the organization by not letting the front office handle roster and coaching issues by allowing the QB too much power.
I think Mark Murphy made two mistakes with regards to the football operation. First was hanging on to Ted Thompson for too long. Second was, as you mention, letting the quarterback situation get out of hand.But it would be hard to argue that the football product hasn't been been successful during his tenure. They won a Super Bowl. Sure they lost four conference championships since then, but getting that far, and winning eight division titles in the process isn't failrue. Is it as good as it could have been? No, but it would be hard to define Murphy's tenure as unsuccessful on the football field.