Oso planning to go pro
Glad the Saint weighed in on it.
Are people really surprised a subject would get more traction here when it refers to the player for a Milwaukee-based team considering that pretty much everyone here either does or at one point did live in the vicinity of Milwaukee?
Turner's posts were dumb but pretty tame, all things considered. Newcomb called a lot of people f--s on twitter but neither posted anything about white power, the KKK or hating homosexuals. That said, they made stupid comments on social media and MLB should consider sending them to sensitivity training as well. I just hope their teams' fans learned from Milwaukee's mistake and don't give them standing O's next time out.
There are some on here who just like to have something to complain about...and when they can link that complaint to the Cubs and their fans, even better!Turner's posts were dumb but pretty tame, all things considered. Newcomb called a lot of people f--s on twitter but neither posted anything about white power, the KKK or hating homosexuals. That said, they made stupid comments on social media and MLB should consider sending them to sensitivity training as well. I just hope their teams' fans learned from Milwaukee's mistake and don't give them standing O's next time out.
What was that standing O about? I didn’t really follow it because I couldn’t care less about the Brewers (or the National League). But I saw the headline and it seemed weird.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
I'm here for you. Looking forward to more of your stupidity this week!
If you ask Cubs fans it was a bunch of racist white drunks applauding their own racist white drunk.
Where's Tall Titan when you need him?Sad that only when it's a Brewer do we hear about it on MUScoop.
Sorry, I didn't realize we had a huge Braves and Nats following here to make Newcomb and Turner relevant to this forum.
So, at age 17, it's fine for him to post racial slurs online but at age 22, it's not. Going back to my original question, how do we decide when a person reaches the point where the "young and dumb" excuse no longer flies? For you, it's apparently sometime between age 18 and 22. For me, I think that a 17yo should know better than to post wildly offensive comments online. Ah, the old "it could have been worse" defense. So if you had a 17yo, you'd be OK with him/her posting those same things online? After all, it's just "juvenile ramblings." It's not like your kid killed someone, right? Hader's team has absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, this incident is part of a larger issue that's not specific to Hader. Kids do stupid things but simply being a kid doesn't make it acceptable to do those things. The kid in tower's story should absolutely be labeled for the rest of his life because he did something incredibly stupid to warrant that label. That's how it works. One awful mistake, whether you're 16 or 60, can have a hugely negative effect on the rest of your life. People need to recognize that. I just have a hard time getting on-board with "young and dumb" being an out for awful behavior. Now...get off my lawn!EDIT: Just to clarify. I don't think Hader should be punished by MLB or the Brewers. Sending him to Sensitivity Training is the right move and I truly hope he learns from it and that he has already changed and grown as a person. I just have a problem with people shrugging it off as if he did nothing wrong simply because he was 17.
Hader got a standing O from the fans at the beginning of his first appearance at Miller Park after the tweets came to light. Many have rightly pointed out that this sends a poor message. The reality is, no matter what team Hader played for, every fan base would have reacted in the exact same way.
Freddie Freeman vs Chipper Jones after 1,400 plate appearances.
I think Freddie Freeman is suffering from some Mike Trout effect, given how mediocre the Braves have been in his time. Cause he's been fantastic, put up great numbers, as you show has been in lockstep with a Braves legend who came up at about the same age, but casual fans don't know him.
Hmm. So the “it could’ve been worse” defense doesn’t work...unless it does work?Differentiating between which racists Tweets were worse, a couple weeks after claiming that we shouldn’t differentiate between a teen Tweeting stupid stuff 6 years ago and an adult being a participating member of the KKK.“Hader’s team has nothing to do with it.” Well, until it’s a Brave and a National and then we don’t discuss it because nobody cares about those teams, hey?Classic.
Yea, I figured it was a statement of support after owning up and apologizing, and not some white supremacist stuff. However, I don't agree that every fan base would have reacted the same way. A fan base whose demographic trends more toward the object of Hader's vitriol, while not likely to boo him, would also probably not be standing up and cheering the guy.
Unlike many on here regarding Hader, I didn't use the "it could have been worse" defense to excuse Turner and Newcomb for their tweets. As I stated, both guys did something stupid and MLB should probably give them the same "punishment" as Hader. Just because Hader's tweets were more offensive, that doesn't make Turner and Newcomb's tweets acceptable. Let's simplify this for you since you aren't getting it (or maybe since you refuse to acknowledge it). This board is more likely to discuss the Cubs and Brewers because most of us are either Cubs or Brewers fans. If a White Sox player was involved, that'd probably come up on here too. Tower is a Tigers fan (I believe) so I'm sure he'd be open for discussing an issue like this involving a Tigers player. If Hader was on the Orioles or Padres, I bet this topic either wouldn't have come up on here at all or it'd be a blip on the radar. You see how that works? There's also no one immediately coming to the defense of Turner or Newcomb stating that they were just "young and dumb" and prolonging the discussion. Additionally, most of us have already said our piece on the topic. It's not a complex concept for most people. Then again...you're not most people.